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I live in Canada and have a Fido SIM card. When Rogers and Fido merged, the old Fido network ID (302-370) was made defunct so that the only GSM network available is the Rogers one (302-720).
As I am a Fido customer, it means that my Kaiser believes that it is always roaming as 302-370 is my home network and I can't use the roaming-based data rules to manage my data charges when I'm truly roaming.
Is there a way to add 302-720 as a "home network" as far as the Kaiser is concerned? Is this defined in the registry or in the ROM?
I am currently using the stock HTC ROM.
Thanks.
Its defined on the Sim card, just call Rogers and tell them what happened, and Im sure that they'll send you a new card with 302-720 as a home network.
Otherwise, I dont wanna be a Canadian Idiot! (LOL at Wierd Al for his song...)
Eh?
I've been in touch with both the regular customer service people and their "network people". They are either unable or unwilling to make that change for me. It is possible that they use the SIM's home network as a key to decide which back-end database they reference. Although they merged the two GSM networks, they still operate as two separate companies (apart from the price collusion, of course).
Yesterday, I even bought a new latest-generation SIM card to replace my ancient one thinking that it may fix the problem. No luck - it still uses the Fido network id.
So, as the SIM card is stuck the way it is, I need a way to override my Kaiser's opinion that the Rogers network is a roaming one.
I have a really similar problem, plus another one which might be related.
I am in the UK and on the "Three" network, they are mainly a 3G network and i'm not sure but they might not have 'any' 2G transmitters. So when I have 3G coverage there is no roaming icon and everything works fine.
If however I am in a 2G area and using their roaming partner (not sure who yet, possibly Orange) the GPRS will not work unless I go in and tell the phone to search for a network automatically then make a connection straight away. It says there is GPRS signal and connects but I can't actually transfer any data. The GSM standard phone calls and TXT messages work fine without doing that.
If anyone does have an answer on how to add additional home networks I would be gratefull to know too.
I have the same problem with Fido; however, when I put my SIM into a Samsung Jack flashed with Fido ROM, the roaming problem is gone. The Samsung Jack was from Rogers. This leads me to believe that the roaming is somehow set by the ROM.
I don't believe there is anyway you are going to be able to make the Rogers network not think you are a Rogers customer through a registry hack.
Maybe you can find a work around by using those dialing rules?
And the only real fix is to bite the bullet and switch over to a Rogers contract.
Switching over to Rogers will resolve the roaming issue and will finally be rid of the text from 18 for voicemail; however, I don't want to lose my old City Fido plan.
i also face same problem any solution guy's ?
Hi everyone. I have been doing a tonne of reading trying to figure out a couple of things for my Treo 750.
It is a Rogers phone for which I paid an online service provider to unlock. I am using my FIDO SIM in it without any problems.
It says I am always roaming and although assurances from FIDO I won't be charged Roaming fees, it gets kind of annoying everytime I check my email that it tells me I am roaming and asks if I am sure I want to do this....
So, I understand there is carrier specific info in the carrier.pxp file. I am told the Rogers network code is in this file.
Am I able to edit this to include the FIDO network code 302370 so the phone doesn't think it is always roaming?
Would it be better to unbrand / unlock the phone to WM6.1 via the methods I see here in the forums? [dubLeE's method].
Thanks everyone,
Ryan
It has nothing to do with your phone. It's the fact you are using the Fido GSM card on a Rogers network. It has nothing to do with whether your phone is locked or unlocked, and changing the carrier code won't do anything.
To disable the roaming network check when you check email, from Outlook Mobile go to Tools -> Options, choose the email account you've setup, then go to Send/Receive Schedule -> Advanced Settings -> check "Use automatic send / receive schedule when roaming"
Hi number16. Thanks for the reply.
The "Use automatic send / receive schedule when roaming" doesn't seem to prevent the "You are currently roaming. Synchronizing may result in additional charges" dialog box when the schedule is set to manual. In fact, the checkbox is greyed out and not selectable with a manual schedule. Even with an automated schedule configured, you are still prompted when doing a manual send/receive.
I was thinking that if the phone was configured such that it thought its' home network carrier code was the FIDO code, it wouldn't consider me roaming.
Anyways, sounds like I am stuck with it. Thanks again for the info
I have the exact same problem with my work Exchange email on a Rogers Touch Diamond. The roaming has to be defined by the ROM or registry. When I put my Fido SIM in a Rogers Samsung Jack flashed with the Fido ROM, there is no issue with roaming.
Hi there,
Same issue here, I am using my unlocked Treo 750 from Rogers on Bell network.
It works fine, except for the roaming issue.
How to get rid of that triangle icon on the top?
Were you able to edit the carrierDB.pxp file?
Please help.
Did you change your network settings over to the correct settings for the network of the SIM card you are using?
Unlocking a phone will allow other SIM cards to work, but if you don't change your network settings, then the phone will still try to connect to the Rogers network.
How do i unlock the network, i have a samsung corby phone which is rogers based and am using a fido sim card. Everything works except the internet which comes up as network error. please let me know if you can help. email- [email protected], thank you.
alyssaripley18 said:
How do i unlock the network, i have a samsung corby phone which is rogers based and am using a fido sim card. Everything works except the internet which comes up as network error. please let me know if you can help. email- [email protected], thank you.
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This is a Palm Treo 750 forum. You should find a forum specific to your handset for exact instructions.
In general, your phone probably has a 'Settings' menu which would have some sort of option to edit your network settings. That's where you would make the change. You would have to get the proper settings from Fido.
startngate said:
Did you change your network settings over to the correct settings for the network of the SIM card you are using?
Unlocking a phone will allow other SIM cards to work, but if you don't change your network settings, then the phone will still try to connect to the Rogers network.
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If I have the APN set to the one for the network of the SIM Card I am using then will I not get charged roaming?
Is it possible for it to actually be roaming and me not knowing about it?
To all the Dutch Telfort / Diamond users: I have a roaming Icon on my screen permanently. I would like to get rid of it but so far I could not find out how. I have one last idea what might cause the roaming icon to apprear but for that to be confirmed I need your input.
So please be kind and let me know the following:
1: Do you have a SIM card that is from before the Telfort-KPN migration? Or after?
2: Do you see a little triangle in the top bar on your screen? (this is the Roaming Icon)
I appreciate your help. I will let you know if my idea was correct if enough data on sims and triangles gets in.
Thanks,
Chris
1: I have a SIM card long time before the Telfort-KPN migration?
2: And also have the Roaming Icon all the time!
Thanks!!!
Any Telfort users from the Post KPN migration era???
Chris
Come on, there must be more Dutch Telfort people here???
I have a Telfort SIM card from Oct '09 (after the KPN-Telfort migration I believe). Unfortunately I'm also stuck with the roaming triangle icon on my kaiser... would love to get rid of it! Any solutions?
I have a sim from sept 2006.
Always have the roaming symbol.
Did notice that i am roaming since i have the Touch diamond.
I am not able to auto sync my mail because of this! Very anoying!
If you hate the icon so much you can hide it by edit/create
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL "DisableRoamingIndicator" to 1
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If you hate the icon so much you can hide it by edit/create
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL "DisableRoamingIndicator" to 1
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Thanks for your kind answer, had no such value in registry, created it, but no luck.
Same problem here....
1: I have a SIM card long, long time before the Telfort-KPN migration
2: And also have the Roaming Icon all the time!
I have done some extensive research on this topic. It turns out that CDMA phones can get rid of their Roaming Icon by tweaking the registry. That is because the phone contains a list of "freindly networks" and roaming is controled in the phone itself.
GSM phones do not have this database. Their roaming is controled by the provider. Therefore the registry tweak does not work. It is for the CDMA phone.
I have also contacted an unoficial "telfort forum" where a Telfort developer told me that Telfort can not fix this problem on their side. Old SIM or new SIM does not make any difference unfortunately.
The only chance that is left is if someone can find in the registry or somewhere in the phone software the exact place where the phone decides if it is roaming or not and change that in some way to make it think it is not roaming.
Too bad, I hate the stupid Roaming triangle.
Chris thanks 4 the effort! indeed very annoying the Roaming all the time..keep us posted if you find some solutions!
Thanks for this clear explanation Chris, i just started to hate this yellow thingy when i stumbled across this taskbar which makes the icon much nicer and less 'present'
BTW i'm using the Gen.Y D2 R2-Rev.Z NLD ROM on my Diamond which is based on WM 6.1
Credits for the taskbar go of course to Tsowen
To Nirak...
I don't think it solves the issue with the roaming icon. It only makes the icon looks nicer and less present..but I don't like it for example that when i want to send/receive mail i'm given a notification that i'm roaming and if i wish to continue..
Enable email during roaming.
For those of you having problems with email:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings
ShowRoamWarning REG_DWORD 0
And within the ActiveSync Settings:
ActiveSync -> Menu -> Schedule -> Enable "Use above settings when roaming"
Works perfectly on my Benq e72, TP1 and now Omnia Qwerty. (Direct push mail send throu a MS Exchange 2003 SP2 box.)
Thanks a lot SMILEX!..
this string didn't exist, but I created it and it works perfect!!
All those solutions help, but the real solution is still not found I guess. Hope the "list" which triggers the icon will be found one day.... Because it's still quite annoying.
Hey all:
I just switched from Ben to Telfort. I don't get the roaming icon, but I do get an annoying warning every time I start a data-intensive app on my HD2. Telfort says there's nothing that can be done, but Ben is able to use T-Mobile's network without all the roaming warnings. Why can't Telfort use KPN's network without these warnings? It's obviously possible.
I have the same problem with Telfort but on HTC Touch HD
I don't want to get rid only from icon, but also from that my phone think that it is roaming, but it is national roaming, which should be handled the same as home network.
Hello all,
I have searched these forums high and low, but could not find a solution to my problem. I have a Kaiser which I use on the Canadian provider Fido. Since late 2004, Fido is a wholly owned subsidiary of Rogers, another Canadian wireless provider. Fido and Rogers now share one same network: Rogers'. My problem is that my Kaiser, having a Fido SIM in it, seems to always think it is roaming because it is connecting to the Rogers network. This causes me a problem since I cannot tell my phone to only download when on my home network, otherwise I would never be able to download anything (since I am always roaming). If I tell my phone to download even when roaming, I cannot control my usage when I actually am roaming in another country. I know there must be some kind of setting somewhere that I can adjust to make my phone think it is not roaming while connected to Rogers' network, I just don't know what it is. No matter what ROM I try, I can't get rid of that pesky "roaming triangle"! My gf's phone, a Samsung Jack, does not think it is forever roaming, so I know it is possible.
Does anyone have any insight on this?
Thanks in advance!
Dom
Hello there.
I have used my kaiser with Saudi Sim card, Lebanese Sim card, Jordanian Sim card and now FIDO sim card. Ive always had this triangle and has never affected my data plan.
bteljuice said:
Hello there.
I have used my kaiser with Saudi Sim card, Lebanese Sim card, Jordanian Sim card and now FIDO sim card. Ive always had this triangle and has never affected my data plan.
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Me too, I even had my roaming turned off by Fido for some time and the triangle was still there.
Thanks for the input, guys. I know that the roaming icon will not prevent me from accessing 3G data. What it does prevent me from doing, though, is differentiating between "real" roaming (i.e. in another country) and "fake" roaming (i.e. on the Rogers network). As it stands, all settings which can be set to "use 3G data only when not roaming" are ineffective as I would never be able to download anything if they were enabled.
I hope that clears things up. And I hope that someone smarter than I am has a solution for this problem.
Thanks again!
Hello, I have the exact same phone on the exact same fido network and have the roaming triangle as well. It does not affect your data/voice plan at all. (ie. if you are in the Canada, you will not be charged for roaming). This is all explained in the following link:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=837503
Essentially the gist of it is that you are "roaming" on the rogers network, but since they are the same company, it doesn't matter or affect any of your plans. I have used my 6GB data plan from Fido with no extra charges.
It does effect some programs that do provide options for disabling web traffic when roaming (ie. hotmail push e-mail from windows live) as these programs will always think you are on another network.
What I have done is, predominantly, I use my wifi connection where available and have turned off all the "disabling traffic when roaming" options in various apps. Then in the fido internet (3G;GPRS) settings, I did not include the password. What this does is that when I connect to the internet without wifi it asks me for my password which I then enter to connect. Definitely mildly inconvenient, but prevents me from 'accidentally' connecting to the internet when in the US.
Thanks ibhimani.
I have taken similar measures to prevent roaming fees, but I use MoDaCo's NODATA app, instead. Basically, it allows me to completely turn off all cellular data connections (WiFi remains intact) while I am away.
Still, I don't think this is a real solution; it is a workaround at best. I know there is a way to force the phone to recognize the Rogers network as a "Home" network since my gf's Samsung Jack does not claim to be roaming at all times. I will try to look through the registry on the Jack to see if there is some setting I can tweak to achieve the desired effect. I'll let you all know if I find something.
That would be great. Thanks in advance.
No luck!
Hi all,
After a little research in the registry of my gf's Samsung Jack, I've found that the way the network is handled on it is different than on our HTC. The Samsung uses something called MITSMan.exe (Mobile Intelligent Terminal by Samsung Manager) which can identify the network correctly on her phone, but not on ours. Unfortunately, this is not reusable for us. The search continues. Hopefully, a WinMo HTC device will launch on Fido sometime soon so I can reuse something from it.
If I find anything else, I'll post it here.
I have a Nokia e62 and the Samsung Jack from Fido. Both these phones do not show the roaming icon. Must be some sort of custom firmware brewed for Fido by the manufacturers.
BTW - I am now using a Samsung Omnia II. This shows roaming too.
hameedx said:
I have a Nokia e62 and the Samsung Jack from Fido. Both these phones do not show the roaming icon. Must be some sort of custom firmware brewed for Fido by the manufacturers.
BTW - I am now using a Samsung Omnia II. This shows roaming too.
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Hi hameedx,
With a Samsung Omnia II, you may be able to make a change to the registry to make it think you're on the home network, if it works like the Samsung Jack. On your Jack, search through the registry for something called MITSman. There should be a value corresponding to Fido's carrier code (MNC-MCC), which is 302-370 (or 302-720, which is Rogers'). It may actually be easier to search for these values. If the Omnia also uses MITSman, then you might be able to make the registry entries on it look like the ones on the Jack. If you need more detail about the registry entries, I could get them when I have access to a Jack again.
I searched the Jack's registry for anything with 302 720 370 72 37. Couldn't find any meaningful entry. Perhaps it is a DLL that we need to replace?
I believe that the Fido Samsung Jack has roaming indicator disabled completely. I used a Telus SIM in the Jack and does not show roaming. The Telus SIM shows roaming when I put it in other unlocked phones.
Hi,
I would like to be able to modify my AT&T radio and change the default Mobile Network Code for my carier, is there any software to make easy to modify the ROM file ?
Thank
I'm not quite sure I understand what you're asking, but a radio will work on various different networks, depending on which SIM card you have in the phone. So I'm not sure that it's in the radio that you need to look.
What is it that you're trying to achive exactly, why do you want to change this code ?
Well, here is my problem;
I bought a Tilt 2 on ebay, and I also get an Unlock code for it. I have inserted my Bell SIM and the phone work correctly. I have configured the APN setting correctly and now I have internet without any problem.
The only bad thing is that the phone always think i'm in roaming, but that's not true. I have to deactivate all setting about roaming check, it's not a big thing but If I got to USA I will be charged for real roaming. and another downside is that many application pup info about roaming and data charge.
I'm searching since couple days to found a solution, and I'm pretty there is one but I have not enough knowledge on programming stuff. I've look all every registry in my phone and no one can't correct this ''roaming'' situation.
That's why im turning to Radio, since this phone is an AT&T, it's propbably seaching to compare SIM network provided and ROM network. I've found an interesting site about MMC/MNC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Network_Code
and found that the default network for AT&T is 310-410. Here in Canada We have bell and telus that use same technology then AT&T (UMTS 850 / UMTS 1900).
I would like to change the default ''home'' network code to 302-880. because my Sim Provided IMSI is 302-610 (Bell).
So to make it short. I want to change the default ''HOME'' network 310-410 to 302-880 so the phone will not be in a roaming profile.
Hope that someone can help me, and I'm pretty sure many people will appreciate this fix.
Thank You.
I don't know much about this, but surely it's your SIM card that is providing this code ? Since I could buy an unlocked Tilt 2 and put my own SIM card in it, and use it fine here in the UK on a UK network.
I can't believe that your phone thinks it's roaming just because it's a Tilt 2.
Yes, I found in my registry ProvidedIMSI="302610" that is the SIM registred network 302610 Bell HSPA network. So my SIM is telling the phone to use this network, but there is something in the phone that say it's roaming and not a home network. and I need to find and change this.
I'm not the only one in this situation and i would like to find a fix.
i have no knowledge about this only thing i can think of at the moment is just change the current radio version and flash a new rom. the latest version for radio is
4.49.25.95
and is found here ------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
follow the right steps. [:d]
best of luck
Yes, I've updated the Radio to the latest version and still have the problem of ROAMING. i've try 2 old radio and always got the roaming icon.
Any other input will be accepted!!
Thanks
BiOs2k said:
Yes, I've updated the Radio to the latest version and still have the problem of ROAMING. i've try 2 old radio and always got the roaming icon.
Any other input will be accepted!!
Thanks
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I read somewhere that roaming starts when you are out of your area code range.
But you can try this too
go to ------> setting ---> personal ------> phone -------> Network (in the bottom tabs)
In the network tab click Find Network and make sure it is the same network you are using.
Network selection should be "Automatic".
Now in next tab BAND
select network type to "GSM" and GSM/UMTS band to "Auto".
Try this and let me know if this work else i will ask somebody knowledgeable like Sir Phunkee
the show stopper said:
I read somewhere that roaming starts when you are out of your area code range.
But you can try this too
go to ------> setting ---> personal ------> phone -------> Network (in the bottom tabs)
In the network tab click Find Network and make sure it is the same network you are using.
Network selection should be "Automatic".
Now in next tab BAND
select network type to "GSM" and GSM/UMTS band to "Auto".
Try this and let me know if this work else i will ask somebody knowledgeable like Sir Phunkee
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I've play with these setting and nothing seem to work.
But maybe I found something interesting.
I've just test the phone with a ROGERS SIM card and I get 3G signal and i'm NOT in roaming mode..
Now, What that mean ? Rogers 3G is UMTS/HSPA 850/1900MHz same as BELL.
Why it say Roaming when phone is connected to BELL with BELL Sim and not on ROGERS SIM??
Could someone help me with that ? fix, cab, anything ?
Thanks
rooming
Hi
I do not know think you want to do with your tilt 2
Why you don't do a hard SPL and install a cocked rom !! as energy
I am using a tilt purchased from AT&T without contract
I get a unlock cod from the internet then I do a hard SPL it and install the energy rom in, is work like a charm with Rogers, without any problem( only the gps wish I never try
Perhaps this is can resolve your problem you should try
thanks
Already done Cjoco My Tilt 2 is Unlocked and Hard-SPL with latest EnergyROM.
Like I said before, SIM ROGERS work like a charm in my phone, No roaming warning. but with BELL and TELUS SIM I get the Roaming notif but it's not true, Im connected to BELL and VOICE,DATA,etc. work #1.
People say that it work with ROGERS because this carrier have a fallback signal if 3G is not available, with BELL if I lose 3G signal my phone doesn't work.
BiOs2k said:
I've play with these setting and nothing seem to work.
But maybe I found something interesting.
I've just test the phone with a ROGERS SIM card and I get 3G signal and i'm NOT in roaming mode..
Now, What that mean ? Rogers 3G is UMTS/HSPA 850/1900MHz same as BELL.
Why it say Roaming when phone is connected to BELL with BELL Sim and not on ROGERS SIM??
Could someone help me with that ? fix, cab, anything ?
Thanks
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then i think problem is with your sim card not with your phone. Just get your sim card replaced and i am sure the problem would be resolved.
the problem may be with his sim card, but im not sure replacing it will fix anythibng. im also with bell and have the same problem on my fuze.
bios2k, how old is your sim card?
bobzero My SIM card is 2 Week Old. so, i'm not sure it because my SIM is old.
I'll give a call at tech support @ BELL to see if they know why it doing this. I'm not sure if they will be enough good to explain this situation.
I've read last night on many forums the RILPHONE.DLL could be a possible cause of our problem.
In my config I can select GSM(850,1700) + UMTS(850,1700) but there is no option to select UMTS only. so maybe the phone is searching for GSM first (rogers) that's why when I insert a ROGERS SIM my phone is not roaming.
Is there a way I can extract RILPHONE.DLL for our EnergyROM or Stock Tilt 2 rom. Maybe I can ask a Programmer to take a look at this DLL to see the code.
I'll let you know.
I've just talk with BELL technical support and they have no idea why I'm the phone say it's in ROAMING. I've talk to the billing department and they say I don't have any ROAMING fees, so nothing to worry about..
Now, I'm still at the same state = no solution
Same here.
I was checking around and found many got this problem, including BBs. Now, some claimed that after upgrading the O/S for his BB, it went away. Another person with different device upgraded his O/S and started having that problem, and it wasn't there with stock ROM.
Make me think it has to do with the software side of thing and nothing to do with SIM or radios. To pinpoint what is causing it, can be a tough task though.
scooper True, Hard task for people that don't know much about programming ROM and files, but maybe we can have help from other that wanna look at our problem.
I'm available to test if someone want to Help us .
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scooper True, Hard task for people that don't know much about programming ROM and files, but maybe we can have help from other that wanna look at our problem.
I'm available to test if someone want to Help us .
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You should try to change the radio and rom of your phone. Make sure to Task 29 b4 flashing. Another thing to make sure is you use the right radio, i mean the specific radio for telus, t-mobile or att.....
Wrong radio can also cause such problems.
I have the same issue with my Unlocked Tilt2 on Telus. I found a lot of people with unlocked winmo devices on bell/telus complaining of this problem and never have seen a solution. People say that a Fido sim will do the same thing. Only Rogers sims seem to not show roaming. PLEASE post if you find the solution or even cause of this.
I just did task29 and reflash ROM. I soon as I have the main menu Roaming Icon appear on top just beside or 3G.
Damn!! still stock with this roaming issue
anyone have Q's ?