Changing my Alpine 's Battery without any problems? - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

Hi,
How do I change my Alpine 's Battery without any problems? Normally when I unlock the tiny battery lock, the device hard-resets itself...

It sounds like you have a faulty device then as the backup battery should last for a while so you can change SIMs and batteries etc.

How do you change the battery normaly?

The device has a built in battery that should retain data for 20 minutes. Have you left the device in the cradle overnight so it is fully charged?

Both the main and the backup batteries are showing a 100% full charge at the moment.. How do I -lets say- change the sim without going to a full reset?

it shouldnt hard reset itself after you change the battery...well mine doesnt...(better say didnt used to...now its got a cracked screen n am waiting for replacement) there must be something wrong with your phone...

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Hima resetting (Powering off)

Hi guys!
I just wanna know, i have a Hima about 2 years old............. Sometimes at any given time, it just dies, and restart again, there is no pattern to this. (My Ramdisk is then wiped, my time defaults back to 12:00, but the rest of the data stays on the phone<Sms'es, emails programs> is still there)
I have flashed another ROM but still get this timeously.
Is this the battery? Or something else?
I dont wanna spend bucks on a battery and then the same problem occurs.
i did check the pins etc, everything is in great order!
Thanks for the help guys!
So we are talking a hard reset obviously, not a soft reset.
My Hima has done that on two occasions that I can remember, where it has been fully charged and all of a sudden just reset or not been able to turn on until I stick it back in its cradle. I have heard it happening to other people too with the same phone. One friend found that the battery was shorting out on metal somewhere (not sure where). Another found that it only seemed to do it on very hot days. I guess somehow the shape of the case changes slightly in the heat and doesn't press the battery firmly against the connector.
Other than that, I am not really sure. There may be a rouge setting that constantly drains the battery. How often does this happen?
Jadel said:
So we are talking a hard reset obviously, not a soft reset.
My Hima has done that on two occasions that I can remember, where it has been fully charged and all of a sudden just reset or not been able to turn on until I stick it back in its cradle. I have heard it happening to other people too with the same phone. One friend found that the battery was shorting out on metal somewhere (not sure where). Another found that it only seemed to do it on very hot days. I guess somehow the shape of the case changes slightly in the heat and doesn't press the battery firmly against the connector.
Other than that, I am not really sure. There may be a rouge setting that constantly drains the battery. How often does this happen?
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Its very random........It happen about 2 times a week or so.......
i got the same problem since about half a year with my hima.
it occurs randomly, sometimes every 30 secs, sometimes every 1-2 weeks.
sometimes the clock is changed to 12:00 and the date to 01.09.2003, sometimes not.
sometimes putting it in the craddle works, sometimes not (shows red light, as if it has no battery and screen stays blank)
this also damages data on the sd card from time to time (i think, this occurs, when its currently using the sd card while the reset starts)
i can reproduce the same behaviour
by removing the back panel and tabbing the batt
in a special place i say it's hardware
I too had this problem..your backup battery is dead..you will have to replace it
ather90 said:
I too had this problem..your backup battery is dead..you will have to replace it
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Thanks guys! New battery it is!
Cheers
what kind of batter is the backup batter? (how many volt)
it is a special kind of lithiu, cell (just as in you pc but a little different)
i ve tried replacing my self but cant
ather90 said:
it is a special kind of lithiu, cell (just as in you pc but a little different)
i ve tried replacing my self but cant
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Hey A90!
Question: Is the backup battery part of the battery, or is it build into the Hima?
Cause i see mine sometimes shows:
Main battery: 98% etc
Backup:50%
A few hours after the backup battery shows 100% again
Strange, my phone did not yet blackout this week!
later
heya rac..the backup battery is charged when u charge your Main battery..and its soldiered into the PCB (requires skills to open up the hima)
ather90 said:
heya rac..the backup battery is charged when u charge your Main battery..and its soldiered into the PCB (requires skills to open up the hima)
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hey A90! Thanks alot. I wont open the device.....hehhehe!
Im not technical at all!

Battery goes from 90% to 0%

Anyone have the problem that the battery status is incorrect? Sometimes within the hour of fully charing my device the screen starts to flicker and then device turns it self off.
When I restart and charge it the battery bar shows almost emtpy and goes to 100% after ten minutes in only one step.
I am using Sakajati's latest ROM. Only modification I did was replace IE with the previous version.
1. Flash a stock ROM see if still problem.
2. Try a different battery see if still problem.
Both will test hardware or ROM related.
Your battery is most likely dead.
yeah I agree your battery is most likely dead. I had the same problem with my first tilt. It died out cos I accidentally overcharged it a few times.
poppinpengawen said:
yeah I agree your battery is most likely dead. I had the same problem with my first tilt. It died out cos I accidentally overcharged it a few times.
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how did you overcahrge your tilt? i would like to avoid doing that.
thanks
You can't, the phone would just stop charging it.
ChumleyEX said:
You can't, the phone would just stop charging it.
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i know the phone is smarter than that, but i figured he used an off brand charger or something like that, just wanted to make sure.
If you use too hot of a charger it can hurt the battery a little bit....
I know that a common cause of this problem beyond the battery is that the phone's calibration to read the battery level gets thrown off. To reset the calibration, turn the phone off, do a battery pull, wait a good 30 seconds, put it back in, then without turning the device back on, put it on the charger and let it chill for a couple hours. When all is said and done, you should have a fully charged battery and a recalibrated Kaiser.
I would not be to quick to blame the battery here but yes it could be that What SPL do you have? If the device acts dodgy whit screen freeze it could be that. I would try some other whit recomended rom and give it a spin before changing battery (ofc. short version is to borrow a fresh one to eliminate).

[Q] Battery will not charge beyond 10%

So I seem to have a strange problem; my phone seems to be unable to charge my battery beyond let's say 10%. For the first couple of minute when I charge the phone via a usb connection with my pc; it displays a battery filled about 5% accoumpanied by a yellow triangle and a black exclamation mark in the triangle. Then after some times of leaving it in the pc; it does show the original battery screen, a battery filled up to about 10% with five black/grey dots underneath it, and one-by-one these dots light up.
I am on a rooted xxla4 rom with the accompanying kernel..... (I can't perform a "wipe battery stats from this CWM version" and I would like to stay on this rom, because it at least a bit like the stock rom, since I don't know whether with this battery situation I will ever get enough battery to install the stock rom again with odin 3.04 )
**Originally I was a while on Asylum 10.1, but then I tried out Parandroid 2.99 beta and to improve the performance I installed Rhythum kernel, when I was a Asylum about two days ago and everthing still worked properly I had about 7 hours of battery life and my phone charged (with the wall charger) to about 100% in three hours. I can't imagine a battery to break within 72 hours and I also can't imagine Rhythum kernel or Parandroid to have caused this, but if I am wrong PLEASE CORRECT ME.
Hi,
If i were you, i'd flash a kernel that supports remove battery stats and remove them.
If that doesn't work, you could try to flash your rom again, but this one is tricky...
because your phone doesn't charge further then 10%.
I don't know about the rom you said, but use a rom without aroma to be sure the least battery is drained...
I hope this will help you.
Good luck.
Cheers,
Kreekhoorn
**Not to forget to keep your phone into the charger (wallcharger) while flashing, just to save battery.
Do a battery calibration using apps in the store, may be the 10% is 100%
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Well, the 10%, regretfully isn't a 100%, because the phone kicks me out after about 5 minutes, because it says the battery is empty. I also can't use the battery calibration, because these apps say the phone isn't fully charged so they close.....
(flashing a kernel is possible, but because I can't get into the phone anymore; the battery now remains dead. It seems I am quite cornered now)
**But do you guys think this problem is purely battery related or do you think the phone itself is broken, I mean if just the battery is broken, I might just get a new one, but I don't want to buy a battery to find out the phone itself is actually broken....:crying:
I would first try a different battery
I will need to buy one either way, since I don't own a spare battery and don't know anyone with a spare battery...
**Recently I tried to flash Asylum back on my Note, because it had a kernel which is able to remove the battery stats, but Mobile ODIN got stuck at about 12% of flashing the rom-> so now when I put the phone into the charger, it does not get beyond the picture of the battery with the loading sign within; does this mean the phone is broken? And are you still able to charge although the phone's UI does not show the battery is charging....(So does the battery still charge without the loading interface on the phone?)
->Also when buying a new battery do they at least come a bit pre-charged or are they sold completely empty? Does anyone know anything about this?
Keep the charger plugged in with the phone off for a couple of hours. Download a good custom rom. Boot into recovery and most uab storage. Copy the rom on to your phone. Perform all wipes and installation the new rom.
The new battery comes with a little charge in it.
Thanks for the advice, I have bought a new battery. It is shipping to me; I hope this will resolve my problems (key will be whether the battery is already charged a bit, because I don't know if it will charge in my phone. Since I don't have a rom installed (mobile odin seems to have deleted my rom, but did not continue to install the new rom.....)) Fingers crossed!
(I also kept the charger in the phone some time, but it just does not want to charge; in the very few times I can enter download mode, I get the "can't download battery is too low" message)
->I will let let you guys know if something changes!
There are external chargers which are pretty cheap. This will help in worst case scenario. Anyways good luck mate
New Battery just charges 3% in one hour
So I recieved my new battery, and flashed a new rom, but I seem to have an other strange problem; I let the phone charge for about an hour now, and the battery just went up by 3 percent. Has anyone else seen this kind of behaviour with a new battery (the store from which I bought the battery said it was an original battery -> http://www.mobilesupplies.nl/battery-samsung-galaxy-note-n7000-eb615268vu-p-13527.html (link to the battery I bought))
->To put this in perspective the battery I previously had (which is apparantly broke now) charged to 100% from 0% in just 3 hours.....
try a few charging cycles and then check the charging time
This probably is a bad question, but I suppose it is better to ask than just to assume; does anyone know whether clearing my battery stats will improve the rate my phone charges my battery? I assume the phone remembers the battery stats taken from my previous battery, which might influence its usage of the new battery?
I don't think so as it's regarded useless clearing battery stats in recovery.. That's why it has been removed from the newer version of Cwm recoveries.
Any how charging the battery to 100% resets that file
The same problems seems to also pop-up with this new battery, I suppose there is nothing else left to do except for sending the phone to the repair center.
->The phone does show something is plugged in, it does detect the usb cable connected to the wall charger which is consequently connected to the power output in the wall. The image it shows (BASED ON THE CHARGE LEFT IN THE BATTERY, so it does not show anything when the battery is empty) is a battery with a yellow triangle and a black exclamation mark inside the yellow triangle (the same icon I got with my old battery)
The battery also does not get hot neither does the phone in the slightest bit; and in my memory, before this problem occured, I remembered the phone getting at least a little bit more warm.
I suppose now all that probably remains is for the Samsung service center to either check the charging circuits and try to fix those OR replace the entire motherboard (which what I assume they will do). I just hope they are not going to make up some excuse about the garanty, because I have always treated my phone with the utmost care....
may be its just the USB module that needs changing.. Samsung should do it.
Well i also juat got a new battery this week. I went for the samsungs spare rather than the mugen extended or the gold battery.
My old battery got swollen and its because of my fault, i used to keep it on charge throuhout night to get 100% in the morning but i was surprised coz despite being in bad shape it was giving me a goos battery time. But after a discussion here on xda i got a new battery and i am happy now coz its giving me 30% more time plus i got extra power now
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I have the same problem. Does any one have a fix?
When you put your micro usb cable inside your note's usb port, does it wiggle? If so there is nothing else you can do, but to sent your phone to Samsung for warranty. They will fix the usb port and maybe even replace the motherboard. And remember don't wiggle aroubd your phone when it is on the charger or usb plug next time....

Droid Turbo turns off automatically

Hi guys,
My phone turns off automatically. It actually has happened 4 -5 times in 3 days. Let me explain; Once my phone was just on my table and I picked up but it was off and nothing was happening. I just plugged in my wall charger (Turbo Power), it turned on and the charging showed 53℅ so it came back to life. Today, my phone was on charge and it was almost 70℅ andI had to remove the charger but as soon as I removed it, screen turned off and then I had to put the wall charger again to make it alive.
What could be the issue? I am confused.
Thanks!
Attached is an image of my battery stats for reference. Thanks!
82% wifi battery drain? Do you still have this problem if you keep wifi off? I would perform a factory reset if I were you.
TheSt33v said:
82% wifi battery drain? Do you still have this problem if you keep wifi off? I would perform a factory reset if I were you.
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Yes, the issue is still there when I keep my WiFi off. Also, i noticed that my phone used to get charge from 5℅ to around 40℅ within 15 or 20 minutes. I did put my phone on charge few hours ago but in one hour it was only 53℅.
I use Turbo Power wall charger and I purchased this phone 2 weeks ago. I'm not sure if doing factory reset would work or not but first I want to make sure there is nothing else wrong with this.
Any thoughts?
sh_obaid said:
Yes, the issue is still there when I keep my WiFi off. Also, i noticed that my phone used to get charge from 5℅ to around 40℅ within 15 or 20 minutes. I did put my phone on charge few hours ago but in one hour it was only 53℅.
I use Turbo Power wall charger and I purchased this phone 2 weeks ago. I'm not sure if doing factory reset would work or not but first I want to make sure there is nothing else wrong with this.
Any thoughts?
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If a factory reset doesn't fix it, my only other guess is that there is something wrong with the battery. If you purchased it new, it's very easy to get a warranty replacement through Motorola if you live in the USA, but I'm not sure how it would work outside of it.
I just posted in the "Weird Battery" thread. But you need to do a Battery Re-calibration by holding the power button to turn the phone and KEEP holding button until the phone re-boots itself. Ignore the "Power Off" dialog. Then plug in the stock turbo charger overnight. I had this problem a lot while using a wireless charger.
radon222 said:
I just posted in the "Weird Battery" thread. But you need to do a Battery Re-calibration by holding the power button to turn the phone and KEEP holding button until the phone re-boots itself. Ignore the "Power Off" dialog. Then plug in the stock turbo charger overnight. I had this problem a lot while using a wireless charger.
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Thanks for the response and I will definitely try this. However, there is something I noticed: Today I plugged in my Turbo Charger and the phone started charging from 4%. After 45 minutes, it was 22%. I think that means it wasn't turbo charging and as soon as I plugged out the cable from my phone, it turned off and again I had to plug the cable in and it turned on and started charging. I then turned on my phone and the battery was at 22% (charging). After next 30 minutes it was at around 70% and then I tried to pull out the charging cable to see if it turns off again but it didn't.
I am not sure if it's right but I feel like when it doesn't get a turbo charge, it gets turned off when I remove the charging cable from it. But when it actually gets turbo charge, it doesn't turn off and act normally.
This is really confusing, isn't it?
No one?
The most likely problem is that your battery is failing due to age.
Although it appears to maintain a usable voltage, reflected in the battery % displayed, it can no longer provide the current needed to run the phone under high-load conditions. In those cases the voltage drops momentarily below the 0% level, triggering an immediate shutdown.
Try taking the back cover off the phone and seeing if the battery is significantly swollen or bloated. If so, it's time for a replacement. There are good video guides on YouTube detailing the process.
Your device is two years old, and all batteries wear out with enough charge/discharge cycles. If the phone is exposed to high temperatures (such as during turbo charging), the batteries will wear out faster.
Spott07 said:
The most likely problem is that your battery is failing due to age.
Although it appears to maintain a usable voltage, reflected in the battery % displayed, it can no longer provide the current needed to run the phone under high-load conditions. In those cases the voltage drops momentarily below the 0% level, triggering an immediate shutdown.
Try taking the back cover off the phone and seeing if the battery is significantly swollen or bloated. If so, it's time for a replacement. There are good video guides on YouTube detailing the process.
Your device is two years old, and all batteries wear out with enough charge/discharge cycles. If the phone is exposed to high temperatures (such as during turbo charging), the batteries will wear out faster.
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Are you sure it can be a problem of battery? I purchased this phone in start of February and it's new. Also, if it's a battery problem then why does it happen just sometimes? Why not every time i plug in the charger? Also, my battery after full charge give me a handsome backup of 1 and a half day easily even after 81% use of a WiFi.
sh_obaid said:
Are you sure it can be a problem of battery? I purchased this phone in start of February and it's new. Also, if it's a battery problem then why does it happen just sometimes? Why not every time i plug in the charger? Also, my battery after full charge give me a handsome backup of 1 and a half day easily even after 81% use of a WiFi.
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A weak battery is one possibility, but if you're getting a day and a half of usage from a full battery, then it's probably a different problem.
My next guess would be a bad charging cable or damaged USB port. Or possibly a poorly written app that's running in the background and causing memory problems somehow.
What Android version or ROM is on your phone, what background apps are running, and do you have any root programs or system modifications?
Spott07 said:
A weak battery is one possibility, but if you're getting a day and a half of usage from a full battery, then it's probably a different problem.
My next guess would be a bad charging cable or damaged USB port. Or possibly a poorly written app that's running in the background and causing memory problems somehow.
What Android version or ROM is on your phone, what background apps are running, and do you have any root programs or system modifications?
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Thanks for the response. My Android version is 6.0.1 and in background I am not sure where to look at but the usual stuff I use are Facebook, Watsapp, MyCafe game (I have already tried uninstalling it to see if it's causing the problem). My device is not rooted and there are no modification. I am using this phone as I got it new. Thanks!
For few days it was working fine. Now, I was facing the same issue again so I tried to do a factory reset. Now when I tried to boot it up for the first time, I was setting up the Google Account, I didn't remember my password so I first changed it using my PC and then tried to sign in on my phone but now it's always saying "please sign in using one of the owners accounts for this device". I tried to google it but all of it ended up giving me a solution that I have to wait 72 hours because there has been some Google Security or something? I don't understand. Please help!
sounds to me like the battery is dying/dead. i would certainly open up an inquiry to motorola to see if they can get you a new battery. doesn't hurt to ask.
jco23 said:
sounds to me like the battery is dying/dead. i would certainly open up an inquiry to motorola to see if they can get you a new battery. doesn't hurt to ask.
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I had to encrypt the device and it's back to life now. But still, the issue is still there. The phone still shuts down automatically as soon as I take off the charger. It's weird that when I don't face this problem, I get day and a half battery backup which is totally normal to me. Do you think it still can be a bad battery problem?
No one?
Are you using custom rom or stock one?
mubaidr said:
Are you using custom rom or stock one?
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I am on Stock ROM.
It's never too late
sh_obaid said:
I am on Stock ROM.
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Hi Sh-Obaid!
Although this is a pretty old post, but I have just faced the same problem with my droid turbo as you were facing exactly a year ago. I am pretty sure that you must have ditched the droid turbo by now, but still I am curious to know if you finally found out the actual problem or some solution. Please share your experience as it can help me to fix my paperweight (almost dyeing turbo).
It keeps turning off during boot-up or android running mode within a few minutes after the charger is removed. But, it can stay 'on' for several hours in recovery mode (due to which I doubt that battery is dyeing) and also shows Good Battery status in the boot-loader mode. I have done factory reset and even re-installation of the stock rom but neither worked for me.
Any input from you would be highly appreciated - Thanks!

Note 8 Battery Drain.

Have a Note 8 that was draining the battery real fast all the sudden. It's on android 9. I would charge it to 100, let it sit with screen off and in about 30min. it was down 59%. This kept happening. One day it went down to 0% and didn't charge anymore. So I changed the battery. It did the same thing. Depleted too fast. When it went down to 0%, again phone would not turn on nor charge again. This is what I have gone thru so far with this phone:
Replaced the battery 3 times.
Replaced the charging port flex cable
Tried several Samsung chargers
Wipe data/factory reset X2
Wiped cache X2
No apps are on the phone.
Even with all that the batteries still drain quickly. If they go to 0%, phone won't charge again. Phone will not turn on and charge until I put a new battery replacement in it-only for it to drain fast.
The only thin I have not replaced was the logic board. Could this be a logic board issue or software issue?
prahsper said:
Have a Note 8 that was draining the battery real fast all the sudden. It's on android 9. I would charge it to 100, let it sit with screen off and in about 30min. it was down 59%. This kept happening. One day it went down to 0% and didn't charge anymore. So I changed the battery. It did the same thing. Depleted too fast. When it went down to 0%, again phone would not turn on nor charge again. This is what I have gone thru so far with this phone:
Replaced the battery 3 times.
Replaced the charging port flex cable
Tried several Samsung chargers
Wipe data/factory reset X2
Wiped cache X2
No apps are on the phone.
Even with all that the batteries still drain quickly. If they go to 0%, phone won't charge again. Phone will not turn on and charge until I put a new battery replacement in it-only for it to drain fast.
The only thin I have not replaced was the logic board. Could this be a logic board issue or software issue?
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To rule out it being a software/firmware problem update it if you can or if you can't update then downgrade but stay with the same bootloader version.. If it does it after doing that then it's 100 percent a hardware problem.
Both my wife and I have Verizon Note 8s. We received the June patch a few days ago and have experienced SEVERE battery drain. In the battery usage stats there is no application that seems to be causing the drain. We've not had these phones very long (maybe 16-18 mo) and believe this is absolutely related to the June 2020 security update. I'm not sure if this issue is specific to the Verizon version of the patch or if this would affect more Note 8s. I'm just trying to find proof that it was the update.
I am a tech so yes I did the repair myself. Just looking for a second opinion on this. I bought the batteries from amazon and had a good condition battery from an old Note 8 repair leftover.
However, I cannot do anything more as far as testing because I need to purchase another battery. That is the only way to get the phone back on because like I mentioned once the battery drains out phone doesn't charge anymore unless I put a new battery in. As long as I don't let the phone drain to 0% I can keep using it and charging it.
But for now to do any of the tests mentioned here I would need to get another battery first.
prahsper said:
I am a tech so yes I did the repair myself. Just looking for a second opinion on this. I bought the batteries from amazon and had a good condition battery from an old Note 8 repair leftover.
However, I cannot do anything more as far as testing because I need to purchase another battery. That is the only way to get the phone back on because like I mentioned once the battery drains out phone doesn't charge anymore unless I put a new battery in. As long as I don't let the phone drain to 0% I can keep using it and charging it.
But for now to do any of the tests mentioned here I would need to get another battery first.
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Some of the phones that would drain to 0 wouldn't charge again and Samsung was replacing the batteries in those ones but some people have been able to get them to charge again so if you have a wireless charger put the phone on BOTH the wireless charger AND the wired cable charger and leave it over night and it may or may not work but you have nothing to lose so..
Well I have found the issue and only issue. It was the logic board. The power IC chip is bad. After purchasing and connecting the new logic board everything on this note 8 is working perfectly. Battery charges, holds its charge like it supposed to. Battery drain is gone. And I can let the battery drain to 0% and charge it up again with no problem. So eventually, when I get the time, I will replace the power IC on the bad board. But for now, all is good.
Thanks to you all for your assistance.
prahsper said:
Phone will not turn on and charge until I put a new battery replacement in it-only for it to drain fast.
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What exactly do you mean when you say "put a new battery replacement in"? You mean that you have opened the phone and put in new batteries? How did you put it back together? It is supposed to be sealed, and many things can go wrong after opening the enclosure.
Master_yoda said:
What exactly do you mean when you say "put a new battery replacement in"? You mean that you have opened the phone and put in new batteries? How did you put it back together? It is supposed to be sealed, and many things can go wrong after opening the enclosure.
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Instead of for someone typing out the answer to that just go to YouTube and search for Samsung Galaxy Note 8 battery replacement and you'll see the entire process!
MrMike2182 said:
Instead of for someone typing out the answer to that just go to YouTube and search for Samsung Galaxy Note 8 battery replacement and you'll see the entire process!
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My comment was not so much about the process, but about the result. Or shall I say consequences of the action? If one opens the seal, replaces the battery (not just once, but several times) and then complains about the battery not working normally is in my opinion a bit cheeky.

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