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Td-scdma China Mobile

Hey, China Mobile just went live with their homegrown version of 3g. I was wondering if any of you super smart coders out there if XDA land woudl know if we will eventually be able to download a radio or setting to our TYTN II's that will allow us to use the TD-SCDMA sim cards to access China's 3g network or is it a different chipset?
I've searched all over the internet and I guess i don't know enough about the differences in technology to understand if it will be possible.
If it's not possible I’ll probably end up buying one of the 3g phones that China Mobile has on sale here in Shanghai.
Also what is the best radio to use in china. I know it's all over and I am probably going to get flamed for asking but i everyone seems to have a different opinion and not all the posts include the latest radio's released.
Thanks!

Id love to get an answer for the above question as well. I bought my TyTn II hoping that they would use the same 3G and 3.5G in the future as was available on my TyTn II but it seems it may not be so.
Thanks in advance to all those that respond.

LZ(Chinese word,means #1),td-scdma is available only in china.and no forign phones can work with it

Who's Bought Official Diamond In India??

Friends who have bought an Official Diamond from HTC outlets, please let me know which ROM version is being sold, as worry is the UK stock was supposedly witheld for a ROM update.. Are we getting updated ROM or not??
Also mention the RAM and ROM reads from Indian versions..

look at the diamond rom section here. There are 1.34 and 1.35 rom updates posted. The latest rom anyone has seems to be 1.37 - i expect it will be posted soon.

Thanks someone1234, but i raised the question because the Indian Version is going to be different - Non 3G version, hence the ROM versions may be different...

Hey does it mean no one's as yet bought a diamond in India???
Is official sale in India started or not???

safe to say that...
ppl that claim they have bought have yet to respond and claim from where and source...
so probably no one has it yet

Diamond In India ! Yipee !
I got the diamond yesterday in India for 35k that is about 900USD. It is not official, does not come with a warranty. Seems like a HK version piece to me. The ROM version is 1.35 WWE, Date 05/28/08 - Since I got it I have run advanced config on it and tweaked it by increasing cache size. It is noticably faster now.

amit221 said:
I got the diamond yesterday in India for 35k that is about 900USD. It is not official, does not come with a warranty. Seems like a HK version piece to me. The ROM version is 1.35 WWE, Date 05/28/08 - Since I got it I have run advanced config on it and tweaked it by increasing cache size. It is noticably faster now.
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from where? and what city are you in ?

The Indian Diamond is supposed to launch on the 27th of June afaik.
Its different from the EU versions, uses the MSM7206A processor with no 3G radio

HTC India
the processor on my instrument is Qualcomm 7201A and I have upgraded to ROM version 1.37 WWE. This device also has 3G, I am guessing the official indian version might not. I am located in Delhi and bought it from a dealer here.

Thats not the offical version then.

id rather have the one with 3g than without

I bought my 3G Diamond here in Delhi for 35 Grand its HK version i think and paying 25000/- for non 3g one ...i think 35000 is a good deal.

same here soulpilot, good to have 3G should be getting launched in India in the next9-12 months anyway

Guys, any other difference (other than 3G) between the processors MSM7201A (Worldwide) & MSM7206A (Indian) ??

Not as far as I know. Only difference in the Radio implementation.
One major negative in buying the 3G in India is most HTC service centers will refuse to even touch your phone if theres any problem with it due to the incompatible processors. Some might oblige but most wont. Taken my singapore HTC to the service center the other day for a panel switch and was talking to the service guys about it. He said most of the service centers wont touch any of the 3G diamonds.

i hope the cooked roms work equally well for the indian version as well.

Official sale starts from tomo in India...

karkalanand said:
Official sale starts from tomo in India...
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from where ?

QRS the official distributor of HTC for Kerala..
But it's an Airtel locked phone..
Confirmed that it's arrived today evening at QRS, plan to buy it tomo..
Rs.27,500..

amit221 said:
same here soulpilot, good to have 3G should be getting launched in India in the next9-12 months anyway
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I didnt know the 3g touch diamond is available in India.
Can someone (I see amit221 and soulpilot bot it in Delhi) let me know where they bought it from in the Delhi region?

Which country does this Diamond come from?

Hi guys,
I was wondering on how I can find out from which country my Diamond originates. It came with the following ROM version: 1.35.456.3 WWE and SPL 1.35.
Is there any chance to find out if it is an Asian or European phone? Would it also be possible to understand from which country it specifically comes from?
One more info: it came with a Euro-style adapter.
I would like to update the ROM, but would try to avoid to install a HardSPL for now.
Thanks for the help.

it's from Taiwan

Skele said:
it's from Taiwan
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I've seen a "made in Taiwan" on the box, but I guess that HTC produces all phones in Taiwan. Nevertheless they put different SPLs and ROMs on them, depending for which country the shipment is destined.
Did you intend the made in Taiwan or do you think that I got a phone that was build for the Taiwanese market? How would you know that? Looking at the ROM version?

Sounds like an asian unit to me...the european models come with 1.37 rom as far as i know. I should have my UK spec Diamond tommorrow morning so ill check then.
But yours seems to be one of those 'grey' imports ie Asian.

Almost all the PDA phones including the HTC are design and make by Taiwan, an island east of China, west of Japan and south of Korea.
Asia has been designing and manufacturing many phones, include some Nokia, Moto, Sony phones. Of course Samsung is from Korea. I am talking of the big 4 here.
@Spawn12
So anything wrong with Asia made phones?

CWKJ said:
@Spawn12
So anything wrong with Asia made phones?
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Well from what people have been saying on here, there seems to be quite a few problems with them ie laggy interface etc etc. Although people have posted tweaks in order to resolve those issues. Almost put me off buying one but im glad HTC held back the release of the UK spec models in order to apply the 1.37 rom which seems to have solved alot of those earlier issues.

Hmm... Why should an Asian model come with a European plug...
Other thing I noticed. The warranty comes in three languages: English, French and Arabic. Wouldn't make sense for a Hong Kong version, would it? On the other hand the update to the European 1.37 ROM posted on this forum does not work (invalid vendor id).

people seem confused about 'grey' imports and 'asian' phones
ALL diamonds, every single one that we have in our hands, were made in asia, apparently taiwan. they have exactly the same hardware. they are the same phone. The so called 'UK spec' models are exactly the same, with a different ROM. The only advantage of 'UK spec' is probable better local HTC support but even that is debatable. Maybe in the future when HTC do a 2nd production run there will be difference in hardware, but there isn't any now.
HTC distribute these identical devices with different ROMs according to their intended export destination. observed differences in performance come from the different ROMS, occasionally useful tweaks, and the almost superstitious and fanatical obsession many of us seem to have with 'tweaking' our devices' (if you change registry key HKLM/Drivers/Biotouch/SecretPerformanceBoost/Enable to 1 and soft reset, the device is much faster and TF3D more responsive).. I mean we're all geeks or we wouldn't be here but lets try a little perspective. Many of these tweaks don't do anything but give us a comforting dose of placebo effect..

jakuleg said:
Hmm... Why should an Asian model come with a European plug...
Other thing I noticed. The warranty comes in three languages: English, French and Arabic. Wouldn't make sense for a Hong Kong version, would it? On the other hand the update to the European 1.37 ROM posted on this forum does not work (invalid vendor id).
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Guys, do not stress me too much pls . I just finished loading a container of Diamonds for EVA Air heading for Paris tonight.
the Hong Kong version (WWE) is normally NOT foresee for export / sales outside of HK. If you have a box with SIS International Limited on it, it is a Honkie version.
As for te ROM 1.37 and "invalid vendor id" --> welcome to XDA and start reading. the answer is out there (... hardSPL tip)

axlback said:
people seem confused about 'grey' imports and 'asian' phones
ALL diamonds, every single one that we have in our hands, were made in asia, apparently taiwan. they have exactly the same hardware. they are the same phone. The so called 'UK spec' models are exactly the same, with a different ROM. The only advantage of 'UK spec' is probable better local HTC support but even that is debatable. Maybe in the future when HTC do a 2nd production run there will be difference in hardware, but there isn't any now.
HTC distribute these identical devices with different ROMs according to their intended export destination. observed differences in performance come from the different ROMS, occasionally useful tweaks, and the almost superstitious and fanatical obsession many of us seem to have with 'tweaking' our devices' (if you change registry key HKLM/Drivers/Biotouch/SecretPerformanceBoost/Enable to 1 and soft reset, the device is much faster and TF3D more responsive).. I mean we're all geeks or we wouldn't be here but lets try a little perspective. Many of these tweaks don't do anything but give us a comforting dose of placebo effect..
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........ Amen

frm india AND NEED THE DIAMOND2 BADLY PLS HELP

hi frm india and i wanna get the diamond2 but its not gonna be released here for a long time so planning to get it from some other country
SO PLS TELL ME WHICH COUNTRY WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION

Europe!
I think there won't be any serious differences between the European countries...
But think of Germany, because we are the "Export-Champions".
The Touch Diamond 2 will hit the German market (ca.) at the 17th April and will cost about 450€.
take a look:
http://www.amazon.de/HTC-Diamond-Bl...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1237492484&sr=8-1

thanks a ton
but wont it be in german and not english
and wat about getting it frm singapore
thanks

COLMAS said:
thanks a ton
but wont it be in german and not english
and wat about getting it frm singapore
thanks
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well u can still get it and then put a cooked rom on it!!

I have one preordered!
Hi i have just preordered the last one from a site in England, its being shipped to NYC next week, but i just got a work blackberry, if you want it i can ship it over ? It is expensive though, email me!
[email protected]

If you want it in english (delivered from Germany) you can also check on these guys:
http://www.pdamax.de/?art_nr=hc-067&ausWG=Org
They always have the devices in english + german.
Regards
Thorsten

Mr-Fly said:
If you want it in english (delivered from Germany) you can also check on these guys:
http://www.pdamax.de/?art_nr=hc-067&ausWG=Org
They always have the devices in english + german.
Regards
Thorsten
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It works out cheaper to buy from the UK, if you can find someone that does international shipping. The Euro is too strong compared to the pound at the moment to make ordering from the rest of Europe worthwhile.

i too am from mumbai india abnd needed the diamond could some1 let me know when is it expected in india and if i buy it from europe will i still be able to use all features prefer buying it from here though

dude, just get it from Clove UK. they have very good ratings..

n20nine said:
dude, just get it from Clove UK. they have very good ratings..
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yes but will all features of a european diamond work and also during a rom update will u update it as india update or uk update since the radio and connectivity will be different

not 100% sure, but the specs of the euro diamond should essentially be the same as the ones you will get in india..check out the specs, only difference between euro and us version are the wcdma bands and as far as i know india does not have proper 3g connections yet, so why bother?
as far as updates are concerned, u will get the standard update..there is no uk/india update unless your phone is tied to a network. u can go ahead and buy the d2.

I am from India too.. i am planning to buy D2 from Clove.
But what about the excise/customs charges? How much do we have to pay to import the D2?

I think now it's 35% for personal electronic goods (Previously blanket 200%). But never know these corrupt ppl anyways. Not much personal experience.
Also Express shipping DHL are always checked unlike ordinary post which may skip thru. Also for gift items they might consider waiver (upto 10$/INR 500 worth) but not for such costly items. Never misstate the contents as it may get confiscated in addition to getting U into serious legal trouble.

My love and hate for the HD7!

I love the HD7, but I HATE the “t-mobile” logo. It’s hideous! That logo will 100% make me disregard from dropping any cash on that device.
1) Can I get the European version and use it on t-mobile’s 3G network? I assume the new HD7 does not has hspa+.
2) BTW, why is it that the euro HD2 does not have a carrier logo on it?

anyone? whats do u think?

If the HD7 does launch on a international carrier I'm sure you can unlocks it's sim, but don't expect any Tmo-US 3G. Tmobile USA isn't using the 3G standard everyone is using and has been having a hard time getting support from unlocked devices.

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Do you think it will be able to be unlocked to AT&T in the future?

Wind Dancer said:
Do you think it will be able to be unlocked to AT&T in the future?
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Im intrested in knowing this also. Had my hd2 running edge on us att,but that has got old want 3g or better

Telstra is the answer!
An Australian cellphone company by the nemae of Telstra carries the HD2. Telstra operates their 3G network in the 850mhz band which is the same band that AT&T primarily uses. I curently have been using an unlocked Telstra HTC HD2 (costed me $1000) on AT&T's network for several months now and could not be happier, I had to upgrade the firmware, the phone will not run in the U.S. with stock Telstra firmware.
As for the HTC HD 7, Cnet Australia is reporting it is headed for Telstra in early 2011 here is the link to the article: http://www.cnet.com.au/htc-hd7-339306576.htm . I would hold off buying it up untill more info is on xda about replacing the firmware to make it compatible in the U.S.

not sure about the logo thing, i havnt had or seen a phone in the uk with a carrier logo, im not saying ther isnt, i just havnt seen one.

Every year I have bought a new HTC device, but this time it looks like I don't buy one.
My HD2 can make more than the hd7, WP7 can be ported so I have no advice of buying the HD7

based on my experience with the HD2. O2 UK just branded the software, I suppose it was because this was the first HTC phone that they had without any hadrware rebranding. I imagine it was cheaper for O2 too do it this way.
I expect the HD7 will have an O2 HUB and probably colours. In Europe O2 will be provideing 16GB storeage as opposed to the 8 GB for the unbranded European version.
I expect the phone to be SIM locked like the HD2 but you can get an unlock coade from O2. We shall see

Here in germany all o2 devices are unlocked.
Amazon.de sells a HD7 without branding for 599 euros.

ugh. i just hate branding!
are all uk phones unlocked?
my hd2 was bought in europe unlocked.
id like to have an australia hd7, unbranded, and hope that it will work with att 3g.

lemonspeakers said:
ugh. i just hate branding!
are all uk phones unlocked?
my hd2 was bought in europe unlocked.
id like to have an australia hd7, unbranded, and hope that it will work with att 3g.
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If you buy a UK phone from a carrier (like O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, etc.) they will be locked as they are often subsidised by the carrier, although the carrier sometimes unlocks them for no charge if you ask.
In terms of logo use, O2 doesn't seem to brand any of their phones on the outer hardware, they just brand the software. But they seem to be the only one - Vodafone, Orange and T-Mobile over here seem to brand a lot of their phones on the case.

To tell you the truth, that T-Mobile logo looks kinda flashy, makes it seem more elegant... it's pretty funny how you are not purchasing a device and going through such a struggle, just cause it has the company name plastered on the top right corner of the device. Be happy it's not the device name:
The T-Mobile7
lol >.>?

Well... if it's just the Logo you're in luck. T-Mobile, at least in europe, is normally putting there name (and magenta color theme) in every spot possible on device hardware and software.
If you buy it unlocked from europe it will only support the 900 Mhz and 2100 Mhz bands, both of which are not in use in the US. The asian version seems to be the same on that front.
U can look up that information on HTCs homepage in the device specifications.

StevieBallz said:
Well... if it's just the Logo you're in luck. T-Mobile, at least in europe, is normally putting there name (and magenta color theme) in every spot possible on device hardware and software.
If you buy it unlocked from europe it will only support the 900 Mhz and 2100 Mhz bands, both of which are not in use in the US. The asian version seems to be the same on that front.
U can look up that information on HTCs homepage in the device specifications.
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NOOOOOO!!!
then am I sh*t out of luck then? Is there anyone in the world who uses T-mobile's 3G frequencies that WONT brand "T-mobile" on the HD7?
what are my HD7 options if I DO want data on my phone?