WIDCOMM on 8125 - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Before you even start tellin me that this question has been posted many times, read through...
I know we went through this few times but I just haven't found the clear answer.
The question is simple: can I use WIDCOMM on 8125? Or maybe someone knows a better way of communication between 8125 and LEGO NXT brick?
Any help will be appreciated.
Many thanks...

Your problem won't be the bluetooth stack. I don't believe that the NXT software can run on WM. If it does, then it should be a simple matter to pair with the LEGO device.

I know that NXT soft won't run on PPC... What I'm trying to do is to send BT message from NXT to the phone and vice versa. I know it works with simple Sony Ericsson, yet it does not want to work with my 8125.
The NXT box clearly says that the NXT brick supports WIDCOMM stack only.
My phone found the brick and the only available service is COM port. When the NXT sends the message it gets an error. When I do it all the way around ie. I pair NXT with the phone I get the same message...
Simply because I'm curious I'll ask: does anyone own or have acces to play with LEGO NXT?

you might have better luck using a more open version of BT with a phone such as the 6515 by iPaq, or the upgraded version. I've noticed that some of the BT options on the 8125 seem to be hidden, or restricted, unlike the iPaq versions (more protocols show up when paring, etc, with the HP). I'm not sure if Cingular is pulling a VZW move here with restricting BT profiles included in their phone... because that would be aweful.
That might explain your WIDCOMM issues.

the newer hps also use the widcomm stack I believe

Indeed. I've had HP 6515 and it did have WIDCOMM. However, I couldn't live with 240x240 screen resolution...
I've found some clues pointing that there is a way to somehow hack the registry and upload some crazy files in 8125 so that it uses WIDCOMM. However, the place I found it warned about some legal issues connected with this... (not that I care about it that much :twisted: )
Anyone has some more clues?

Then what I would say is that the widcomm stack on the 8125 is rather burried, or non-existant in the usable format that you'll need. If you do find a way to modify it so I can use things such as FTP File Transfer across BT, that would be excellent to post, especially if it could be incorp into a cab for easy installation.
Please, keep me informed of your discoveries - I'll see what I can dig up but you seem to know where to look more so than I.

As a former Treo700 user, I've followed the Widcomm transplant threads with some interest. However, like cold fusion, some have reported wild success but the results have been hard to duplicate.... :wink:
However, this may have changed by now since I ditched my 700 for an 8125 almost 6 months ago.

Related

Bluetooth patch from club-imate!!!!! finally is here!!!!!

Hi to all!!!!!
finally patch are available!!!
I haven't yet tried, but tomorrow i will post my impression!
Ciao, ilVanni.
argh!!!
the patch was removed from website!!!! The support told me that are only a website test...
... it's back....
same file to download.
Specification of fix:
"i-mate™ is aware of the problems being experienced with the i-mate™ PDA2k Bluetooth. We are delivering a compete fix in two stages. The first patch increases the scan time of the i-mate™ PDA2k when searching for other nearby Bluetooth devices, thus improving other devices detectability. It should be used by customers regularly bonding with other distant devices. If the required devices are not identified after this extended period, pressing the scan again button will repeat the search. The second part of the fix will be released shortly and will improve the signal quality when using audio headsets. "
Great Thanks... I'm waiting for this patch!!!! The second one, I mean....
Now all we need is the A2DP profile supported and I will really start loving my MDAIII... I just got my B-Speech headset yesterday... didn't have much time to play with it yet though... I'd really like to get these HP bluetooth headphones too...
Treo
Yahoo!
but these 2 patches doesnt address the memory error message where the bluetooth fails to turn on... or am i missing something?
It does not address the device turning itself on all the time either. It is a joke. They are not fixing the things that are really broken.
yup i think they dont know how to fix it! ahhhhhhh refund refund! how can they even release the blueangel with such a flaw, how can their engineer miss that , did they not use their own creation for more than 15 minutes, they would hav saw the error msg
May not be IMate's fault...... of course they could have probably stuck with the lousy MS BT Stack.. might be less problems.. but anyway.. Its the OS..Remember the 32 process limitation that's still there? well. there is also a limitation on driver memroy.. I found this link that might help..
http://www.pocketfms.com/2-knownissues.htm
"The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to Insufficient driver memory available. Especially in PocketPC 2003 the Bluetooth Manager has been equipped with a lot of extra options like File Transfer, Audio Gateway and so on. If you go to Bluetooth settings and disable all services except for the Bluetooth serial port, a lot more driver memory will be available. Furthermore it's best to turn the Bluetooth radio on (and sometimes to connect to the GPS, configuration depending) prior to starting PocketFMS."
Doesn't fix the problem.. but its probably the same problem across the board for a number of devices out there..
Do a Search on Google for pocketpc "driver memory" .. you'll notice we're not alone... Then check the newsgroups.. the xda IIs has the same issue : http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...%22&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&sa=N&scoring=d
"disable all services except for the Bluetooth serial port, a lot more driver memory will be available"
THAT IS NOT TRUE, I tried to disable EVERYTHING and ONLY headset profile left and it still gives the error just as often. Sucks..... SUCKS...
umm.. U DON'T HAVE TO YELL AT PEOPLE.. All I was trying to do was pass along any information that might help the situation.... Also, make note that IMate is the only device to experience these issues.. HP and Ipaqs have the same issues....
I for one have not had any major problems with the bluetooth driver(knock on wood). I turn it on and off a lot and only rarely do I see the driver memory issue. However, I do see it more often when I turn on/off the WLAN driver for wireless access. I also tend to use GPRS a lot and have not had issues with the bluetooth with GPRS. I also use a bluetooth GPS unit... I have it bonded to an Sony Bluetooth HB-35 headset as well.
lol sorry, it wasnt yelling, i was actually just making main points bold... we are all suffering from this issue it's time for them to fix it.
Complaining to Carrier Devices will help a little...but the key point here is that this goes beyond them.. I think it has more to do with Microsoft and Broadcom(they bought widcomm). Microsoft and their stupid limitations on the pocketpc operating system and Broadcom committing to enhancing their widcomm drivers so as to not use heaping loads of memory..
I agree it needs to get fixed.. however, these fixes will take time and sometimes might take months to fix as you can see from all the other issues revolving around the Ipaqs...
I've got the same problems with the T-Mobile MDAIII - not enought driver memory, turns itself on, licence has expired, rebonding. These things really should have been sorted before now, considering that for the last twelve months we've all put up with similar problems on the XDAII.
This should fix the license expiry for the Imate. I received it via email from their tech support.. according to their tech support.. you can choose any of the key addresses...They sent it to me even though I never received the license expiry issue.
As for constantly turning on.. read someone on Howardforums on a possible workaround -> http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...50658&threadid=495366&perpage=15&pagenumber=2
Firebird, forgive me if this seems stupid, but what do i do with the file you posted after unziping it? Do i run it on my pda once or what....???? have no idea... THANKS. :shock:
Don't know if it works on an XDAIII.. but copy both files to the IMate PDA2k and run the executable.. then choose any address to update it.. I just chose each and every address and updated all of them..
and this will fix the license expired error msg on the pda2k ???
That is what its supposed to do. still wont' fix the driver memory issue.... I haevn't seen the license expiry issue ever since i applied the patch..

I DID IT!!

Woo-hoo!
I have finished the multiple hour process of doing the ROM and extended ROM upgrade!!! I am so proud of myself and had no one else to tell who would understand what the heck I meant - so I'm posting it here for my own personal pat on the back!!
Although I do think there is a need for re-writes for the BA incompetent because I accomplished this using wiki, here, and the BA standardization project yet still came across a few glitches....don't know how i figured them out but I guess after spending four days reading message boards and taking notes something must have stuck up there!! Also, it seems as if I had to piece meal the extended ROM update - which makes me hope I did it right but one of the places I downloaded it from was missing all the nbf files??
BUT....who cares now!!! I'm just excited I finally got it done. Now I can relax and have a drink or few and tomorrow start looking into the current radio update and the BT updates....but quick question....not that I am being lazy - but are they really necessary if I am not using a BT headset, and rarely use BT for anything else? After all the problems people had I just got a wired headset and can't even think about WM5.0 till they fix the sound issues for the SX66 - variable ringtones is an absolute must! Also, I rarely (like once a month) use the internet on this device so do I need the radio upgrade?
Another issue - can anyone explain why after doing hard resets active sync makes you set up a new paternership? I don't mind since it still ends up giving me all my Outlook info - but just was wondering why?
Well....off to do hubby's - hopefully his will take less time!! :roll:
THANKS to all who have contributed to XDA forums, wiki, and the BA standardization project - I couldn't have done it without your info, insight and problems you experienced!!! :lol:
not 100% sure, but I think the HR makes the thing reset everything... and... well..
I always change the name of my device...
And it tries to call itself PockePC again...
And the computer doesn't like that.
But if I change the name back to whatever it was and connect to the computer it tells me the name is in use. And that's annoying...
Before you slap that sucker back in the cradle, go to AS, FILE, Delete Partnership (you'll have about 100 from the way I read your post ) And... Well... Re-set it up using whatever name you wanted to use that it wouldn't let you.
And... if you're already doing this and are just wondering why it's necessary, look at the name of the software manufacturer and I'm certain you'll see the reason for your dificulty

Windows Mobile 5 - why do it?

Hi all,
Just got myself an O2 XDA(ii). I have heard people banging on about WM5 and how I should upgrade the OS.
However, one question - why do it?
What will I gain by doing the upgrade?
Will it consume more system resources and therefore have an overhead performance?
What woes will be introduced by upgrading - will it break anything?
Is WM5 really as stable as WM3?
I hope I can get answers to these questions!!
Many thanks!
why use windows when dos works fine?
Windows is a GUI, dos is a CLI.
Both human interfaces are radically different.
The questions I posed are reasonable.
Try this..
borrow a WM5 device from someone for a day and dont use ur WM2003 device.
If u like something in that device, install WM5 on your BA and test it, try it
I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
consumption of system resources
bugs
reliability
speed
new system features
security
power management
etc...
WM5 VS WM3
Hi,
It is a true question,
- I have just used WM5 a week. So I hope my experience will be useful for you.
Fist, the WM5 store all data on it's ROM so you won't lost you data example: instaled program in device, contacts, SMS, MMS... if it run out of energy, hard reset... But, that causes the speed is slower than official WM2003 Version 1.42.
It still remain some bugs example: sometime freeze when you turn it on, BT and wifi sometime need a softreset to turn on.
The energy consumsion is the same (waiting phone mode). Others depend on backlight, % CPU usage.
Certainly WM5 have much more feature. I really don't known what I should advice you now because I still often reset 1-2 time/day like my laptop. But I don't like thing which is the same forever expecialy softwares.
I hope you can have your answer.
Daeljan said:
I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
consumption of system resources
bugs
reliability
speed
new system features
security
power management
etc...
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Thank you very much for that answer!
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy. I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
If anyone else would like to add something of similar content to this thread, I'd be very happy to read about it.
Cheers.
This is xda-developers so the question of why use WM5 on BA sort of answers itself by the simple fact that M$ has not given it to us in the first place (well this could also not be true as M$ did make a copy but none of the providers gave us a rom so that we all go out and by a new WM5 Device).
So why not? In the long run its more of a matter of taste, some have gone for and stayed with the WM5 on a BA, others have gone back and others have gone and brought a REAL WM5 device.
Its up to you, if you read the threads (of which there are many) you will find reasons to stay away and reasons to install it. Like I say its sort of personal.
Oh yes DOS was and is cool, still to this day I use it.
Dude
why don't you just flash to WM5 try it out
Dude
why don't you just flash to WM5 try it out, and if you don't like it go back 2k3, makes the most sense. You seem like a smart chap i'm sure you can figure it out, no harm to the device, and you'll get all your answers bra
My two cents if you like command line and stability learn linux, bash away!
Daeljan said:
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Hi Daeljan,
Welcome to the community! I'm sorry if some of the guys answered like that, but you have to understand that this question pops in from newbies every couple days "Why shall I do it?", "What's the difference", etc... So some of us just get tired of answering!
I am sure however, that you'll find many extremely interesting, highly technical threads.
So, to answer your question: WM2K+3 vs WM5
- I believe that part of doing it was actually to try to see it could be done, I mean the operators left us with an exceptional device (the BlueAngel) without upgrade, so many of us felt "betrayed" and wanted to get the latest, and greatest despite the lack of official support for a release.
- The LATEST version of WM5 (Helmi v3.2) is much more stable that the early versions, I'm currently running it and never think about downgrading back to WM2K3. Amongst the things I find interesting:
- The OS is almost as fast as WM2K3, in fact I run all most of the new versions of software flawlessly.
- WM5 has flat memory and no sharing between the "Storage" and "Execution" spaces (Which is something you will immediately notice on your old OS), so you get more running memory for your applications.
- Because of the above, WM5 has "resilient" storage, i.e. a reset will not erase your data, that alone is a great advantage.
- Some apps that do not run anymore on WM2K3 are now accessible for our community.
- Some applications are natively available on WM5 (Like Mobile PowerPoint) for example, and are not there on WM2K3.
- Better synchronization with your desktop device (You can, for example see your contact pictures directly synchronized, whereas with WM2K3, you can't).
On the other hand, we have a few issues (That are getting fixed with every new release), like:
- Slightly higher power consumption.
- A very, very ugly bluetooth protocol stack... People are doing an amazing job there, and the problem is almost over.
- Other minor issues that you'll discover while browsing the links.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
W.
1) click search, type an abbrevieted version of your first post in it.
2) be swamped with a massive amount of posts ABOUT THE SAME THING.
3) repeat in future.
(sorry if im being a bit harsh but i myself have awnserwed this question many times before, just search in future!)
Thank you all for your answers, and sorry for making you repeat yourselves.
I suppose that this is an obvious topic for discussion that many people naturally want to know about.
So why not post a summary of it all somewhere where people can find it without having to mine the forums? I searched the FAQ for WM5, Upgrade, Windows Mobile 5, in various combinations and nothing came up.
The bluetooth problems are a little scary though if the XDA is to be used as a GPS, connected to the antenna via bluetooth.
Anyhow, thanks again.
Hic
You can try, it is easy to downgrade, not compelex as in the instruction.
1. Change to bootloader mode, connect USB run Ship file,
2. After the instaltion procces finished, softreset your BA.
3. The first start maybe get mistake, cause ExtraRom could be changed, softreset again, your BA will run in a pure state, unhide ExtraROM-softreset, copy all files in the ExtraROM of Ship file (extract from Ship file) to the ExtraROM, you can also change ExtraRom as you want.
4. Hardreset---everything is OK.
Wzaatar
Very nice post you did there old chap, thanks. You almost got me to try it all over again.
I use the ROM in my signature and I find it great apart from the odd problem but that could be from the 50+ apps I have on it.
Go for it...
Daeljan said:
Thank you very much for that answer!
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy. I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
If anyone else would like to add something of similar content to this thread, I'd be very happy to read about it.
Cheers.
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OK, I'll try to give you a different slant on things....
WM5 utilises persistent storage (as stated above) which means that, should you find yourself in the unfortunate position that your BA has run out of juice you'll retain all your data (even the RAMDisk contents contrary to some other peoples posts). This is not the case in WM2003SE. If you let the battery run down in WM2003SE it's adios amigo! And start all over again.
WM2003SE while quite stable, is not perfect, especially once you have several apps installed and use it aggressively. WM5, while technically only in beta for this device (as they are mostly hacked/patched/ported ROM's) can prove to be a very stable platform. I have used nearly every version of WM5 on this forum to try and find the 'right' one... and I use my BA constantly, for business purposes and satnav guidance.
Comparing the 2 OS's is like comparing Windows XP and Vista... XP is a proven system, Vista is not, so direct comparison would be unfair to either... as for performance, with the tweaks now found in the newer WM5 ROM's I find my BA responds as well, if not better, than with WM2003SE, battery consumption is a little higher but that can be resloved with any of the CPU throttling apps available...
I wholeheartedly recommend the AKU 2.6 version of Helmi's ROM. I went away on business recently with WM2003SE installed and while away flashed this version of the ROM. My reason for being back with WM2003SE prior to this was the sluggishness of my BA after a while of running WM5. During my absence the Page Pool fix reared its head and all seemed to be good in the world. While AKU3.2 is the newest version of WM5 it has inherent compatability issues with much of the software available for WM5, even Microsoft's own such as Voice Command (an app I actually make use of!). The AKU2.6 ROM doesn't have these issues, and with the paging fix does not become sluggish at all.
9 weeks on and my system has only frozen once, and that was with a 'hacked' piece of software so I don't blame the system... I have not had to reflash once, and I honestly don't remember having to soft reset... I have yet to find a WM5 compatible app which doesn't work with it, and I use it day in, day out.
In short, I jumped on the WM5 bandwagon some time agao and was very disillsusioned at one point, so much so that I returned to WM2003SE... However I missed the smoother GUI, the much better handling of popups and alerts, the tighter integration with Outlook, the better operation of ActiveSync and so forth, so I came back to the fold, and I will not be downgrading again...
If you use Push Email anything after AKU2 (or is it 2.3?) is a Godsend, and believe me, the overall feel of the OS is much smoother, it feels like a 'pocket pc', rather than a really gucci phone!!
I use my BA to play media, read newsfeeds, browse the web, check/send email, and all the other stuff my mates do on their laptops, and if you have the right settings for your provider there should be no issues with connectivity... I have A2DP set up as well so I have a stereo BT headset for music/video etc... I run TomTom, Garmin Que, OziExplorer...
Oh! And I use it as a PDA/Organiser, my life is on that brick, and believe me, it gets hammered!!
I also have an XDA Exec now and to be honest I prefer the BA... although I do love my IQ (but Smartphone is a whole different kettle of fish)!!
I hope this gratuitous plug of WM5 helps sway your decision
I personally like WM5. The issue for me, and the reason I bought the SX66 in the first place, was screen size and muscle. Alot of the affordable WM5 devices out have small screens compared to what I am used to in a PDA. I cannot afford and Jasjar (wish I could) so I looked for something with a decent screen size and processing power.
The SX66 was the only choice for me, EXACTLY because I could flash it too WM5 Haven't looked back since. I run my games (Morphgear - SNES), work with my files without having to squint too much, play my music and get phone calls. Coolest thing in the world.
I have compared it side by side with the 8125 and the windows Treo, it kept up easy enough. Out did them in some area's, lost in one (no camera)... but in the end its just as functional as the new ones.
Flash it and see!
Daeljan said:
Thank you very much for that answer!
hi Daeljan,
Just reiterating what people has said before
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy.
-- if this is what you need, then you definitely need to upgrade to latest WM5 (Helmi, Xplode - both are great). The sole idea of "persistent storage" itself is a must to upgrade. I am using IIs (Helmi's rom) and I actually found my BA is more stable than when I used 2003SE. I had this hard reset issue when I pressed the green button to receive phone call. It annoyed the hell out of me. It happened to me about 3 times... Now this problem is gone. Just imagine yourself is out of town for a business trip and suddenly our "stable 2003SE" hard reset by itself and the back up file is at home in your pc... what a bum huh? it happened to me.
I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
-- This is a subjective comment from me, I think the current version of WM5 out here are good enuf. I dont think it will "mature" too much cause people WILL be busy playing with WM6. As far as I know, more and more developers make new softwares for WM5/6 and less make them for 2003.
Yes, WM5 still has some issues now, but I have not found 1 piece of software that is perfect. even 2003SE had issues. However, these are acceptable issues (for me anyway).
Just a happy user of WM5 and I would never go back to 2003SE (unless I want to sell my beloved BA, then i might have to flash it back to factory rom ).
If you want to wait, dont wait for WM5... wait for a more stable WM6.
Like other happy users, I still have hopes the geniuses from xda-dev would find a way to make WM6 work on BA... whatever solution that is...
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WM5 allows me to install apps to my storage cards - very useful! There is also the "device lock" feature which has saved me $$$ in phone bills from calls I didnt make.

AD2P...

I have an 8125 with Congular's/HTC's 2.25 ROM, and just got an HT 820.
Neither my Mac nor the 8125 have AD2P, and these past few days I've been doing a lot of researching. ROMs, Reg hacks, people wanting a CAB-install of AD2P, etc. Though all of the threads I looked at, especially here, are a year old. No response from the HowardForum thread I made ; I should have come to XDA first.
So, has there been any luck in another phone's ROM's AD2P profile being able to be installed like an app, or a Registry edit that can 'add'/enable it ? I found a Reg edit for the Dash to enable BT Stereo, but there were no corresponding items in my 8125's registry.
If the ROM is the only way, what would be the most stable, AD2P (, better than 2.25) ROM ? And it's full file name...
This is rather annoying ; theses headsets sound great, plugged into my computer with wire, but I can't walk from my computer – the intention I had for them ! Some time I will have to buy a BT dongle for my Mac, and hopefully I don't have to re-flash some new ROM to 8125, but I have a trip this weekend where I'd like to wirelessly use these, so, so be it...
And, while slightly off note, be there any Crossbow ROMs that support AD2P, and work well with WM5 applications ? (I don't know much about Crossbow, so maybe it's best if I stay from it, also for it's illegal... I'm assuming discussions are allowed though, but if not, just tell.)
I've got Crossbow Underground for a faw days, and it's working propertly.
Also I've got the Jabra 620s BT Headset. It's working even better on WM6 rather than WM5.
If you want to use the BT Headset on a WM5 ROM. You'll maybe need to search for "tornado" along the wizard forum. This works well to get the wireless stereo working.
I've heard goodof Underground ; maybe I will try it.
Is the 'Tornado' another ROM, or some hack ? I'll search it...
tmaromine said:
I've heard goodof Underground ; maybe I will try it.
Is the 'Tornado' another ROM, or some hack ? I'll search it...
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Some additional files and register edits to upgrade to AKU2.2 or just enabling AD2P or something
Thanks for the help ; the Tornado patch/mod I can't and don't feel like trying to get it working, so I'm looking at Crossbow.
I got the Tornado mod to work – halfway. I copied the non-CAB files where it said to, and then went here to download a Wizard-compatible CAB file. Now it works.
tmaromine said:
I got the Tornado mod to work – halfway. I copied the non-CAB files where it said to, and then went here to download a Wizard-compatible CAB file. Now it works.
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Tried the last option which is working so enough to install only that .cab

Bluetooth Questions/Issues

Considering the G1 doesn't have a standard 2.5 or 3.5mm jack for line out, stereo bluetooth was the only other option. who wants to use a retarded adapter on your headset??
Is there any way to add support for this later? It has to be a software fix, as WM didn't have Stereo Bluetooth until WM6. Any ideas?
You're about a month late discovering this one
I've heard that the Google devs are working on a new bluetooth stack that may support A2DP. I've been poring over so many forums lately, I couldn't begin to tell you exactly where. But even review sites say "...bluetooth (A2DP to come later)." When is anybody's guess.
"supposedly" there will be an update the same day it releases to add in A2DP support...
yeah ive heard of 2 updates after release or on release one major and the other not......but again who knows
rantrav said:
yeah ive heard of 2 updates after release or on release one major and the other not......but again who knows
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I hope the other update is video recording...
Oh well, this is STILL the best device T-Mobile has released since the HTC Wizard (aka T-Mobile MDA). And maybe add Outlook support w/ Activesync and Exchange. Well, that might take awhile but someother software might work just as well. Either way,
Does anyone know if word, excel, and powerpoint will work in some kind of fashion?
sino8r said:
I hope the other update is video recording...
Oh well, this is STILL the best device T-Mobile has released since the HTC Wizard (aka T-Mobile MDA). And maybe add Outlook support w/ Activesync and Exchange. Well, that might take awhile but someother software might work just as well. Either way,
Does anyone know if word, excel, and powerpoint will work in some kind of fashion?
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Im not too sure as to how great this source is....they said that there will one minor update and the other will big a big one with having to reset the device....so I really do not know I will try to find it tomorrow..i think that it was on the tmonews.com site...but i will look into it. if it is just a person then i wont post anything else about it but if it has some sort of source then i will be sure to post it.
sino8r said:
Does anyone know if word, excel, and powerpoint will work in some kind of fashion?
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So far, all they're promising is read-only for Office docs.
beartard said:
So far, all they're promising is read-only for Office docs.
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Even if we can install Docs-to-go?
Has DataViz put out an Android client?
G1 Bluetooth
I've asked in various stores and got different answers, so I'm hoping someone with a G1 can give me a definitive answer.
Will the G1 allow another device to access the internet over bluetooth??
Specifically I make a lot of use of my TomTom sat nav during the day, and I rely on it getting traffic updates over the web by bluetooth with my phone. Before I buy a G1 will this still work?
TIA
Dave
maybe?
For now no. maybe some one will develop
Poo, that means I have to still carry a PDA and a phone, I was hoping I could put both together by getting a G1.
You can get GPS Maps and Web access through your G1, so you wont need your TomTom. However, it wont be as detailed or have voice.
hotelier said:
You can get GPS Maps and Web access through your G1, so you wont need your TomTom. However, it wont be as detailed or have voice.
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YET!!! LOL
The hardware is there, but the software isn't finished yet. Right now the only thing Bluetooth can do in Android is connect to a hands-free headset. As I understand, Google is still working on the Bluetooth API and the other profiles will be enabled in a future software update.
Personally, I'm waiting for A2DP. Not a whole lot of point in loading a phone with music if it doesn't work with my headphones.
hotelier said:
You can get GPS Maps and Web access through your G1, so you wont need your TomTom. However, it wont be as detailed or have voice.
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We use our PDAs alongside our TomToms in vehicles, and to be honest I quite like having them seperate for various reasons.
I'll just have to wait for bluetooth internet then maybe reconsider my position.
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We use our PDAs alongside our TomToms in vehicles, and to be honest I quite like having them seperate for various reasons.
I'll just have to wait for bluetooth internet then maybe reconsider my position.
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I agree I like having separate devices. I don't like combining too many things into one object because you can't use them at the same time. I have a TomTom, a MP3/video player, and the G1 now... But I like the fact that when the TomTom is not up to date I can switch to the G1... and if I find myself without my MP3 player I can just use my G1. I like having the option but I don't use it on a daily basis.
TomTom traffic
I understand your concern as I have a similar problem. I have the Vario II and I have had a lot of trouble with it (WM6.1) connecting to the Tomtom traffic server. My case may be complicated by the fact that I ride (tomtom rider) and I cannot get the phone to fix things in the middle of the ride The problem started when Micro$oft changed DUP bluetooth connection and everything gets messed up. I was considering the android G1 as long as I can get the traffic service that I paid but I cannot use. And just to clarify, I do have a single tomtom unit which does the GPS and all the things. The phone is only to provide connection to the tomtom plus service.
I hope that comes soon.
flashing blue led for enabled bluetooth?
is there one? mine doesnt, yours?
Mine blinks when bluetooth is active... not sure if it's only when a device is connected or not but that would be nice to only see it when devices are connected.

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