SD card issues - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

Has anyone else got issues with the use of SD cards in their Alpine derivitive?
Like the card not showing as being there when you try to write to it or explore the phone with file explorer or ActiveSync?
Perhaps videos on the card stop whilst watching them with a file error or the like?
Mine does with all 4 different makes of card I have tried and I am wondering if this is a common fault.

Yep its a very common fault.
I think everyone has the same experiences. (Me included)
what version ROMs do you have ?
there is an upgrade available if yours is the origonal, the upgrade will help a bit.
have a look here ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25801
But read to the Third page as "Pug" psted a more up to date package

I am using Pug's Radio version 1.03 hybrid, but continue to suffer!
I have downloaded a SD Card benchmarking utility, my card is showing as 4.7x, but I don't know how that relates to manufacturers quoted speeds. It is either painfully slow or uses a different scale!

1GB SD from Transcend
Some ppl said the Transcend 512 SD works well on the 2i, just wonder if the 1 GB will work as good as the 512...
Any comment will be appreciated

Does anyone know where to get the 4 GB SD-Cards cheapest?
And what branches are there?
A-Data and Pretec i know, but are there more?

Re: 1GB SD from Transcend
bryan_suen said:
Some ppl said the Transcend 512 SD works well on the 2i, just wonder if the 1 GB will work as good as the 512...
Any comment will be appreciated
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I bought a Transcend 256mb 80X card an my XDA IIi has worked flawlessly since with no lock-ups what-so-ever.
I can't speak for the 1mb though!
This seems to be a power issue, the Transcend cards are very low voltage and ampage. My old SanDisk card would fail every time a network function took place, and they are high power drains.

I bought a OEM (white labelled) 1GB MMC and use it on my IIi. Everything is fine so far...
Is there any difference between MMC and SD in terms of IIi flaws?
:?:

Only SD cards are supported by the XDA2i, although if you use the backpack addon i think you can use MMC, but not without the addon.

Someone told me once that the IIi works best with a fast SD card like the Kingston Elite Pro. I changed to that and all my problems when away. TomTom5 stopped locking up as well.

Kingston SD Card
Are there any other users who have used the Kingston Elite Pro SD Card. I have been looking around for a while, and the Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB / 512 MB seem to be a single layered card.
I also wanted to confirm that when using a Sandisk SD card, I am having lockup's. If I take the card out of the slot, the XDA2i begins to respond again. Though I must admit I havent tested it exhaustively.

Kingston SD Card
Are there any other users who have used the Kingston Elite Pro SD Card. I have been looking around for a while, and the Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB / 512 MB seem to be a single layered card.
I also wanted to confirm that when using a Sandisk SD card, I am having lockup's. If I take the card out of the slot, the XDA2i begins to respond again. Though I must admit I havent tested it exhaustively.

Danny-B- said:
Only SD cards are supported by the XDA2i, although if you use the backpack addon i think you can use MMC, but not without the addon.
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You mean CF not MMC. SD and MMC both work in SD slots, but not vice versa.
CF type 2 is the slot on the VGA backpack.

SD Card issue
I understand all SD cards work.. I was trying to find the compatability of the same with Tomtom Navigator 5. I understand from the earlier posts that a multi layer card causes lockups. The transcend 80X card works fine. I was inclined towards buying a Kingston Elite Pro and hence the question...

SD Card issue
I have removed this message as it was posted twice by mistake

another Newbie,.,
hiya all. . i'm recieving my Xda 2i in about an hour.. just wondering which SD memory works best.. i read a few posts and quite frankly being quite confused,, was about to order a scandisk SD 1 gb card.. but i read somewhere ppl saying this is bad??
is that true?
thanks..

The Sandisk is not the best one. I have one and it causes lockups being a multilayer card. The transcend 80x works fine ( what i gather from different forums ). The Kingston Elite Pro also has some very good feedback. I am purchasing a 1 gb Kingston elite pro today. Sandisk is a no no... [/quote]

Thanks m8...
Kingston elite pro huh? like this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7550999880

zehave said:
Thanks m8...
Kingston elite pro huh? like this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7550999880
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I cannot browse Ebay at work so couldnt confirm. But you could find the card on this url:
http://www.epcbuyer.com/products.asp?recnumber=5761
Its around £44 on this site.
I tried to find a deal at ebay from home yesterday. They are around £39 and are being shipped from HongKong. I dont know when we will receive it. There could be excise + other charges. I am not sure.

hmm.. well on this guy whom is shipping from HK is selling it at 25 quid including shipping.. .trouble is i want it asap .. Heh... buying from him seems like 20 quid cheaper.. howeber have to wait for about 10 days or so.. . so he sez.. not to mention customs and duties.. ....
i just might shell out 44 quid then...

zehave said:
hmm.. well on this guy whom is shipping from HK is selling it at 25 quid including shipping.. .trouble is i want it asap .. Heh... buying from him seems like 20 quid cheaper.. howeber have to wait for about 10 days or so.. . so he sez.. not to mention customs and duties.. ....
i just might shell out 44 quid then...
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Well you also avoided the same trap... I almost fell into. Though it says £12 (Card) + £13 for postage, but you didnt have a look at the mandatory insurance which stands at £13. In all its around £38 + Other expenses. Not to mention the pain of getting it from hongkong...
Good decision at last...

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Transcend 1 GB

Just bought a 1gb transcend sd, been using it for a day( not TTN5 ), will test it as soon as i go back to UK.
Alll i can say is that the transcend seems to be much more stable than my Sandisk, have not had a single lock up yet....
and i really think that it should work perfect with ttn5 as well.
I can get the sd card for you guys @ 48GBP each... anyone interested just leave your email here, will be back to UK in about 10 days time
I also use 1gb transcend sd 80X. I bought it in my country. Thailand. It cost me 3,090 ฺBaht (around 41.44 GBP). It work great with my camera, also PDA.
I also use 1GB transcend(80x) card. Great card, fast performance when using a cardreader. It writes 13Mb/s so with USB 2 combined you can put a huge file (DVD or something) on it within seconds.
yup i have got 1 now as well and works a treat with tomtom5 ,no more problems , and i have been told the 1 gb is just as good
you mean 2gb?
you mean 2gb?
Hi
I buy 1G Apacer 60X but i think it have extra speed

2i KILLING SD cards??!!

Hi,
Please note that I know there is a thread at the top about SD card issues, but this post is not about locking up, this post is about 2i killing SD cards, thanks.
I have had my XDA 2i for about 3 months. When I first bought it, I bought a Viking 1GB SD card to use with it. After a month or so, the SD card died. At that time I thought I had a faulty SD card, so I bought another Viking 512MB SD card.
To my horror, it died as well today.
Can't read the cards in any of my readers.
So question is - do I have a faulty 2i? Is it a common problem at all? Or is there a design problem with 2i? Or is the 2i not compatible with Viking SD cards?
It seems like people have great success with the Transcent cards regarding the lock-up issue. So does anyone know whether it is going to solve this "murdering" problem?
Many thanks,
Wayne
I'm sure i have seen this type of post before...but to be honnest i think it might be an isolated case, perhpas its only that brand of card the XDAIIi will "Kill"
Its more than likely that what causes your XDA to kill the Viking SD cards is the same thing that only causes other SD cards to freeze.
So perhaps Viking cards are more sensative to the XDAIIi (pain in the ass) problem.
Hmm... i've had 3 SD cards die on me recently too (a PQI 1GB, a Sandisk 256MB and a Pretec 128MB)... i thought it was just a bizaare coincidence or something but now you come to mention it... :?
I've also had two viking 1gb cards die on me each within a few days of receiving them!!!! I now use a Sandisk Ultra II 2gb card which works great apart from TomTom locking up if I don't turn of the phone radio stack.
I bought a 1gb Viking Card from Ebuyer and after about 2/3 months it dided Just got my replacement so finges crossed
I've had a similar problem with my IIi I went through 2 512Mb unbranded cards from mymemory.co.uk in the space of 3 weeks. The first when screwy and reconfigured itself to be a 30Mb card. The second was completly unreadable. I put it down to me being a cheap-scate and buying unbranded products. :wink:
For the past six months I have been running without an SD related hitch (touch wood) using a Sandisk 1Gb Ultra II.
Same here.
The thing is that my 1Gb Viking card only lasted 4 days!!!!
:? :? :?
I want to get another kind of card but i´m no sure what´s the best one out there.
I think I am gonna give Transcend a go...
Viking is definitely a no-no.
Really shouldn't have just gone for the cheapest
Most SD cards have long warranty periods. Get on to either the manufacturer or the retailer and get them replaced. I once had a Sandisk card die on me and it was replaced straight away. Its replacement is still working in my digital camera now.
i too had a kingston totally die on me ,and at the same time i dropped my pda and it went skidding along the foor and was bust ,so i went back to o2 and told a small lie and so got a new 1 as it was only a week old at the time so i never found out if it was the pda or sd card ,i have now had the same sd card for a few months now no problem ...it's a transend
Those SD Card from Viking and Kingston are known faulty with XDA...
I never buy these brands of SD Card..
Try KingMax If U like, it works perfect with mine xda2 and xda2i
I had my 512 Mb Kingston SD card killed with my Alpine too
This is not a city-myth for me anymore..
Hmm... Did not heard something about broking A-Data's card. Now using one 150x 2Gb. No problems at all.
Killing SD cards
Hi
Yep same here 4 cards have been murdered by my XDA11i, a sandisk 256 and a couple of lesser sizes, all worked in my inbuilt laptop card reader till they went in the XDA. Now all i get is this card is write protected and its NOT!..Worse of all it also kills RS MMC out of my nokia 6680 so beware. These cards came brand new and played perfectly in the laptop then a couple of sessions in the XDA and bang This disk is write protected, they will be written to when in the nokia and synced by usb cable but the laptop will not write to them at all..
Getting dissapointed with the XDA11i doing this and constantly freezing looking like time to offload on ebay
Dave
OK MY Replacement Viking from Ebuyer has just died so, The Vkiings are not good for the XDA then.
hi,i popped in here after a freind pointed this out to me.
I have spent the last 3 mths checking out suppliers of sd memory for resale thru my business and most of the brands mentioned here are the ones ive come accross.
however whats not on the packet when you buy these wonders of technology is that they are modified from Rejects off the lines.
they are also modified from 128/256/512 low quality chips.
this means that compression routines have been applied to them to produce a fake formating size.
i found,purely by accident,that if you stick your sd card in a palm pda,it will read off the original manufacturers code which looks like this 0128********,0256*********,0512********* and tru 1 gig are 0000********.i personally have only just(after 3 mths)managed to secure a shipment that has been tested to be true 1 gig.thank god.
just thought this mite help you.
my sandisk died too
Bought a 1G sandisk card and ive only had it for 3months and all im getting with the 2i is a freezing screen.I soft reset at least 10 -20 times a day.Im begining to wonder if something is wrong with the 2i.Sometime the only way to start up normally is removing the card .Can someone please advice me which 1G card works best with 2i.I ve heard the transend work ok..Thanks
3 Solutions for SD cards that don't work anymore in a PDA !
1/ Try to format with your pc or other card reader (like in pc or printer).
2/ Try to format it with PocketMechanic (dowload the free trial)
There are many options : format logical, ntfs, fat, for digital
camera,pda,...
With this tool I could reformat the card and use it again
3/ Buy a Kingston Elite Pro card in future or other with LIFETIME WARANTY
I once had a card that couldn't be fixed from Kingston, it had LIFETIME
waranty! Yess KINGSTON ELITE PRO series offer that. I just posted it
internationally to London's office with RMA nr, and received a NEW SD
Card in plastic! Speaking of service!
Bought this card from an Ebay shop. I don't know how the service is
with other brands, but some have 5y waranty, you can try to return it.
Hope helping ya all!
XDAIIi still is the best, now an XDAIIi with build in GPS Antenna and we have a real all in solution
My XDAIIi might have killed Kingston 512 SD card
hi
I have a XDAIIi purchased about 4months ago.
My XDA IIi is having a lot of problems and it also may have killed my 2 months old kingston 512 MB SD card...
I tried some data recovery softwares but they did not help.
So I brought the damaged SD card to data resucue service but they could not fix data structure of SD card.... saying as below.
I have tested your SD Memory card. The card is certainly faulty. It’s a hardware fault with the memory unit. As s solid state memory ship there is no way to repair this. After further investigation, it appears this problem is very common and reports of the same brand sd card have also been reported on the internet.
I’m sorry but we have no way to extract the data off a faulty SD card like this. The size of the car is defaulting to the factory setting of 2 TB (which is HUGE!!) and other software reports it as a RAW card at 0mb.
Normally if for example the card has been accidentally formatted or the file system has been corrupted we could have easily recover the data but in this case of a hardware fault we have no method to help you. We have tried everything for you. As I told you, it was worth trying. There is no charge to you.
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And they suggested me to use less MB Sd card with the pda,
i have two other 256 sundisk SD cards but they seem to be OK.
regards
Tom
SD
Hi
Mine froze up repeatable until I found this site and removed my 128 ULTIMA. I then removed my PANASONIC 256 “Hi Speed” (supposedly but does not say what speed on the card) from my camera and all is good so far.:shock:

Max Memory Card size?

Anyone know the maximum card size the kaiser/vario3 supports?
I am thinking about getting a 6Gb microSDHC
Got a 6Gb in since Saturday. Works a treat.
32gb max even though it is not available yet.
Essentially, ANY SDHC card available as of today will work in the Kaiser.
Sweet, god this fone roxs, so pleased i didnt get the limited iphone!
I asked HTC about this when I first bought my Kaiser. They told me it would support up to a 4GB micro SDHC. There have been other posts with people who have successfully installed a 6GB card but have found problems when trying to access files and the phone has locked up, so beware.
8G
I have a Sandisk 8Gig in mine... works perfectly.
j1ngles said:
I asked HTC about this when I first bought my Kaiser. They told me it would support up to a 4GB micro SDHC. There have been other posts with people who have successfully installed a 6GB card but have found problems when trying to access files and the phone has locked up, so beware.
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I think most of that has to do with crappy quality SD cards.
I've never had a problem with any Sandisk card I've had. 1,2, and 4 GB
The reason for HTCs ascertion is simple. At the time of production of the Kaiser the largest SDHC microSD card available was a 4GB card. Therefore, they could only certify that it worked with 4GB cards at that time. And, as far as persons having issues with their phones locking up while trying to read from a 6GB card, I would venture that no matter which card that person(s) was using they would have experinced a similar fate due to whatever it was they were doing at the time.
That said, I have no reason to believe that SDHC cards up to 32 GB will not be fully supported by the WM6 OSes currently being distributed. Furthermore, I anticipate that future revisions of said OSes will equally compatible.
Hi guys,
Sorry to re-hash this thread, just wondering...
I'm about to buy a TyTN II off a friend in work, and wondering if someone could advise me the best card to buy?
I'm a massive music buff, and love my current hermes, however 8GB isn't enough these days, and itching to have more music to beat the iMoan.
So far, some digging has found me this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155755
Would that be suitable for the TyTN II?
Thank you,
I currently have a 8GB Class-4 sandisk card in my Kaiser and it has worked perfectly since I installed it last year. I have some TomTom maps and a load of music and its about 2/3's full. I have been looking for a 16GB but have held off so far. 7Dayshop.com have some 16GB MicroSD cards starting at £32.99 delivered, but these are only Class-2.
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=6&type=6027&man=0&filterwords=&go=SEARCH&comp=
Andy
According to the information I have, the 8925/Kaiser/Tilt, etc, will support at 32gig microSD card.
From what I've read, the Tilt/Kaiser will support up to a 32 gb, although 16 gb is the largest out.
However, I also read that it will only read at Class 2 speeds. Anyone know if that's actually true? If going to class 6 will give me more speed, I'd definitely go for that when I upgrade my card, but if not, there's no reason to pay more for it.
Anyone know when the 32 gb cards are supposed to come out?
Always buy a Name Brand Card and From a Reputable Dealer and you won't have any problems.
There are a lot of nefarious people out there that trick 2GB cards to act like 8GB cards and by the time you find out, because of locking up and data corruption they are gone with your cash. Don't cheap out when it comes to your data.

8GB Adata SDHC Card

I'm presently running Toflock WM6 and wanted to install the biggest possible SD card so I can put TT6 UK & Europe plus tons of other stuff without swapping cards.
I was advised in the Hima forum that there were SDHC patches which would enable SDHC. So based on this advice I just bought an Adata 8GB card.
I've tried several patches and nothing works, even the non-HC cards stop working and I have to re-install the Extrom prog to bring it back
So has anyone managed to get a class 6 SHDC card running yet ? If so with what rom etc.
Thanks
i am sorry to tell u this but SDHC is not possible on any Hima YET !!..i released 2 or maybe 3 Patches my self but none of them work...users cant even run 4GB and u bought 8GB..hope its refundable
Okay, I'll just have to keep an eye out for threads about SDHC updates.
In the meantime the Adata 8GB SDHC card will have to serve as a healthy sized flash drive to swap movies / mp3s with friends/family etc.
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
ebod said:
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
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Forget it.
Decent 4 GB SD cards from well known manufacturers cost approx. 20 €/$
There is no need for this cheap crap.
Sascha
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
svenni said:
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
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r u sure?
how? and what product?
billionton, adata or what??
Yes, i'm sure!
It's a Transcend card
I've got an A-Data 4-Gb, pink stiker (it says: myflash, 150x turbo SD 4gb Adata) and it's working well (sure not at 150x, maybe 1x ). To be fair, I have tryed several ones diferent sizes and the bigger they are slower they work, not only on the PDA but in the PC as well.
Have you testet read/write access to the whole 4gb? As far as I know, you can use these cards, but you have no access beyond 2gb.
4GB CARD
I am working with Transcend 4GB Card and the speed is great , No problem at all.
I also use a Transcend 4GB SD and it works great. You can access the full 4Gb. I watch many tv series in my himalaya with tcpmp.
As I said full access to the 4Gb card. I used to travel with my 100Gb 2,5 USB HD, some times I thinks it's a shame there is no app to get acess to it through a kind o USB cable, wuold you imagine?

Which SD Card? Largest and Fastest?

I have searched the forum and there are many threads about cards that dont work or have problems. We should have a sticky where members of the forum can post cards that work well, the capacity and make.
For example I recently bought a PNY 2GB SD card which works fine and seems to have good data transfer speed but I read that some people have had success with cards up to 8GB? is this true.
arcnet said:
For example I recently bought a PNY 2GB SD card which works fine and seems to have good data transfer speed but I read that some people have had success with cards up to 8GB? is this true.
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*EDIT*
The BA can not read SHDC cards at this time (there isn't a driver available for the card reader, if it's even capable of doing so), so 4 gig is the limit.
jdc said:
Yes it's true.
If you have WM6 and the SHDC driver installed (just about any cooked WM6 and 6.1 ROM has it), the hermes can use an SDHC card without issues. The SDHC standard has a maximum size of 32 gig.
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At this point of time, there is no working solution for the 2s / BA to read SDHC
The largest in size and the fastest SD card to use is the Transcend 4GB 150x
mAzTT said:
At this point of time, there is no working solution for the 2s / BA to read SDHC
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For some reason, I was thinking of the hermes, not the BA when I originally posted this. It has been corrected.
mAzTT said:
The largest in size and the fastest SD card to use is the Transcend 4GB 150x
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TopRAM also make a 4 gig card that works. My only problems with the card are:
The case started to split after removing the card a few too many times. A bit of 'magic' tape took care of that.
Leaving it as one big file system made reading the card in the file explorer a bit on the slow side. I received better read/write speeds by partitioning the card into a pair of two gig 'cards'.

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