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Connecting XDA to Nokia CARKIT

HI!
Andrew has connected his XDA to the Carkkit (4Handy 3330).
Now I have the Carkkit (4 5110,6110,6210,7110) and the central module
is another than the one from Andrew. Is is the HFU-2.
Mic +, Ear + and Ground is no Problem. But I don't know to find the
Mic- (the pin to enable the car Kit).
It goes not online when no Nokia is connected... If somebody knows which Port to use???
An techmanual at : http://www.gsmzone.co.uk/Manuals/Nokia/Nokia_5110_Service_Manual/hfu2a3.pdf
it must be at x100 (connector)???
Thanx 4 helping!
Stevie

Nobody,
there who has enougth knowlegment
about this electric thema to
look and help me :?: :?: :?:
case the problem is only mic(-) or the port to turn the Carkit on...
Thanx
Stevie :roll:

Nokia HFU-2 to XDA
Hello,
I have done some investigation about connecting the xda to the hfu-2 using the link above. Its going to be a lot more difficult that connecting it to a 3330 kit (which is analogue, see www.farrella.com).
The 6210 etc gives its phone state through the MBUS lead. This information is in DIGITAL MODE!!, so an analogue voltage signal WILL NOT DO.
I connected just GND and MBUS of the phone to the cradle and the radio mute worked. I also measured the voltage of MBUS to GND in the cradle and its always 2.8V, there was no change in this voltage when on or off 'hook'. There might be another way via the headset/data connector. I will investigate this further.
Andrew Farrell 8)

Connecting 2 Nokia Car Kit
Hey Andrew!
Thanx for your work. I will hopefully wait, if U find another way...
Stevie

Connecting 2 Nokia Car Kit
Hi !
May be there is a possible way to enable the hfu always online?
I think there's no problem... 4 the hfu and the xda...
Stevie

Supergrobie this is 4 u!
Here are the pin outs of the HFU-2 Kit
15 Pin Connector (Pin 1 nearest SPK)
1 NC
2 XMIC
3 SGND
4 XEAR
5+6 LOGIC_GND
7 CHARGE_CTRL
8+9 V_IN
10 MBUS
11 LOGIC_GND
12 VB
13 FBUS_RX
14 FBUS_TX
15 NC
10 Pin connector (pin 1 is nearest power input connector)
1 NC
2 +10V
3 FBUS_RX
4 MBUS
5 H/S_HOOK
6 FBUS_TX
7 GND
8 H/S_MIC
9 H/S_EAR
I'd say that using pins 5/7/8/9 that the XDA MIGHT be able to be connected to this 10 PIN connector (usually not used as its for a data/head-set).
Pin 5 could hold the key OR by using a schmitt trigger & 555 timer to hold for say 3 secs
I found an site that calculates the resistor values for a schmitt trigger:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/schmitt.html
and for a 555 timer:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/555/555.html
So a Radio mute can be achived by combining these circuits together.
Andrew

Thanx!!!
But I'm not sure to understand what to do now.
I'm not an electro-specialist...
I can try It but I don't think that I can build it without any plan...
Thanx
Stevie

Pin layout GPS to XDA cable needed

L.S.
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a Haicon GPS203e to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA connector and can figure out the RX TX GND and V+ myself.
What i am looking for is special connections for DCD, CTS, RTS and DTR. Do I need to connect them to e.g. eachother or gound to activate transmission??
Greetz Francois

FVH said:
L.S.
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a Haicon GPS203e to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA connector and can figure out the RX TX GND and V+ myself.
What i am looking for is special connections for DCD, CTS, RTS and DTR. Do I need to connect them to e.g. eachother or gound to activate transmission??
Greetz Francois
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I do not know about the Haicom but you should not need to connect these.
Most GPS transmit constant NMEA signal while it is turned on (power on and with satellite lock). The biggest problem for you is how to power the GPS.

Thanks for your reply,
Power should not be an issue, i will connect to the XDA carkit which has a regulated supply for the XDA that should work for the GPS.
What I have seen in the past is that some of the additional RS-232 control lines have to be connected either to each other or ground to activate communication. I am wondering if somebody has a layout of the XDA cable for Haicom (three-way cable : lighterplug/gps/xda)
Francois

You do NOT need to connect or short any of the other lines to make this work. I've done the same with a Pharos GPS and custom car kit, and only connected the data and ground lines.

Tom Tom and Haicon GPS need extra line!
Today I tried to hook up the GPS to the XDA carkit as suggested (only GND TX and RX) but Tom Tom will generate an error saying it cannot connect to com1:
I noticed a difference in behaviour when using the orginal cable: when connecting the XDA it opens active sync immediatly.
Did some reverse engineering and found you need to connect the DCD to +5 volts. After that it works as designed.
Got the XDA carkit running with a Haicon GPS!
Francois

Newbie help
i would like to use my GPS Heicom 203 that i have purchaased for iPAQ 3870, can you help me with the connections to avoid damages in my XDA ? I am a newbie of this kind of works, so i wouldn't make disasters.
TIA
ConteMax

Reverse engineered XDA Carkit
Not sure is this is what you're looking for but a guy from the Netherlands did some reverse enginering on the XDA carkit...
Check out http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/content.php?id=1275
RTS - Purple
DCD - Red
DTR - Blue
CTS - Yellow
RXD - Green
TXD - Orange
GND - Black
+5.5 V - Brown
Cheers...
Mike

Some additional info from the guy in the Netherlands.
L.S.
It´s funny to see that I have originally started this topic and now are beeing refered back to my own information!!
If you need some additional info have a look at www.vanhemert.biz or drop me a mail.
Francois

connect GPS to XDA
Do you have connected Heicon GPS to XDA ? If so, can you post me the pinout connection to use Heicon with XDA ? Many thanks in advance.
P.S. Sorry, i don't want to make disasters.
Thanks again
ConteMax

ConteMax I have received your message to my e-mail adres last week and have sent you a reply to your questions. If you need the layout, please have a look at the following website: http://www.vanhemert.biz/Car_Kit_GPS_Connection.htm This page describes how to connect a Haicon 203e GPS mouse to the O2 carkit.
If you do not have a carkit, have a look at the connector page at : http://www.xda-developers.com/connectors/ it describes the layout of the XDA connector.
The only thing you have to do is connect the GND, RX, TX, VCC and DCD line to get the thing up and running.
Francois

XDA/MDA Connector GPS
You need information about connector GPS.Please send me an e-mail
([email protected]) and i send you a Fax with original colors of cables.
You can use all GPS-Mouse with PS2 and serial-Connector.
Connector for XDA/MDA without the carkit look:www.holux.de

JL
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a GPS ( rs232 ) receiver to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA
We need to powered GPS and XDA ( GND and +5V ) and after :
GPS TX must be connected on pin 10 ( RX RS232 ) XDA connector
GPS RX must be connected on pin 8 ( RX RS232 ) XDA connector
Is it right ?
JLuc

I would be interested to know if the new XDA IIs has the same pinout as the earlier XDA's.
It's all in the cause fo getting the XDA IIs to accept a serial connection from my garmin GPS V.
Currently i get an error indicating COM 1 is unavailable
Any other suggestions welcome

Guest, check under setting/connections, make sure that beams is unchecked, this will release com 1, also if you have an external keyboard driver loaded you will need to deactivate this also.

O2 Carkit + TomTom GPS Mouse

Sorry to bother this forum whith even more questions about my car kit and TomTom GPS
I am trying to conect my TomTom GPS Mouse to my O2 CarKit.
I have found the pin configuration from another post on this site for the O2 Carkit connector.
RTS - Purple
DCD - Red
DTR - Blue
CTS - Yellow
RXD - Green
TXD - Orange
GND - Black
+5.5 V - Brown
(I hope this is correct)
But what the pin configuration for the TomTom GPS Receivers RJ11 connector is - I have no idea.
Please help anybody who knows which pins connect with which.
Thanks...

Yeah this one took me a while too....
Ok this is how to do it:
This is how to install a Leadtek GPS-mouse on the original O2 Carkit.
(The mouse shipped with Tom Tom Navigator is a Leadtek)
First of all you only need the cable with the RJ11 plug and the gps mouse on it. The 12V adapterplug you don't need anymore.
Preparation:
On the Carkit is a weird looking black connector for the gps.
Cut that off...
Now connect a connection block(I don't know the english word for it, but i mean the white blocks with screws in them so you can connect wires with other wires) to the following wires:
Brown
Black
Orange
Green
Now you can start:
Now you can choose to connect the mouse directly of you can make a removable connection. When I installed my carkit I used a fixed connection, but when I helped a friend out installing his carkit I used a standard phone connection box. You need a box where you can plug in a RJ11 connector. This is a better option because jou can easely unplug the gps mouse en use it again with the 12V adapter. This may come in handy if you want to be able to navigate in an other car too (Rental car on vacation).
I will explain how to make a fixed connection, so mounting a box in between will be fairly easy.
1) Cut off the RJ11 plug from the mouse
2) Strip the wires
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Note: The color codes of Leadtek mouse change all the time!
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In my case it where the following colors:
[Red](VCC +5)
[Wit] (RX)
[Black] (TX)
[No isolation] (Aarde)
3) Connect [Red] with (Brown)
4) Connect [White] met (Green)
5) Connect [Black] met (Orange)
6) Connect [No isolation] met (Black)
This should work!
PS
It may be wise to mount a switch between the radio-mute cable, because it mutes when you start TomTom.
You might want to listen to music when driving and navigating long distances.

do you know the pin numbers on the rj11 connector incase my wires are different colours...

No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4

You're welcom, by the way....

Thanks for your help - my sat nav is now working through the xda car kit.
I was a bit nervous when i pluged it in for the first time - but nothing blew up and it is now all working - i would recomend this setup to anybody.
It took me a few minutes to juggle all the volume settings around untill i found a combination that had phone calls and sat nav voice prompts all at the same level but once that was done everything is fine.

maxlw said:
No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4
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Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
Thxs in advance,
rene from holland

Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.

The connections should be as follows...
A1 to Black
A2 to Orange
A3 to Green
A4 to Brown
Hope this helps...

roycruse said:
Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.
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I just heard from another member. The solution is simple: if i turn out the irda port it should be ok.
I'm gonna trye first thing tomorrow.
thxs,
rene

I am having a problem with the xda not charging properly in ther O2 cradle whilst the GPS mouse is connected - its almost as if the GPS mouse is using most of the available current.
Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
Does anybody else have any experience with this... what value resistor should I use...

Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
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Don't do that!!!!
It should work fine without...
Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
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IF COM1 can't be found you have installed it correctly!
Hook everything up like before and then disable beam connection in [settings],[connections],[Beam]
This is a known problem with navigating on a pda!
After that you will see that it works.
Just don't don't add anything yourself you'll probably mess up your hardware!!!
Here are the instructions in Dutch....
http://forum.pocketpc-club.nl/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12421&goto=nextoldest

Garmin e-Trex GPS -> XDA

Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has successfully hooked up a Garmin E-Trex to an XDA. It should be possible using the serial connector from both (null-modem!?!). If so what software was being used on the XDA.
Cheers
Jeff

Garmin eTrex - XDA
The eTrex and XDA make a great combination even with Pocket Streets: the eTrex gives you the vector to your destination and the XDA shows you where you are on the map at zilch cost. The draw back is that you can find your target destination on PStreets but there doesn't seem to be a way of extracting the coordinates to feed into your eTrex.
So I got the TomTom Citymap of London to try that out and after a poor user experience when the supplied gps driver locked the XDA up and I had to download another, plus no explanations of various 2.06 driver features plus finding that parts of the M25 London orbital were chopped off, I have the best of both worlds. It only cost me 10UKP.
Oh yes, connections. You can buy a TomTom power/gps cable for the XDA that is meant to take the TomTom gps mouse via a 4 connector phone type socket. So all you have to do is come up with a 4 connector phone type plug leading off to you eTrex. If you have the eTrex car cable for power and RS232, which you might want to use with a laptop, you will not want to cut this. So get a cheap RS232 cable and chop the appropriate end off for your phone type connection. Marry everything up, ignore the wife's complaints about wires and delayed departures while you fiddle with the eTrex and XDA, and you are off.
The TomTom cable phone socket housing can be taken apart briefly to check which are the Common, TX and Rx wires, and the tiny circuit board even tells you which is which. If you want I can give you the pin outs but at the risk of misinterpretation.

Etrex GPS
Managed to get it to work with Navigator and am well impressed.
Got a cable from http://pc-mobile.net/gps.htm. However had a few problems to start off with. The XDA ground to a halt (I have updated the ROM to the latest O2 release and apprently TomTom 1.4 has a problem with later version). Updated TomTom to 1.51 and still no joy. Change the interface from Garmin to IMEA 4800 baud on both GPS and TomTom and had a great weekend driving up and down the motorway and country roads in Derbyshire.
Jeff

Jeff,
Cool, isn't it! Perhaps you can enlighten me about Navigator. Not knowing much about TomTom I rather expected voice prompts on the citymap thingy I downloaded. Question: what do you have to do to get the voice prompts invoked (spend more money probably) and can you hear them from the XDA? :?:
Ken

Navigator Talking
I have Navigator 1.51 installed (downloaded from Tom Tom site) only you need at least a previous version as otherwise there are no maps.
When you do a route plan (rather than just have it in map mode), it does the "300 yards turn right......turn right.....find the next convenient place and turn round"
Not sure what happens with previous versions as I had 1.4ish on before and that interfered with Windows as I had upgraded PPC2002 to a newer version and it odesn't like that too well.
Cheers
Jeff

Hi guys, do you know if the connector for the Garmin Geko 201 is the same as the Etrex? I was looking at buying the Geko and the cable from the site listed above but they don't say specifically for the Geko. I put an email question in to the cable guys but you never know how long it will take to get an answer. It's definitely a flat connector and not a round pin type. Thanks - Jim

Hi,
I've bought a Fortuna U2 GPS receiver with an O2 XDA lead.
I've downloaded some software (GPSeasyCE), but when I try and connect to the GPS unit, I get "unable to open COM1".
Any suggestoins please?
I have tuned my keyboard driver to IR & serial, and I think I'm using the correct com port settings (4800bps, NMEA 0183).
I'd really like to just check that the hardware is working.
Can I download some free demo software that will do that?
What's best?
Thanks in advance, for any help anyone can offer,
Muddy

You have to turn off the IR port.
Muddy said:
Hi,
I've bought a Fortuna U2 GPS receiver with an O2 XDA lead.
I've downloaded some software (GPSeasyCE), but when I try and connect to the GPS unit, I get "unable to open COM1".
Any suggestoins please?
I have tuned my keyboard driver to IR & serial, and I think I'm using the correct com port settings (4800bps, NMEA 0183).
I'd really like to just check that the hardware is working.
Can I download some free demo software that will do that?
What's best?
Thanks in advance, for any help anyone can offer,
Muddy
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disable your infra red port under setting, connections/beam, it will then work. A point about cables to work with gps, if you get a serial xda cable, and you also have a pc serial cable that links to your gps, all you need to do is get a 9 pin male to 9 pin male null modem adaptor, or make one, you need to join pin 2 on one to pin 3 on the other, pin 3 to pin 2 and pin 5 to pin 5, plug your xda lead one end, gps lead the other, and away you go.

Help Coverting USB GPS to XDA :( stuck and need help

hi all i brought a usb GPS receiver from off ebay (£38) for use with computer it is a NaviLock GPS which is suitable for PC, PDA and serial....
i have tried to get this to work but nothing
the model is: http://www.navilock.de/produkte/usb_gps.html BU-303
i have had a look at the xda connector place and am trying ti wire it up to a XDA car charger....
so far i have done....
RED wire - pin 21 (+5V) (on usb its +5V)
BLACK wire - pin 5 (GND) (on usb its GND)
GREEN wire - pin 8 (RS232_TXD) (on usb its DATA+)
WHITE wire - pin 10 (RS232_RXD) (on usb its DATA-)
could someone please help me as im totally confused why it will patch a signal but it wonr show on tomtom on serial 1 running v4.01.00 ppc2003 with baud rate of 4800 and nemea v2 or what ever it is
help me please
thx in advance
gaz

Looks like a usb only receiver to me.

um... but the serial and pda models are exactly the same as this but different conectors works fine on windows 98 but doesnt on xp :\ though its supposed to. pics up signal in like 10seconds much more powerfu lthen my old haicom 203e
but i want this on my xda badly dunno why it isnt working...
also i seem to have so many serial pports on my xda 1 lol its got:
com 9:
com 1:
com 2: (makes ppc go slow and freeze half the time)
usb on serial
ive tried them all but no luck :\ i swear for sure its connected up all ok :\
hellllp! lol

Try reversing the tx rx lines, it worked for swifty on his gps even though he wired it as per instructions.

tried everything :\ i rewired it back to usb to try out on my windows partition to make sure it wasnt a duff gps and it works exellent on windows 98 cant get it to work on xp nor how ever i hook it up on the xda doesnt work either the gps starts to flash to show it has a patch and thats like in my house its a hell of a powerful gps shame i cant get it on my xda
ah well waste of £40 damn gotta try flog it now