Upgrading WM5 on i-Mate PDA2k - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

can anyone tell me the performance of WM5 on the i-mate PDA2k, is it slow,, fast?/, just tell me so i upgrade...thx

IMHO, it's unacceptable slow. I downgraded my device to 2003SE back.

No phone after upgrading my i-mate!!
After upgrading to WM5 my phone don't work anymore:
Error: Unknown SIM Status
Can you help me?
Thanks
Amulet

Well, I must agree that WM5 slows down your PDA... for me its performance was kind of acceptable, but still noticeably slower. Especially if u install many applications.
I was just curious to see how WM5 looks like on my MDA III and how it works, but I haven't been satisfied with the results (slower and active sync couldn't recognise device)
so I downgraded it back to 2003SE. For now I think I'll wait a bit more to see how things with WM5 and this device will develop.
If u know why and what are u doing than u can try to upgrade, but imho if it ain't broken... :wink:

Re: No phone after upgrading my i-mate!!
amulet_es said:
After upgrading to WM5 my phone don't work anymore:
Error: Unknown SIM Status
Can you help me?
Thanks
Amulet
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I was (really I am who knows if it will arise again) having this same problem. Have made a follow up to the problem and it seems like the error reproduces if you take the battery out of the device.
I was able to have SIM service again (after many attempts) by resseting it.
I thought it was a problem with my SIM (its already 4 years old). Is yous as old as mine?
Please note my device model.

ammar503 said:
can anyone tell me the performance of WM5 on the i-mate PDA2k, is it slow,, fast?/, just tell me so i upgrade...thx
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I think it will depend on the kind of device you own. On my PDA2k (BlueAngel) WM5 runs even faster than 2003SE.
Some minor problems, though... :roll:

Agree with arieltools as my Orange M2000 (ba) runs perfectly acceptable.

vishny said:
IMHO, it's unacceptable slow. I downgraded my device to 2003SE back.
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Hm-m... Today I'm not sure. I've just tried again and have found that just flashed wm5 works pretty fast, almost like 2k3se. I suppose it becomes slow after some software is installed, maybe spb pocketplus 3.0 ore something... It's very important to make some hacks.
I switched registry to file mode, turned off animation and GUI sounds.
For more information try to search forum about tweaks2k2 wm5.

vishny said:
Today I'm not sure. I've just tried again and have found that just flashed wm5 works pretty fast, almost like 2k3se.
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Yep, I agree with that. Just flashed WM5 worked really great for me, but than again, sync didn't work (yep, i could reinstall XP, coz i know that AS will work in that case) and as soon as I upped some software from other pc, WM5 started to sink... Just to explain, applications worked relatively fast when they started, but getting to them (start - programs etc.) was really slow.
If anyone has good performance results with MDA III (T-Mobile) and WM5 (with some applications on it) i would like to hear about that.

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BlueAngel WM5 on FTP!

There is a file pda2K_2k5.rar on FTP that contains the WM5 ROM for BlueAngel. Origin of the file is unknown, flashing it to my device showed that it is really a WM5 ROM that is working. The OS version is 5.1.1700 build 14343, it has MS bluetooth stack and no camera. The camera drivers are present, so I think it would be possible to extract app from Himalaya ROM.
It has no MMS application and no SIM toolkit.
I've repartitioned DOC, so now I have 61Mb storage area and 128Mb RAM that are fully accessible.
All hardware buttons are working, and the keyboard is working fine, though there is no control panel applet that allows you to turn off its backlight.
Making hardreset is tricky - you have to press camera, record, power and reset buttons simultaneously. There you'll have a choice to use debugger (something about KITL), reset registry and format built-in storage. Navigation in menu is done with camera and record buttons, exit - "mail" button.
Thanks download now .
great it working thanks
So glad I worked late tonight...
Unbelievable! :shock:
Awesome etc.
I think the simplest thing to say is: THANK YOU!
That will not stop me from buying a native WM5 PDAphone like the Universal or the Wizard, but still I'm really happy this happened. If only that could force O2, I-Mate, Qtek etc. to sell an official upgrade, that would be nice...
Until now, I had to put my BA in reserve and used my XDAII for everyday for a single problem: BT!!! Maybe the MS stack here will do as good as the one in my XDAII 1.72. Just need my GPS and headset to work properly. The rest is luxury at this point.
BTW, Mamaich, is the procedure similar as the one for Himalaya WM5? Any difference?
Cheers,
Hal
Mamaich, it's time to make tweaking for the camera and especially the O/S speed.. :?
Did someone take down that RAR file? I can't seems to find it anywhere under BA section on the FTP site.
file
uploads/Blueangel
Sweet!! Thank you!!
maybe we can get the mms application from the universal?
sx66
so...i hawe sx66 from cingular (not locked) rom version 1.33.10 wwe can i upgrade with pda2K_2k5.rar ROM or not...and what i get with that i meen with pocket2005 ? can someone tell me...im new here and i will be gracefull to answer me...
10x
ps. blueangel rulz
Silly Question Really
Buzz Do you think you will be able to get this Rom 2005 Rom to work with Alpine (XDA 2i)
Re: Silly Question Really
Studulike said:
Buzz Do you think you will be able to get this Rom 2005 Rom to work with Alpine (XDA 2i)
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It would not work on any device other than BA.
maybe we can get the mms application from the universal?
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At first we need a ROM image rom Universal or better an official ROM update.
unbelievable brother mamaich...but its true... :lol:
Erm...
This is not the same file as on Buzzdev.net is it?
The version is different.
Think I'd have better luck with this one?
Hi Mamaich,
I installed WM5.0 on my PDA2k but unlike you, i only got 49MB storage space. How is it that you got 61MB while i got only 49MB. What did i do wrong?
Also, why am i not able to synchronise with outlook after the rom upgrade?
Thirdly, i can pair my BT headset with my PDA2k but it does not transfer any calls to the headset. I tried using a BT GPS and that works perfectly fine. What do u suppose the problem is?
Would appreciate your comments.
UD.
Has anyone here yet or not weather or not this will work with Sprint or Verizon CDMA phones yet?
Wherez the ROM on the FTP, i searched but i couldnt find it. Its not under BA. Where is it? Is it different from the one that Buzz had on his site?
UD.
wesley762 said:
Has anyone here yet or not weather or not this will work with Sprint or Verizon CDMA phones yet?
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Still no luck with VZW CDMA, and I haven't heard of a successful case yet.
Yes, the file is the same as the one on Buzz's site.
ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/
Hi all
I´ve searched the registry with no luck at all... Is there anyway to lower the backlight brightness? Cause like this it drains the battery really fast! Rudra was right :?
Hey btw i´ve tried my Bt headset and it works better than before!! at least i can go like 5 - 6 meters from my phone and still hear the caller

Upgrade 1.42 and ext. rom problem

I upgraded my device to 1.42 eng. but after finished, extended rom files are not installing, device is stopping . Then when i try to install them manuel not working can somene help me
I tested the 1.42 NL version and it worked pretty much ok. Try maybe to upgrade again. I have the Pda2k and I am back to the I-mate 1.40 firmware. I think something went wrong when you updated. Just do it again - it should work.
Posting from the PDA2K.
downgrade
why did you go back to 1.40 from 1.42?
obiesoft:
I didn't like the T-mobile ExtRom and I didn't know how to write to it at the moment.
Also, I thought that the phone app is a bit slow (and I hated the flat skin).
Meanwhile, I got the xdatools and I edited the extrom.
The I-Mate extrom has the autosetup, no config.txt needed. It works pretty well with the 1.13 radio.
Though, I have some problems with the BT and a Motorola HS805 headset. It's crackling all the time. But I think that there's no solution for this problem.
RELOAD, have you flashed again? Did you solve the problem?
1.42
I apologize for not replying earlier. I switched from WM5 to the 1.42 Rom and i like it so far. It is so much faster and responsive compared to WM5, keyboard works well and bluetooth is ok. I also get the Crackling noise, i use HBH 300. I have been seeing threads about an I mate Bluetooth fix but all the links to it are broken, so i guess that is what we need now. Until i test it, i will not know. I understand what you mean by the flat look, WM5 looks better but it is not as good as WM2003 for regular use, as for looks, just switch up themse.
obiesoft
I'm sorry for the delayed answer, but I'm not always on the forums...
I only heard about an I-mate patch, but if you mean this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14277, it's old (2004) and I've seen only a few people asking for the files.
I am now running the i-mate last rom with 1.13 radio and BT 3900. The extended rom contains a cab called BTsearchTime.sa.cab.
I'm not sure about it does, but I'm sure that it's already posted on the forums or on the ftp .
About WM5, I read many threads where people complaint about the speed. I decided not to try it, instead I set my HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\Cachesize to 4096, and I installed all the programs in the storage card (1 GB).
The performance was really boosted, at the expense of 4 MB of memory, but I have plenty of it, because I don't have to share too much with the storage.
I also use SPBPocketPlus 3, but just for the Closing App, Safe Mode, and rotation shortcuts. Otherwise, SPB Plus makes the PDA unusable - it consumes many resources. Pocket Hack master provides me the overclok/underclok possibilities, so, if I use the BA only as a phone, I keep it at 199 MHz.
Moderator: I'm not sure if this fits here, but... please don't kill me!

WM5 vs WM 2003SE on O2 XDA IIs

i have read the postings on the upgrade of WM5 on the Blue Angel device..
what i would like to know is what will WM5 do for me that WM 2003SE won't... are there any real benefits.. and do all the functions still work... wifi, gprs, phone etc..
i'm using the 1.40 ROM and don't really have that many problems..
every now and then the device resets by itself.. if i open the inbox, or change the phone on/off... otherwise it seems to run great.
is there any speed increase in using WM5 ??
any benefits in wifi or GPRS and emails ??
thanks..
hi
I had the opportunity to test WM5 in my himalaya device...
It wont be so different than yours but here is my 2 cents:
-Slower than WM2003SE
like 80% of WM2003 speed
-sometimes the cellphone rings once but for the other party is the 3rd or 4th ring.
-Lot of software bugs and incompatibilities.
bugs with camera and MMS
Camera= worse than the WM2003 one
MMS= I can send but when I receive, the page is blank (no objects, sounds, pics)
I just return to WM2003SE
Yes, is ugly than WM5 but is better, bug-less
hope this helps you.
Anyway, you can try WM5 and If you dont like it, go back to WM2003SE again, well at least work for me that way.
Same 2 Me...
I just get back to 2003SE...
But I miss the look of WM5
I'm back to 2003SE too!
The only thing i miss of WM5 is the Persistance Storage.
2003 gets my vote for now
I'm back to 2003, I ran several versions of the WM5 roms from Maimach. I can say that WM5 is fun, cool and all that but I didn't see any reason to stay with it. The persistent storage thing can be solved for me by backing up my contacts and appointments to a SD card along with the main apps I use on a daily basis on my SD card. Then when I lose power, I just reload the backup of my contacts database, re-load the apps from my SD card and I'm back up and running in just a few minutes. The speed and reliability were the two main reasons I came back. I ran WM5 for at least 6 weeks so I know I gave it a fair shot. I've found that I only use my phone for a few things:
1. Email
2. Phone (duh!)
3. Mp3 player (TCPMP)
4. Limited internet (google/froogle/weather/movie times/news/etc)
5. A few games when I'm stuck in traffic. =)
None of these functions were necessarily performed better in WM5, most of them actually were quite a bit slower but I decided to live with it because I was on WM5!!!
After going back to 2003 (1.42 rom) I was SHOCKED at how much faster it was. I had gotten so used to the sluggish performance of WM5 that I had forgotten what it was like to answer the phone on the first ring, watch outlook email open immediately instead of "within a few seconds" and not have skips when I listen to mp3's. Don't get me wrong, I TRULY appreciate the work Maimach and others are doing to get wm5 on our devices but it's more of a developers toy right now than an actual OS replacement for our devices. When they get a version of WM5 that's written for the xScale processor I think we'll see a HUGE difference.
For now, I'm back to 2k3 and not dissappointed at all.
Me 2
I am also back to 2k3 three weeks ago after 1 morning running 2k5.
Re: 2003 gets my vote for now
dmelton75 said:
For now, I'm back to 2k3 and not dissappointed at all.
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Which version of ROM 2k3SE did you use...
I'm using 1.42.... Some times when someone call me, the name not show...even that number already in my phone book....
Thanks
i have used windos mobile 5 since the first version on this forum (yep with all bugs and no camera) i have tried all upgrades and versions. and i have all most satisfied with the wizard version (v2) its really more faster. but i onlgy have no problems if i dont use my BA . some times i don´t have fone, other time don´t have sms, mms. lots off crash, with gps and tomtom navigator very instability, every time i put some software in today screen, the BA crash.. etc. etc..
now i have finaly go back to 2003 (version 1.42) and use wall memory (like wb5) use the wisbar advance 2 and my Ba its great.. but i still come here to see if there is some advance in stability on the wb5 .
when the ppl off this forum "bill" a windows mobil 5 running at 95% i reflash my rom again
thanks guys for everything

Device Lock from Tuma WM5 ROM for WM2003SE?

Hey all,
I had to downgrade back to WM2003 from WM5 due to speed issues, and while things are fine, I find that I really miss the device lock button on the today screen.
Can someone grab the CAB for that and throw it on the FTP server?
Thanks!
would be nice if we could use that on wm2003se
So it won't run on 2003SE?
i don't know
i just wanna say i would like that on my ba with wm2003se
TuMa 1.3 causes unregular Resets on my MDA. So I tried the "BA WM2005 5.03.02WWE - standard upgrade" from Buzzdev.net. Works fne for me. But I´d like the Device lock and the Bat Meter, too. I found no place to download. Any Ideas?
No, it is not going to work. Code compiled to WM5 is not going to run under 2003SE (only the other way around).
i do need that cab
cam aNy one put it here :?:
KTamas said:
No, it is not going to work. Code compiled to WM5 is not going to run under 2003SE (only the other way around).
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I had kind of half-figured that. Oh well. Thanks!

What is the best ROm for Qtek 9100/K-JAM

Hello everybody,
Could you please tell me what is the best ROM for my qtek 9100? I am crazy !!!!! I am not able to know it?
Thank you in advance.
esfjrg1 said:
Hello everybody,
Could you please tell me what is the best ROM for my qtek 9100? I am crazy !!!!! I am not able to know it?
Thank you in advance.
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Define "best" for us and I'm sure you'll get many suggestions.
If you are looking for Direct Push mail, either of the released AKU2 ROMs will work fine. Who's your carrier?
The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.
indiekiduk said:
The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.
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Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
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araje said:
indiekiduk said:
The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.
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Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
Anup
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it's a long story to tell.
i suggest you search "rom backup" herein and collect all that you need.
huangyz said:
araje said:
Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
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it's a long story to tell.
i suggest you search "rom backup" herein and collect all that you need.
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Thanks huangyz for your reply. My question was very generic since I was still in the deciding stage at that time. I have just finalized my order for Qtek 9100 today. Are you using the updated PushEmail ROM for Qtek ? Hows your experience on the stability. When I spoke to the store guys, 2 of them told me that this version is still unstable. Hows your experience been.
Thanks
araje said:
Thanks huangyz for your reply. My question was very generic since I was still in the deciding stage at that time. I have just finalized my order for Qtek 9100 today. Are you using the updated PushEmail ROM for Qtek ? Hows your experience on the stability. When I spoke to the store guys, 2 of them told me that this version is still unstable. Hows your experience been.
Thanks
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yes,im using the newest 2.17.7.2wwe rom,it's really stable and fast , even with the omapclock set to 240MHz. my Qtek9100 has been running for several days without a restart . think this would be the contribution of the AKU2 thing.
i don't use pushemail, so, no suggest about it.
another thing i must say is that by now i have only the SPB-GPRS-Monitor plugging installed, no other Today-Addons. 'cause i need to confirm which PPC utilities would have a conflict against this new rom. I am planning to install Resco-Explorer this weekend.
Hope this could help you.
as a reference, i
hi there huangyz!
Did you ever try the Qtek Test ROM 2.8.7.1 WWE before going to 2.17.7.2 ? Would you say 2.17 performs better [without Overclocking] than 2.8? I loaded 2.8 because I wanted A2DP for BT and as I understand it 2.17 does not have A2DP, I won't be using Push E-Mail. So I am deciding if I should flash to 2.17 or stay with 2.8 and wait for another ROM.
Just to endorse Huangyz comments, I'm running the new QTEK 2.17.7.2 ROM as well and it's very very stable (I use the OMAP at 240 as well). Am using the SPB Pocket Plus on it with no issues - can't remember the last time it was hanging needing soft reset. For some odd reason I also no longer have issues with Activesync failing every few synchs but that may be unrelated.
you are probably right with it being unrelated. for me I haven't been having AS issues even with the dopod shipped ROM or the Qtek Test ROM. Can you shed some light on performance without Overclocking or would you say that overclocking is a must [I am not sure if I am ready to trade off the device's uptime for a slight increase in performance]. With the Test ROM when I listen to MP3s using BT A2DP and then try to do something else [i.e. compose an sms or type a short note/document]... the device becomes slow as a snail and it is very annoying...
huangyz said:
yes,im using the newest 2.17.7.2wwe rom,it's really stable and fast , even with the omapclock set to 240MHz. my Qtek9100 has been running for several days without a restart . think this would be the contribution of the AKU2 thing.
i don't use pushemail, so, no suggest about it.
another thing i must say is that by now i have only the SPB-GPRS-Monitor plugging installed, no other Today-Addons. 'cause i need to confirm which PPC utilities would have a conflict against this new rom. I am planning to install Resco-Explorer this weekend.
Hope this could help you.
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Hi,
I have heard alot about omapclock and about overclocking the device. I know that it shouldnt be overclocked beyond a specific limit as it may make the device unstable. But, forgive me, I had a very basic question here. What does this omapclock do ? I know it can speed up the device but it will always be at the cost of something isnt it ? So whats the trade-off here.
Hi to all, here goes my First post
Greetings from sunny Europe..
That be one..
As far as Omap. It does exactly to Wizard what overclocking front bus to CPU in PC.
Increases clock frequency that controls the cpu/ and possibly memory.
I am not programmer of this software (omap), but usually a several settings are connected together, like speed of cpu, memory, and possibly of some other subsystem like GPU (graphic card in wizard)
BTW Thanks to guys that made omap, great piece.. i am succesfully using it and clock of 240 is where i start
My current machine(wizard) is SPV M3000 From Orange on latest official Qteq rom.
i have all kinds of observations about it, (both phone and rom) but for now i'll keep it to myself as they ALL (i guess) come from my craze od d/l stuff and installing on my wizard with no brains at all
Thus far (getting back to tradeoffs and performance..)
O/C with omap is a necessity if u want to listen to high quality mp3 and be able to use anything else on wizard.
my experienc is that using pocket music (great mp3 player) with high bit rate mp3 heavy eq applied, completely freezes any action and reaction on wiz. and even turning down volume can take about 5 to 10 seconds after pressing touchscreen..
with omap applied cpu usage drops to around 70% and it behaves ok.
As far as uptime.. i have noticed no difference even with HEAVY overclock.
most battery consuming i think is: 1. WiFi, 2. loud music with high bitrate mp3 and built in speakers, 3. BT, or brightness turned on all the time(no screen saver) .. whatever the rest may be..
So if i am not mistaken cpu in wizard have 2 cores, one for DSP and phone processing, the other one for OS WM5. now i am thinking.. dynamic allocation of unused phone core to main processing power..for the os.?
Mmm 400 mhz for my wizard.. Me likin' it
..that's as far as my dreams go..
Greetings to all and i hope this place stays as cool and essential for all of us.. 4evA
bnycastro said:
hi there huangyz!
Did you ever try the Qtek Test ROM 2.8.7.1 WWE before going to 2.17.7.2 ? Would you say 2.17 performs better [without Overclocking] than 2.8? I loaded 2.8 because I wanted A2DP for BT and as I understand it 2.17 does not have A2DP, I won't be using Push E-Mail. So I am deciding if I should flash to 2.17 or stay with 2.8 and wait for another ROM.
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sure, i try 2.8.7.1WWE-Test for nearly 2weeks. I took no advantage of A2DP because i rarely listen mp3s using my qtek.
i have no impression on this test rom now, except that i had to reset at least once per day.
Thanks for the info. I was wondering if I go with the 2.17 ROM can I downgrade to 2.8.7.1?

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