Hello. I have been experiencing massive shortages of ram on my wizard. I started reading about all the different roms, and have friends that have tried the molski 30mb free rom. I also read about some others that pack much used stuff in the extended rom. My idea was to see if I would be able to make my own extended rom packed with some of my most used apps. To figure this out, I need to know a few things..... First, how large is the extended rom? Second, When you install programs from the extended rom, they install to the rom, right? (or extended rom? unsure here). If so, how much space is left in the rom for extended rom installs?
Is there an app that will load on my wizard and tell me rom info?
Basically I want to see if I can install stuff like wisbar, maybe even resco explorer into the extended rom to save on program space while saving ram using molski's 30mb free rom. This would give me more install space (very limited on that) and more ram (checking under couch cushions for any extra lately). Any usefull information would be greatly appreciated. TIA
*bump* Even help with search terms would help?! Ive tried just about anything I can think of and only find 100 page threads about cooked roms. Anything at all might help...
*bump* 87 ppl on this forum have read thism and someone must have seen something somewhere
I also have another question to add to the queue. How do you tell if your phone is CID unlocked? I know I sim unlocked it, but am not sure if the CID unlock worked or not. TIA for your help
Darkrift said:
Hello. I have been experiencing massive shortages of ram on my wizard. I started reading about all the different roms, and have friends that have tried the molski 30mb free rom. I also read about some others that pack much used stuff in the extended rom. My idea was to see if I would be able to make my own extended rom packed with some of my most used apps. To figure this out, I need to know a few things..... First, how large is the extended rom? Second, When you install programs from the extended rom, they install to the rom, right? (or extended rom? unsure here). If so, how much space is left in the rom for extended rom installs?
Is there an app that will load on my wizard and tell me rom info?
Basically I want to see if I can install stuff like wisbar, maybe even resco explorer into the extended rom to save on program space while saving ram using molski's 30mb free rom. This would give me more install space (very limited on that) and more ram (checking under couch cushions for any extra lately). Any usefull information would be greatly appreciated. TIA
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check my signature ,you will most what you need .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=968417
Read farias info, but i give u an intro: extrom is 10mb, installing something from extrom dont install in rom but in the device storage...
In any case the os free memory when he really need it automatically so i ask u a q, why do u think that u have memory outage problems?
I am low on memory (ram) and program storage memory. I installed molski's rom last night, but I am still really low on both. I have 6mb free program storage, and even after installing molski's 30mbfree rom, i have 16-20mb free ram. I have tried closing almost all of my programs, but this does not go up. I figured that if I installed a few of my most used programs in the extended rom, and they were installed to the rom (wasnt sure about this) that I would have some extra program storage memory. I am going to see if removing my today plugins helps at all, but I only have 3. Resco, and phone alarm (dont really need it now) and one that allows meto turn on bt/wifi with a single tap.
mmm...yea, i also have around 18mb and im using farias 3.2 rom (falls to around 6mb during startup, this is normal)...its normal for this kind of device...thats why i ask u why u need more memory...in any case if u try to run something that asks for more memory the chances r that the 200mhz processor r going to be another limit...example: 32mb gba roms, some car game mentioned around, (pocketquake?), etc...
and i have about 30mb free storage, but this is because i store allmost everithing in a 1gb minisd...
btw, i use batterystatus, agile and ilancher plugins...and vbar also running in background...
Darkrift said:
I installed molski's rom last night, .
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I tried also molski's ROM and after reboot tried get rid of extended ROM by pressing soft restart button after instalation completed(when it prompted that selfonciguration will take place after3 seconds).
After reboot I had abou 44 MB free memory in storage and about 30 MB in programs.
But this is ilusion after instalation few programs (2-3MB at all)checked memory again and it drops more then 13MB.
By reghacking registry it is possible to see extrom as "Extrom2" it is 10 MB with more than 9,8MB free space and it is not writable.
Unlocking extrom would be solution and I've tried several unlocking tools,but with zero succes so far
Thank you all for your replies. I guess I will just have to live with this as it is. I love this device and if it only had a faster cpu (like my axim x51) It would be perfect. I currently do not have many problems with it, but I would like to get it running the fastest that is possible.
Thx again.
did u tried omapclock?
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During the installation (Customization) it installs a file called from the extended rom
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_Wiz_range
Which installs “eTrust Antivirus for Pocket Pc”
If you miss this out of the install no slow down etc
to remove the file you need total commander ppc.
install it on the k-jam run it and then at the top input \Extended_Rom\
and move the file to your storage card/other folder on the ppc, hardreset the device and no more slow down
** be careful what you delete tho as it could cause problems etc etc, which I can not be accountable for etc etc ***
Great tip! I saw it first on PocketDubai and alreay appled it. Device works right now, I mean actually WORKS
yeah that must of been were i read it first, could not find the link, but figured i would post it here in case anyone missed it
The antivirus software DOES NOT install itself in hard reset (on my imate k-jam and others too). If its not listed in your "remove programs" then its not installed. So all this talk of the k-jam speeding up when you remove the cab file from the extended rom is pointless. Unless of course there are different roms on the devices?
Paul
It's not on mine either , its on the SP5 in the program window but not on my K-Jam . UK Version.. Like the Jam maybe there are differnt external ROM builds???
psneddon said:
The antivirus software DOES NOT install itself in hard reset (on my imate k-jam and others too). If its not listed in your "remove programs" then its not installed. So all this talk of the k-jam speeding up when you remove the cab file from the extended rom is pointless. Unless of course there are different roms on the devices?
Paul
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It does install and consume memory/storage/processor. An easy experiment is to do a cold boot of your device, then look at the storage and memory utilization. Next remove the file indicated and do a cold boot. Examine the numbers again and you will find that they are higher. Ergo something has been removed. I would say that the AV program removes itself from the Installed software list as a means of preventing Viruses from spotting it.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX
It does install, but it hides from the add remove programs list as robinton says
Mine doesn't seem to have anything antivirus related installed as applications or in the registry.
Is this confirmed and working and how much faster does this make the k-jam/how noticable?
Thx.
does anybody know if the QTEK 9100 installs the same anti-virus software? Just received mine yesterday and think that it runs really slowly in comparison to my old Ipaq 3850!!
I appreciate that it isn't an "apples for apples" comparison, but my IPaq is over 3 years old and runs like a dream - even put TT5 on it and it runs better than on brand new Qtek! :?:
Install total commander and find out.
I have the Sprint PCS (CDMA, US) version of this phone. The extended ROM includes a program that hides everything it loads from the add/remove programs list. I'm assuming the other versions do to.
Unfortunately my extended ROM space is visible, but not writeable or erasable.
I'm wondering, before I try it, will the same technique work for the SkyPE?
Ok, I'll reply to my own post.
I installed Total Commander. I went to the Extended_Rom dir, and moved the av and skype out and into My Docs. Did a hard reset and wham! No more av or skype. Skype was a 2.6m file. Funny thing is, Looking in My Docs, I don't find them.
The device is a bit more peppy now.
I can't seem to find the file mentioned anywhere in my extended ROM. I've using the KJAM WWE 1.1.9.106 EXTENDED ROM version.
Any ideas?
oli
I have WWE 1.1.9.104 EXTENDED ROM, that could be why.
Theres like 6 threads with like 50 pages each...and i've read almost all of them....but my question is which WM6 of crossbow are you using? So far i know theres
1. Chinese version
2. Stock leaked one
3. PDAViet 1
4. PDAViet 2
Which ones are you guys using and why? THanks for the responds guys
None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
im using pv2...it has nice little addons to it, and it seems to be smoother...
markgamber said:
None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
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But that's what makes them so FUN!
i totally agree with you guys. Thats what makes these roms fun. i just got tired of trying to decide which rom to mess with and all that fun crap. i just wanted to see what fellow modders were doing with their roms and what they learned and what they have accomplished. i see that on PDAViet 2 for some reason my screen keeps turning on. and sometimes my softkeys wont work. does any one by anychance have a solution to thi stuff? Thanks
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None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
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Agreed.
I tried them out, but they were pretty buggy and impossible to make everything run as smoothly as WM5.
I need stability and a smooth running PPC. Not some glitchy buggy unreliable WM6.
Plus WM6 adds zero true improvements. There is just no reason to use these pre-release versions.
I hope they get WM6 fixed up correctly before actually releasing it to the public or WM6 is going to suffer a horrible fate.
Need another option: My own cooked version
I cooked up my own version, modeling it after Risidoro and Molski's, adding all the cool TSK files, camera themes, ringtones, Ris' network tools, Adobe Acrobat LE. mbutton in ROM and in startup, Total Commander in ROM, enabling the ZIP tool, added traylaunch and battery status and adding in the faria camera fix.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks to Risidoro, Molski and Faria for the great tutorials. I spent hours working on this to get it working just like I want it.
Rom stats, from a fresh boot with mbutton and activesync running:
Storage:
Total: 47.46mb
In use: 10.87 mb
Free: 36.60 mb
Program:
Total: 49.70 mb
In user: 22.96 mb
Free: 26.72 mb
wow thats awesome bro! is your cooked rom a WM6?
deviusdragger said:
wow thats awesome bro! is your cooked rom a WM6?
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Yes. Sorry. It is the Orwell, I guess, one.
I just read about editing the HV files, so now my little cab file that I run afterward to add in MMS, GPRS, etc, will be integrated into the ROM directly, along with Midlet Manager, TRE and whatever else I can inject into it.
yeah i had to put all my internet and gprs settings my self from my other 8125. so far i like the way it looks and its running pretty good now that i took some stuff off the start up folder like tray launch and smartskey. dont really need them. i have pocketplus running just fine on there just like batterystatus and today plugin.
nightowl007 said:
Yes. Sorry. It is the Orwell, I guess, one.
I just read about editing the HV files, so now my little cab file that I run afterward to add in MMS, GPRS, etc, will be integrated into the ROM directly, along with Midlet Manager, TRE and whatever else I can inject into it.
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Can you share some experience about editing HV files? I can't find any sources for it. Thanks.
Well. Let me first say this.
Apparently what PDAViet has done to Faria's hard word and effort can simply not be justified imho.
To be honest I have PDA Viet2 installed. But that was before I read what they did with Faria's hard work. And I simply don't have time now to switch to another WM6 rom, otherwise I'd installed Faria's latest and greatest Rom 3.3.
Nevertheless I must say that the PDA Viet2 rom works fine on my MDA. Even my 4gb minisd works flawlessly (although i'm still looking for some tweaks to improve read/write performance with it). They also put some security to it with removing the windows update option (which apparently causes trouble to some users).
But, to stay loyal to Faria, just because that man really does great work, whenever there's another rom (a better one/more complete one) and I have some more time, I immediately switch to another rom.
I love WM6, on my device it runs so much more smoother than WM5 did, and after running the MMS cab patch, i'm fully sorted. All of my software work on it perfectly, it's extremely fast (i haven't even had to over clock it like i used to do at 240mhz).
I now want to really get into understanding how to tweak and create my own Roms.
Nightowl007 WM6 ROM
nightowl007 said:
Need another option: My own cooked version
I cooked up my own version, modeling it after Risidoro and Molski's, adding all the cool TSK files, camera themes, ringtones, Ris' network tools, Adobe Acrobat LE. mbutton in ROM and in startup, Total Commander in ROM, enabling the ZIP tool, added traylaunch and battery status and adding in the faria camera fix.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks to Risidoro, Molski and Faria for the great tutorials. I spent hours working on this to get it working just like I want it.
Rom stats, from a fresh boot with mbutton and activesync running:
Storage:
Total: 47.46mb
In use: 10.87 mb
Free: 36.60 mb
Program:
Total: 49.70 mb
In user: 22.96 mb
Free: 26.72 mb
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Release! Release! Release!
(...please?)
how did u do the mms cab patch. where did u get it from
hustle said:
how did u do the mms cab patch. where did u get it from
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read the forum
the one from here didnt work for me im on tmobile. i put in the settings n still nothing
i have mms arcsoft 3.0.9 something something.
what steps did u to make yours work
ARCSoft Inc MMS Composer 3.0.7.19.cab
i used that one
Files names
deviusdragger said:
Theres like 6 threads with like 50 pages each...and i've read almost all of them....but my question is which WM6 of crossbow are you using? So far i know theres
1. Chinese version
2. Stock leaked one
3. PDAViet 1
4. PDAViet 2
Which ones are you guys using and why? THanks for the responds guys
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I think we could get better results if people knoew how to identify which WM 6 rom they have.
I have orwell
the other day I downloaded 1.Crossbow_Underground_Edition.exe but I am not certain if this is updated
WM6 Upgrade on Wizard
Hey Guys I ran the WM6 orwell update and it did its thing, but when it rebooted it was still WM5 (blank no user data) do I have to do anything special after I disconnest?
Got the Tmobile wing, or HTC Herald. I'm trying to put preferably a 32bit EMU (e.g. PocketGBA) or at least a 16 bit EMU (Pocket SNES) on it. Used MemMaid to kill a bunch of programs but I'm still stuck without enough memory (RAM). Anyway anyone knows how to squeeze some more memory out of the Wing?
The best method IMHO is to allocate more to programs...since I have a 2GB Micro SD card I don't need storage, but can't seem to do it. And I don't know enough to find and change the memory allocation in the registry (if that's where it is)
Anyhelp?? I just want more memory, nothing fancy?? Suggestions? Looked through several forums and haven't found what I need.: p
Koijima said:
Got the Tmobile wing, or HTC Herald. I'm trying to put preferably a 32bit EMU (e.g. PocketGBA) or at least a 16 bit EMU (Pocket SNES) on it. Used MemMaid to kill a bunch of programs but I'm still stuck without enough memory (RAM). Anyway anyone knows how to squeeze some more memory out of the Wing?
The best method IMHO is to allocate more to programs...since I have a 2GB Micro SD card I don't need storage, but can't seem to do it. And I don't know enough to find and change the memory allocation in the registry (if that's where it is)
Anyhelp?? I just want more memory, nothing fancy?? Suggestions? Looked through several forums and haven't found what I need.: p
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The problem is the pagepool.
All cooked rom for wizard have 4 or 8MB pagepool because that´s enough. I guess on wing it is the normal 12MB - too much.
We have to cook smaler ones and we will get back the big RAM like 30MB.
Let´s wait for official update and start cooking without the possibility of bricking.
lol
Dang-it
I was hoping I didn't have to cook the rom, I've bricked things before and once burned....
Oh well I just want it to play GBA, (wanted to wait for PSP2 to come out to decide on getting a portable) I'll hang back and wait for a popular Aserg cooked OS or something. Something using the original windows mobile WWE edition.
Oh damn I've deleted stuff from my extrom, crap should have backed it up... I think it was only the tzone thing, still just in case. well I'll get around to it whenever..
Now to look up how to make sure I use 802.11g and not 802.11b
Thanks man.
papamopps;1304169 said:
The problem is the pagepool.
All cooked rom for wizard have 4 or 8MB pagepool because that´s enough. I guess on wing it is the normal 12MB - too much.
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I also have a wing and experiencing the same memory problems.. your saying that if i lower the "pagepool," a term I'm unfamiliar with, more program memory will be allocated after a soft reset; right now only 27% of the program memory is free after a soft reset. Is this pagepool thing a simple registry hack, or do u need to flash a custom rom to lower it? either way, can someone please explain to me how to lower the pagepool, or easier, a recommendation for a custom rom that allocates more program memory.. before I switched to the wing, my mda would always have atleast 50+% free program memory.. please help. thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313263
try your luck and post results in the thread pls
/edit: It worked for my device... 26.53 RAM Free now
Wing Memory Help?
I have a wing with 1.02 mb storage memory and 14.26 program memory with nothing running. I have installed all my cab.s on my 4 gig memory card. Am i doing something wrong? Why do I have so little memory? I have change the pagepoll to 4 mb's.
I have inastalled on my mem card:
sling player
audible logic and cardonware
ms live search
mud inc Kokonotsu
aserg policies
TCPMP the core pocket media player
Skunkworks Flashvideobundle
Spb weather
A_c Slide2unlock
Chi-Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD-plugin
I am sure I installed all the cab. files on my storage card.
Any insight or help woud be appreciated.
dstegner119 said:
I have a wing with 1.02 mb storage memory and 14.26 program memory with nothing running. I have installed all my cab.s on my 4 gig memory card. Am i doing something wrong? Why do I have so little memory? I have change the pagepoll to 4 mb's.
I have inastalled on my mem card:
sling player
audible logic and cardonware
ms live search
mud inc Kokonotsu
aserg policies
TCPMP the core pocket media player
Skunkworks Flashvideobundle
Spb weather
A_c Slide2unlock
Chi-Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD-plugin
I am sure I installed all the cab. files on my storage card.
Any insight or help woud be appreciated.
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Just a thought. Have you deleted your emails and cleared the temp files in your Internet Explorer?
In any case you should set it up so that these get saved on the storage card.
yes.. doing that on a regular bases does help but pagepool makes a big difference
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
yes.. doing that on a regular bases does help but pagepool makes a big difference
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Did you read that he already has pagepool set at 4mb?
patspdaphone said:
Did you read that he already has pagepool set at 4mb?
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i thought it was a better idea to set it to 6mb instead of 4mb??
im not sure whats better but i have the 4mb and it works great plenty of memory on a fresh reboot...about 25-27mb
With all applications closed, using the 4mb pagepool setting, I get 21mb.
Apparently each device is slightly different? Wouldn't it be nice if HTC had supplied more memory in the first place...and if Windows wasn't always sucking mem. for no reason
adam79 said:
I also have a wing and experiencing the same memory problems.. your saying that if i lower the "pagepool," a term I'm unfamiliar with, more program memory will be allocated after a soft reset; right now only 27% of the program memory is free after a soft reset. Is this pagepool thing a simple registry hack, or do u need to flash a custom rom to lower it? either way, can someone please explain to me how to lower the pagepool, or easier, a recommendation for a custom rom that allocates more program memory.. before I switched to the wing, my mda would always have atleast 50+% free program memory.. please help. thanks.
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I just got my Wing a couple of weeks ago, installed a new ROM and did the page pool and am very upset with the lack of storage memory. With my MDA I had both vanilla ROM's and full ROM's installed with lots of memory left any where from 24MB to 30MG free storage ram. With the Wing I had installed only a few programs like Intellisync for work, PocketCM all emails and IE cache are on the card, with this I have just 13 mg of storage space. I do not have the newest updated Office...when I tried to intstall it the old was not deleted but this just installed over it and took away precious memory.
I do miss the days of a full stocked cooked ROM with lots of storage memory. Am considering getting rid of this phone and getting something else.
I'm running about 20lb on average. I did have about 23mb before, but had to hard reset (for other reasons) and reconfigure everything. I think I need to see what else I can put on my storage card. Only using about 81mb right now, but was running about 250mb before. Going to reinstall a few programs onto the card today and see how much more I can free up.
Wow i am an idiot. I did figure this out. Thought I set it up to storage card but... anyway thanks,
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324594
much easier to do. I have 6mb pagepool set and when i boot up fresh i get just under 20mb of free ram with a total program memory of 49.89mb. I'd suggest the 6mb pagepool as many people have said the 4mb pagepool is too small and the device will suffer performance issues.
ok guys can ya help me?
which rom is best for these basic uses
do i need a ram disk?
if so will tom tom run better from ramdisk?
I have tried a few of the WM6 roms and
I just cant seem to choose.
i use my xda for
tomtom
watching vids
taking pics
wireless internet
lots of calls n txt
I have a 1gb SD card with tomtom n maps on oh and loads of vids n pics
any ideas at moment running
Syed Ather's WM6 ROM for HIMA
Basic Version : 32MB RAMDisk
radio 1.17
imo all roms are good....differences between them are really not visible 4 common user...
Go for the rom which runs the applications you use most fast and stable. For many people one of the deciding factors is ramdisk and storage memory. These spaces can be used to install apps etc. Apps installed here will run(or at least load) faster than apps installed on storage card.
rom
ok think i will stick with the basic version it seems to be ok
for my use,
will try the premium version on my other xda and work my way
round all the roms and see how they run for me
cheers
Hello
I thought it'd be a good idea to create a list of the different memory rates of the different roms (cooked & stock), as not all of them list memory usage, and it'd be good to have them all in one place [I'm thinking Wiki, if we get this list complete enough].
Please help me create this list.
Thanks in advance,
Panarchy
PS: Write what entries you know of in reply;
PPS: First entry;
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# JackOS S2 v1.6 #
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JackFULL: 111MB free (42% used)
SkrobPRO: 114MB free (41% used)
ManilaRUSH: 115MB free (40% used)
ShowLITE: 119MB free (38% used)
SmartMOVE: 124MB free (35% used)
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Energy CHT - 60MB free. Although it varies from each update. and you really need to post if it's running max sense, cht, or stock wm interface.
This is going to be kind of hard to keep up to date. Because new versions of each ROM keep being released on a regular basis, and their memory figures may change.
Also, you need to make sure you get memory figures from the clean ROM with nothing else installed on top. Even going to some Sense tabs uses up RAM space (try it and see after a reboot).
energy roms use 70% of memory
this thread is a good idea but i think it will be very hard to keep up with. and youll get entries that will just irritate some people hah.
maybe use ranges instead of being exact. i dunno lol.
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energy roms use 70% of memory
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Umm, are you serious ? Which version of EnergyROM exactly ? There are loads of variants of EnergyROM, with varying memory usage.
All of them
I use to only use energy roms but they honestly got so overloaded with apps and options that with the current Rhodium device im useing it became un-usable.. Im now running ""Jacko's full"" best rom ive seen thus far
i like ShowLITE from Jackos its pretty fast! too bad the dialer is messed up stupid tilt 2