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Hi All-
Yes, I have read all the posts and lameness about the MTeoR not supporting GSM 850. Well, lameness unless you are in Europe That being said, there absolutely HAS TO BE a hack that will enable GSM 850 on the phone. At a hardware level, I believe the phone must be capable. It's rather a firmware/software/ROM issue. So, does anybody here have any tips, tricks, hacks, ROM's etc? With all the smart people out there, I believe there must be a solution that the clowns at HTC doesn't even know of.
Separate, but related, has anybody ever found a viable solution to the MTeoR running EDGE in the US? I definitely have Edge coverage here on both band 1900/850. However, the MTeoR won't pick it up. All my WAP settings are right which leads me back to the setup. Any hacks, ideas, thoughts?
Great phone; I am determined to fix some of these U.S. "challenges"
Update to the new ROM. I never had the "E" on all the ROM's until this latest version, 1.34. Now I do which makes me happy. As far as 850 band, the only real way to test (at least for me) is to drive up to Montreal. I know that the majority of coverage is 850 and usually happens right after entering Canada. No plans though to go up in the near future but this will be on my list of things to test when I go.
There's been a new radio released that might be what you're after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299878
Correct me if I am wrong but I think my Diamond (bought from Hong Kong) support USA GSM network. Please see the attached picture, it shows UMTS8500+1900 + GSM850+1900 as an option in the phone setting manual.
I made this post because I saw many people complain that the first batch of Diamond doesn't support USA GSM bands but only the Asia and Euro one.
Can u check al lines, mines is:
UMTS(900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
UMTS(800+2100)
UMTS(850+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(1700)
Mine is working is USA!
It may support those bands but it wont actually get you 3G access in America because the non American Diamonds are missing the 3G attenna. Its not a software problem but a hardware problem.
If you want to use 3G in America then wait till the American version of the Diamond is out.
the bands being able to be selected means that the RIL (radio interface layer) CAN support those bands, that DOES NOT MEAN that your Phone Hardware can support it.
The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?
xwaiz said:
The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?
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Well the HK Diamond Spec is incorrect, it "could" be quoting the US specs but the US version isnt out for another month at least.
xwaiz said:
The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?
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900/1800/1900, thats 3 bands = triband.
This has been discussed so many times now
I have myself written about 3 times why techincally it won't work. Search for my posts, because i really dont have the energy to type it agian!
someone1234 said:
900/1800/1900, thats 3 bands = triband.
This has been discussed so many times now
I have myself written about 3 times why techincally it won't work. Search for my posts, because i really dont have the energy to type it agian!
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hehehe...
I though this would be a good place to post this question.
I have the same bands listed as post # 2. Now my phone came out of the box like it is. No radio or rom upgrades, yet. Does that mean its Quad band unlocked already from the box? Or do I still have to load the latest radio?
Hard to say without knowing wich radio you have.
chribruu said:
Hard to say without knowing which radio you have.
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My radio is 1.00.25.03, so I would assume it's not quad band without putting one of the newer radios?
triband TD
when i got my TD, it was listed a triband. I could still use in the USA because
ATT uses 900 band also. However, their primary band is 850. THe reception with the 900 only band was spotty. I then flashed my ROM (see below) and a new radio.....05 and immediately got 4 bars where i got 1 or none. MUch improvement. However, you will NOT get 3G until you get a USA phone. It uses Edge now, (which for me is fast enough). ITs a hardware think not a ROM or radio upgrade thing to get 3G.
BTW this is my current ROM and i am very happy with my TD now. Best phone ive ever had.
Rom 1.93.456.2 WWE
Rom Date 7-10-08
Radio Version 1.00.25.05
Hard SPL 1.24
Protocol Version 52.29.25.12H
Spawn12 said:
It may support those bands but it wont actually get you 3G access in America because the non American Diamonds are missing the 3G attenna. Its not a software problem but a hardware problem.
If you want to use 3G in America then wait till the American version of the Diamond is out.
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Is there a difference between the european 3g and the american? I haven't tried my diamond in the states but I use 3g/turbo3g here in europe...
bobo_error said:
Is there a difference between the european 3g and the american? I haven't tried my diamond in the states but I use 3g/turbo3g here in europe...
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I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.
mexvato said:
I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.
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I saw your auction. Sorry, but I can't believe you're getting 3G on that phone without at least ONE bar showing in the pic!!
If the european version is missing the antenae then if he was in an area with strong enough signal wouldn't it show the 3G icon and maybe even only one bar, but that is not usable.
stpete111 said:
I saw your auction. Sorry, but I can't believe you're getting 3G on that phone without at least ONE bar showing in the pic!!
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The 3G has nothing to do with the bars.. it says 3g next to the bars if you have it.. (at the same place as the active sync icon is) I haven't seen the picture though so I'm not going to say anything..
mexvato said:
I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.
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So that makes me wonder why you haven't dumped the radio off the phone and let other people test it out. If in fact it is just a DIAM100 model with a modified radio to unlock the 850 gsm band.
bobo_error said:
The 3G has nothing to do with the bars.. it says 3g next to the bars if you have it.. (at the same place as the active sync icon is) I haven't seen the picture though so I'm not going to say anything..
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That's 100% untrue.
RavenGirl said:
So that makes me wonder why you haven't dumped the radio off the phone and let other people test it out. If in fact it is just a DIAM100 model with a modified radio to unlock the 850 gsm band.
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The hardware he has is the DIAM160, not the DIAM100.
HTC DIAMOND (Airtel) UNLOCKED GSM
IS IT 2G or the 3G model without camera.??
Kindly Make it Clear for all the INDIA Users Please.
In a mean time an INDIA diamond is for SALE!!
Installed with latest Firmware and works fastest than ever.
An addtional 2000mah Battery with Back Cover is provided with the Phone.
Phone is in Mint Condition and the scratches visible on screen are on the Screen Guard. Once the screen Guard removed there is no scratch on scteen.
There is no problem at all with the cell.
If and Problem arises its even got warranty. So dont worry.
All Accesories and Box with Bill will be Provided.
If any other querries then just Mail me.
here is the link.
http://cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=250368799084
you can buy it there or msg me on my profile.
This is the 2G Indian Diamond, not the 3G model.
If it is on Airtel, then it HAS to be 2G. Do not misguide people here and on ebay
guys i just wanna confirm 1 thing.i've a Diamond which was locked with Airtel.on the box (also on Device Info) the specs showed that proccy was MSM7206A,but after i unlocked & flashed it with cooked rom now it shows MSM7201A in Device Info.
which 1 is correct?
kdskamal said:
If it is on Airtel, then it HAS to be 2G. Do not misguide people here and on ebay
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Moreover, it does not have the front camera. So it is 2G.
shuvadeep said:
guys i just wanna confirm 1 thing.i've a Diamond which was locked with Airtel.on the box (also on Device Info) the specs showed that proccy was MSM7206A,but after i unlocked & flashed it with cooked rom now it shows MSM7201A in Device Info.
which 1 is correct?
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What does it say for CPU, under Settings>System>Device Information>Hardware?
Techno-Freak said:
This is the 2G Indian Diamond, not the 3G model.
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are you sure. many phone are 3g even though they dont hav front camera.
sunnyin86 said:
are you sure. many phone are 3g even though they dont hav front camera.
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We're talking about HTC Touch Diamond here, and it's 3G models have front camera. All other models are irrelevant here.
What's important is, why don't clarify whether the one you mentioned is 3G or not?
Edit: Oh, so I see you've edited the original post and now say it is a 2G model.
What made you change your mind?
Techno-Freak said:
We're talking about HTC Touch Diamond here, and it's 3G models have front camera. All other models are irrelevant here.
What's important is, why don't clarify whether the one you mentioned is 3G or not?
Edit: Oh, so I see you've edited the original post and now say it is a 2G model.
What made you change your mind?
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well i personally didnt thought that not having a camera means its 2g. i still think it should be 3g but when so many people r saying its 2g den maybe they are right.
Techno-Freak said:
What does it say for CPU, under Settings>System>Device Information>Hardware?
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when the fone was locked with Airtel and running stock firmware CPU was shown as 7206A under Settings>System>Device Information>Hardware.
but after i unlocked the fone & flashed it with cooked rom its now showing 7201A under Settings>System>Device Information>Hardware.
so which 1 is true.
also afaik MSM7206A = MSM7201A - 3G chip.is this true?
shuvadeep said:
when the fone was locked with Airtel and running stock firmware CPU was shown as 7206A under Settings>System>Device Information>Hardware.
but after i unlocked the fone & flashed it with cooked rom its now showing 7201A under Settings>System>Device Information>Hardware.
so which 1 is true.
also afaik MSM7206A = MSM7201A - 3G chip.is this true?
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well i still personally think you are right and its a 3g model. but maybe its a case with roms. maybe we just running 3g roms on 2g models. you guys know better so keep debating till something right comes out.
shuvadeep said:
when the fone was locked with Airtel and running stock firmware CPU was shown as 7206A under Settings>System>Device Information>Hardware.
but after i unlocked the fone & flashed it with cooked rom its now showing 7201A under Settings>System>Device Information>Hardware.
so which 1 is true.
also afaik MSM7206A = MSM7201A - 3G chip.is this true?
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Yes, MSM7206A = MSM7201A - 3G chip.
See the specifications of the Indian Diamond here:
http://www.htc.com/in/product/touchdiamond/specification.html
Enter the bootloader (Hold Volume Down key+Reset). If it says DIAM140 64M there, it is the 2G Indian Diamond.
^^^ in Bootloader mode it shows DIAM140 64M.
that means i'm stuck with a 2G Diamond.
i think the only proper way to confirm this wud be if any1 in Delhi tries a 3G sim in the Indian Diamond.
i too feel it 2.6". why do they write 2.8 then?
Guys,
No need to worry about 7206A or DIAM140 chipset....I got answer from HTC, this is also a 3G model, but it doesn't have capability of video conferencing..I have mail confirmation (below) from HTC.
Dear Sushil Rajput,
Thank you for contacting HTC Email support.
As per our telephonic conversation, we would like to inform you that in HTC Touch 3G device expect video calling you may access all the 3G services which your service provider will provide you.
In case of further queries, please feel free to contact HTC. We will be glad to assist you.
Thank you and have a nice day!
HTC
Hotline: 1800 11 33 77
Service Hours: 9.30 AM To 5.30 PM (Mon - Sat)
Customer Information
Name Sushil Rajput
Telephone 9xxxxxxxxxx
Email Address [email protected]
Country India
Inquiry Information
Inquiry Type Product Info
Inquiry Description I bought a HTC Touch Diamond from Cell Zone, Pune, Maharashtra. I wanted to buy 3G model, but shopkeeper told me same model is a 3G model, now I came to know, this is not a 3G model(7206A chipset), and this chipset is without 3G. I have attached screenshot of my device information. My questions : 1) Why it was not informed to shopkeeper 2) If informed then why they lied to me I want resolution now : 1) I want my money back or 2) HTC Touch diamond Mobile with 3G capability
Issue Date & Time
2009/07/10 20:28
rajputsushil said:
Guys,
No need to worry about 7206A or DIAM140 chipset....I got answer from HTC, this is also a 3G model, but it doesn't have capability of video conferencing..I have mail confirmation (below) from HTC.
Dear Sushil Rajput,
Thank you for contacting HTC Email support.
As per our telephonic conversation, we would like to inform you that in HTC Touch 3G device expect video calling you may access all the 3G services which your service provider will provide you.
In case of further queries, please feel free to contact HTC. We will be glad to assist you.
Thank you and have a nice day!
HTC
Hotline: 1800 11 33 77
Service Hours: 9.30 AM To 5.30 PM (Mon - Sat)
Customer Information
Name Sushil Rajput
Telephone 9xxxxxxxxxx
Email Address [email protected]
Country India
Inquiry Information
Inquiry Type Product Info
Inquiry Description I bought a HTC Touch Diamond from Cell Zone, Pune, Maharashtra. I wanted to buy 3G model, but shopkeeper told me same model is a 3G model, now I came to know, this is not a 3G model(7206A chipset), and this chipset is without 3G. I have attached screenshot of my device information. My questions : 1) Why it was not informed to shopkeeper 2) If informed then why they lied to me I want resolution now : 1) I want my money back or 2) HTC Touch diamond Mobile with 3G capability
Issue Date & Time
2009/07/10 20:28
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now thats strange..
Indian Diamond - confirmed as 2G by HTC support
My Question :
I am from Mumbai, India & intend to buy HTC TOuch Diamond phone (GSM) shortly. However, I am totally lost and confused if it supports 3g or not, please reply poit-wise to my following questions : 1) Does it support 3G ? If yes, then why the phone specification on your website does not explicitly mention it ? 2) Does it have front camera ? Will I be able to use all 3G services when it is launched by service providers in india ? Await your prompt reponse. You may contact me on my no. if required. THank you.
Their reply :
Dear Mr.xxxxxxx ,
Thank you for contacting HTC Email support.
As per your email, we understand that you want to purchase our HTC Touch Diamond device and want to know that it is 3G enable or not.
In this regard, we would like to inform you that HTC Touch Diamond is not a 3G device. If you want to purchase a 3G device you may go for HTC Diamond2.
In case of further queries, please feel free to contact HTC. We will be glad to assist you.
Thank you and have a nice day!
HTC
Hotline: 1800 11 33 77
Service Hours: 9.30 AM To 5.30 PM (Mon - Sat)
@tusharch
"In this regard, we would like to inform you that HTC Touch Diamond is not a 3G device. If you want to purchase a 3G device you may go for HTC Diamond2"
This sounds more like he is trying to push you to buy their Diamond 2
but on a serious note, India Diamond for Airtel is not a 3G, its only a 2G. The main feature of 3G is to have a video call which India Diamond does not have.
but Enjoy Diamond as its an awesome phone!
How to unlock.............
How to unlock this DIAM140 64M...........
When i enter 2nd step for unlocking it hangs up in 95%.
Not able to continue to unlock
I hope with this information, Developers greater than myself (Dutty ...help dude...) can build a Radio ROM that will fix the Touch HD's US 3G issue. The information is all there, Officially From HTC. IT IS NOT A HARDWARE ISSUE - THIS CAN BE FIXED WITH SOFTWARE
HERE IS MY EMAIL THREADS TO AND FROM HTC TECHNICAL SUPPORT - happy reading ----- THE EMAIL THREAD DATES START FROM THE BOTTOM AND WORK UP.
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
I know how frustrating it is when the device does not work with your carrier's network. The radio hardware is in the device but since the device was not made for the North America the software does not open up the frequencies. Any software update would have to come the point of purchase that you purchased the device from and as it was not intended to be used on those frequencies the chances for software updates that would open up those frequencies are not likely. We do apologize for the inconveniences.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/17/09 10:03:59 AM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Touch HD
Hey HTC,
Thank you for responding. From what you are saying though, the Hardware is in the phone? Because of it being a software issue, can this be fixed with a firmware update? Or some application that allows you to tune you Radio? I guess I'm still confused how the phone doesn't work since I'm getting AT&T signal enough to pull in EDGE over:Bands(UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)) with a 3G SIM it should be 3G?
Again thanks for your time, I love this phone I'm just trying to get it to work. I've owned a 8125, Tilt, and now an HTC Touch HD. I'm a developer and wanted something with an Accelerometer but, didn't want the FUZE. I thought the HTC Touch HD was 3G and paid $700.00 for it.
Help me please techy dudes,
Darkrider
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Touch HD <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Touch HD.
I understand the frustration of your device not functioning as expected. While the device may have the same frequencies as AT&T, those frequencies on the device are calibrated for use with European and Asian carriers as a part of the radio hardware. Unfortunately, this means that there is not a way to reconfigure the device. I do apologize for the inconvenience.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 3:30:54 PM EDT
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Hey HTC,
Ok so one more set of questions. So now that we have ruled out Hardware, and we know it is AT&T Software. Is it possible to know what region of the Software could be causing the issue? Meaning is all of this just setting on the phone not configured correctly? If so would you know what settings should be configured? Is this a Program that is not reading the Radio correctly? If so is this something you would have for another HTC model that is using the same Radio Hardware? or is this all Some mysterious Hand Shake Program that is unknown to anyone but AT&T?
Thanks again,
Darkrider
From:<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
We are happy to assist our customers. You are welcome, I hope that the information is help to you.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 12:17:12 PM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Thanks HTC,
This is all I needed to know, thank you. I've been digging in the craziest places on the web looking for that answer and it seemed no one knew the answer.
Thanks Again,
Darkrider
P.S.
I still love the damn phone.... you guy's make great stuff.
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
I know it is important to be able to your device with your carrier. However, the device's hardware is capable of 3G network and the bands used by AT&T. But due to differences in the software there limitations in frequencies and bands. As I explained before, the device was not originally designed for use in the States. The does not have AT&T software on it and there is not a way to put that software on the device. I do apologize for the inconveniences.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 10:59:00 AM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Hey Cheryl,
Thank you for responding, what I find confusing to me is the phone has the 3G AT&T Bands(UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)) in a drop down that I can select under "BAND" settings?
So My question is: Is Hardware on the HTC Touch HD to support US 3G?
Thank you for you time,
Darkrider
From:<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:49 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
We know how important it is to use the device to its full potential. However, the Touch HD was not originally created with the American networks in mind. It was originally made for the European and Asian markets and the networks in those areas are different from the networks here. AT&T uses the 850 and 1900 bands in North America. The Touch HD specifications are HSDPA/WCDMA:
*
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
* Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
*
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
We need the great chefs to start cooking!! This would really make my day, actually my year!!!
It is way beyond me, but if it is possible some here at xda will be able to do it.
But, since it hasn't been done, I doubt it.
Has to be more to it than stated in the letters
It certainly would be worth a nice donation, if it were true.
Hello, I think there are some mis-communication of facts from HTC. The HTC Touch HD does have 3G chipsets config for Asia/Europe of 900/2100 MHz. It does not have the hardware configured for the AT&T 3G network (850/1900) or TMO 3G network (1700). Therefore, there is no way (that I am away of) to reconfig the hardware radio chip to meet US requirements. Sorry about this bad news.
Unless you have the Telstra Touch HD (with NextG support) which of course uses 850MHz and 2100MHz for Telstra's 3G (UMTS) service... Something HTC forgot to mention it seems!
It is possible the HD does not pass US Standards certification
HTC cannot state that one region or countries device or frequency will work with another country/region for legal reasons.
This thread is completely inappropriate and has absolutely nothing to do with the development of ROM's!
There was a BAN for Qualcomm powered devices in the US not long ago if you remember! The HD development was started before this BAN was lifted so I think that this is the main reason why there are no US frequences. Now HTC have new models to work on and why should they care for an "OLD" device?
People WE CAN TRY!!!! hope dies last.
Probably we can use somehow radio from FUSE because it is also old model, and by the way G1, HD, FUSE they have approximately same hardware.
Sorry my english.
I'm ready fight to the end!
AFAIK the Blackstone uses the MSM7201A chipset, like the Raphael and G1. Maybe you could use Raph's Radio. Just flash it and see.
I do have the Telstra 850 version that is working fine on ATT 3G(850 band). Using several of the available ROMs in this forum there has been no change in either gain or loss of this band. From some other threads, I think just using the radio ROM from this device has not been successful. So, either a subtle hardware change or a hard coded setting may be the difference between the two.
NeoS2007 said:
AFAIK the Blackstone uses the MSM7201A chipset, like the Raphael and G1. Maybe you could use Raph's Radio. Just flash it and see.
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Please tell me honestly is that really possible? I can try to flash it with out patching, and it won't kill my phone.
I downloaded AT&T radio from FUSE & tryed to flash it... but i faced a small problem, i need to sign RAPH's NBH for BLACKSTONE. I tryed to change string RAPH**** to BLAC**** in hex but flashing failed due to RSA_Failure... If someone of GURUS could explain me how to deal with NBH files (how to edit & sign) probably i could try to patch raphaels radio.
Sorry my english.
I am in the same boat...
I am in the same boat...I have great respect for this forum and the developers here and I would be willing to patch or flash my phone to try to get the AT&T 3G to work. Just tell me what to do. I am in the USA.
I bought this phone thinking it was 3G and have been greatly disappointed with this sad problem that I am sure can be fixed if someone took time to do it. I would gladly donate. This is the only reason I am considering selling the phone after 1 month of usage...
By the way, PM if you are interested.
You need a security unlocked HD to flash non-HD radios or HTC's HD private RSA key to re-sign it. ATM there is no publicly known way to do a security unlock on Blackstone. Even if there was, there isn't any software limitation in radio ROM that prevents US 3G from working on Blackstone, so flashing a Fuze radio ROM won't change a thing.
This is a hardware limitation (just like with other recent HTC devices - Diamond, Raphael, Kovsky/X1); there are no amplifiers for NA 3G frequences in EMEA units. Period.
stepw said:
You need a security unlocked HD to flash non-HD radios or HTC's HD private RSA key to re-sign it. ATM there is no publicly known way to do a security unlock on Blackstone. Even if there was, there isn't any software limitation in radio ROM that prevents US 3G from working on Blackstone, so flashing a Fuze radio ROM won't change a thing.
This is a hardware limitation (just like with other recent HTC devices - Diamond, Raphael, Kovsky/X1); there are no amplifiers for NA 3G frequences in EMEA units. Period.
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Thank you very much for clear answer, but why then HTC says that there is no hardware difference between HD & Telstra HD?
HTC Touch HD - US 3G Radio Configuration - Call With AT&T Tech support
Can AT&T Force certain IMEI #'s into 2G or 3G?
Here is a brief Outline of my conversation with an AT&T Tech support official. (who had a rather sexy voice by the way...)
ME) I explained that I had an AT&T 3G Tilt, and that I had bought a Touch HD, and explained I transferred my SIM and that I only got EDGE 2G.
ME) I asked her what settings I needed to configure in order to get 3G?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) I would be happy to help you, I'll need the IMEI #:
ME) I gave it to her
AT&T TECHNICIAN) I have this Phone in our System to only receive 2G.
ME) Clearly my phone can receive 3G, I have the settings in my Bands frequencies the phone is picking up of (UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900))
ME) Is this your 3G frequencies?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) Yes.
ME) So if my Phone can detect these frequencies, and I have a 3G SIM card in, why isn't my phone on the 3G network?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) It should be. Sir the Phone was not supplied by us, so we cannot be sure what is causing your phone's issues.
AT&T TECHNICIAN) Let's jump into your phones connection settings
---------- She had me switch just about every setting in the phone's connection settings and in the Phone's properties, with no success of 3G ever working.
But I think the importance of all this was that, she had no idea why the phone didn't work, but was under the impression from the information I gave her and the information she had the phone should have worked?
Which makes you wonder if, it was all a ploy on the part of AT&T, or does the phone plain simply non work in 3G or....
Is it all a result of the IMEI# being blocked at the core to only receive 2G.
Can we muffle the IMEI# to look like another device like the Tilt or the FUZE?
ok seriously this thread is just descending into pure ridiculousness. The t8282 cannot do US 3g PERIOD. It has nothing to do w/ ATT or any other gsm company outside of the bands they use, which is not going to change.
Your HD DOES NOT have the radio functionality to connect to US 3g, if you want one that can connect to @ least the 850mhz spectrum, which only some providers use in limited areas GET A T8285.
Upon receiving word of descending into ridiculousness... I'll stop posting Conversation threads from HTC and AT&T - again I thought I was helping the cause... The Touch HD is still a great phone, 3G would be nice but not needed. I still have my Tilt...ahhh my good ole' Tilt
Darkriderdesign said:
Upon receiving word of descending into ridiculousness... I'll stop posting Conversation threads from HTC and AT&T - again I thought I was helping the cause... The Touch HD is still a great phone, 3G would be nice but not needed. I still have my Tilt...ahhh my good ole' Tilt
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IMO, there's no such thing as a wrong/ridiculous opinion, anyone is free to share his thoughts and views. But it's wise to give up when it's time to give up...
Apart from a few ICs (frequency amplifiers), radio hardware is the same in T8282 and T8285. Your peers at HTC and AT&T may not be aware of the hardware differences/limitations. Unless you communicate with someone at engineering level, you won't know the truth, it's always a speculation to a certain degree.
has anyone extracted the Telstra Radio?. I'll be happy to test it on my HD.
Yes i have a question concerning about the 3G network for AT&T. I have read alot of sticky's, threads new and old and can't seem to get a definite answer to what i am looking for. I really didnt want to post this, but i have searched everything by going into the search tab at the top. So i was wondering does the version Diam100 from EU/Asia have the hardware to support 3G for AT&T. I know it says it in the tabs on the phone that it can recieve the 3G band, but i have read its the hardware that can't but they werent sure. I've also read that some people say it needs a newer radio and/or ROM to get 3G. I really dont want to flash a new radio onto my phone if i dont need it. Can someone so kind as to tell me if it is or it is not capable so i can decide to keep the phone or not.
Thank you ever so much,
Xero
EU/Asia diamond won't work in US, i even tired swapping a US radio into a Euro Diamond and still didn't work. Only US diamond with US radio will give you 3G.
Hope it helps.
Kinda figured. But how bout this. Can anybody answer this its most likely a no but im just curious. Can you add/change the hardware from inside to receive 3G? And if so how? I know the answer is a no but someone might of done it or figured it out without messing up the phone.
us vs north america
averma said:
EU/Asia diamond won't work in US, i even tired swapping a US radio into a Euro Diamond and still didn't work. Only US diamond with US radio will give you 3G.
Hope it helps.
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is the us considered its own seperate band or does it share the same bands as canada and mexico? i ask b/c i bought my diamond from a canadian and i truly hope its 3g works here inthe states. i am with t-mobile and they dont have 3g in my area yet.
kwambewright said:
is the us considered its own seperate band or does it share the same bands as canada and mexico? i ask b/c i bought my diamond from a canadian and i truly hope its 3g works here inthe states. i am with t-mobile and they dont have 3g in my area yet.
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What version do you have of the phone and what ROM and Radio? If its from Asia/EU then thats a no.
Xero Omega said:
What version do you have of the phone and what ROM and Radio? If its from Asia/EU then thats a no.
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p3700 about to try udk's R3 i think its the latest htc stock radio 1.11.25.01
currently XBoxmods