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Hi,
I just bought the Spice version of X6 (Spice MI-410)
Its a killer phone but I've got a few problems with it . Currently I've sent it for replacement. the problems are
1.How much RAM does it have.Before buying it I checked everywhere it said that there was 512 MB RAM.But quadrant standard shows 352 MB total and free is usually 170-200 MB. It would be okay if free memory would have been 350 as the OS consumes RAM but it shows TOTAL 352 MB and then goes ahead and deducts 150 MB more.
Can anybody check and tell me if thats the case with every mobile or only this one.
2.CAMERA. It records really slowly and , I dont know how to explain this, but the picture looks solarized even with normal settings. Everything looks as its been painted ( like solarization but to a less degree - although it becomes extreme at times depending on light) . I ve tried camera 360 which shows the same results.
In areas with even a bit of shadows, it appears fully dark. talk about 5MP
Is this really the quality of the camera or was only this one faulty, because the shopkeeper showed me another model which had the same problem
Anyways I've sent it for replacement as the front camera(again REALLY bad quality) looked like it was recording through moisture ( shopkeeper didnt accept my back cam and ram problems) , so will I get the same quality or a better phone.
PS - I 've looked at video recordings online but they are all outside with minimal shadows , so I dont know if only this phone had the problem or not. Sorry didnt extract photos befrore submitting the phone so I could show them to you.
PPS- REALLY Sorry for the long rant , but I like giving all info , and is everybody Indian on the X6 forum (me too)
Dude for camera I wanna say its frame per second is too low (only 15fps)... Thats why u r facing solarizing effect which u r saying in ur thread. For improve the camera quality u have to overclock ur camera....! I don't know how to overclock camera Searching the same...
@Serecomputing
Thanks for the reply. Do you face that stupid effect too ( Is it on every handset ?). I am asking because reviewers said that the camera is good ( look up iGyaan's upload of the phone's video and photo samples, they look good and smooth, but then again they are outdoor samples)
What about the RAM?
PS- could some mod remove the 5 min editing limit on me?
mi410 RAM
How much RAM does have in spice MI 410.Before buying it I checked everywhere it said that there was 512 MB RAM.But quadrant standard shows 380 MB total..
Also facing same camera problem and 380 mb ram.....!!!
Okay , it seems like the cam and ram are built like that. So do any of the uber extreme hax modders know anyway to fix these problems . Both are BIG bummers.
bump.
Can somebody upload a video sample , preferably both indoors and outdoors.
And don't forget to tell how much RAM is there.
I heard some where that the ram is use for the graphics processor and that is why it only shows 350mb
Oh and specs everywhere show that it has 2GB internal memory (ROM) but screenshots and my personal experience give 0.97 GB .
Is everything a lie about this phone!!?!?!!
hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
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I tried both. The 920 is good but the system (Windows Mobile) it's running on is a complete disaster (Lack of apps, ugly UI, etc). It's build and design is also nothing less than pathetic in comparison to the Z. You won't notice a big difference in the pixel density unless you put your eyes very close to the display but I would still side with the Z because if a dead pixel arises, it will much harder to notice it on the Z, since its display is much more densely packed with them. The processor is also superior on the Z but what the 920 has, will suffice for most tasks aside from the newest and latest games (Once again, the Z wins here because it's more future-proof).
On a side notice, could you try to write nicer next time, the use of shorthand is annoying.
Traczyk said:
I tried both. The 920 is good but the system (Windows Mobile) it's running on is a complete disaster (Lack of apps, ugly UI, etc). It's build and design is also nothing less than pathetic in comparison to the Z. You won't notice a big difference in the pixel density unless you put your eyes very close to the display but I would still side with the Z because if a dead pixel arises, it will much harder to notice it on the Z, since its display is much more densely packed with them. The processor is also superior on the Z but what the 920 has, will suffice for most tasks aside from the newest and latest games (Once again, the Z wins here because it's more future-proof).
On a side notice, could you try to write nicer next time, the use of shorthand is annoying.
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thanks 4 ur help
just a question.....if i didnt know that xperia z is quad and lumia is dual....would i notice that in performance?
about WP 8 i actually love it .....llack of apps will be fixed gradually...and i heard that xperia z lags more than lumia 920..true?.............and what about battery life?
thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
thanks 4 ur help
just a question.....if i didnt know that xperia z is quad and lumia is dual....would i notice that in performance?
about WP 8 i actually love it .....llack of apps will be fixed gradually...and i heard that xperia z lags more than lumia 920..true?.............and what about battery life?
thanks in advance
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quad and dual are very noticible.. quad can fast proccesing in apps,ofcors its quad, ull notice that on dual core. u might take catching up sometime when opening an app.. (windows phone for me not that useable by my daily basis).. im using ZL same specs in Z.. i dont have any problems with it.. my suggestion is use Z.. battery life so far not an issue anyways.. its on how you use ur phone..
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quad and dual are very noticible.. quad can fast proccesing in apps,ofcors its quad, ull notice that on dual core. u might take catching up sometime when opening an app.. (windows phone for me not that useable by my daily basis).. im using ZL same specs in Z.. i dont have any problems with it.. my suggestion is use Z.. battery life so far not an issue anyways.. its on how you use ur phone..
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thanks 4 ur reply but about processor let me agree and disagree aswell..........dual vs quad ofcourse quad wins but lumia runs WP8 with no lags at all....in some vids that i watched on Youtube i saw that devices with Quad core as Xperia z and With Android just lags a bit....they said something about adware..malware wich slows android down
abokorayem said:
thanks 4 ur reply but about processor let me agree and disagree aswell..........dual vs quad ofcourse quad wins but lumia runs WP8 with no lags at all....in some vids that i watched on Youtube i saw that devices with Quad core as Xperia z and With Android just lags a bit....they said something about adware..malware wich slows android down
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Yes,as my friend using wp8 i used it for a few minutes,my observation is the the os is light,very minimal use of processing,i agree aswell,but for having quad im sure it helps fast speed, ofcors by the help of ram to take effect.. Quad integrates on multi tasking and as what i say,ram is there to help.. And it boils to what you comfortably using.. Lets keep this thread very useful. On some other threads comparing etc. Is been lockdown..
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julianalexander said:
Yes,as my friend using wp8 i used it for a few minutes,my observation is the the os is light,very minimal use of processing,i agree aswell,but for having quad im sure it helps fast speed, ofcors by the help of ram to take effect.. Quad integrates on multi tasking and as what i say,ram is there to help.. And it boils to what you comfortably using.. Lets keep this thread very useful. On some other threads comparing etc. Is been lockdown..
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I agree all the way with u but....i got something to say which will need confirmation from u
that this is : If iam not a gamer or care alot about heavy 3d games....Lumia 920 would match me more,right?
I mean camera...speakers....even display (bravia engine is only on in photos and vids while HD+ and pure motion r always on)
oh btw....after the buttons bar (the grey one) how large the screen is?4.8 inchs or what?
Thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
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First of all let's compare both phones in spec.
You can check it here for more info: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4967&idPhone2=5204
But the most important features.
Screen:
Lumia 920: HD 1280x768 4.5" 332 ppi
Xperia Z: FULL HD 1920x0180 5" 441 ppi
There is quite a difference between full hd and hd also the ppi are much higher in the XZ, so the pictures/full hd videos will look much crisp on the XZ.
Weight
L920: 185 g (6.53 oz)
XZ: 146 g (5.15 oz)
The L920 is heavy, 40g more than the XZ. You will notice that
Memory / Storage
L920: 1Gb RAM / 32GB No sd-card slot
XZ: 2Gb Ram / 16GB Sd card slot
Ram depends on the OS and the usage. Storage is bigger on the L920 by default but no option to increase the storage.
Bluetooth
L920: 3.2
XZ: 4.0
If you use bluetooth a lot the 4.0 protocol is much reliable.
Camera:
L920: 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, optical image stabilization, autofocus, dual-LED flash
XZ: 13.1 MP, 4128x3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
If I'm not wrong, L920 camera is much better in low light condition and in general terms.
OS
L920: Microsoft Windows Phone 8
XZ: Android OS, v4.1.2
Android has much more apps than WP8 in the market, the customization of android is endless (you can access file system, modify the whole rom, kernel) rather than in the wp8 is much more limited.
CPU / GPU
L920: Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait / Adreno 225
XZ: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait /Adreno 320
Depends on OS and usage. Quad-core much faster than Dual-core.
Radio
L920 No
XZ: Stereo FM radio with RDS
If you need Radio FM, it's a no brainer. XZ has it, L920 doesn't. Obviously there is always Internet Radio that works using data mobile.
Battery:
L920: 2000mAh
XZ: 2330mAh
Price (SIM free):
L920: £399 Carphone Warehouse
XZ: £489 Carphone Warehouse
L920 is cheaper
Around the same battery life.
Right, now. Ask yourself this questions.
What are you going to use the phone for?
What is your budget?
Do you use app intensive taks? Playing heavy CPU/GPU intensive games?
Do you find useful the Water/Dust resistance on the XZ, (ie it's protected from rain, failing into water by accident)?
wawyed said:
First of all let's compare both phones in spec.
You can check it here for more info: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4967&idPhone2=5204
But the most important features.
Screen:
Lumia 920: HD 1280x768 4.5" 332 ppi
Xperia Z: FULL HD 1920x0180 5" 441 ppi
There is quite a difference between full hd and hd also the ppi are much higher in the XZ, so the pictures/full hd videos will look much crisp on the XZ.
Weight
L920: 185 g (6.53 oz)
XZ: 146 g (5.15 oz)
The L920 is heavy, 40g more than the XZ. You will notice that
Memory / Storage
L920: 1Gb RAM / 32GB No sd-card slot
XZ: 2Gb Ram / 16GB Sd card slot
Ram depends on the OS and the usage. Storage is bigger on the L920 by default but no option to increase the storage.
Bluetooth
L920: 3.2
XZ: 4.0
If you use bluetooth a lot the 4.0 protocol is much reliable.
Camera:
L920: 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, optical image stabilization, autofocus, dual-LED flash
XZ: 13.1 MP, 4128x3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
If I'm not wrong, L920 camera is much better in low light condition and in general terms.
OS
L920: Microsoft Windows Phone 8
XZ: Android OS, v4.1.2
Android has much more apps than WP8 in the market, the customization of android is endless (you can access file system, modify the whole rom, kernel) rather than in the wp8 is much more limited.
CPU / GPU
L920: Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait / Adreno 225
XZ: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait /Adreno 320
Depends on OS and usage. Quad-core much faster than Dual-core.
Radio
L920 No
XZ: Stereo FM radio with RDS
If you need Radio FM, it's a no brainer. XZ has it, L920 doesn't. Obviously there is always Internet Radio that works using data mobile.
Battery:
L920: 2000mAh
XZ: 2330mAh
Price (SIM free):
L920: £399 Carphone Warehouse
XZ: £489 Carphone Warehouse
L920 is cheaper
Around the same battery life.
Right, now. Ask yourself this questions.
What are you going to use the phone for?
What is your budget?
Do you use app intensive taks? Playing heavy CPU/GPU intensive games?
Do you find useful the Water/Dust resistance on the XZ, (ie it's protected from rain, failing into water by accident)?
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First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
abokorayem said:
First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
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Then zl is ur choice compromising the water resistant.. Even ur not gamer better specs still.. Use quad. Xperia z to say..
About the softkeys,theres a mod resizing that to 25 and black and depending what size u want. 48dpi is stock softkeys.. Lot of devlopers on z.
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abokorayem said:
First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
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Take into account that appart from the DPI, one is HD (720p) and the other is Full-HD (1080p), there is a difference between them. You will notice it while browsing a website and zooming to read, it will be much sharp in the XZ.
If you are going to read e-book you will find it more easier in a bigger screen, 5" vs 4.5" is quite a difference in screen size.
At the end of the day is a matter of preference, Android vs WP8. Right now I think Android is a better OS in terms of app and support. Also XZ has the technological advantage compared to the L920. For the price of both I would go for the XZ, personally. As someone said before, XZ is more future-proof, a Dual core and 720p is getting obsolete and 1gb ram is quite low imho. If you are not convinced with the XZ, there are other options: Samsung, HTC, LG.
The best thing to do is go to a shop and hold both at the same time, try most of the features and go for the one your guts tells you.
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wawyed said:
Take into account that appart from the DPI, one is HD (720p) and the other is Full-HD (1080p), there is a difference between them. You will notice it while browsing a website and zooming to read, it will be much sharp in the XZ.
If you are going to read e-book you will find it more easier in a bigger screen, 5" vs 4.5" is quite a difference in screen size.
At the end of the day is a matter of preference, Android vs WP8. Right now I think Android is a better OS in terms of app and support. Also XZ has the technological advantage compared to the L920. For the price of both I would go for the XZ, personally. As someone said before, XZ is more future-proof, a Dual core and 720p is getting obsolete and 1gb ram is quite low imho. If you are not convinced with the XZ, there are other options: Samsung, HTC, LG.
The best thing to do is go to a shop and hold both at the same time, try most of the features and go for the one your guts tells you.
If I helped you, you could press the thanks button
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already pressed thanks putton ^_^
what do u think of this
LG Optimus G LS970?
so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
abokorayem said:
so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
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After settling for 5 inch phone, I would never go for anything below it. I have seen the Optimus g is person . It's quite nice. If I'm not wrong the specs of Optimus g and xperia z is almost the same s4 pro quad core with 2 gb ram. Except it's not full hd like the xz and at a lower ppi 318 vs xz's 441. And no ip55/57 rating. The screen looks nice but I haven't tried reading on it. I just watch a video playback.
Sent from my Xperia Z
abokorayem said:
so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
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I had them both in my hand , my friend's LG and a co-worker had the Xperia... Personally I ordered the Xperia Z and waiting for it. It's much more solid built and I believe strongly in Sony , not to be the fanboy but ask around and everyone will tell you that LG will never be competion to Sony unless you want to spend less !!!
I have an xperia play and I love it but poor performance I have a few questions that if You guys answer me I'll be very happy cause I want to trade this phone for an 2x . So :
-Do games have 50+ fps in ICS ? (cause I have about 20-25-30 with xperia play )
-Any OC ability(cpu/gpu) ? And does it improve performance by lots?
-Is 512mb ram a big bottleneck ? Or does tegra2 do good anyway?
-Some links to good roms ? It's interesting to see features before getting the phone.
-How much free ram on ICS ?
-And finally what's the biggest antutu benchmark you guys got ?
McXeno said:
I have an xperia play and I love it but poor performance I have a few questions that if You guys answer me I'll be very happy cause I want to trade this phone for an 2x . So :
-Do games have 50+ fps in ICS ? (cause I have about 20-25-30 with xperia play )
-Any OC ability(cpu/gpu) ? And does it improve performance by lots?
-Is 512mb ram a big bottleneck ? Or does tegra2 do good anyway?
-Some links to good roms ? It's interesting to see features before getting the phone.
-How much free ram on ICS ?
-And finally what's the biggest antutu benchmark you guys got ?
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Lol I was using a 2x previously and now I have changed to xperia play to play emu games.
1. Yes for games with low requirements(e.g. Tample Run 2) For latest big games they only have 20~30 fps on ICS. I am not sure which game you are talking about
2. 512mb is rlly a bottleneck for ICS. Although I only have solely Firefox running, if I open 3 tabs, 2x will be laggy. However, it can handle multiple apps with low ram requirement. 2x has the strongest tegra2. T2 is good in gpu but weak in video format support at its times.
3. Just give u the Rom list link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042267. I am from China and I had been using the roms from angeeks forum and thus I am not familiar with the XDA roms.
4.depend on roms. I was using this thin ICS rom (http://bbs.angeeks.com/thread-2687721-1-1.html)modified by a Chinese. Free ram is ard 90MB after starting up
5. my highest is 7035 when locked @ 1Ghz
im8a said:
Lol I was using a 2x previously and now I have changed to xperia play to play emu games.
1. Yes for games with low requirements(e.g. Tample Run 2) For latest big games they only have 20~30 fps on ICS. I am not sure which game you are talking about
2. 512mb is rlly a bottleneck for ICS. Although I only have solely Firefox running, if I open 3 tabs, 2x will be laggy. However, it can handle multiple apps with low ram requirement. 2x has the strongest tegra2. T2 is good in gpu but weak in video format support at its times.
3. Just give u the Rom list link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042267. I am from China and I had been using the roms from angeeks forum and thus I am not familiar with the XDA roms.
4.depend on roms. I was using this thin ICS rom (http://bbs.angeeks.com/thread-2687721-1-1.html)modified by a Chinese. Free ram is ard 90MB after starting up
5. my highest is 7035 when locked @ 1Ghz
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mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play
McXeno said:
mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play
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Welcome. That's great! However, 4x's tegra3 is weak in gpu and may not be a good choice for gaming. You are keen in LG phones?
im8a said:
Welcome. That's great! However, 4x's tegra3 is weak in gpu and may not be a good choice for gaming. You are keen in LG phones?
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I'm not actually , but I'm pretty new in android , 5 months ago I had nokia n95 ) , then alcatel v860->i9000->xperia play now . I want to get something that will be very good in gaming (i like games very much heh) . But I don't have a large budget for phone I may be 150-200 euros for xperia play if i get someone to buy it , and may be put in some 50 euros at best . so 200-250 euros is my budget. I buy only second-hand phones cause it's better than buying new with this kind of money. You have any recomendations ? Also are there in that forum any good roms for xperia play ? It loads veeery slow for me (I'm in bucharest) and poor translations .
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I'm not actually , but I'm pretty new in android , 5 months ago I had nokia n95 ) , then alcatel v860->i9000->xperia play now . I want to get something that will be very good in gaming (i like games very much heh) . But I don't have a large budget for phone I may be 150-200 euros for xperia play if i get someone to buy it , and may be put in some 50 euros at best . so 200-250 euros is my budget. I buy only second-hand phones cause it's better than buying new with this kind of money. You have any recomendations ? Also are there in that forum any good roms for xperia play ? It loads veeery slow for me (I'm in bucharest) and poor translations .
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If you are not a core android fans and not keen in getting a gaming phone, I would recommand touch 5+another phone. Touch 5 has great spec and ios has great compatibility for apps.(Even the "oblique" touch4 can run most games and apps today though a lot are laggy due to only 256 mbram...) It can outweigh all android phones in almost all games in similar price range.
Maybe you can also consider Nvidia Shield(299 US Dollars) in near future, it might be a fantastic gaming gadget.
For xperia play, I am using AuroraPlay(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124442&nocache=1)
McXeno said:
mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play
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How come adreno 205 is better than our gpu?tegra 2 is of the same generation of adreno 220 and it is just a little weaker if i remember correctly.Anyway,if adreno 205 gpu was better,how could you possibly have less fps?
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___guilherme___ said:
How come adreno 205 is better than our gpu?tegra 2 is of the same generation of adreno 220 and it is just a little weaker if i remember correctly.Anyway,if adreno 205 gpu was better,how could you possibly have less fps?
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http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/
Does the Xperia SP handle most highend- games directly out of the box?
Or it requires some rooting, flashing etc.
I'm going to buy the phone soon..
Any recommendations accepted too..
4.3 [207/205] have ram problems. It fc most games. But in custom roms everything seems be okay. Recently I flashed mokee[4.4.4, ubl] and everything is perfect[battery lasts as good as 4.3 or even better, perfomance much better....]. If you want to stay with stock or stock based rom I didn't suggest you to buy xperia SP.
cabba403 said:
Does the Xperia SP handle most highend- games directly out of the box?
Or it requires some rooting, flashing etc.
I'm going to buy the phone soon..
Any recommendations accepted too..
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Well, let me put it like that. Our phone has about 60-65% of the GPU power the latest phones (The one with Adreno 330), our GPU has to render exactly half the pixels cause we have 720p display compare to 1080p. And that's indeed the case. In benchmarks Xperia SP has the same fps (frames per second) as HTC One M8, Xperia Z2, etc. ±10%
So, yes.
I myself am playing Asphalt 8, Dungeon Hunter 4, Dead Trigger 2 on highest setting with smooth gameplay and zero lag.
When it comes to "Stock vs custom ROM/kernel" performance, I'd say that there is significant no difference. Custom kernels give you a little bit CPU boost, but that doesn't really affects games, while custom ROMs's performance isn't as good as the stock one, since Sony didn't provide us with the source and we have to use hacks, in order to be able to run 4.4+.
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Klaudas said:
4.3 [207/205] have ram problems. It fc most games. But in custom roms everything seems be okay. Recently I flashed mokee[4.4.4, ubl] and everything is perfect[battery lasts as good as 4.3 or even better, perfomance much better....]. If you want to stay with stock or stock based rom I didn't suggest you to buy xperia SP.
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The problem is on your end. I was with stock ROM for over a month before switching to Custom ROM and I had no issues what so ever. Please don't spread false information.
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Well, let me put it like that. Our phone has about 60-65% of the GPU power the latest phones (The one with Adreno 330), our GPU has to render exactly half the pixels cause we have 720p display compare to 1080p. And that's indeed the case. In benchmarks Xperia SP has the same fps (frames per second) as HTC One M8, Xperia Z2, etc. ±10%
So, yes.
I myself am playing Asphalt 8, Dungeon Hunter 4, Dead Trigger 2 on highest setting with smooth gameplay and zero lag.
When it comes to "Stock vs custom ROM/kernel" performance, I'd say that there is significant no difference. Custom kernels give you a little bit CPU boost, but that doesn't really affects games, while custom ROMs's performance isn't as good as the stock one, since Sony didn't provide us with the source and we have to use hacks, in order to be able to run 4.4+.
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Yes, you can play most high end games but stock rom ram managment are sh*t. After 24h~ usage free ram left 220-150mb most~. I tried "play" with ram manager but It didn't help.
Klaudas said:
Yes, you can play most high end games but stock rom ram managment are sh*t. After 24h~ usage free ram left 220-150mb most~. I tried "play" with ram manager but It didn't help.
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Just because you don't know how to operate with your phone, that doesn't mean that the phone/ROM is bad. Even with stock ROM I had 250~300MB of free RAM with SwiftKey, NovaLauncher, WidgetLocker, Viber, WhatsApp, few xposed modules, etc.
As I said, the problem is/was on your end...
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Just because you don't know how to operate with your phone, that doesn't mean that the phone/ROM is bad. Even with stock ROM I had 250~300MB of free RAM with SwiftKey, NovaLauncher, WidgetLocker, Viber, WhatsApp, few xposed modules, etc.
As I said, the problem is/was on your end...
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Can you make few SS for me after 24h[ofcourse no reboots]?. If you have more than 10-15 apps installed like me you won't get that amount of ram left after 24h~. No way.
as if certain user experiences would be a lie.
So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
cabba403 said:
So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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With stock rom you won't be able to play high end games without reboots for free ram. If you have time for flashing custom roms everything fine! But if you want to stay with stock I suggest you to buy LG L90 for example.
I wouldnt buy this phone in your place (I wish I hadn't bought it for myself too)
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So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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In it's price range it's the best phone specs wise.
Moto G is a worth buy as well, but it has Adreno 305 which is about twice as slow as our Adreno 320. If you like gaming Xperia SP is the best buy, however it reached it's EOL so you must rely on custom ROMs for further software updates. While Moto G will receive Android L for sure, and I'm pretty sure Motorola will keep maintaining it at less till the end of 2015 since the new Moto G 2014 is pretty similar to the Moto G 2013. But still Moto G's LTE model with SD Card cost more, so you must put this in consideration as well. Going with either phone, you will be pretty pleased. But if I had to buy a new phone now and I had ~150€ to spend I will definitely go with Xperia SP.
P.S.: I have both phones.
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
cabba403 said:
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
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Rear camera is quite decent. Here are few threads with shots from it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/themes-apps/post-photo-xperia-sp-t2823275
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304148
check it
cabba403 said:
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
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this is phone is supposedly great but, as other user mention, the RAM is lacking so it makes it lagging. Sure some games run fine. but try playing real racing 3 with no modifications. it'll burn your battery (doesn't literally burn it, i just mean really hot) and it often lags.
camera wise, it depends on preference. for me this camera sometimes get awesome results outdoor, but it has same problem with many xperia phone. lots of noise if u zoom.
if u have time, read my 1 year review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2778795
The SP's gaming performance is pretty decent - and great for the price. If you're looking to get some idea of what 2D and 3D GPU performance is when choosing a new phone, searching for Antutu benchmarks isn't a bad place to start.
As for the camera, passable outdoors (but noisy), worthless indoors. Mine has even started taking out of focus pictures, even after half pressing camera button to focus first. Might be something to do with the len's protective film being removed (due to scratches)
The issue i have now is that it easily heats up when playing 3d games. Think before buying if you're a gamer.
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carlfinity said:
The issue i have now is that it easily heats up when playing 3d games. Think before buying if you're a gamer.
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Well I found out all devices I've ever used, my friends, my father's are all prone to heat up when playing high end games. This should not be the problem. As far as my inspection on my XSP, it won't get over the 41 degree Celsius barrier. However, I don't know about others though.
Now for some small hardware lecture. Ahem.
3D Games require more power
More power means the processor will step up its clock rate
Higher clock rate means higher power
Processors emits heat upon high power usage
Thus the heat you get.
Ambient temperature can make it worse too, so don't ever do gaming in a hot environment
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Well I found out all devices I've ever used, my friends, my father's are all prone to heat up when playing high end games. This should not be the problem. As far as my inspection on my XSP, it won't get over the 41 degree Celsius barrier. However, I don't know about others though.
Now for some small hardware lecture. Ahem.
3D Games require more power
More power means the processor will step up its clock rate
Higher clock rate means higher power
Processors emits heat upon high power usage
Thus the heat you get.
Ambient temperature can make it worse too, so don't ever do gaming in a hot environment
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Mine too doesnt go pass the 40 degrees mark however other Sony models specially the newer ones feel less hotter than SP so something about this phone is not right.
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carlfinity said:
Mine too doesnt go pass the 40 degrees mark however other Sony models specially the newer ones feel less hotter than SP so something about this phone is not right.
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Well what you feel is different from what it really is. I believe checking the CPU temp on the newer Sony devices (x degree), and compare with our devices (40-41 degree) will finally unfold the mystery behind XSP heating, perhaps?
And difference between dual core and quad core do play an important role, you know
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Well what you feel is different from what it really is. I believe checking the CPU temp on the newer Sony devices (x degree), and compare with our devices (40-41 degree) will finally unfold the mystery behind XSP heating, perhaps?
And difference between dual core and quad core do play an important role, you know
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That makes it seem ironic, does 4 cores draw more power compared with our dual core? I believe so, since newer Sony models have more or less 2.0 ghz clock speed. I still can't believe those devices felt less hotter given the power that they carry. Anyways, this is just my observation that I hope will benefit the soon to be owners of this device.
I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
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walpanmad said:
I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
Sent from my GT-I9070 using xda premium
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none at that price ...
yah you can get one of from your list but they will have certainly some issues so either accept them or increase your budget or reduce yr wish list.
simple understanding that if google sell it's nexus 5 at 28-30k with your requirement ... and google is one company which has lowest profit margin with highest specs... then how can you wish that all these "cheap product makers" can provide you those specs at less than half price ... so deal with that they surely comes with problems...
in my opinion f you don't want to increae budget go for moto G ... it don't have high specs which you wised but it's gr8 phone and no problem ...you won't regret ( PS: it doesn't come with gyrometer so No Photospehere )
Don't create thread for personal and not sgsa related Question we already have OT thread + Q&A thread
Go to G2
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Look for LG L90. Quad Core 1.2ghz processor. Android 4.4.2 KitKat.
I see noce development (for me its nice). I think he will get android L.
And he is olso really cheap.
But 1gb of ram.
walpanmad said:
I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
Sent from my GT-I9070 using xda premium
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jineshpatel30 said:
in my opinion f you don't want to increae budget go for moto G ... it don't have high specs which you wised but it's gr8 phone and no problem ...you won't regret ( PS: it doesn't come with gyrometer so No Photospehere )
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Just found that MOTO G (2014) have gyroscope also so photo-sphere will also work + Motorola conformed that it'll get Lollipop update... so now it's ultimate pack at that price:laugh:
Finally i gone with Panasonic eluga u in 15k because i just want 2gb ram phone wich really needs any android phone for reason of its performance and multitasking
2 gb ram 16 gb internal memory 32 gb expandable 1.2 quad-core snapdragon 400 processor with 305 adreno gpu 720 p hd ogs ips lcd screen with Android kitkat 4.4.2.
I don't know it's right decision to buy this one but i really feel power in my hand now all heavy apps running smoothly no lag no hang
So no need for development for this phone no update for lollipop is disapointing but when performance matters i don't need that
walpanmad said:
Finally i gone with Panasonic eluga u in 15k because i just want 2gb ram phone wich really needs any android phone for reason of its performance and multitasking
2 gb ram 16 gb internal memory 32 gb expandable 1.2 quad-core snapdragon 400 processor with 305 adreno gpu 720 p hd ogs ips lcd screen with Android kitkat 4.4.2.
I don't know it's right decision to buy this one but i really feel power in my hand now all heavy apps running smoothly no lag no hang
So no need for development for this phone no update for lollipop is disapointing but when performance matters i don't need that
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You should have gone to GALAXY GRAND PRIME its a 64 bit processor smartphone with snapdragon 410, maybe 64 bit processors are the future of android
64 bit processor grand prime cant able to play modern combat 4 and alsphat 8