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I just bought an unlocked T-mobile pocket pc phone edition off of a person from up in the T-mobile area. I am currently with Cingular. I just input all the GPRS settings for Cingular and they work great.
I also have both models of the Digitraveler GPS from Radio Shack. They sold one for a laptop with a serial connection ,which is what I use with my Casio E-200. They also have model that comes with three cables one being for the Ipaq 3800. If you didn't know has the same connector as our XDAs. All you have to do is to unlock the connector housing with a small screw driver then unsoldered the wires and resoldered the three wires black GND to pin 5 on the XDA connector, Red TXD to pin 8 and Brown RXD to pin 10. I'm not at fault if you solder two pins together. Be very careful as 22 pins are in an area of an inch or so. Before you start up the Delorme Xmap software ,which is included with the GPS PDA version. You will need to go under the settings tab and uncheck the IR setting this will give you COM1 which is what the serial connection uses. When you connect the GPS with the software it should come up and say aquiring GPS. If not you may have solered to a wrong pin. This is a killer phone, PDA and GPS setup now. I will try to post some pics.
You could also solder two wires on for a charging circuit to the connector.
PICS of GPS
Dave
Yes that sound great I'm looking forward to see some pictures :lol:
P.s
I have Microsoft Pocket Street 2002 GSP feature can you recommend me a GPS unit to connect to my XDA :?:
Is the Digitraveler unit still available? I can't find it on their website... well, not in their online catalogue anyway. There's plenty of downloads, etc, for it
As I'm in Australia, its a long way to go just to drop in and see if there's any on the shop floor
Cheers,
PHB
uk gps £84 inc autoroute/pocket streets
http://www.mobtech.co.uk/ecbmob/item1286.htm
Hi XDA-rocks - is that the same unit rebadged? I suspect I don't actually need the s/w, and that the maps won't be of much use, given I'm in Australia... I can get local software for the Pocket PC for $50 AU [approx 15 UK pounds I think] and I have local maps already...
Also, newb question, do I pay VAT when ordering from outside of the UK???
Sorry to be a pain; any help appreciated!
Cheers,
PHB.
The link above is actully for an IPAQ (so you'd probably have to do some soldering).
The manufacturers site does mention XDA compatibility. Check out
http://www.royaltek.com
Sorry, but I don't know what the situation regarding VAT is.
That's cool - you've been a big help already!
Cheers,
PHB.
PHB said:
Hi XDA-rocks - is that the same unit rebadged? I suspect I don't actually need the s/w, and that the maps won't be of much use, given I'm in Australia... I can get local software for the Pocket PC for $50 AU [approx 15 UK pounds I think] and I have local maps already...
Also, newb question, do I pay VAT when ordering from outside of the UK???
Sorry to be a pain; any help appreciated!
Cheers,
PHB.
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Normally, you do not have to pay VAT (if the price does not include VAT).
But shipping charge may be high.
All good - I've approached the manufacturer directly to see what they offer [if anything] Failing that, I'll go retail.
Thanks for all the help guys,
Cheers,
PHB.
If you need shipping assistance, I'll be glad to be a middle man. I ship stuff to the UK all the time, and it is not expensive. You do not pay VAT but you do pay an import tax if the product is declared. I normally mark the customs for as "gift" which avoids the import tax.
Hey Dave, can you post more pics and maybe some more details about the soldering of the connectors?. I got my Xda, and I just got the Digitraveler, super cheap off ebay ($50!!). And I want to do this. Please help on how
I got it!, I succesfully followed Dave's instructions and now I have my Xda running Mapopolis with the Digitravel GPS. Is sooo cool!
I want to see If I connect the power suply, but the cable and the solder work came out really nice and neat. and I'm afraid to mess it up. I'll look into solutions, but so far the GPS works perfect, and cheapest solution!.
I will post a detailed tutorial with lots of pictures and diagrams on my website soon.
If someone needs me to help them out, or doesn't want to deal with the soldering and the hassle, let me know.
Question to the XDA-DEV gods. I'm a little confused. I see that the Xda car charger works on 6V according to this image and the Digitravel works also on 6V, according to the manual. Can I use just one car charger and splice the cables to each device?. Also, also I see in the diagram 6V I checked in the back of the phone and It says 5V. please help
RadioSHACK GPS
i took your advice and got me a DigiTraveler too!
Radio Shack #20-1601 $39
i rewired the cable as u discribed. THANKS DAVE!!!
it now works great with my T-Mobile PPC.
...is there a better program than the one that came with it tho?
i've seen somewhere, a program that have Voice prompts that
advice u as you're driving to turn right and left...
OH! by the way... you can also get a 2.5 to 3.5 audio jack converter
along with one of those CD to TAPE adaptors, and u can have all audio
play on the loud cas speakers! great for speaker fone option
According to some reviews, Mapopolis is the all around solution. Faster, cleaner and easier to use. It has voice prompts too. Destinator is too big and complicated to use, of course, I only have tried for a couple of hours, but I will continuing testing it. I've been looking to TomTom USA Maps (Florida), but I can't seem to find any source, if someone can direct me for a Florida Map, would be greatly appreciated it.
would somebody post a couple of these cheap digitravelers that radio shack sells? I live in uk
Radio Shack #20-1601 $39
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Is it on sale now, or is that the regular price now? I can't find that part number in the online catalog, anybody got a URL? Or is it only available in stores?
would somebody post a couple of these cheap digitravelers
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I ship stuff to Europe all the time and would be happy to assist. I don't know what it weighs, but shipping is not all that bad to the UK.
you can get them cheap off Ebay
What are you using for soldering setup?
:?: :?: :?:
Curious. What are you using for your soldering setup? I opened up the car charger connector end and the pins are soooooo small I can barely see them. What I'd like to do is solder the speaker pins to the tape converter so that I don't have to use the 2.5 - 3.5 connector (thus having to only connect one thing). I'd also be able to connect the gps to it too.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thx
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I got it from RadioShack, costed me $7.50, and it came with the solder iron, a soldering iron stand, so you don't burn up anything, heatsink clamp, a very handy soldering tool, and the solder. Is very cheap, and Is small snough to use it for this job. Is helpful to just move the other pins to the side in order to isolate the pin that you are soldering, after you are done with each, and the solder is hard, move to the side and continue to the next one. Of course, move them slighty and slowly, don't yank it.
oh yeeeahh!. Now I have POWER!. I just finished soldering the connectors to a Xda power supply and now I can connect the Xda with the Digitraveler and charge the phone at the same time!. I adapted a retractable sync'n'charge cable to it (I used one of the other cables included, I think the one that I used was the Palm connector, since I didn't want to mess up the original cable that I did, in case something goes wrong) and just removed the syncing cables and left the ones for charge. One thing though I think the diagrams for the charger in the Xda-dev page is wrong, I got it working with pins 16,17,18 for (-) and 20,21,22 for (+). In the page shows 15,17,18 for (-) and 19,21,22. I got my conclusion dissasembling a car charger and examining the pins. Since this is a USB charger, it charges from the computer, and also, since I have the adapter to charge it for the car. It works perfect so far, I get the light on when I connect and the message that is charging!. I'll test drive it tomorrow with the GPS. Since the GPS accepts a regular a regular charger (available at RadioShack), I just connect everything with a Y-cable and that's it. A super cheap GPS system with full power! for less than $60 bucks!.
I'll post pictures and a turorial how to do it (including the charging connector) in my website soon
Morning XDA world,
just thought I would report on the official XDA2 car kit sold by Tmobile in Germany.
Picked it up last week for 175 Euro's while I was over there.
Fitted it this weekend and it fantastic. As well as the usual connection of power/aerial/microphone, there is also two speaker outputs that can drive external units. A typical carphone speaker came with it so I have connected that and an exisitng one I had in the car.
I can now get my MP3 and TomTom voice commands in Stereo. The mini amp that is in the car kit is only about 12w but I have had to turn the volume down to 25% on the XDA otherwise it is too loud for normal driving. There is also a mute connection for the radio if it is required.
One question I do have, does any one know what would happen if I connect the speaker outputs directly to the speaker outputs of the car radio. Would I need a diode to prevent the signal from both units damaging the other, or is there another way. I dont want to use an FM unit or mix it in with the CD multi input connection.
thanks in advance.
i ordered mine a few days ago, i hope i have it today for 176 euro
and 6 euro shipping..
here are fotos of the original carkit
http://www.pbase.com/paiko/ppc3
(not mine)
thanks to paiko
Thanks for the pics, I'm looking for a XDA2 car mount and I have to say that this one is the best i've seen so far
SD card slot is blok? have you found that unpractical or you don't change SD cards to often?
anyone know where to source one of these (I am in the UK) ?
you can order it in germany for 176 euro
www.passiontec.de
Hi
Looks very simular to the one that O2 are going to sell in the Q2 04
http://www.xda-2.co.uk/accessories/peripherals.html
I have just ordered this one to use with my soon to arrive TomTom 3, its got extra wire that are not need with blue tooth but would pesume that it does not mater
http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx
steve
Looking for a Car Kit with a Cradle for the Siemens SX56.
I have seen most of the posts for the car kits and they look awesome. They blow away anything else I have found on the net or on EBAY by any means. Now my question is where can I get this same type of car kit for my Siemens SX56 in the USA, ideally Illinois. It seems that everyone that has an awesome car kit is in another country. Any help is appreciated.
Ideally the car kit would have a drop in fitting for the PDA. It should allow a clean fitted installation, which wouldn’t show any wiring and also allow me to integrate my PDA through my car speakers. It should have an external microphone that I can add in a clean fashion so I can use it to make calls and received them. Ideally the same kit like the car kits for standard cell phones only for a Siemens SX56 PDA.
You help is greatly appreciated!
akira said:
you can order it in germany for 176 euro
www.passiontec.de
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Sorry I cannot read German and I couldn't find it. Do you have a direct link to the actual page for the unit?
Ed
This looks really interesting, but I'm afraid my German is not too good. I guess that those of you who've bought one of these can understand the language better than me - so could someone please explain the difference between these:
Car BasicSet für MDA II [€170]
CarKit II [€200] (this appears to be the one in the photos above)
Navigate StarterSet für MDA II [€170]
NaviGate Car Kit Pro MDA II [€250]
I guess that the NaviGate kits include T-Mobile's (proprietary?) navigation solution, but it is interesting that the CarKit II also appears to include a connection for NaviGate. I presume, therefore, that all of the above kits present some sort of interface that any GPS receiver could connect to - but it would be greatly appreciated if someone could confirm what the interface is (RS232, PS/2, etc.)? I suppose detailed photos or installation guides would be helpful here.
Basically, I would like a cradle for my XDA2 that:
- outputs all audio through the car's speakers, muting the radio;
- provides for an external antenna; and
- connects to a (wired) GPS receiver suitable for use with TomTom3.
Maybe I'm too demanding! Is this asking for the world on a plate? I would've thought it was a fairly standard set of requirements... :?
Okay, so maybe I'm not being so demanding after all... according to http://www.my-xda.com/carkit.html :
"the Xda II carkit supports direct connection of a GPS unit - such as that provide [sic] by TomTom Navigator" (as far as I can tell, this implies that there is an RJ45 connector carrying both data and power; for the real techies, does anyone know whether the power is at 5V or 12V?)
I imagine that the kit they're referring to is identical to the T-Mobile CarKit II, which seems to be what you guys bought from Germany - in which case, is there really a spare RJ45 socket lying around for a GPS receiver? I can't get anyone at O2 to understand what I'm talking about (they don't even seem to be aware that such a car kit exists).
Exciting stuff. :?
But as far as the O2 link you provided goes it still only has an XDA kit for sale not yet an XDA II kit correct?
Ed
ednap said:
But as far as the O2 link you provided goes it still only has an XDA kit for sale not yet an XDA II kit correct?
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Well, the third paragraph says: "These carkit's are especially designed to fit Xda and Xda II respectively", which implies a separate kit is available for the XDA II - but there's no product code, price, or any mention of it in the O2 Shop.
nickety said:
a separate kit is available for the XDA II - but there's no product code, price, or any mention of it in the O2 Shop.
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I've just spoken to O2 - they're expecting it to be available from about 2-3 weeks' time, and it will be priced at £189. I've just pre-ordered one over the telephone (0800 389 4516).
Expansys like Carkit
Hi all,
just to tell you all it will be available at the end of May (I hope) here in Portugal a complete Carkit for the XDA2 (Carkit Pro) just like the one at expansys.com for around 155€ directly from the national distributor.
I'll tell you more as soon as i get more info on this.
Expensive from O2
I just spoke to the people in the two O2 shops in nottingham and both of them told me that the XDA II Car kit is available, but they have to order it in. They said the cost is £150 plus £99 fitting charge, and they'll only let you have one if they can fit it. Has anyone else found this or is it just O2 Nottingham being greedy?
The O2 accessories phone line told me that the kit required fitting, but that I'd have to arrange that myself.
Oh
OK. Seems like O2. hey're a bit poo for information here in Notts.
Has anyone, looked into making a cable to connect the XDA/XDA II to a car stereo? I've not got a stereo at the moment to test with but I assume that they have a standard layout of pins on the ack or something for phone inputs?
Anyone who knows a fair bit about car stereos and fitting phones to them can you leave me some extra info?
Also, with regards to the XDA I and II, do they have any reason why the same cable wouldn't want to be used for the two different phones? I've got a I and am thinking of getting a II but don't want to faff about with a cable for one and then find it's useless when I upgrade.
Will
That's the way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4348&highlight=connectors
Bit of searching and I found this. Any extra info still welcome.
Hello again all,
Pegasus said:
One question I do have, does any one know what would happen if I connect the speaker outputs directly to the speaker outputs of the car radio. Would I need a diode to prevent the signal from both units damaging the other, or is there another way. I dont want to use an FM unit or mix it in with the CD multi input connection.
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I am by no means an audio expert, but have had a little Google around since this is exactly what I would like to do myself.
I found a reply to someone else's similar question about connecting two different audio sources/amps in their bedroom to the same speakers. It seems that it's not a good idea.
I then found an automatic selector switch which runs on 12VDC. I think that you can connect your radio speaker outputs to the "AMP A" input and the Xda II carkit to "AMP B", thereby giving priority to the Xda II whenever it's trying to do something. Chop the mains plug off and you should be able to hook it up to the car's switched/accessory power supply.
I hope that helps.
Whilst I'm posting in this thread (again :wink, can someone please confirm what this carkit provides for connecting to GPS receivers? This photo that akira posted is very helpful, but it doesn't show clearly enough what type of connector #13 is... hopefully it's an RJ11 that will directly work with the TomTom wired receiver - can anyone confirm? If not, is there any chance of an exact description, or close-up photo with pinouts (perhaps this is in the accompanying documentation)?
Thanks!
The connection on the Car kit Akira mentioned is RJ11 for the GPS reciever. Unfortunately my GPS reciever is PS2.
I looking for an cable adapter from PS2 to RJ11. Any one can help?
Wondering if any third party manufacturer out there is thinking of coming up with a better keyboard for the advantage. Something that is attached to a zippered leather case that can fit the Advantage inside and the keyboard opens up just like the foldable keyboards out there. What do all you think?
keyboard
Yes i think HTC or an off brand company will come out with one soon.Seeing how the device is still fresh on the market and HTC takes into consideration that they have produced a great/superb device.I can bet all my pennies that within the next couple of months that there will be some nifty keyboards(even some with lighting on the keyboards)emerging.Only a matter of time!
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Yes i think HTC or an off brand company will come out with one soon.Seeing how the device is still fresh on the market and HTC takes into consideration that they have produced a great/superb device.I can bet all my pennies that within the next couple of months that there will be some nifty keyboards(even some with lighting on the keyboards)emerging.Only a matter of time!
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actually, my internal contact in HTC told me there won't be any second keyboard other then the original one. They are not in the process or making one and there is no sign on making one in the future too. We can only hope third party keyboard will comes up soon
There will be several off brand keyboards made for this device.I as well have some friends that work for HTC that says it might be a posibility but not in the near future.As far as off brand comapanies(3rd party)There will be several offering/selling all sorts of accessories for this device.Example:JASJAR-when it first arose,there was only the standard bulky casing.A few months later new cases & bigger more powerful batteries for the device,then docking stations......get my drift.There will be a company that will be emerging with a keyboard for this device...Mark my word for saying so.Give it 3-4 months max
I also heard that there will be many companies creating accessories for Athena....including better Keyboard, Cases and Car mounting kits etc.....
We just need to wait....
I asked HTC for some help in creating a keyboard, eg, pinout and protocol.
I never even received a reply to my post.
If somebody with contacts in HTC could help me get this info I would love to try.
My original plan was to turn a normal PC keyboard into a keyboard dock where the Athena stuck onto the full PC keyboard using its normal bottom connector not a 4in1 cable etc.
Hopefully there will be options available in the near future. I might consider the Athena if a replacement keyboard with seperate numeric keys comes out.
At the minute Universal is still a better device. Pity the Athena couldn't use a layout similar to the Universal.
Anyway is that possible to lock the keyboard to type numbers. Bit diffucult if we must push that blue dot every time we want to type numbers.
I might be visiting singapore sometime soon.
I am looking for the 4 in 1 cable to be used with my dopod u1000.
Anyone knows the best place in singapore where i can have the best chance of finding a used 4 in 1 cable for u1000?
I really love the dopod u1000 and i use it together with my k800 mobile.
I am quite satisfied using the pocket pc functions without the phone function at the moment. The big screen is simply excellent for ebook reading, surfing the net and writing notes or reflections.
I also realized that with the proper softwares, u1000 can become an even a better phone than my normal sony ericsson k800.
It can be used to automatically send sms replies to callers when i am busy. (with k800, i can't automatically send sms replies to callers)
It can be used to voice dial phone numbers through bluetooth headset (with k800, i cannot dial phone numbers. I can only create voice tags for an existing contact and dial that contact.)
Although i love the u1000 very much, i am having a hard time to let go of my old Dell axim x51v. The Axim was my favourite pocket pc for a long time and the u1000 is the only worthy replacement of my axim 51v.
Ask the guys in www.ppcsg.com. They should be able to tell you where to go. The most popular place has been the Funan centre and Sim Lim Square, but that may be only for the device. Not sure about the cable itself.
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Thanks eaglesteve, I will check with these 2 places. By the way, i am a great fan of everything you have written about the u1000. I have learned a lot by reading your reviews and i find it easy to agree with many things you said. Thanks for sharing your experiences about pocket pcs.
With the Axim, i was rather adventurous with unofficial roms. One of the best rom for the axim was in fact created by a russian programmer that goes by the name, "Football." His rom made wonders out of the axim.
I am sure there are also great unofficial roms for the u1000. Although i do not have the courage yet to try any yet but i am rather interested with your experiences and reviews on the few unofficial roms available. Which rom are you using or have used by the way?
no 4 in 1 cable in funan, singapore
Came back from singapore. walked the whole of funan it mall. a few shops carry the u1000 but no one has the 4 in 1 cable in their stocks. I may be wrong but i felt that the retailers there were not much in touch about what pocket pc lovers need. I am not just talking about the u1000 but other range of pocket pcs as well. maybe they need to read up articles on forums like this one a bit.
Why not just bite the bullet and order it from Expansys.
I ordered it on a Monday and had it Tuesday am.
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Yes, i was thinking of doing just that. i have also found some external chargers that might work with my dopod u1000.
hey, i noticed that you too like me have moved from the Dell axim x51v to the advantage htc. It seems that those who appreciate the Axim will also most likely be able to appreciate the Advantage (dopod u1000).
I am supposed to sell my axim to earn back some money. at least that was what i told my wife i would do when i bought my u1000. But until now i am kind of reluctant to do that. The axim was such a fabulous device especially with the unofficial wm6.1 rom update from a russian developer "football."
TV out from 4 in 1 lead
Hi all,
While on the subject of 4 in 1 leads, does anyone know if any of the outputs will play sound as well as video from these leads. I got video only working off the yellow av plug. not tried the others yet
Jay
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Hi all,
While on the subject of 4 in 1 leads, does anyone know if any of the outputs will play sound as well as video from these leads. I got video only working off the yellow av plug. not tried the others yet
Jay
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as far as i know, it is meant for shwing slide presentations so you get only the pictures. If you want the sound, you will have to get a cable that connects to the ear phone socket at the side of the Advantage (u1000).
The Axim i had works this way.
Maybe a silly question but are there any alternatives to the 4 in 1 cable... I just want a simple direct htc to usb cable.
Thanks
Hi there cphilip,I too have a Axim50V around and am using it as a multi-dictionary (English,Chinese,French,German)may I know where I can get the up
grade rom "football"would like to give it a try on rom up-grading
tks
nor11wan said:
Hi there cphilip,I too have a Axim50V around and am using it as a multi-dictionary (English,Chinese,French,German)may I know where I can get the up
grade rom "football"would like to give it a try on rom up-grading
tks
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Hi nor11wan,
Yes, dell axm is really a great pocketpc. I have been using football, lenny L11 and now Makuu A09 VOIP gold found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439586
Unfortunately, I have not been following up on axim 50. I think it is possible that football might have produced something for the dell axim 50. Hope you can find it.
Good news is I am now a proud G1 owner! Bad news is its busted . Everything on the phone appears to be in working order and I've loaded cyanogen's latest rom (which I believe includes the most up to date radio) but I still get no service and when I try to search for networks it responds back with an error. When I cracked it open I found that the UMTS Coax cable was severed. Being the reckless and stupid type I decided that this should be a quick fix and grabbed my soldering iron. A quick solder later and I still have no service and then realized I have no clue if this type of cable can be repaired with such a quick hack. Anyone care to chime in with suggestions or personal experience?
Thanks!
Nobody has an opinion? Not even a friendly hello?
well i can give you a friendly hello
what prompted you to open up the phone? was it a used phone or did you expect some damage inside? Can you give more details on the phones use prior to this?
I have the long and short coax cables, as well as the UTMS and GPS modules that attach to them if you are looking to replace. PM for details. The long cable is a pretty popular piece to be pinched or cut and they are not so easy to find.
Sorry for digging this back up. Just wanted to say thanks to the individuals who offered help but I opted to return the device since it was originally listed as in working condition and didn't want to deal with the chance that it was more than a cable issue.
Have a good day everyone.
almost a year later, but was wondering if anyone knows where i can get the 80mm UMTS coax cable.
i found this site carries them, but it's in Chinese and google translate isn't helping any.
http : // item . taobao .com/item.htm?id=2973124131
thanks