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O2 Carkit + TomTom GPS Mouse

Sorry to bother this forum whith even more questions about my car kit and TomTom GPS
I am trying to conect my TomTom GPS Mouse to my O2 CarKit.
I have found the pin configuration from another post on this site for the O2 Carkit connector.
RTS - Purple
DCD - Red
DTR - Blue
CTS - Yellow
RXD - Green
TXD - Orange
GND - Black
+5.5 V - Brown
(I hope this is correct)
But what the pin configuration for the TomTom GPS Receivers RJ11 connector is - I have no idea.
Please help anybody who knows which pins connect with which.
Thanks...

Yeah this one took me a while too....
Ok this is how to do it:
This is how to install a Leadtek GPS-mouse on the original O2 Carkit.
(The mouse shipped with Tom Tom Navigator is a Leadtek)
First of all you only need the cable with the RJ11 plug and the gps mouse on it. The 12V adapterplug you don't need anymore.
Preparation:
On the Carkit is a weird looking black connector for the gps.
Cut that off...
Now connect a connection block(I don't know the english word for it, but i mean the white blocks with screws in them so you can connect wires with other wires) to the following wires:
Brown
Black
Orange
Green
Now you can start:
Now you can choose to connect the mouse directly of you can make a removable connection. When I installed my carkit I used a fixed connection, but when I helped a friend out installing his carkit I used a standard phone connection box. You need a box where you can plug in a RJ11 connector. This is a better option because jou can easely unplug the gps mouse en use it again with the 12V adapter. This may come in handy if you want to be able to navigate in an other car too (Rental car on vacation).
I will explain how to make a fixed connection, so mounting a box in between will be fairly easy.
1) Cut off the RJ11 plug from the mouse
2) Strip the wires
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Note: The color codes of Leadtek mouse change all the time!
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In my case it where the following colors:
[Red](VCC +5)
[Wit] (RX)
[Black] (TX)
[No isolation] (Aarde)
3) Connect [Red] with (Brown)
4) Connect [White] met (Green)
5) Connect [Black] met (Orange)
6) Connect [No isolation] met (Black)
This should work!
PS
It may be wise to mount a switch between the radio-mute cable, because it mutes when you start TomTom.
You might want to listen to music when driving and navigating long distances.

do you know the pin numbers on the rj11 connector incase my wires are different colours...

No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4

You're welcom, by the way....

Thanks for your help - my sat nav is now working through the xda car kit.
I was a bit nervous when i pluged it in for the first time - but nothing blew up and it is now all working - i would recomend this setup to anybody.
It took me a few minutes to juggle all the volume settings around untill i found a combination that had phone calls and sat nav voice prompts all at the same level but once that was done everything is fine.

maxlw said:
No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4
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Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
Thxs in advance,
rene from holland

Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.

The connections should be as follows...
A1 to Black
A2 to Orange
A3 to Green
A4 to Brown
Hope this helps...

roycruse said:
Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.
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I just heard from another member. The solution is simple: if i turn out the irda port it should be ok.
I'm gonna trye first thing tomorrow.
thxs,
rene

I am having a problem with the xda not charging properly in ther O2 cradle whilst the GPS mouse is connected - its almost as if the GPS mouse is using most of the available current.
Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
Does anybody else have any experience with this... what value resistor should I use...

Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
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Don't do that!!!!
It should work fine without...
Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
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IF COM1 can't be found you have installed it correctly!
Hook everything up like before and then disable beam connection in [settings],[connections],[Beam]
This is a known problem with navigating on a pda!
After that you will see that it works.
Just don't don't add anything yourself you'll probably mess up your hardware!!!
Here are the instructions in Dutch....
http://forum.pocketpc-club.nl/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12421&goto=nextoldest

Garmin e-Trex GPS -> XDA

Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has successfully hooked up a Garmin E-Trex to an XDA. It should be possible using the serial connector from both (null-modem!?!). If so what software was being used on the XDA.
Cheers
Jeff

Garmin eTrex - XDA
The eTrex and XDA make a great combination even with Pocket Streets: the eTrex gives you the vector to your destination and the XDA shows you where you are on the map at zilch cost. The draw back is that you can find your target destination on PStreets but there doesn't seem to be a way of extracting the coordinates to feed into your eTrex.
So I got the TomTom Citymap of London to try that out and after a poor user experience when the supplied gps driver locked the XDA up and I had to download another, plus no explanations of various 2.06 driver features plus finding that parts of the M25 London orbital were chopped off, I have the best of both worlds. It only cost me 10UKP.
Oh yes, connections. You can buy a TomTom power/gps cable for the XDA that is meant to take the TomTom gps mouse via a 4 connector phone type socket. So all you have to do is come up with a 4 connector phone type plug leading off to you eTrex. If you have the eTrex car cable for power and RS232, which you might want to use with a laptop, you will not want to cut this. So get a cheap RS232 cable and chop the appropriate end off for your phone type connection. Marry everything up, ignore the wife's complaints about wires and delayed departures while you fiddle with the eTrex and XDA, and you are off.
The TomTom cable phone socket housing can be taken apart briefly to check which are the Common, TX and Rx wires, and the tiny circuit board even tells you which is which. If you want I can give you the pin outs but at the risk of misinterpretation.

Etrex GPS
Managed to get it to work with Navigator and am well impressed.
Got a cable from http://pc-mobile.net/gps.htm. However had a few problems to start off with. The XDA ground to a halt (I have updated the ROM to the latest O2 release and apprently TomTom 1.4 has a problem with later version). Updated TomTom to 1.51 and still no joy. Change the interface from Garmin to IMEA 4800 baud on both GPS and TomTom and had a great weekend driving up and down the motorway and country roads in Derbyshire.
Jeff

Jeff,
Cool, isn't it! Perhaps you can enlighten me about Navigator. Not knowing much about TomTom I rather expected voice prompts on the citymap thingy I downloaded. Question: what do you have to do to get the voice prompts invoked (spend more money probably) and can you hear them from the XDA? :?:
Ken

Navigator Talking
I have Navigator 1.51 installed (downloaded from Tom Tom site) only you need at least a previous version as otherwise there are no maps.
When you do a route plan (rather than just have it in map mode), it does the "300 yards turn right......turn right.....find the next convenient place and turn round"
Not sure what happens with previous versions as I had 1.4ish on before and that interfered with Windows as I had upgraded PPC2002 to a newer version and it odesn't like that too well.
Cheers
Jeff

Hi guys, do you know if the connector for the Garmin Geko 201 is the same as the Etrex? I was looking at buying the Geko and the cable from the site listed above but they don't say specifically for the Geko. I put an email question in to the cable guys but you never know how long it will take to get an answer. It's definitely a flat connector and not a round pin type. Thanks - Jim

Hi,
I've bought a Fortuna U2 GPS receiver with an O2 XDA lead.
I've downloaded some software (GPSeasyCE), but when I try and connect to the GPS unit, I get "unable to open COM1".
Any suggestoins please?
I have tuned my keyboard driver to IR & serial, and I think I'm using the correct com port settings (4800bps, NMEA 0183).
I'd really like to just check that the hardware is working.
Can I download some free demo software that will do that?
What's best?
Thanks in advance, for any help anyone can offer,
Muddy

You have to turn off the IR port.
Muddy said:
Hi,
I've bought a Fortuna U2 GPS receiver with an O2 XDA lead.
I've downloaded some software (GPSeasyCE), but when I try and connect to the GPS unit, I get "unable to open COM1".
Any suggestoins please?
I have tuned my keyboard driver to IR & serial, and I think I'm using the correct com port settings (4800bps, NMEA 0183).
I'd really like to just check that the hardware is working.
Can I download some free demo software that will do that?
What's best?
Thanks in advance, for any help anyone can offer,
Muddy
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disable your infra red port under setting, connections/beam, it will then work. A point about cables to work with gps, if you get a serial xda cable, and you also have a pc serial cable that links to your gps, all you need to do is get a 9 pin male to 9 pin male null modem adaptor, or make one, you need to join pin 2 on one to pin 3 on the other, pin 3 to pin 2 and pin 5 to pin 5, plug your xda lead one end, gps lead the other, and away you go.

SPV camera on XDA ?

Hi all !
I have recently upgraded from an SPV to the XDA.
As many of you will know, both are made by HTC, and share many accessories (charger, USB cables, headphones etc).
The connector on the bottom is the same for both items. I kept the camera from my SPV and it connects fantasticly to the bottom of my XDA (although the lens faces the other way round thanks to the connector being the other way round) :wink: .
Is there anyway anybody can get this camera to work with the XDA? I would have thought the XDA would be more than capable of using it as its far more powerful than an SPV and uses a far better version of the windows mobile operating systems?...
I'd rather use this camer than going for one of the SD cameras mentioned (mainly because I already have it, and also so I don't have to keep taking out my SD card just to use it - oh and on the SPV because its not an SD camera you can of course take a photo and save it on to a large SD card rather than the small internal memory..)
any ideas plz?!
cheers !

try www.iastyle.com they make most of the ppc cams.
look under OEM, for a driver or somthin

or do a search because the subject have been up more then once
forget the result

Cheers people.
There has been a few subjects created on this before but it looks like although everybody realises the SPV camera physically connects to the XDAs' interface (not the SD slot, the charger/usb cable connect slot), there is no driver available for it. :?
IA style only seem to make photo software and one compact flash camera.
I'd be really interested to see if anybody has made a driver for the camera for PPC 2002. The pin outs on the connection must be the same as I can charge my SPV and XDA with the same charger and I can also sync data with a USB cable and that works with both the SPV and XDA.
Can any body else help!? :?:
cheers

shakers24 said:
Hi all !
I have recently upgraded from an SPV to the XDA.
As many of you will know, both are made by HTC, and share many accessories (charger, USB cables, headphones etc).
The connector on the bottom is the same for both items. I kept the camera from my SPV and it connects fantasticly to the bottom of my XDA (although the lens faces the other way round thanks to the connector being the other way round) :wink: .
Is there anyway anybody can get this camera to work with the XDA? I would have thought the XDA would be more than capable of using it as its far more powerful than an SPV and uses a far better version of the windows mobile operating systems?...
I'd rather use this camer than going for one of the SD cameras mentioned (mainly because I already have it, and also so I don't have to keep taking out my SD card just to use it - oh and on the SPV because its not an SD camera you can of course take a photo and save it on to a large SD card rather than the small internal memory..)
any ideas plz?!
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32242&item=3368908114
cheers !
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thanks!
Unfortunatly that camera plugs into the SD slot which isn't want I want as you cant then save the images on the SD card which is much bigger than the phones memory. (plus I already have the SPV camera)
cheers for your help though ! :wink:
Paul

BA as car(pocket)pc

I've bought a used xv6600 off ebay which I'm going to convert to a carpc.
As a first time BA user, i have a few questions.
I have read the wiki/searched the forum, but I'm a bit mixed up and hence posting this thread.
installed versions on the phone:
model: PH20A2
ROM version: 1.36.00 WWE
ROM date 01/13/05
radio HA01_151
protocol AA.3.3.3.01
PRL 50619
extrom 1.36.116 WWE
hardware version 0041
a few notes:
- Its not going to be used as a phone as I can't register it with my local cellular provider (although they do support CMDA EVDO) - so I couldnt care less about if its radio works..
- Its going to be paired to a BT GPS from socket.
- the BA/xv6600 is going to be permanently mounted into the car (I'm still designing how, it would be in horizontal mode though).
- since It'll be permanently mounted, I won't (and couldnt) use the keyboard..
- audio out is going to be used to connect to an external speaker
- the BA will be charged from the car's 12v (always connected).
my questions are:
1) where could I find schematics for getting audio output (if exists), as well as where to connect the charge directly to the BA's connector.
I have only a cradle, no sync cable, which means I'd probably have to open up the BA and soldier directly, or get a connector...
2) should I connect audio out to the connector (if possible?) or the 2.5mm output on top of the device.. ?
3) I'd be interested in upgrading to WM5, I've read on the forums that it isn't possible on the CDMA versions because the radio doesnt work (or does it?). Since I don't care about the radio, could I install WM5 ? which ROM would be suitable for my BA model ?
awaiting your answers,
thanks!

Sounds like a neat project
ido said:
- the BA will be charged from the car's 12v (always connected).
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Might be a bad idea...car batteries are designed to give out high power for short periods, not low constant drains. Personally I'd connect it to the ignition circuit so it's only powered when the ACC line is live. This will also turn it off for you after X minutes if you use the "auto-power off on batteries" function. It may even turn it on for you!
1) where could I find schematics for getting audio output (if exists), as well as where to connect the charge directly to the BA's connector.
I have only a cradle, no sync cable, which means I'd probably have to open up the BA and soldier directly, or get a connector...
2) should I connect audio out to the connector (if possible?) or the 2.5mm output on top of the device.. ?
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The connector does have audio available. Buy a cable and hack it because if you mess it up you just buy another. Messing up the connector itself on the phone is more fatal. I think the schematic is on the wiki for the actual pin outs.
You might also find these useful:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-235616.html

yes after constant searching , i also found those threads.
Yet I'm wondering, some connectors don't include all 22 pins, but only the ones actually used for charging (for example) - and then it'll be really hard to hack them.
I guess i'll just have to hope I buy one that does have all 22 pins installed... unless you have other idea's for me.
Also, for the charger, you're right, I didn't mention that, but thats somewhat my intention.
Since the unit will be permanently mounted, I won't be able to sync it (unless I bring a laptop to my car) - could I somehow get a two SD cards installed at once to the unit ?

ido said:
yes after constant searching , i also found those threads.
Yet I'm wondering, some connectors don't include all 22 pins, but only the ones actually used for charging (for example) - and then it'll be really hard to hack them.
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Yes, that's correct. If you get a charge & sync cable you'll have most. Might need to take audio from the 2.5mm jack in that case. That's probably the simplest solution if you cannot get a fully wired one. I'm interested in this sort of thing, so if you could post an update on what you go with I'd be grateful.
Since the unit will be permanently mounted, I won't be able to sync it (unless I bring a laptop to my car) - could I somehow get a two SD cards installed at once to the unit ?
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I doubt you could get two SD cards. What may be possible is some sort of SD card extension device. Never seen one (never looked), but if it existed you could have a dash-mounted SD card.
Bluetooth or WiFi might help you e.g. with WiFi you could browse a network share to copy music over from your house. Also, there is a tool for WM5 that turns the phone into a keydrive, i.e. a USB mass storage device. Unless you need contacts etc sync'ed, that might be a bit simpler & give you more options to what you can hook up for.
PS bluetooth on WM5 isn't all that great. There is a "fix" that wakes the device now and then. This would light up your car overnight and might possibly be a thief magnet. On the other hand, if the battery dies on WM2003, you lose the data on it.

- At first I thought of making the device extractable, so I thought it'll be better to use the connector on the bottom for audio, but I've decided not to go this route (more complications and harder to make - also makes it easier for thieves.
So I'm probably going to go for the 2.5mm jack for audio.
- as for SD, since the SD slot won't be accessible, I thought of making an SD slot on the dashboard - and I'd like to switch between both.
an SD is connected via 9 pins, meaning making an SD switch is possible, but you wouldn't be able to use both.. thus I was wondering if software/hardware wise there is a builtin capabilty of such a thing as using two SD's at once. that'll be really cool.
- unfortunatly my XV6600 does not have WIFI, and BT is NOT an option for syncing (too slow !! - just imagine syncing 2gb of audio/vid via bluetooth..)
the two idea's I've had is making a USB connector on the dash (just incase I can get a laptop in the car..)
and the other, was the dash SD slot..
- for bluetooth, can't I just disable auto wakeup ?
- how will upgrading to WM5 save my data even if the battery drains ? its the same RAM chip's, not flash ROM, isn't that right ?
- as for HR's, the question is if I can somehow get the unit to 'working order' by installing software from the SD card, without actually syncing it to a computer..

fraser: Since I'm going to be connecting the ppc to the ignition circuit, and I'd also like to have a USB connector on the dashboard, I'd need to switch between the two.
i already have a car 12v connector -> usb charger device.
Should I buy a SYNC cable and convert it to charger, or car charger and convert it to USB cable ?
(although car charger might not have all the right pins..)

ido said:
thus I was wondering if software/hardware wise there is a builtin capabilty of such a thing as using two SD's at once. that'll be really cool.
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Never heard of that I'm afraid. A switcher may work, but make sure there aren't any other physical switches that get tripped when you put a card in.
- for bluetooth, can't I just disable auto wakeup ?
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No, this BT issue is the biggest one on WM5
- how will upgrading to WM5 save my data even if the battery drains ? its the same RAM chip's, not flash ROM, isn't that right ?
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No, it's different ones. WM5 uses the "storage" area for your personal data; you now no longer have /storage as it's all in there. The RAM becomes proper RAM, although you can use some of it as a ramdisk with the same loss-of-power issues as WM2003.
- as for HR's, the question is if I can somehow get the unit to 'working order' by installing software from the SD card, without actually syncing it to a computer..
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That's exactly what I do. I've stopped using the PC installers, there is enough junk on my PC. Just find the cabs for the apps and keep a copy on the SD card.

Not all apps have cabs.. so that might be a problem.
as well as I'll have to make pre-made .reg fixes just incase I'll have to HR.
as for WM5, if I install it, won't I have less free space then ?

ido said:
Not all apps have cabs.. so that might be a problem.
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You can extract the cabs in various ways. Some exe's can even be opened in winrar.
as for WM5, if I install it, won't I have less free space then ?
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You can reformat the storage area to 60 meg before the upgrade. Only before though. You don't get a memory slider like in WM2003.
Still, I'm not so sure on WM5 being the best for you. You'd want to have reliable BT and I'm not sure it is on WM5.

So I guess I'll stick with WM2003 for the time being.
I'm ordering an SD slot for the dashboard, as well as a USB connector.
Another Idea I've had is the need for the hardreset as well as reset button.
to which version should I upgrade my rom then ?

ido said:
- an SD is connected via 9 pins, meaning making an SD switch is possible, but you wouldn't be able to use both.. thus I was wondering if software/hardware wise there is a builtin capabilty of such a thing as using two SD's at once. that'll be really cool. ..
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sorry to butt-in but, someone had done that before: SD-WiFi & SD Mem Card in parallel on the same 9 pin source: pda sd expansion.
a switch might be of help if you don't want to use the two slots simultaneously.

Yes I've seen that. Its a pretty lame hack if you read it to the end.
there's a better link with larger photo's for anyone interested:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hutchinson27/pockpc/
also, his project doesnt seem to work at the same time, and I've decided not to go with the switch route.
I'm reading a lot of the SD specs, So there is a very slim possibility I'll be able to get two cards to co-exist (and I would love some proffesional help if any of you guys know more about SD's then I do).
if not, then I'll just make an SD slot on the dashboard..

GPS antenna

I've recently purchased an EverMore GM-R900 GPS receiver, connected to the 750v serial port through a mini-DIN adapter (which also includes power input from the car adapter). The question is : how do I map the serial (data) to make it available to other apps (other than active sync, which seems to be the only user of the serial...) ? I tried with GPS Gate but unsuccessfully, I cant find the correct source. Has anybody experienced something similar, yet? Perhaps with some carholder with integrated gps?

UP! C'mon.....is there a way? I've also tried with gpsgate but maybe I'm using the wrong parameters....... I've tried (from WM gps config) to map every port but I'm not getting a thing on any of them. The antenna itself seems to be working.

Still No GPS Device Found
Hi Guys,
Thanks in advance, i have gone through this site numerous times but still haven't been able to get my TomTom working on my new Treo750 and Ox-XDA IIs both running WM6.
I have GPS receiver in my cradle which works like a jam on my previous Treo650 (Running PalmOS). But since upgrading to this WM device it has become a night mare can't get it right particularly the way windows is handling com ports.
Can any one please guide me on how to get it going as I don't have PDA with in-build GPS receiver nor bluetooth receiver only this serial connected receiver.
Thanks
Nilesh

not sure i understood
If you have the tom tom software from your 650 and you are trying to use it on wm6 ,it is more than liely a software problem.
i have tom tom running on my 750,with a sirfstar 3 bluetooth gps unit, with no problems but the software came with the device.
If I am not mistaken tom tom allow you a device change every so often, in which case you will be able to download the correct software for your device.