future options - MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories

Hi guys! Thanks for your valued labours! I know these are boring questions to you, but.......
Are there any chinks of light in the 'Bluetooth tunnel'?
Is there any possibility that in the future the sd port could be modified to sd/io?
Could an sd/io slot from another PDA be modified to fit in place of the sd or are there other reasons why this won't work?
And finally, will the upgrades mentioned on xda-developers.com work over here (GB)? And will they really allow me to connect wifi to my laptop, thus allowing me to use my XDA as a modem?
Sorry I'm so technically challenged.

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Are there any chinks of light in the 'Bluetooth tunnel'?
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No. Well, there's really small serial bluetooth adapters now, and someone just might stick one on the serial port. But then you'd still need drivers...
Is there any possibility that in the future the sd port could be modified to sd/io? Could an sd/io slot from another PDA be modified to fit in place of the sd or are there other reasons why this won't work?
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No clue, and the only ones to know are HTC, who haven't been articularly communicative about this device. SDIO slots are not a part you can just transplant. These are functions of chips or chipsets on the motherboard.
And finally, will the upgrades mentioned on xda-developers.com work over here (GB)? And will they really allow me to connect wifi to my laptop, thus allowing me to use my XDA as a modem?
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The upgrade allows you to use the XDA as a modem through a serial cable or using IRDA (Infrared). It will not allow you to do anything using WaveLAN. The term 'Wireless Modem' refers to the fact that GPRS and GSM are wireless, I guess...

Replies to my queries
Thanks for replying to my queries, it is very frustrating that such an aesthetically pleasing & ground-breaking piece of kit like the XDA should have so many hurdles which prevent it being used to it's full advantage.
Such is life! Keep up the improvements! Thanks again! 8)

Remember it was designed 4 years ago, before Bluetooth and SDIO. Even SD had to stretch to get into it!

samsung i700
Samung i700 is the solution for those trying to use
bluetooth on xda. The other one is to wait for the
new xda with pocket pc 2003 maybe early next year.

samsung i700
Does anyone know anything about the i700, what it costs, when it's available (the Netherlands) etc. etc.

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SDRW - SDIO

Just read some good news about SDIO. According to www.cewindows.net there is a rom upgrade for Ipaqs that make them SDIO compatible. http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/sdioupdates.htm Hopefully it is just a matter of time before a patch for the XDA is released as well. I also read that in windows ce.net there will be support for SDIO, so let's just hope it is possible to upgrade the XDA to .net.
bamse said:
Just read some good news about SDIO [...]
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Before everyone gets their hopes up: the SD port on the XDA appears hooked up to a custom HTC-built ASIC. Not saying upgrade is impossible, but if there is a future upgrade, it is likely to be very different from the iPaq upgrade.
Since HTC makes the iPAQ, is it not the same ASIC?
XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
bamse said:
Just read some good news about SDIO [...]
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Before everyone gets their hopes up: the SD port on the XDA appears hooked up to a custom HTC-built ASIC. Not saying upgrade is impossible, but if there is a future upgrade, it is likely to be very different from the iPaq upgrade.
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From what I read, it seems that the upgrade has little to do with the hardware providing the SD port as long as it supports the same basic api. Also, as HTC is making the Ipaq, it seems probable that the SD-chipset is not all that different between the two.
As far as I have read it the current change to allow SDIO is related to two things. First it seems mandatory to have a IRQ line connected to a GPIO line. If this hardware connection is not there someone suggested polling, but I doubt that is workable.
The second thing I've noticed so far all concrete examples were for the Xscale. There were also some indications this was a nessecary prerequisite.
So I'd say the chances for XDA are very slim.

Linux on Trinity

Who are interested to see Linux also on this device?
The process should be very similar to Hermes implementation, so we can follow their steps.
Interesting
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
kimusan said:
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
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answering myself: yes it is, which means that I am in! I would love to help with the investigation for getting linux on this device. Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
kimusan said:
Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
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Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
cr2 said:
Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this? As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
kimusan said:
What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this?
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http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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Do you have a link ?
cr2 said:
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
Do you have a link ?
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It is in one (or more) of the threads in the trinity forum here at xdadevelopers. I do not have the direct links here, but have seen them recently. it is most likely in oone of the "GPS or not GPS" threads.
I have now registered the HTC Trinity/P3600
Very
interesting
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Do you have a link ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285090
See first attachment, Mainboard.zip contains front and back pictures of Trinity's mainboard, with all chipsets.
Look here for the schemes:
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/
page 2 and 3.
How is the state of art in porting linux on this device?
And on Hermes? Does the kernel boot?
With wm6 do you have to hard reset every time you try to boot the kernel?
Maybe Pof can answer these questions.
Thanks
@renatostore: cr2 and Kevin2 are the guys working on it, come into #htc-linux at freenode irc network.
On hermes the kernel boots, and we can load a minimal initrd using haret. On trinity i haven't checked lastly.
You don't need to hard reset afer booting linux, that was only on WM2003
Hi
How about linux on trinity? i've been on the irc channel but didn't get any answer... a few months passed... i'm in hope!
I don't have high hope on that. Heard it's very difficult to debug stuff in Linux due to the lack of a hardware kb....
why do you want linux on this phone? you are not going to be able to cross-compile apps over and I don't see a useful app in linux that wm6 doesn't have already for a phone.
Hi...
Still interested...
Had someexperience with h36xx and h38xx/h39xx series HP/Compaq PDA's and familiar linux, and it would be very cool to have some of this running on the HTC hardware too...
Anyone already had a ROM cooked up with kernel/basic apps?
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
Thanks!
bkortleven said:
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
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Check the hermes wiki.
trinity is the hermes without keyboard, minor differences are unimportant
The future of Linux on PDAs is Andromeda. Don't expect this to be implemented on existing devices - Andromeda will be a means to deliver new devices to the market.
While you will most likely need a new phone for Andromeda, you will gain a complete platform with stylish and working applications, so you will be able to actually use the device right from the start.
Have fun!

RS232 Interface to control hardware?

Hello!
I have a piece hardware which can be controlled via a RS232 interface.
Now I want to replace my controller, a computer, through the Galaxy Tab. Is there a way to communicate from the Galaxy Tab to a RS232 interface with a normal Android App and the right connection hardware/cable?
I found the "FlexSerial" cable. Is this what I need?
i-mehl said:
Hello!
I have a piece hardware which can be controlled via a RS232 interface.
Now I want to replace my controller, a computer, through the Galaxy Tab. Is there a way to communicate from the Galaxy Tab to a RS232 interface with a normal Android App and the right connection hardware/cable?
I found the "FlexSerial" cable. Is this what I need?
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I think your challenge may be more driver/software related as opposed to being hardware/cable related. If you do get the cable sorted out, getting the Tab to communicate with the RS232 cables in the right way may be tricky. The flex serial cable is certainly a start but the function you are looking for is probably very specific to the device you want to control so finding the right Android app will not be easy. Just out of curiousity, what device is it?
There is an interface for controlling devices like robots, valves, timers, etc called andruino and it had a developer kit for programming and app creating. I think it will help your project.
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/06/adventures-in-android-adk-development-hardware.html
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
ADK is not an option because the controlled hardware can't be changed.
@mkhattab:
Samsung Galaxy Tab Wi-Fi (P1010)
I have planned to development the Android App myself. But I read there are no API functions for a serial interface on Android :/
i-mehl said:
ADK is not an option because the controlled hardware can't be changed.
@mkhattab:
Samsung Galaxy Tab Wi-Fi (P1010)
I have planned to development the Android App myself. But I read there are no API functions for a serial interface on Android :/
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Are there any APIs / functions for USB interface? I think that's more likely than RS232 and in that case you can use a converter cable provided you have the correct drivers
http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-RS232-Converter-Cable/dp/B00077DJIQ
Hm no, or maybe it works with a Bluetooth RFCOMM socket and a dongle like http://serialio.com/products/adaptors/BlueSnapStd.php at the hardware
i-mehl said:
Hello!
I have a piece hardware which can be controlled via a RS232 interface.
Now I want to replace my controller, a computer, through the Galaxy Tab. Is there a way to communicate from the Galaxy Tab to a RS232 interface with a normal Android App and the right connection hardware/cable?
I found the "FlexSerial" cable. Is this what I need?
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rangercaptain said:
There is an interface for controlling devices like robots, valves, timers, etc called andruino and it had a developer kit for programming and app creating. I think it will help your project.
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/06/adventures-in-android-adk-development-hardware.html
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
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Hi,
Like rangercaptain say, Arduino IMHO is a good choice, another link could be usefully:
http://www.arduino.cc/
https://market.android.com/search?q=arduino&so=1&c=apps
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-android-open-accessory-standard-arduino-based/
google arduino + android
Hope to help you
Bye
Idk
@ifkidk:
You should read the previous posts so you don't repeat other advice, or give advice that was already rejected, before you post. It makes xda a little smoother.
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@ifkidk:
You should read the previous posts so you don't repeat other advice, or give advice that was already rejected, before you post. It makes xda a little smoother.
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1st time i see you angry , chill out buddy. everything is acceptable so just let it pass
how are you btw ?
k0sh said:
1st time i see you angry , chill out buddy. everything is acceptable so just let it pass
how are you btw ?
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Amigo, if that is anger showing, what do you call all those crazy things you say sometimes?!
You are too funny my friend! Good to hear from you.
rangercaptain said:
Amigo, if that is anger showing, what do you call all those crazy things you say sometimes?!
You are too funny my friend! Good to hear from you.
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i felt like you said on the phone ( Gotcha ) .. sometimes i'm out of control because they force me to do so , i'm that kinda of person who give back
but come on , do you think all what have been happened before was funny though to remember specially if you see me now calm down , and my worst enemies are my friends now ... life goes on my friend you the one who should know that batter than me .. all the respect
rangercaptain said:
@ifkidk:
You should read the previous posts so you don't repeat other advice, or give advice that was already rejected, before you post. It makes xda a little smoother.
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Hi rangercaptain,
Sorry, is not intentionally! i forgot to quote your post, i only added another link for further info
Bye
Idk
P.S.
I have change the post
I know Amigo, it sometimes happens to me.
I don't know anything for a fact about this subject but I will ask a question. Do you think the tab would have to be capable of going into USB host mode? Not as an external device (pc) controlling the tab but the tab controlling the external device (rs232 via USB via 30 pin proprietary Samsung data and charging port).
The second link I gave above is instructions for that. I thought the same as you, but I guess it's not what the op wants.

Let's go root cars!

I was looking at the Chevy Volt the other day and it got me thinking - has anyone here got any experience working with automotive firmware?
The problem with the Volt is that it has no true EV mode - no matter what, you will use fuel sooner or later. There's no button you can push to make it stick with EV at all costs. Personally I wouldn't buy one unless I at least had that option. Obviously you have to worry about how to connect to it in the first place, and then there's how well locked down they've made it etc. It would seem possible given that it's been common practice to swap out the chips on cars to gain more performance for some time now.
So the question is, has anyone tried this sort of thing? How different would it be to hacking phones?
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I was looking at the Chevy Volt the other day and it got me thinking - has anyone here got any experience working with automotive firmware?
The problem with the Volt is that it has no true EV mode - no matter what, you will use fuel sooner or later. There's no button you can push to make it stick with EV at all costs. Personally I wouldn't buy one unless I at least had that option. Obviously you have to worry about how to connect to it in the first place, and then there's how well locked down they've made it etc. It would seem possible given that it's been common practice to swap out the chips on cars to gain more performance for some time now.
So the question is, has anyone tried this sort of thing? How different would it be to hacking phones?
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How different from phones ? I say it is LOT different its completly 2 different thing we need some experts to do any kind of modification ..
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If man can put cheese in a can, he can do anything.
How about you request a new forum for the Volt here and let us know the reply please?
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There are three questions you need to ask.
A. What OS is it running (if it's not an existing one there's a whole nother level of difficulty in place)?
B. What kind of security does Chevy have in place to prevent modifying the software (I would imagine it's probably locked down pretty tight)?
C. Is there anything to be gained by modifying the software?
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There are three questions you need to ask.
A. What OS is it running (if it's not an existing one there's a whole nother level of difficulty in place)?
B. What kind of security does Chevy have in place to prevent modifying the software (I would imagine it's probably locked down pretty tight)?
C. Is there anything to be gained by modifying the software?
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I don't see why they would even bother locking it down. Most people that own the vehicle probably won't even realize that it's an operating system.
Edit: And I'm guessing it's some form of Android.
veeman said:
I don't see why they would even bother locking it down. Most people that own the vehicle probably won't even realize that it's an operating system.
Edit: And I'm guessing it's some form of Android.
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Good point, I just would imagine they would use some sort of security to remove an incentive to steal the device (but I'm assuming it could be removed from the dash somehow).
I'VE JUST UNLOCKED MY VOLT. You use the little button with the open lock on the remote. Now its a matter of internal business!
This is my signature.
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If man can put cheese in a can, he can do anything.
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I could get a good look at a t-bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
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Exactly.
Sent from my coffee pot.
Or if you're feeling nostalgic for 2010
Toyota, moving forward...because we can't stop.
I forgot all about that insanity.
MissionImprobable said:
If man can put cheese in a can, he can do anything.
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Nonsense
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[Q] Storage comes up as Samsung MAG2GC am I hacked?

I have been having trouble for a long time with unusual stuff happening on my old Xperia Z2, my Acer laptop, other devices on my network, and now my new Z3 compact also and have a strong feeling my ex-partner is behind it. I went to four computer repair places, brought a new router and contacted a computer forensics company who said it would cost $3000 upwards to get to the bottom of before I pretty much lost hope of regaining my privacy. When I got my new Z3 I created new accounts (Gmail etc) with the exception of Facebook and I changed the email and password for that. When I factory reset my devices they don't seem to go back to the factory settings, this was especially evident on my laptop after having windows reinstalled the first time at a computer repair place and the second time myself from usb it still had the same desktop picture id downloaded as soon as I opened it. Factory reset my z3 earlier this evening and had been looking up USSD codes in the hope that that might succeed in properly resetting in (which it didn't) and came across this Vellamo app that assesses your device and gives you the stats and it came up saying my storage is Samsung, could this be at the bottom of it all? Help
Thought it might be helpful if I upload these too.
You might find that Sony uses Samsung storage chips in their devices.. I think most mobile manufacturers do..
I wouldn't find that too surprising to be honest and I doubt that it means you have been "hacked" as well..
Edit: Mine says the same, Samsung memory chip
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Oh man I thought I'd gotten to the bottom of it (at least on my phone). But cheers that's good to know thanks for that
munieskin said:
Oh man I thought I'd gotten to the bottom of it (at least on my phone). But cheers that's good to know thanks for that
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If you're having issues with technology, try giving tomshardware.com a try. Their forums are filled with knowledgeable people that could help you if you provide enough information (then again though, any Q/A tech forum requires you to describe your problem in detail).
Cool thanks for that I'll check it out
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Hate to revive old threads, but I have something you might be interested in; my storage isn't the same as yours. Here are the differences:
Manufacturer: Toshiba
Name: 016GE2
Size: 15.76GB
I do wonder if there are any performance differences between the two.
Also a question; is the storage used eMMC 5.0 or is it still a 4.xx model?

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