is that true that recent Nokia phones use MMC cards .. - Off-topic

and not SD ??? if that is true I am curious why ??
regards,
monika

Yep all new phones from Nokia especially ones with Symbian OS have a standard 32MB MMC card such as the new N-Gage and the 6600.
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ARZLEB said:
Yep all new phones from Nokia especially ones with Symbian OS have a standard 32MB MMC card such as the new N-Gage and the 6600.
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and why is that pls ??? I mean, why they use MMC and not SD format that is believed to be newer one ...
monika

1: because nokia are crap
2: because they are loosing their market as sony and samsung are taking over
3: because they have stupid designed phones
4: because mmc is smaller by bout 1mm
5: i dunno really but these are my answers
oh and..
6: because nokia will never have a symbian phone that doesnt crash every hour lol

heheh, thank you very much ...
for the answer, rest seems to be self-explanatory
regards, monika

most likely because they dont need the features that SD ofer over a mmc
and i'm not speaking about size or IO support but about
the secure digital part which is crypting support
messed a bit around with a nokia 3300 it also have a mmc card and cant use sd
also the mmc card have to be put in under the batt so you have to pretty much disasm the phone to change mmc card
most likely mmc cards cost a bit less to produce then sd cards or used to and thats the reason why nokia dont use them apart from the no need for cryptographic
more about sd and mmc
http://www.flashcards.co.nz/knowlege-base/mmc-card-vs-sd-card.html

thank you very mucha for an answer and very informative link
appreciate that
regards, monika

monika69 said:
thank you very mucha for an answer and very informative link
appreciate that
regards, monika
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MMC is faster than SD cards, the read/ write speed differs.

Holy hell... way to bring up an old topic. How did you come across this?

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Help : 8/16 GB Diamond .. WM7??

1.Does diamond support Windows mobile 7 ?
2.Do U Think htc will release 8/16 GB Diamond?
what a random question. thres no evicence for either, but i doubt the storage upgrade. theyve done that with the advantage a year on, and everyone thinks its a waste of money.
but wm7, if its not officail, id guess the cooks will port it
Rory
I wouldn't rule out the storage upgrade. If HTC want the Touch Diamond to compete with the iPhone, they will have to do storage upgrades. Also, because I'm buying it, you know a better version is going to be released - it's my bad luck. (My Touch is a good example).
This may be a silly question but has anyone actually opened up their Diamond to see if it is possible to increase the Storage Memory? eg could it be possible to add/swap out the 4GB for more?
@
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
im surprised...only one S at the end of Hastas? What does that even mean =\?
I demand more SSSS's!
Also upgrade your rom =(
Also...Ive been wondering the WM7 thing too...who knows =\?
billybobjones said:
im surprised...only one S at the end of Hastas? What does that even mean =\?
I demand more SSSS's!
Also upgrade your rom =(
Also...Ive been wondering the WM7 thing too...who knows =\?
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Ehehehehehe
The "S" are proportional to how happy I am...less "S" means "less happy"
I also have upgraded my ROM, only the signature isn't actualized
Regarding WM7...only with the help of a crystal ball...
HastaSSSS
i know...i need a crystal ball...this magic 8 ball isnt working =(
What does "Hastas" mean =P?
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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lol so true, this forum need some moderators badly.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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Well, bring out some usefull stuff then instead of crying about these kind of topics.
billybobjones said:
i know...i need a crystal ball...this magic 8 ball isnt working =(
What does "Hastas" mean =P?
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Hasta = Bye
Hastas = "Byes"
Yzord said:
Well, bring out some usefull stuff then instead of crying about these kind of topics.
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If you make a search on this forum (not only in Diamond section), you would see, that I've done a big share of contributions, namely on the Trinity ...
So, next time, instead of bragging, make a search first, and don't feed these non-sense threads...
HastaSSSS
There is evidence for WM7, just knowing M$, whatever we know now will be completely different from what is released, and it'll be released two years late...
I suspect HTC will release newer versions with more storage, but there is no evidence for that ATM.
isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
s1rl4ncel0t said:
If you make a search on this forum (not only in Diamond section), you would see, that I've done a big share of contributions, namely on the Trinity ...
So, next time, instead of bragging, make a search first, and don't feed these non-sense threads...
HastaSSSS
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I am sorry? You are crying about these topics while you feed these topics by yourself? Just point the finger to yourself next time.
Diamond Hardware Modding
deaddavey1 said:
isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
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finally a decent response to my question. Now who has taken a look under the hood of their Diamond to see for eaxmple where on the board the 4GB memory chip is and how accessible it is. Is there any space under the cover to connect up another memory card...
The Touch Pro is too big and I don't need a keyboard. The only thing stopping me from getting a Diamond right now is the 4GB memory...
deaddavey1 said:
isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
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SDHC only supports up to 32gb... they'll come out with a new standard for 64gb chips I bet.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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its all noobs wanting to learn...bless them

Is my stock SD card the problem?

I've verified that my swapfile is in use. It is set to 32mb right now. I'm using the stock card. When I use alot of apps I'm still seeing the htc screen sometimes. I just ordered a ultimate class 6 133x 20mb/s card. Will this help the problem? And what are your thoughts on pushing it to slightly higher than 32mb? Even with a blazing fast sd card??
darkphoenix2012 said:
I've verified that my swapfile is in use. It is set to 32mb right now. I'm using the stock card. When I use alot of apps I'm still seeing the htc screen sometimes. I just ordered a ultimate class 6 133x 20mb/s card. Will this help the problem? And what are your thoughts on pushing it to slightly higher than 32mb? Even with a blazing fast sd card??
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Yes, your stock SD card will be a bottleneck in using swapper and Apps2SD for that matter. But, you really should partition it w/ 3 partitions (FAT32, ext2/3, linux-swap, in that order). The linux-swap partition works worlds better than the swapper. 32MB is optimal, any higher will not speed it up, more likely it will make it slower. Set up those 3 partitions, and flash the new JACHero2.7.3 and you'll amazed at the difference. There's a new swap-type thing going on w/ compcache, but that hasn't been incorporated into the builds yet, so just stick with linux-swap for now.
If you wanna know how to set up the 3 partitions, follow the instructions from the JACHero2.7.3 thread in the development thread. Good luck
You sure its compatible with the g1? 20mb/s? Wow. You won't have anything to worry about if its that fast....Never heard of a micro sdhc card that quick lol. Mind shooting a link on your OP? Thanks
alritewhadeva said:
You sure its compatible with the g1? 20mb/s? Wow. You won't have anything to worry about if its that fast....Never heard of a micro sdhc card that quick lol. Mind shooting a link on your OP? Thanks
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Killer SD card on its way to my house omg i can't wait!!

Possible to dual boot Phoenix 2 and valkyrie firestorm 6

Like the title says, is it possible to dual boot Phoenix 2 and valkyrie firestorm 6. For example, a computer can dual boot two OS's, in which during boot-up, you can pick the OS (this case ROM) in the bios (or in this case the RUU, I don't know).
I haven't heard this in any threads/ROM threads, but I researched through google and found that you can format and partition a MicroSD Card into two FAT32 partitions (I'm not sure though), enabling two ROMs to coexist. I would not know how this would work though, because there is no 'bios' to choose eirther ROM at startup.
I'm kind of doubting dual boot options on the xperia x1, but I need some kind of clarification; it would be great to dual boot these two ROM's, but I can not find a official way how to.
I know this is a little early to ask, but if this thread gets popular, can some developer cook up something to enable this option?
No, this is not possible.
Just no? There must be a good reason why; could you go into some general explaining, like why it can't be done? No offense to any developers, but is it really that hard to make something that can enable this?
Yes, this is not possible.
I as well would like to know the reason
Oh come on, give us one good reason why it can't be done.
eurosport360 said:
Oh come one, give us one good reason why it can't be done.
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1)this is not a computer
2)you can't just place two different roms on a memory card and flash!
3)there just isn't enough space on the xperia!, its not a hard drive we can change!
and 4) we don't have a "dualbooting" SPL/bootloader
theres your (kind of obvious) reason(S)
Jonny4911 said:
1)this is not a computer
2)you can't just place two different roms on a memory card and flash!
3)there just isn't enough space on the xperia!, its not a hard drive we can change!
and 4) we don't have a "dualbooting" SPL/bootloader
theres your (kind of obvious) reason(S)
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oh 4) running a rom of a memory card is just stupid, it would be god awfully slow
5) no bootloader supports loading off a SD card
6) android barely runs off a SD anyway, what do u expect from windows mobile?
Good answer, that's what I wanted to hear. I hope in 10 years or so SD cards can develop with better access speed, better size, bla bla bla so this is possible.
Thanks
eurosport360 said:
Good answer, that's what I wanted to hear. I hope in 10 years or so SD cards can develop with better access speed, better size, bla bla bla so this is possible.
Thanks
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In 10 years (if the planet will still be here) you will not recognize much difference between a mobile and a computer.. hoping for faster memory cards is silly they are getting faster and faster over a night no need to waut years for that
uristic said:
In 10 years (if the planet will still be here) you will not recognize much difference between a mobile and a computer.. hoping for faster memory cards is silly they are getting faster and faster over a night no need to waut years for that
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I mean like to the extreme though, like 50 gigs per second or something. But you are right though, the rate its evolving, I don't know what its going to be like.
Dude.. from all the reasons Jonny4911 mentioned why it can't be done, you only picked up "too slow to work from SD"? (also how would you flash to the SD in the first place and be able to boot up from the SD...) any of the other 4-5 reasons is one reason enough, it can't be done!..
noONExda said:
Dude.. from all the reasons Jonny4911 mentioned why it can't be done, you only picked up "too slow to work from SD"? any of the other 4-5 reasons is one reason enough, it can't be done!..
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I'm just joking around, of course I get the reasons! They make sense!

[Q] Which lag fix uses the EXTERNAL SD card?

[Q] Which lag fix uses the EXTERNAL SD card?
with so many choices for lag fixes
i kinda lost track which project was the one that was doing the symlink and copying data to the EXTERNAL SD card.
External SD cards can easily be replaced if dead
Internal SD card is a pain in the back when it dies
at the same time this is a perfect scenario for SD cards performance test for Class 2, Class 4, Class 6+ speed tests
Class 8 and Class 10 are not widely available yet for microSD format.
if some one remember the Dev topic please link it
thanks
no body is using this lag fix?
AllGamer said:
no body is using this lag fix?
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Can't seem to recall which one that is but here's a bump for ya.
Must have been a while ago huh....
why is this stickied lol
Adevem said:
why is this stickied lol
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not anymore, seems like no one cares that the lag fixes writes to the internal SD instead of the external SD
I remember using it before. it's called mimocan or something. went through a lot of trouble to format my card into ext4.
There was something on modacco about it I recall... maybe Paul did it
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lgkahn said:
There was something on modacco about it I recall... maybe Paul did it
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yeah that! paul madacco!
I can't recall the name either but in the last 2 months we've moved on from external fixes as it was annoying to create the external partition, Also speed wise it wasn't a good fix.
There is the old mimocan lag fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
and also this new attempt using JFS FS on the external card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=812836
Modaco lag-fix was using the oneNAND fast memory. But it is internal and also is "limited" in size. ~130MB available only.
thanks i am using the internal modacco fix i guess. no problems with it.. but again limited in size although i have about 100 apps installed and still have 78 meg free. so probably could go over 200 as long as you dont have huge apps like certain games..
it seems like it is a lot less hard on the internal sd.. and maybe that is why it makes more sense to use this or one that does use the external sd for the i9000m specificially which is touchy with the internal sd card.
that's exactly my goal
since it's a known issue, it'll be better off playing with External SD, as they can be easily replaced if dead
you can also keep upgrading to newer faster models of SD cards
lgkahn said:
thanks i am using the internal modacco fix i guess. no problems with it.. but again limited in size although i have about 100 apps installed and still have 78 meg free. so probably could go over 200 as long as you dont have huge apps like certain games..
it seems like it is a lot less hard on the internal sd.. and maybe that is why it makes more sense to use this or one that does use the external sd for the i9000m specificially which is touchy with the internal sd card.
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SD UHS-1

Hi!!
I'm new in android. I need to know if this type of micro SD can be used in my Samsung Galaxy Ace.
I don't need more than 8gb or perhaps 16gb, but Sandisk SD XC1 or SC HC1...that works with UHS-1 technology have read/write speeds that look awesome...
There are some models of Sandisk, that works at differents speeds, but all of them (SD XC1) works really faster...
That type of SD with UHS-1 technology....works on our Galaxy Ace? or we have hardware limitation to use that kind of technology?
Sorry if my english is bad...and thank you for your answers.
Martin
i use sandisk 16gb class 4 no problem its super fast.
mor_1228 said:
i use sandisk 16gb class 4 no problem its super fast.
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Ok, if i go for one tipical SD i will get one class 10...
But this Sandisk UHS-1 mode XC-1 are new technology that works better and faster than a class 10...
The only problem could be with our Ace hardware that cannot work with this new technology.....thats what i don't now....and thats why i'm asking for help with this topic...
Perhaps someone has tryed these new type of SD, and can help me to decide what to buy...
Sorry again for my poor english....
Martin
matu31 said:
Ok, if i go for one tipical SD i will get one class 10...
But this Sandisk UHS-1 mode XC-1 are new technology that works better and faster than a class 10...
The only problem could be with our Ace hardware that cannot work with this new technology.....thats what i don't now....and thats why i'm asking for help with this topic...
Perhaps someone has tryed these new type of SD, and can help me to decide what to buy...
Sorry again for my poor english....
Martin
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Won't work! Sorry!
The ace is REALLY old now, so it is highly unlikely it will work.
Class 4 cards work just as well as class 10. We don't really have the hardware to take advantage of cards with classes higher than 6.
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Ok, thank you so much for your help....
I will get one of class 6 or 10 of the tipical SD's so....
Thanks again.
Martin.
matu31 said:
Ok, thank you so much for your help....
I will get one of class 6 or 10 of the tipical SD's so....
Thanks again.
Martin.
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Next time, if you have a question like this, can you please post it in the Accessories forum.
Thanks
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