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HEEEEEEELPP !!! ROM DOWNGRADE ON XDA MINI S

Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo

I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye

Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
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I would be very thankful if you could post a link or send me the ROM upgrade Utility needed
best regards
Bayardo

risidoro said:
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!

phone_one said:
Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
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The modified RUU (ROM Update Utility) is attached.
For ModelID you can use both WIZARD or Prodigy (i used the former).

risidoro said:
Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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sorry to hijack your thread,
just wanted to ask a short question.
if my info is as below:
US T-mobile MDA Vario
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.06
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.3.13.5
ROM version: 1.3.13.5 ENU
ROM date: 9/29/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM: 1.3.13.116
OS 5.1.70(build 14406.1.1.1)
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does this mean that its on a G3 chip and that i can use lokiwiz03a to CID unlock it and upload any 2.x ROM as i please? and downgrade the ROMs too?

@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye

I've just published a tutorial that can help those with a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) CID-Locked device to install whichever 2.x ROM they like.
The tutorial is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
Bye

risidoro said:
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
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thanks risidoro.
i'll give it a go later.
there wont be any issue downgrading the ROM later would there?
eg if i were to install:
RUU_Wizard_2211301_22113102_021911_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
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and later back to
RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe ?
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oh, the bootloader (IPL/SPL) doesnt get upgraded either when i upgrade, would it?

oh thank for the help risidoro.
i saw your post after i uploaded mine.
read through your tutorial and i figured that both IPL / SPL will get updated
people like you makes this site great
thanks once again.

G4 Curiosity

THIS IS NOT A THREAD ON HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE
Ok, rather than crapping on Faria's thread, I am going to start a discussion. I am curious about the G4. Yes, I know curiousity killed the cat. So far, reading the forums we have some people with G4's that can upgrade no problem, some that had to CID unlock to get certain roms to load (Faria's), and some that even after CID unlocking the ROMs will not load the extended rom. Personally, I fall in the last category.
Now, here is what had made me curious: So far, most IPL/SPL I have seen posted about is 2.21.0001 for the G4. Mine, on the other hand is 2.25.0001. So, for thos that have G4s, make a post about your IPL/SPL, if you had to CID unlock, HOW you unlocked, and your measure of success. Faria and I were discussing the possiblity that more is tied to the IPL/SPL than on the G3s. Or they are using tighter security. So if we have people with IPLs of 2.21.0001 that can load the full ROM after CID unlocking, and those that have 2.25.0001 that get the OS, but not the extended rom..it gives us a clue.

cptcafne said:
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ON HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE
Ok, rather than crapping on Faria's thread, I am going to start a discussion. I am curious about the G4. Yes, I know curiousity killed the cat. So far, reading the forums we have some people with G4's that can upgrade no problem, some that had to CID unlock to get certain roms to load (Faria's), and some that even after CID unlocking the ROMs will not load the extended rom. Personally, I fall in the last category.
Now, here is what had made me curious: So far, most IPL/SPL I have seen posted about is 2.21.0001 for the G4. Mine, on the other hand is 2.25.0001. So, for thos that have G4s, make a post about your IPL/SPL, if you had to CID unlock, HOW you unlocked, and your measure of success. Faria and I were discussing the possiblity that more is tied to the IPL/SPL than on the G3s. Or they are using tighter security. So if we have people with IPLs of 2.21.0001 that can load the full ROM after CID unlocking, and those that have 2.25.0001 that get the OS, but not the extended rom..it gives us a clue.
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I have a G4
I am
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
I am still CID locked, and have not attempted to perform any ROM upgrades yet
I want to CID unlock my device so that i can do a rom backup to the SD card before attempting any kind of ROM upgrades.
How did you unlock your G4 device?

d0ug said:
I have a G4
I am
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
How did you unlock your G4 device?
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Imei website. search for it

imei did it for me
IPL/SPL = 2.17.0001 which means I have a G4.
I ended up paying for unlocking at the imei website but it did the trick and solved my issues where previously i could only get the Mr Clean ROM upgrade to work. Other ROMs would only update the splash screen and the Extension ROM.
Yesterday I successfully updated to Faria's latest RC1 ROM with no issues.

cptcafne said:
Imei website. search for it
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Thanks, I knew of the site, I just wasnt sure if it was a CID unlock or only SIM unlock. There was a post this morning about it only being a SIM unlock.

I got a CID-LOCKED G4:
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21.0001
OS 2.26.10.2
GSM 02.25.11
I succesfully installed:
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE
Couldn't install:
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-G4-30MB-CF2
Installer said something about compatibility issues
Didn't dare trying to install Faria new rom yet.

IPL/SPL 2.25.0001
CID locked G4
Extension ROM locked and empty after a failed flash with the official 2.25 ROM on HTC site, can't get anything to install into it. I've since learned to live with it and hope Cingular/HTC will release a newer ROM update that will fix this issue. I'm actually looking into upgrading to a 8525 but those suckers are a bit pricey at the moment so staying with my 8125 for now.

My G4 with bootloader 2.16.0001 had unlock with imei-check.co.uk. You can do it at the same site for 20GBP and U can successfully install any ROM (shipped or custom) without bootloader (I mean IPL/SPL). I recommended to stay in your current latest version of official ROM's bootloader and you will not have any issue.
Nishad

evilito said:
IPL/SPL 2.25.0001
CID locked G4
Extension ROM locked and empty after a failed flash with the official 2.25 ROM on HTC site, can't get anything to install into it. I've since learned to live with it and hope Cingular/HTC will release a newer ROM update that will fix this issue. I'm actually looking into upgrading to a 8525 but those suckers are a bit pricey at the moment so staying with my 8125 for now.
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That is exactly what happened to me!! Tried the HTC rom, and it killed my extended rom. crap. ok so HTC did this to us. I wonder how many other members tried the "official" rom and it crashed, therefore have not been able to get any extended rom loaded.

Same issue here with the extended ROM and 2.25.0001
The shipped ROM for cingular 8125 would fail.
Had to cook my own ROM and manually put the Extended_ROM folder in root and run the AutoRun.exe from phone to load it.

I was trying to find the way, how to cook a ROM, whitch will work on CID-locked Wizards and I thing: On CID locked phones we can flash only ROMs with nono edited os.nb without IPL/SPL
Example:
I have had a 2.21 ROM a I was able to flash 2.26.10.2 ROM without any changes.
If a decrasing the Pagepool, the the ROM was not working on CID locked

cptcafne,
I am sure you have seen my posts in faria's thread, but I will add my woes to this thread as well.
I have a 2.25.0001 G4 Wizard.
After doing the CID Unlocking through IMEI, I attempted to load faria's beta 4 rom. The ext rom has never installed for me. I think I might have tried installing the rom image from the htc website over the rom that shipped since I thought the HTC rom was newer (I was wrong). I belive this locked my ext rom from the get go. After testing it, I wanted to go back to the cingular 2.25 offcial rom to have a stable base to install the RC1. However, I got when re flashing the 2.25 rom I receive the invalid nb.nkf error message.
If Broken has cooked is own extended rom which has worked on his G4, perhaps a seperate G4 ext rom file is the resolution that faria should seek if there is no success in automating the process in the flash.
I wonder if the locking of the ext rom is an HTC or Cingular thing. Either way I wonder if they have the ability to tell us how to unlock the ext rom?

G4 unlocked by IMEI
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
Radio 2.47.11
ROM 3.0.0.0 WWE
Faria's 8mb ROM installed without any problems (including the ExtROM) been running OK for about a week and only the occasional soft reset.
Installed over wizard Love 2.26 ROM

hello,
G4 Not unlocked :
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
No rom upgrade possible

G4 2.17.0001
Qtek 9100
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
CID unlocked by the IMEI UK site.
Running the latest 3.0.0 RC1 Faria ROM - no issues with the upgrade.
Prior to CID unlock I could only upgrade the splash screen and the ExtROM.
I haven't had the nerve to attempt an IPL/SPL upgrade - not even sure what benefits it would bring.

In this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249359&highlight=unlock+extended+rom) there is a way to unlock the extended Rom. However when I do this, all I see is the cingular ext rom files that are installed during the "customization" process. I am wondering if Cingular is in fact locking the ext rom so that no matter what ROM is flashed the ext rom will always contain the Cingular programs and files that were shipped with the phone.
I have yet to see a user with an IPL/SPL of 2.25.0001 be able to install any ext roms.
Jason

fla242 said:
hello,
G4 Not unlocked :
IPL/SPL 2.17.001
No rom upgrade possible
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are you sure your device is G4????? cuz ipl spl are ends with .001 not .0001

Awais said:
are you sure your device is G4????? cuz ipl spl are ends with .001 not .0001
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Just to clarify, G4 devices have an IPL/SPL of 2.xx.0001. If the IPL/SPL do not appear in that format when you reset your device than you have a G3 device.

jpryor said:
cptcafne,
I am sure you have seen my posts in faria's thread, but I will add my woes to this thread as well.
I have a 2.25.0001 G4 Wizard.
After doing the CID Unlocking through IMEI, I attempted to load faria's beta 4 rom. The ext rom has never installed for me. I think I might have tried installing the rom image from the htc website over the rom that shipped since I thought the HTC rom was newer (I was wrong). I belive this locked my ext rom from the get go. After testing it, I wanted to go back to the cingular 2.25 offcial rom to have a stable base to install the RC1. However, I got when re flashing the 2.25 rom I receive the invalid nb.nkf error message.
If Broken has cooked is own extended rom which has worked on his G4, perhaps a seperate G4 ext rom file is the resolution that faria should seek if there is no success in automating the process in the flash.
I wonder if the locking of the ext rom is an HTC or Cingular thing. Either way I wonder if they have the ability to tell us how to unlock the ext rom?
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Yeah, that is what looks like happened. so far from what I seen on the boards, if someone tried to install the HTC Update and it failed, then the ext rom was locked. or even removed, I am not sure.
Jpryor said:
In this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...extended+ rom) there is a way to unlock the extended Rom. However when I do this, all I see is the cingular ext rom files that are installed during the "customization" process. I am wondering if Cingular is in fact locking the ext rom so that no matter what ROM is flashed the ext rom will always contain the Cingular programs and files that were shipped with the phone.
I have yet to see a user with an IPL/SPL of 2.25.0001 be able to install any ext roms.
Jason
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Are you sure ? I could have sworn that some members with 2.25.0001 were able to install custom roms completely. Can anyone confirm this for us ?

I have a G4, and the original IPL/SPL was 2.25.0001. I tried all the free options to CID unlock (they worked for SIM unlock), but not worked. So I paid the £20 to IMEI-Check for the unlock key. With that I fully CID unlocked my device.
I installed the stock T-Mobile USA 2.26 ROM, and now my IPL/SPL is 2.26.0001. (I switched carriers from Cingular to T-Mobile, but prefer the 8125's keyboard to the MDA's, so I wanted to keep my existing device.)

CID Unlocking question...

Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus

As written before, u need AKU 1 to CID unlock your phone..the only way to be sure is to unlock again. Use buttons rom.. downgrade to that... unlock the phone.. install the rom again so the IPL and SPL are the same..then you can switch to whatever rom you want. How ever, you havent shown what type of Wizard you have whether its a G3 or a G4..the above method is what i used for my G3 Wizard

I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?

Bonusbartus said:
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
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1. Thank-you for posting in a new thread and not in a ROM release thread.
2. Do you have a G3 or G4 (what is your IPL/SPL?)
2a. If you have a G3 read the Sticky post The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.
2b. If you have a G4 log onto the IMEI pay site (links all over the place) and pay to get your phone unlocked.
3. IF you have a G3 rom you must downgrade to CID unlock. It isn't possible to CID unlock from AKU2 or higher (read the sticky, it tells you what you need to do)
4. The best thing to do if you are unsure is to just repeat the unlock procedure. It won't hurt a thing if you are already unlocked, but will unlock you if you are locked.
5. Don't do anything flash related until you know for sure, beyond a doubt which version of Wizard you have (G3 or G4) If you have a G4 and use G3 procedures you WILL most likely ruin your device.
6. You won't get this error if you follow the steps in the correct order from the upgrade guide.
7. Good Luck

Bonusbartus said:
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
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With your G3 just follow the steps, in order, from the sticky and you should be able to end with whatever ROM you choose. Some of the steps may not make sense but, they are necessary and prevent common issues if followed correctly.

Well, I do have a G3 so I can follow the tutorial,
ipl and spl are 2.18,
only question left, CAN I downgrade to the wwe rom in the tutorial? that's what I wanna know, because I now have a nld rom, can I flash to the wwe rom in the tutorial without CID-unlocking?
well I think I just try
thanx
oh btw, any recommendations on which rom to flash to after unlocking? and I saw something about radio only roms and page-pools what would u recommend there?

IPL/SPL 2.21 vs. IPL/SPL 2.26

Hi to everyone,
Does anybody know the differences between IPL/SPL 2.21 and 2.26?
As I read in the Wiki section IPL/SPL are the bootloaders of the phone, like the BIOS of our CPU's nada I dont want to mess with that!
Why I'm asking this?...
My PPC is an O2 XDA MiniS AKU2 IPL/SPL 2.21 and want to install Faria's ROM.
I will have to CID-UNLOCK first.
There are 2 threads of cid unlocking:
1) One for AKU2 PPC (call from here THREAD 1)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
2) and other for those who has older rom (call from here THREAD 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
I was going to follow the steps that are include in thread 1 wich recommends to downgrade your rom, cid unlock and then install your manufacturer ROM (mine has IPL/SPL 2.21).
But reading thread 2 I found that is recommendable to have IPL/SPL 2.26 to run cooked ROM's just like Faria's.
The author recommends to install T-Mobile ROM to have strong IPL/SPL 2.26.
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
The idea is to get IPL/SPL 2.26 and then flash Faria's ROM.
Sorry if it's a double post, but I really couldnt find the answer.
Thanks in advance,
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
Thanks in advance,
Paulo
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1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders.
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will. The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.

Zzan said:
1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders..
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>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will.
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>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.
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>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.

polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
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a) good -- Just follow all the steps and you will be successful (make sure your phone is a G3 if you aren't using a pay to unlock website)
b) , c) you only need to flash one of these. Once you are unlocked it doesn't matter which one, they will all get you to a version that you can flash Faria's rom from. Most people recommend the T-Mobile rom as it has the latest bootloaders and is a good base to build from
c) You can do this at any time after you have successfully flashed a carrier rom.
polaco1977 said:
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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If you unlocked your phone properly with the method for your device type (G3 or G4) it will not hurt your phone to flash any ROM that is compatible with your phone version (G3's can flash most anything without issue, G4's can only flash certain ROMs)
polaco1977 said:
>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo
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You're welcome

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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo

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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo
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I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30

computer9cowboy said:
I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30
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Where did you find it? I have downloaded it from the thread RADIO ROM 2.61.11
It´s been hosting by Rapishare and the file calls REAL_RADIO_2.61.11
Do you have another link where can I download it?
Can you send me a pm?
Paulo

Sum it all up: IPL/SPL+Radio+Ext.ROM+ROM itself

Hello!
I initially PM'd a few people regarding this but I think I'll get more interaction if I just made it a thread.
I have a MDA. Following the The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards by Dr. Puttingham, I was able to get it unlocked and updated to T-Mobile v2.26 and the process went perfectly *smooth 'n nice*.
Now... I'm targeting XDA Mobile 6 as my new ROM (OS).
Going through the requirements of X6, I found out that it's just the ROM... no IPL/SPL, Radio, or Ext...
Also, in the guide linked above a newer IPL/SPL v3.08 is mentioned... and similarly, in the X6's thread, a note regarding a T-Mobile 2.19 UK Radio is also mentioned.
Now I have all these files but I don't know how to proceed...
what should I install first? <- Very, very Important! teh sequence
Should I go for the IPL/SPL v3?
I already studied the whole XDA Mobile 6 thread and figured that I should stick with Radio v2.19 as per mfrazzz recommendation.
So, as the title says, "PL/SPL+Radio+Ext.ROM+ROM itself"... how am I to mix them all up together?

salaaam! noticed your in lahore!
ok, i was in a similar position to you,
this is what i did:
i started off with ipl/spl 1.01
CID Unlocked and SIM-unlocked using LOKIWIZ (THIS IS IMPORTANT, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CID-UNLOCKED!)
download the official T-Mobile 2.26 Update
Install the T-Mobile update, your IPL/SPL Changes to 2.26
download XM6,
FLASH IT!
its as simple as that once you've CID-Unlocked
you dont want to be mixing around with anything!
dont worry about IPL/SPL V3, there is very little/no gain over ipl/spl 2.26 (i actually went to ipl/spl 3.08 and then ended up downgrading to ipl/spl 2.26
Radio- use the reccommended one in the XM6 thread, no other radio roms appear to work so well with windows mobile 6
ext.rom is basically the 'extended rom' what this is, is a little area of flash memory in your wizard that, when you turn your wizard on for the first time, it installs some t-mobile customisations like the themese and dial skins and stuff.
so, in summary: after cid-unlocking and flashing 2.26 you can pretty much flash any other rom you want! its only with a G4 its a little complicated, but by the sounds of it you dont have a G4!
good luck!

oh, forgot to add:
YOU DONT WANT TO BE PLAYING AROUND WITH IPL/SPL, this is what bricks most phones
an unsuccessful OS flash can be repaired easily, but an unsuccessful COMPLETE rom update (i.e OS + ipl/spl + ext_rom) cannot be repaired so easily.
ALL of the roms in the 'Wizard Mobile 6' forums are OS ONLY, so you can flash away! just keep the official 2.26 update handy just in case!
i've never had any problems with flashing roms, and i have tried nearly all of the pandora WM6 roms (almost 10 of them i think), XM6 (the one you wish to try), WM6 BE, NBD all of his versions, TNT 2.0, Ti edition, Farias real thing and now ive settled on my own cooked rom!

Thank you so much Duke!
Okay, this just leaves a bit of room for Radio... the TMv2.26 has radio v02.25.11... I downloaded the recommended Radio version.
Should I update the ROM first or the Radio?

i would upgrade the radio rom first
provided you've cid-unlocked,you can flash every rom on the forums as though they were official updates!
good luck!

proper method would be to make sure if you have the phone unlocked first (follow whichever method is indicated on the unlocking thread).
then, flash to an official rom (whether it's the us t-mobile 2.26 or the german/european 3.08). these roms have ipl/spl, radio, and os (wm5) in them.
afterwards flash with the custom rom of your choice. most recent roms on the forum seem to be os only, so you don't have to worry about the other parts (ipl/spl, radio). older wm5 roms use to have ipl/spl integrated in them (faria, molski, xelencin). just make sure you read the corresponding thread by the rom chef for the rom you're looking to upgrade to.
finish off with the radio update. most radio rom flashs are designed to be radio only.
in summary:
unlock --> official t-mobile rom --> custom rom --> radio rom

Success
"Success"
monkey_knight, I already flashed according to duke_stix's procedure: unlock --> official t-mobile rom --> radio rom --> custom rom
All went well and I can't be any happier! This is the best ROM I've seen and to all my friends saying that WM6 is for those 600MHz processors: In your Face!
I feel my MDA is faster on this ROM then the official one!
Thanks a million to all you guys. You are all Cyber-Wizard (Level 255)​