Not many videos available for the gear but CNET did an overview of it today (09/26). Granted it's some information we already know, but the video is high quality and its nice to see the different shots of the gear and some of its current features.
Yeah, I get he's a hipster and all but seriously run comb through your hair if you are going to be on camera and look a bit more polished and professional.
version with sony sensor
xperia z3
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165843-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165790-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165842-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
xperia z3 (red clouds, blue asphalt)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165835-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4 (blue asphalt)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165784-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6 (bit yelowness)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165834-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
xperia z3 (cold colors, no yellow)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165839-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4 (yellowness)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165788-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6 (ideal)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165838-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
xperia z3 (cold colors, bad DR)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165853-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4 (Tree and tile quite a bit blueness and soil bit rosiness, good DR)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165802-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6 (ideal colors, very good DR)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165852-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
xperia z3 (all cold)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165805-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4 (blue lamppost, bit yellowish)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165804-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6 (good)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165856-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
version with samsung sensor
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Apple_iPhone_6_Plus_vs_Samsung_GALAXY_Note_4.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r732fu9TJE
in samsung sensor cold and rosiness colors, blue instead gray or white, rosines instead brown etc., no yellow color, oversaturation)
Wait... there's two variants of the Note 4 with different sensors?
How do I find out which one I have?
sonyfan12 said:
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you're not familiar with the practical part.. samsung sensor currently not in Note4 and possibly will not
It's the same Sony sensor afaik. There is no version with the "Samsung sensor".
Note 4 is better, with generally clearer, less noisy photos and better colors.
Pako7 said:
you're not familiar with the practical part.. samsung sensor currently not in Note4 and possibly will not
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Only samsung sensors make oversaturated colors
Also phonearena and other sites write that there isocell sensor
also g3 photos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55938009&postcount=6
sonyfan12 said:
Only samsung sensors make oversaturated colors
Also phonearena and other sites write that there isocell sensor
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i look opensource, applets, library Note4, and service info at photo from device and see that used Sony sensor. And I do the same that come up there "phonearena and other sites"
sonyfan12 said:
Only samsung sensors make oversaturated colors
Also phonearena and other sites write that there isocell sensor
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those reviewers doesn't clarify it,they randomly saying it as the same sensor as in S5 with OIS--thats not true...................for N4 16:9 sensors are outsourced from sony as specified by samsung to implement isocell concept in them.............................
Pako7 said:
i look opensource, applets, library Note4, and service info at photo from device and see that used Sony sensor. And I do the same that come up there "phonearena and other sites"
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Don't know. I answered. Two facts against one.
Also you wrote this
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"I looked Chinese firmware N9106WZNU1ANIG (unit on Snap 805) and I want to say that in Snap apparently can occur Samsung S5K2P2 and Sony IMX240 sensors. Check who is interesting."
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kannanX10 said:
for N4 16:9 sensors are outsourced from sony as specified by samsung to implement isocell concept in them.............................
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lol
sonyfan12 said:
Don't know. I answered. Two facts against one.
Also you wrote this.."I looked Chinese firmware N9106WZNU1ANIG (unit on Snap 805) and I want to say that in Snap apparently can occur Samsung S5K2P2 and Sony IMX240 sensors. Check who is interesting."
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yes.. but this files for S5K2P2 have only on N9106W_device from all I've ever seen firmware Note4. And not the fact that when in this device will be used this sensor. And if you're so good orientation on 4pda - look for all my posts in which I talked about Sony_sensor and honor.
I'm have already mentioned and XDA and 4PDA how both photos from the device to determine which sensor is worth it. Or use my prog PUMa.
Goodluck
Look at the car, only isocell sensor can make this oversaturation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9r732fu9TJE#t=37
sonyfan12 said:
Look at the car, only isocell sensor can make this oversaturetion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9r732fu9TJE#t=37
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Sony also is not bad do it. Let's you wait on Chipworks radiographs camera_module with several varieties of Note4 devices - everything will be clear to you.
I cannot believe no site has the specs of the sensor yet... Anyone able to confirm the sensor and its specs from their device?
https://translate.google.com/transl.../news/201410/a8tsZojQNe4kAfwi.html&edit-text=
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https://translate.google.com/transl.../news/201410/a8tsZojQNe4kAfwi.html&edit-text=
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again?? he is deeply mistaken and I'm tired already explain why .. for example here honour - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55749031&postcount=44
Finally, a real camera evaluation. GSMArena's posted their review of the Note 4 ( http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_4-review-1147.php ). They and Anandtech both due ridged objective testing which they subject all the devices they test to equally. So the results can be compared across devices. I personally put little value in sites that basically offer their opinion which, so far, all that's been posted represent. There are some pro and semi-pro photographers on XDA whose opinions I value but most people here posting pics of their dog and critiquing it aren't really reliable references. And people owning each brand of smartphone swear their brand's camera(s) are the best. And let's face it, if you search the Internet hard enough you can find substantiation for just about any point you're trying to make. That's why objective testing is so important - you can't fight facts and controlled examples.
Here are some excerpts from GSMArena's testing of the S-805 version of the Note 4's camera...
Focusing has been improved this year with the inclusion of phase detection pixels on the sensor. It's the same technology that premiered on the Samsung Galaxy S5 but it's even faster this time around. The LG G3 and the Apple iPhone 6 and 6 Plus offer a similar hybrid auto focus systems combining the traditional contrast detect auto focus with phase detect.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 takes excellent pictures. The higher megapixel count is noticeable and we welcome the wider aspect of the images as both allow a bigger, better photo. Detail is superb, especially in the center of the photo but still doesn't degrade too much towards the far edges.
Images came out tack sharp across the frame and focusing was spot on. We noticed that the Galaxy Note 4 was very fast to lock on and even surpassed the Samsung Galaxy S5 on every occasion.
Colors aren't as punchy as those of the Galaxy S5 but are still vibrant. The white balance was spot on, finding a great middle ground between cold and warm. Scenes are well exposed and we like the dynamic range from the 16MP camera - the shadow and highlight areas of the image are well exposed.
There is some noise visible in the shadows and in solid colors (such as in the sky) but it's kept reasonably under control.
The autofocus when capturing close up (macro) images fares extremely well. The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 can get very close to its subject (around 6cm) and capture detailed images. There is also a reasonable separation from the object and the background leading to a nice blurred effect (bokeh).
HDR samples aim to expose the entire frame better by capturing a series of shots at different exposures and matching them for the final result. We like the HDR effect on the Galaxy Note 4 - it gets a lot of detail back into the shadows but also improves upon the highlights
Overall, we can say that the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 carries one of the most capable cameras you can find on a smartphone. The quality is very high, detail is aplenty and things are always in focus and always sharp. The large resolution is welcome and the 16:9 makes much more sense than 4:3 (or any other ratio for that matter) on a 16:9 device.Versus Note 3
Looking at the samples in good light it's clear the Galaxy Note 4 has the upper hand. It manages to squeeze a little bit more detail compared to its predecessor. However the Galaxy Note 3 doesn't lag too far behind. Truth be told, there is more noise in the Galaxy Note 3 image, especially in the sky. The noise in the Galaxy Note 4 image is better controlled and finer.
In scenes with more fine detail the 16MP snapper of the Galaxy Note 4 is clearly superior. The textures on the wall of the building below indicate just that. Not only that, but it clearly has a better dynamic range, as the highlights on the left are not blown as on the right, while keeping nearly the same exposure of the shadows.Versus SGS5
When it comes to low light we pit the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 against the Samsung Galaxy S5. Both have 16MP ISOCELL cameras with identical f/2.2 apertures so the amount of light hitting the sensor should be about the same. The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 has the added bonus of optical image stabilization, which should allow it to snap photos at lower shutter speeds than the S5.
The images below are shot at ISO 500 (automatic ISO) and with a shutter speed of 1/10s. As you can see the Samsung Galaxy S5 has a blurrier image while the Galaxy Note 4 keeps things a little more sharp at the same shutter speed. All four images were captured handheld.
Here's GSMArena's six device camera shoot out test. In order of performance:
Lumia 1020
SGS5
LG G3
Oppo Find 7)
Xperia Z2 [Z3 has the same camera]
iP5s
They left out the HTC M8 because its 4MP camera doomed it from the beginning.
http://www.gsmarena.com/camera_shootout-review-1104p8.php
everyone keeps saying the N4 is ISOCELL, but i thought samsung still hasn't implemented OIS into their ISOCELL tech, and that this is a Sony sensor? why hasn't there been any conclusive evidence to show what sensor it is? i hated the GS5 ISOCELL a lot, but the N4 seems much more promising.
jayochs said:
everyone keeps saying the N4 is ISOCELL, but i thought samsung still hasn't implemented OIS into their ISOCELL tech, and that this is a Sony sensor? why hasn't there been any conclusive evidence to show what sensor it is? i hated the GS5 ISOCELL a lot, but the N4 seems much more promising.
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In my opinion, GSMArena saying the below is pretty conclusive. As a recognized publication they have access to Samsung's PR cadre, internal tech resources, and documentation that the public doesn't. They could be wrong but until someone more credible than they are says otherwise I'm going with what they've said. What's inconclusive is all the random screen caps, editorial in Asian languages translated in to pigeon English, and a bunch of Internet reader's posting here and positioning themselves as Samsung insiders and expert photographers. When it comes to low light we pit the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 against the Samsung Galaxy S5. Both have 16MP ISOCELL cameras with identical f/2.2 apertures so the amount of light hitting the sensor should be about the same. The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 has the added bonus of optical image stabilization, which should allow it to snap photos at lower shutter speeds than the S5.
Here's two more sources (although I think GSMArena's the most credible)...
Speaking about image quality, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 utilizes ISOCELL sensor technology that significantly improved image quality by using barriers between adjacent pixels. This reduces crosstalk by around 30%. Each pixel can now hold 30% more electrons, The higher Full Well Capacity also reduces charge leakage to neighbor pixels, because it the charge reaches to its max limit, it can cause leaking that can lead to blown highlight areas in the image. It’s true that as the pixel pitch (microns) is larger, the electrons that can be stored per pixel is higher. This is why we usually see cameras with larger sensors, ones that have larger pixels have better signal-to-noise ratio and also a higher dynamic range.
http://www.cameradebate.com/2014/iphone-6-plus-camera-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-4-camera/The new Galaxy Note 4 camera is a 16-megapixel design with Samsung’s ISOCELL technology to give better low-light shots, along with auto focus and new this year, Smart Optical Image Stabilization (OIS).
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/10/samsung-galaxy-note-4s-4k-video-impressive-new-standard.html
Color accuracy seems to be a problem as well as white balance in low light shots. For instance, compare the JUMBO text in the low-light photos between the iPhone 6+ and Note 4 from the gsmarena review.
Note 4:
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/samsung-galaxy-note-4/camera/gsmarena_016.jpg
iPhone 6+:
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/apple-iphone-6-plus/camera/gsmarena_015.jpg
I will admit the Note 4 took the shot in an even darker environment but the difference is quite literally night and day.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG V10 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Nice Video Camera test.
Made some daytime videos (T-Mobile ver.)
Here is the auto mode https://youtu.be/t5J4_0Bdps8 , https://youtu.be/vYoLp__C4t4 , https://youtu.be/B4t2B--90pE .
This is HD manual https://youtu.be/2HQA3DSL5Rk , https://youtu.be/5GiwX9qkSSI .
Nightime video is much worse.
Totally disappointed. Frequent focusing in both modes - better than it was on my LG G2. But still shaky
The low light video capture quality is really bad in comparsition with my old S6 Edge. There is so much noise? I think it's a software based issue. Hope that LG or our developers will solve this problem. I like my device (H960) but the quality should much better
I really like this aspect of the phone. Lots of options and the ability to take a still while shooting video is a wonderful thing! Good job LG.
I'm going to a festival, what would be recommended to do to get the best video recording?
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Just a quick sample clip for the 8k shooting in case anyone is interested in its quality, no post editing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_YcA-BrMVA
8K is marketing gimmickry, pure and simple.
HOWEVER, for someone needing an action shot, it may be feasible to shoot in 8K as after all, you will never find a mobile device (yet) that can capture stills at 24 fps. Surely in one of those frames you'll have your action shot. AE/AF lock is needed to prevent focus hunting from messing you up, however.
Laser autofocus does nothing to stop annoying AF hunting during video. Fortunately, in pro mode this can be set manually to stop this nonsense. It's always been the case with video. Nothing is more annoying than watching a video while the AF hunts in and and out continuously. Very distracting.
The "metallic rain" sound capture deficiency seems to have (finally!) been fixed with the Note 20 Ultra! Even the S20 Ultra has it. If you take video outside around ambients with wind noise or noise from traffic you will notice it. Also if you plan to zoom during video it's imperative to disable the audio zoom feature. That will drive you nuts.