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which ROM is the fastest in speed (for O2 minis)?
thanks 4 reading!
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2.67.12 is the fastest by far
thanks for reading
i'm joking ofcourse
if you actually spent the time to READ the forum YOURSELF you'd know the answer yourself already....dont be lazy and expect the work be done for you...
rom speed is very subjective anyways as there is no baseline for the standard configurations....some have registry tweaks some dont so it's comparing apples to oranges
chudy said:
2.67.12 is the fastest by far
thanks for reading
i'm joking ofcourse
if you actually spent the time to READ the forum YOURSELF you'd know the answer yourself already....dont be lazy and expect the work be done for you...
rom speed is very subjective anyways as there is no baseline for the standard configurations....some have registry tweaks some dont so it's comparing apples to oranges
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You know people come here for advice NOT sarcasm!
I have been a forum memebr form some time and I knwo that when I originally came here I also did not know what was best for my phone.
It was only through the help of curteous members that I managed to understand what was going on.
Save your sarcasm for yourself! :twisted:
besides my beta rom i would vote for molski's 2.26.. its what i based mine off of... its the fastest i have come in contact with
oooo, looks like i got you mad paul...tough :roll:
maybe if you were such a helpful soul you should've concentrated on the original poster's question instead of thread crapping. I was merely suggesting he/she get familiar with the forum as it's a vast wealth of information.
if bachikho would have come in with an educated question which showed some kind of effort i'd be more than happy to help but the OP was obviously meant as an easy way out...or so i see it and i'm entitled to my opinion.
as far as rom's go, bachikho, your o2 mini s is a variant of the htc wizard and as things stand right now i'd try reading about the aku2.3 roms that are floating around. they seem to be the fastest and the most stable at the moment. Molski's and mrclean are my favs. I'm currently running the aku 3.2 rom and i'd stay away from it for now.
I agree with chudy, searching and reading is best. If everyone searched and read the forums, we wouldn't have these same questions being asked over and over. I've CID unlocked, SIM unlocked, registry tweaked, changed many different ROMs on my various Wizard (And Universal) devices I've owned this year w/o asking a single question because everything I needed was found using the search feature, simple as that.
Back on topic; I've tried several ROMs, including some of Summiter's cooked ROMs and the fastest one I've tried is the Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 ROM. I haven't tried some of the latest ones; still enjoying Mr. Clean too much
I disagree with Chudy. There are a myriad of posts and pages to read about the various ROMs and it's not easy, maybe even possible, to work out (without trying them) which ROM might be the fastest from all the information given.
Paul makes a valid point, there is no need to be sarcastic. If you didn't like the question bachikho asked, you could have easily ignored it instead of being so pompus.
Shogunmark's answer was succinct and to the point, as was the last paragraph of DavidT's. Those are the types of answer that we are after.
achick, thank you for the very necessary and beautifully eloquent rebuttal to my reply to the OP. I almost had to whip out a dictionary You adding your two cents to the off-topic thread crapping is appreciated by everyone I'm sure.
in this open forum, everyone is fee to express their opinions. since we're expressing our feelings and emotions cause thats what we should expect from a technical forum, i do warmly thank you again for pointing out the obvious and putting it in one succinct post for us to digest along with your affectionate commentary, all of which has everything to do with ROMs. Way to go, keeping your eyes on the ball! Takes me back to my college psychology class and the pointless discussion sessions (sorry i come from an engineering background)...
now, lets get back on track...since the OP stemmed from the need for speed in a ROM it sure would be nice to establish some kind of baseline testing methodology. Is anyone familiar with any pocket pc benchmark applications? I'm wondering if there is something analogous to 3dmark or Sandra In the Pocket PC world.
Has anyone tried any of the tools listed in the link below?
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Developer-Tools/Benchmarks/
i think i'll try some of them if there is no de-facto standard already in use and compare my aku2.3 and aku3.2 roms....i'll be back to report back with some results later on (and i promise to stay on-topic )
chudy,
did not mean to rain on your parade. Im just used to all the people on this forum to be very helpful and attentive.
I see that you have in fact been just that after your replies..
Kudos to you!
:lol:
I am going to try the rom posted by risidoro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61997
I also am in dire need to update my phone ROM. I reading everything form Xelecin not cooking any more roms, I think the one above seems to fit the need nicely since it is based off of a Tmobile Rom.
Cheers all.
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I disagree with Chudy. There are a myriad of posts and pages to read about the various ROMs and it's not easy, maybe even possible, to work out (without trying them) which ROM might be the fastest from all the information given.
Paul makes a valid point, there is no need to be sarcastic. If you didn't like the question bachikho asked, you could have easily ignored it instead of being so pompus.
Shogunmark's answer was succinct and to the point, as was the last paragraph of DavidT's. Those are the types of answer that we are after.
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Thanks achick
quick and to the point is all you need... and i do feel that some n00bs feel the need to post the same questions over and over cause either A. they get flamed for answering the same question and never really get a good answer.. and B. because so many n00bs ask the same questions it clutters up the board for doing searches.. its kinda like [email protected] if you do, [email protected] if you dont...
i would also like to mention that there are so many roms on the ftp that finding the one that best works for you is merely trial and error, i cant even count how many different roms i tried before i found one that worked great.. then i grew a set of [email protected] and cooked my own
You could do what I do. . . just go to the rom posts, in the forum, with the many trailing pages of replies. lol That way, you know what problems to expect.
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You could do what I do. . . just go to the rom posts, in the forum, with the many trailing pages of replies. lol That way, you know what problems to expect.
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lol.. that doesnt always indicate problems.. in the case of my beta, there hasnt really been any problems, most of it is just extra freeware apps people want.. or little extra goodies that people want for improvement, but nothing wrong with the actual rom itself.. judging by the many posts on mine and the comments of others it seems to be a very fast and stable rom
I think the T-Mobile AKU 2.5 is the fastest ... That's what I noticed when working with it ...
Fast is a relative thing. Some are faster than others but unstable. Others are not quite as fast but more stable. The stock T-mobile 2.26 is pretty fast and rock solid. That AKU 3.x is supposively very fast and, judging by the now almost useless thread, very unstable. So pick your poison. I use the stock T-Mobile 2.26 rom because this is my phone, not an expensive toy waiting to be turned into a paperweight, and what good is fast when it resets on it's own every 10 minutes?
I have been using the risidoro ROM for several days now and I really like it.
has a ton of great features built into the ROM that I normally would have to install myself.
I have tweaked a few things and I have to say that my phone boots much faster now and also memory use is MUCH better than before due to his registry tweaks to offload mem usage to the SD card.
I recommend it! :lol:
I have also been using the risidoro custom rom, and it does marvles for me. And he is always checking the thread to help a fellow noob out.
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Got my kaiser/tytn2 today
So I am leaving herald community and venturing over to kaiser.
What do that mean for herald? Well, Im gonna finish my 3 latest projects. The rom for p4350 wwe, and the norwegian rom. And ofcourse I will finish the tutorial.
But thats not all I am gonna do, I am gonna upload the sys, oem and rom folders for both wing and p4350. And I am also gonna upload a section of oem packages, some I have made, but mostly stuff I have found all over the forum. I will make it easy and add the oem packages into the OEM kitchen folder. This means that when you choose to build your rom, you will get a list of whats inside the oem folder, and then you can check or uncheck w/e you want to include in your rom.
The files and folders are no longer limited to personal use, if you wanna share your rom, please do so. But the condition will be that all roms released using the kitchen files (oem, rom and sys) a note with credits to the one spending alot of hours building for you
Im not leaving completly, incase some few are gonna miss me Im gonna check in once in a while and help out, and follow some up on the tutorial.
I cant promise this will be done this weekend, but I can promise that it will be all finished sometime before next weekend. That include the tutorial.
Now Im gonna dump my norwegain kaiser, and see what can be done with it
cheers
We'll miss you... unless you buy me a Kaiser, and then I'll just be happy along with you. lol
Anyhoo, I think my kitchen is finally done, (I've yet to try out the last ROM I've made) and it's all thanks to your base ROM (Minus some tweaking...)
I'll also be using Hyperkitchen to make some more tweaked ROMs. Hopefully, I'll become the next itje... without a kaiser...
Congrats my friend and excellent that you received your kaiser. Is it the Kaiser 120 (with 3meg pixel camera and and video calling capabilities)? This is definitely a step up for you (and your phone, lol). This is a step I look forward to making in a month. Although you're going to be relocating to the Kaiser forum and your new home will be there, your frequent presence and guidance here will be missed for sure .. and I will go out on a limb to say that's on the behalf of everyone here, lol. I'm sure that forum will treasure your insight and expertise. I'm also happy to hear you're not just leaving us, you're still going to make guest appearances here, LOL, and remain a consultant (sort of speak) for us amateur and experienced rom cookers.
Remember, you can always come back HOME (here, lol), if thing don't work out over there, LOL.
As for me, I'm using your latest beta version now, but I think I'm going to downgrade and use version 2 for my herald instead due to it's stability, until you have the final versions posted. I'm struggling with the keyboard issue, lol. Itje, Thank you for everything. PS .. The kaiser forum will be my new home in a month anyway, lol. So look forward to picking your brain, lol.
Congrats on the new handset. I know Ive been eyeballing the kaiser for a while but I need T-Mobile to carry it so I can get the employee discount.
I think I can speak for the rest of the herald and wing users when I say that we appreciate all the work you've put into the wing and herald. And of course, I cant wait for the finished tutorial!
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Congrats my friend and excellent that you received your kaiser. Is it the Kaiser 120 (with 3meg pixel camera and and video calling capabilities)? This is definitely a step up for you (and your phone, lol). This is a step I look forward to making in a month. Although you're going to be relocating to the Kaiser forum and your new home will be there, your frequent presence and guidance here will be missed for sure .. and I will go out on a limb to say that's on the behalf of everyone here, lol. I'm sure that forum will treasure your insight and expertise. I'm also happy to hear you're not just leaving us, you're still going to make guest appearances here, LOL, and remain a consultant (sort of speak) for us amateur and experienced rom cookers.
Remember, you can always come back HOME (here, lol), if thing don't work out over there, LOL.
As for me, I'm using your latest beta version now, but I think I'm going to downgrade and use version 2 for my herald instead due to it's stability, until you have the final versions posted. I'm struggling with the keyboard issue, lol. Itje, Thank you for everything. PS .. The kaiser forum will be my new home in a month anyway, lol. So look forward to picking your brain, lol.
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yeah it has 3mpix and video..its full htc kaiser tytn2
itje said:
yeah it has 3mpix and video..its full htc kaiser tytn2
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nice one itje will miss you too when you are not often around here in the herald forums ....
but the best thing is that you will upload the oem packages, sys and oem folder and that you will finish the tutorial. THIS IS F****NG GREAT
You will be missed.
Have fun with your new phone, I'm not quite ready to upgrade. I think I am going to see what HTC has up its sleeve next. Thanks for everything.
ITJE, I heard the Kaiser is a piece of crap. I suggest you get rid of it and stay with the Herald.
Seriously, I really appreciate all the work that you've done and given me much inspiration on cooking my own ROM for the Wing. You were like my Faria from the MDA forum when I used to carry that around.
I hope you enjoy your shiny new toy.
Lets have a farewell party and get drunk!!! haha
Oh, I am going to buy the kaiser whenver T-mobile USA releases it...
Its way too rich for my blood! Wing will do for now.
i don't mean to be a butt, but (lol) didn't you say that if we recooked and released one of your roms, you would stop cooking for herald? So now, can we do so without your permission? Or would you like to set another policy.
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i don't mean to be a butt, but (lol) didn't you say that if we recooked and released one of your roms, you would stop cooking for herald? So now, can we do so without your permission? Or would you like to set another policy.
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Ah.. butt you are(s)...
Butt.....dont you know how to read my friend?
butt..maybe I cant write....lol
the policy is, do whatever you want, Butt....!! remember, never forget, always remember, dont let it slip away, hold on to IT..get IT?
and no butts this time
said the atheist "Oh lord have mercy"
point taken. Let the (proverbial) floodgates open
cool it
wow kaiser, its like a fresh pair of boobs haha. naw really though u are the epidimy of the godfather for the wing and herald. u will be missed.
( we must learn to walk on our own feet )tutorial and research!
itje said:
Got my kaiser/tytn2 today
So I am leaving herald community and venturing over to kaiser.
What do that mean for herald? Well, Im gonna finish my 3 latest projects. The rom for p4350 wwe, and the norwegian rom. And ofcourse I will finish the tutorial.
But thats not all I am gonna do, I am gonna upload the sys, oem and rom folders for both wing and p4350. And I am also gonna upload a section of oem packages, some I have made, but mostly stuff I have found all over the forum. I will make it easy and add the oem packages into the OEM kitchen folder. This means that when you choose to build your rom, you will get a list of whats inside the oem folder, and then you can check or uncheck w/e you want to include in your rom.
The files and folders are no longer limited to personal use, if you wanna share your rom, please do so. But the condition will be that all roms released using the kitchen files (oem, rom and sys) a note with credits to the one spending alot of hours building for you
Im not leaving completly, incase some few are gonna miss me Im gonna check in once in a while and help out, and follow some up on the tutorial.
I cant promise this will be done this weekend, but I can promise that it will be all finished sometime before next weekend. That include the tutorial.
Now Im gonna dump my norwegain kaiser, and see what can be done with it
cheers
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Nice that you are finishing the new Norwegian rom for the P4350 I just wanna thank you for all your hard work and i'm happy that there are people like tou oute there .. hehe..
We will all miss you
Reading this thread seems that Itje had bigger problems. Luckily his bigger problem by now is getting used to his new device.
Thank you for all your efforts and nice work. All of your "betatesters" come to this thread to say goodbye. That's quite nice. Maybe the forum masters should consider creating a hall-of-fame for all of those who made it worth visiting daily. You have my vote.
Good luck and, who knows, maybe be meet again at the kaiser's forum.
P.S. Again, I'll be connecting daily hoping to find your (last) releases...
so itje when do you think you will release all your stuff here? cant wait to grab it off and take your position in the herald forums maybe i will be the next rom cooker. until now i have read much hours instuctions to build an own rom and i had no problem using your excellent instruction you posted here .....
miss ya maybe i will catch up a kaiser to and follow you *smile*
Just wanted to say thanks to itje, if it wasnt for your ROMS i would have jumped ship to the Kaiser along time ago! I guess I was spoilt as a Wizard user with all the roms available, but it was nice to have at least one chef for the herald. Thanks again.
Thanks Man,
If you didn't help with the roms... a piec of this phone would have ended up in a tmo reps A$$..
Thanks again
enjoy the incresed power!
please do not resurrect month old threads. sorry if i sound like a butt (no reference to past posts intended, but it IS convenient)
I will miss you man.
With all that I read here, I notice one thing... a lot of people think only ONE and ONE ROM only exists. So I'm wondering now who uses what...
If you're using ANY of TouchIT 4.x's, whether the normal ones or ITsBlack, please choose TouchIT V4 since I can't edit the poll.
ivanmmj said:
With all that I read here, I notice one thing... a lot of people think only ONE and ONE ROM only exists. So I'm wondering now who uses what...
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sorry - but you read this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030
if one is missing.... I started at page 11 from Heraldforum.....
I mean this to be a census. I wanted to know who was using what, not to tell people what was around and the links to it. Sorry. ^_^
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I mean this to be a census. I wanted to know who was using what, not to tell people what was around and the links to it. Sorry. ^_^
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and i wanted to say. please tell me if i have to update the thread thx. i guess i missed some roms
Ohhhh. lol ok
Will do. I'll update this post in a minute. On the phone right now...
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Ohhhh. lol ok
Will do. I'll update this post in a minute. On the phone right now...
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I'm heart broken, no body is using my Open Touch roms.
Maybe I should stop making them...
People that are using my rom, please vote, I would like to see if my free time is going to waste or not.
lol
Thanks,
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I'm heart broken, no body is using my Open Touch roms.
Maybe I should stop making them...
People that are using my rom, please vote, I would like to see if my free time is going to waste or not.
lol
Thanks,
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Around half the people use it. lol They just haven't voted, yet. I think it's gonna be itje a little more than half. You about half... me 3 people. lol
11 ppl have votet up to now
let the poll run 4 awhile
There are many ppl coming to this forum, but some ppl never post anythig. they just download what they want and say nothing
to bad....
com'on ppl, be more active bring more ppl in
The more people that contribute, the more innovations we can come up with (or take from other devices... lol)
Alrite,
My rom is tied with the Stock Rom, looks like I might need to rename my rom from Open Touch To Lonely Touch...
Lol
i think most people who visit this forum are Herald users and not Wing users. So the poll should reflect that too. I personally love Open Touch.
dongo1 said:
i think most people who visit this forum are Herald users and not Wing users. So the poll should reflect that too. I personally love Open Touch.
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What do you mean? TouchIT's V3 and V4 are Herald only. Did I miss any Herald only ROMs?
wat he mean is, there is more herald user so that will make touch it be a favorable rom and generally speaking if you buy a herald from the factory u are a advance user and probably will post more in the forums. Most post are from herald users!!! (I think outside the box)
Open Touch 2.x all the way =] Clean, fast, and easy as all heck to install. All you cooks keep up the good work!
ttran001 said:
I'm heart broken, no body is using my Open Touch roms.
Maybe I should stop making them...
People that are using my rom, please vote, I would like to see if my free time is going to waste or not.
lol
Thanks,
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I'm using it and i like it! woohoo!
I'm again on canonyang's ROM(PDAviet). Its not there in the list
hmm why there are no "my own" or "any pdaviet" options?
im currently using latest pdaviet 5.2.1938 and its best for me because of speed and for addition i have allergic reactions for "touch things"..
why nobody cares about speed and amount of ram? there are many things that can be upxed, placed in xip, deleted...
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why nobody cares about speed and amount of ram? there are many things that can be upxed, placed in xip, deleted...
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Exactly the reason I use PDAviet 4.17.07.16(5.2.1933 build 18533.0.7.0) WWE(canonyang). I m allergic to Touch stuff
edit: @slemag: is the 5.2.1933 faster than the one I'm using? Is it avaliable without touch stuff too?
i do not know.. i used 6roms since last sunday when i bought my herald.. 1938build which im using now is much faster than touchit and the battery leaks slower. but something still draning all my precious mAh...
i used 1933 to short to tell you it is faster or not.
this rom is not much "touched" - ive got finnaly NORMAL wm6 dialer which is much more usefull than touchdialer (especialy black dialer with black fonts..)
rom that i using can be good basem rom for making quick rom but memory still disapear sometime - like in 1933 and 1908. when i resolve my problem with battery ill try to port build "318" (i dont remember full number) and/or whole Nothin's Paradox rom which is the best i used with my old wizard. ~37mb ram free and best stability/speed. but now ive got few exams and i need to study hard :/
People in general always wants the new things in this case CustomROMs .
So I believe the most up to date ROMs are in higher usage and more spread,
because those of us who come here are not the regular user who sticks with the stock ROM and settings.
Personally I would like to give Ivan's new ROM a try once it's out. Really looking forward.
But right now I stick with IT'sBlack, not sure if I update to Touch-IT 4.4 yet.
The Open Touch ROMs are only for the Wings so I won't use them (my only reason) and Open Touch 1.0 is too outdated for me to put it on my terra.
In general I don't have a favourite ROM, I just use that ROM with gives me the most satisfaction and thats lately ITje's ROMs.
I guess with the release of OpenTouch 2.5 for the Wing owners it gonna be as popular as the Touch-It 4.0 and successors.
Updated and maintained releases are always in the favor of this little community.
Thanks to all of you who are devoting their free time to give us pleasure with our Heralds and Wings.
I wish to know all WM 6.5 roms and possibly a link to thread of it!!
Oh and name pros and cons (+ and -) of them!!!!
for now Im looking at a realy fast (like kwbr roms) and a very reliable(no hangs freezes and so on)!!!!
THNX in advance!!!!
Geez man, do you want us to come to you, download and install for you as well?
Come on mate you should know better!
homer285 said:
Geez man, do you want us to come to you, download and install for you as well?
Come on mate you should know better!
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Hehe -- I just DONT WANT TO install a rom and after that BE DISSAPOINTED about it!!!! So comon !!! Sugestions!!
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
Hehe -- I just DONT WANT TO install a rom and after that BE DISSAPOINTED about it!!!! So comon !!! Sugestions!!
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How about reading through the threads to see which one you might like to try?!? I don't think anyone wants to do your job for you, after all it is your device
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
Hehe -- I just DONT WANT TO install a rom and after that BE DISSAPOINTED about it!!!! So comon !!! Sugestions!!
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How can we know what will dissapoint you? Just try it, and if you don't like, choose another rom.
The time you have wasted creating this thread could be used better .
**** THE **** is with you people!!!! I am not asking you to read the threads and decide!!!
I JUST WISH Y'ALL TO GIVE ME YOUR OPINION ABOUT WM 6.5 ROM
Almost the new WM6.5 roms are equal...
So feel free to try one of the latest ones.
Its hard people say that "x" or "y" is the better one. I respect the coockers at XDA and so i refuse to say wich one to choose. So all i can say is to get one of the latest you find around.. they´re all almost the same thing in terms of speed and stability.
Or in other hand... you can always wait for the real one
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**** THE **** is with you people!!!! I am not asking you to read the threads and decide!!!
I JUST WISH Y'ALL TO GIVE ME YOUR OPINION ABOUT WM 6.5 ROM
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We are asking YOU to read the threads....
.....or go to iPhone
I Agree wis kristaps, im also very confused, bout which ROM is better!
so, i would also like a few pro's and con's for al the ROM..
If you not wish to leve pro's and con's
then just do not reply...
I mean comn, the gus is aksing a normal question!
Why are you all being so agressive!
i talk for myself. Im not beeing agressive... but why not just try one of the latest ones? Who am i to say that "x" or "y" is better?
They´re almost the same thing.. just pick one
well i guess you could tell us which YOU like better?
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well i guess you could tell us which YOU like better?
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I am thinking about Miri WM 6.5 21198 :: V 5.2 --- but its just because that rom has been around for the longest time and all the bugs should be worked out!!!!
But maybe I am wrong about those bugs!!!!
it drives me nuts when someone responds to these types of questions with **** like "LoL LERN TO READ"... or which is akin to "how about reading through the 2000+ posts on each rom to try to decipher whether or not it may or may not work the way you want it to, when in reality it would take me the same amount of time to type a valid response like [Hey, i use the so and so 6.5 rom and it works great for me, its fast, responsive, etc]... "
for jesus sake just answer the question or ignore the thread. I get my touch HD today, so i don't have any good advice, but i'm asking the same question this guy is. I don't have the time to browse through 65 pages of posts on each rom to find out the +/-
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it drives me nuts when someone responds to these types of questions with **** like "LoL LERN TO READ"... or which is akin to "how about reading through the 2000+ posts on each rom to try to decipher whether or not it may or may not work the way you want it to, when in reality it would take me the same amount of time to type a valid response like [Hey, i use the so and so 6.5 rom and it works great for me, its fast, responsive, etc]... "
for jesus sake just answer the question or ignore the thread. I get my touch HD today, so i don't have any good advice, but i'm asking the same question this guy is. I don't have the time to browse through 65 pages of posts on each rom to find out the +/-
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Well atleast Im not the only one!!!!!
Oh and congratulations on your new device!!!!
I would suggest miri's 6.5 ROM since thats the only one I have tested and felt it was fast and stable enough for the daily use.
I also like Davide's and HelloNasty cooking... but I have not flased their 6.5 ROMs lately.. so cannot comment on 'em.
Having said the above, I would also say, you cannot escape away from reading thorugh the threads... No one in the right mind would go thorugh every page of the 100 odd pages of the thread. You would usually browse through the last 5 or 10 pages to see what are the issues that are being discussed. Chefs release versions regulary fixing the problems. So it would make no sense reading about problems from earlier versions of the ROM that you have flashed. Especially the chef like "miri" released a ROM version almost every day... In fact he even released 2 version within 24 hrs.
So, flash any one of the latest versions of the ROMs by reading through the last few pages of the thread.
Hello everyone !
I agree with both of your comments.
As the firsts post said, sometimes you can't decide wich rom is better (cuz obviously there isn't).
You can't also say "oh that cooker suck" cuz i think even the worst cooker put 100000x more time, love anb contribution to this awesome comunity than people who send those kind of ugly remarks. I'm so impressed by rom cookers.
Secondly, it also depends of your daily uses, for instance i love fast and stable rom with nothing in it (like dutty's one) but some ppl like to have ton's of usefull apps ....
So yeah okay, you have to spend some time reading the board but it's not easy when you work 10h+ a day like me.
But on the other hand, it can always be appreciate when people who have time to test roms to give +/- advices.
For instance i'm reading posts speaking of 6.5 i'm very tempted but i have some questions :
- is it as fast as some dutty's rom for example (i'm saying dutty i only tryed his rom and love it)
- is it user friendly as manila ?
- will i be desapointed ?
It's also a pain when you have to read 207 pages of comments to know where to go, especially when comment's are "I installed this uber app of the death but it's not working with this rom gimme a fix" or "gogo change this icon i don't like it".
so ok tommorow i'll spend 1h to flash and test a 6.5 rom made by all those pro cookers but if i have 2/3 clues about wich one to pick or even if it's not necessary to try because 6.5 will not be as fast as 6.1 I think it can be always helpfull to have answers to those kind of questions.
But okay if noone have some precise advices i'll spend another hour or two to read all 6.5 rom posts it is just always nice and kind to help those in needs (i didn't said respond to very stupid questions of ppl who don't want to search 3sec about "how can i change my wallpaper" or "how can i make a call my provider is orange bla bla bla")
I'm glad when I see this kind of community and when everyone share his wisdom, please let's keep the same spirit.
See ya around,
Veskit
Both Mirri and HelloNasty are ok, Mirri has app. one to two frezze per day, is better concerning battery lenght, has nice dialer, but when going from messages to home freezez.
Nasty has a lot more applications, almost no need to install anything extra, but also freezez from time to time and aets battery like crazy.
PhamQuang is nice, but more for manilla oriented, and not working to good with lock app.
All together it's still raw beta and not ready for everyday / primetime.
Still very promising
hope this helps You
Like everyone else said, there are a fair few WM 6.5 ROM's try reading about them, see what bugs they have, see what fixes have been cooked in, etc. etc.
Thanks
Dave
Pretty wierd, Itje has been in-active for a couple of days (probably due to easter) and all of a sudden everybody is "releasing" roms like its there speciality?
And when i read these threads and somebody askes a simple thing as "are you putting youtube in it?" i see answers like "it is pretty hard to get youtube up and running, i dont know how to do that"..
Is this something everybody wants to see? Imo cooking/releasing roms should be done only by people who have the knowledge and knowhow off everything.
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Pretty wierd, Itje has been in-active for a couple of days (probably due to easter) and all of a sudden everybody is "releasing" roms like its there speciality?
And when i read these threads and somebody askes a simple thing as "are you putting youtube in it?" i see answers like "it is pretty hard to get youtube up and running, i dont know how to do that"..
Is this something everybody wants to see? Imo cooking/releasing roms should be done only by people who have the knowledge and knowhow off everything.
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If they want to try to cook, why not?
It's only a win-win situation
They learn more & have more experiences and maybe they'll even getting better than Itje
very very succinctly put..
jerpeleas kitchen is very very simple to use.
and is perfect for creating that "personal rom"
unfortunately, whats happening is what often happens, and is that everyone suddenly decides to throw out that personal rom for public consumption.
now i think its great that people are trying things out, but i do think, ladies and gentlemen that you should keep your experiments a bit more "internal" at least till you understand what you're doing a bit better..
please??
fards said:
very very succinctly put..
jerpeleas kitchen is very very simple to use.
and is perfect for creating that "personal rom"
unfortunately, whats happening is what often happens, and is that everyone suddenly decides to throw out that personal rom for public consumption.
now i think its great that people are trying things out, but i do think, ladies and gentlemen that you should keep your experiments a bit more "internal" at least till you understand what you're doing a bit better..
please??
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Agreed. Glad to see more cooks or more people willing to learn to cook. But sad to see lots of them either unfinished, or not tested fully w/ lots of bugs here and there. And I don't see any unique features/characteristic/fixes among most of them since all are based on the same kitchen without going into details to learn and create.
In other words, people, if you wanna try to cook your own roms thats your own choice, but stop the posting on the forums if there arent any new feautures/bug fixes in it.
alway nice to see more people cooking.
but like myself i cooked a rom with jerpelea's kitchen.
i twisted and turned allot over and made it to my personal favors.
but i won't release for public just because it is to my own taste and i know that allot of peoplehere have different choises and willings.
it's great that cooking is made easy for everybody but if you don't have the real knowledge like our first timer chefs keep it for yourself and enjoy it as much as you can!
but hey..
that's just me
The word is not "cook" kids: it's READ and SEARCH.
Spread the word
I cook
You cook
He cooks
She cooks
We cook
You cook
They cook
But jerpelea is the biggest cooker of them all !!
Been cooking since january over WinMo 6.5, nothing worth sharing yet... until jerpelea uploaded his kitchen and I solved 6 weeks of problems in 6 minutes:
I eagerly read all 49 pages of his suggestions/tips, and included a couple of his packages into my own recipe, now I can fire the oven
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alway nice to see more people cooking.
but like myself i cooked a rom with jerpelea's kitchen.
i twisted and turned allot over and made it to my personal favors.
but i won't release for public just because it is to my own taste and i know that allot of peoplehere have different choises and willings.
it's great that cooking is made easy for everybody but if you don't have the real knowledge like our first timer chefs keep it for yourself and enjoy it as much as you can!
but hey..
that's just me
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yup I've been cooking my own for a while now, but I've never released one.. mostly as I do it to learn more..
ive made 6.5/manila2 roms but havnt uploaded them because of this whole situation.
I do think however its better that ppl make their own roms and learn more about their phones then being a drone to somone else.
Its too bad that some in the past ruined it for some to truelly learn what needs to be changed in some cases. because alot of cooks are protecting their roms. so disecting their rom to see whats really in it is a bit harder then normal.
not speaking down to itje or about him. but if we were able to truely dissasemble his rom we could find out why myfaves doesnt work.
but cooking my own rom i got myfaves working but using jerpelea kitchen i get dumb little bugs
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but stop the posting on the forums if there arent any new feautures/bug fixes in it.
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That's not what I mean. But I wish new cooks instead to rush out a buggy rom (especially for 6.5 which is still beta and still with lots of issues w/ X1), could spent more time in clean up and bugfix, then release an tested and quality rom. It just a waste of time of you and your users if your rom is too buggy to be useful. Or released roms w/ features/softwares w/ bugs and issues that you don't have idea how to get them fix.
I kinda like to see all the new ROMS out. We went from 1 or 2 to a bunch. Granted there are a lot of buggy ROMS and people should do a lot more searching and more beta testing but being one of the new cooks i can see the reason for trying to release it. Some people use there phones completely differently that you do so i would think that others would find bugs that you don't. I know when i released my lite rom there were issues that i never even thought of trying so i had like 5 versions in like 2 weeks.
Most people don't add new features because a lot of the stuff is hard to come by in my opinion that is. They just release a different take on the programs and features.
I dunno just my take....
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Its too bad that some in the past ruined it for some to truelly learn what needs to be changed in some cases. because alot of cooks are protecting their roms. so disecting their rom to see whats really in it is a bit harder then normal.
not speaking down to itje or about him. but if we were able to truely dissasemble his rom we could find out why myfaves doesnt work.
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I am not sure if this is his true intention. But you got to understand this is the side effect that the Bepe's kitchen he use (which is a lot more effieicent and easy to manage, and I start to use it as well since my V3.x series).
In fact, Itje is very generous in sharing what he could share in the Chef sharing thread, or his own threads w/ the helps from Fards, Akp99 (man, how come I don't have such an helpful team???). All you need is search, or ask the right man.
I have seen the same thing..
I welcome new chefs..its all good, but as said before, its not the "real" work of chefs, its more a "Ikea" sollution, buy/get the kitchen parts..put it together and use it at home...
And as jack said, please guys keep making roms..its cool..but rather then releasing roms that others has made (Jerpelea) try to make one from scratch...
I must also admit with this new wave of chefs, it also keeps getting very annoying that many of the new rom makers keep sending pm's, e-mails and adds me to msn. It didnt bother me at start, but now Its getting pretty frustrating.
And I am not even allowed to say no, they keep on coming asking for everything I know, everything I got..and if I say no, im a cocky mofo who wants to be the topchef all by himself..etc etc
I have to be rude, and I have to put ppls requests down. If not, I would not have time to do make new roms, because I was personally guiding everyone else.
That IS NOT why im here. I have no interest at all beeing a teacher...I can share stuff, but then I also like to get something back (not talking donations here) and that is a more respectful tone, specialy when I decline helping.
But, I try to point ppl in the right directions..telling them what to look for or where to find a thread with the stuff they need..usually that is not enough...cause they keep coming back asking what to look for....
But then I dont reply, because if you cant find it, then you can find another hobby..and that I dont back up on..
I have been searching this forums, so many times for new stuff, to learn new things, and I STILL DO.
I help if I can, I share when I can..but dont add me to msn to ask for cooking help. Cause you wont get it..sorry.
I know this post can be considered a bit off topic..but then again, its not..cause that is whats happening "behind the scene" of all the new "chefs"
Im sorry if this offends anyone..and im sure there is ppl among the new guys that are gonna get way better then me in this...after all, its just a hobby
I dont like ppl dissambling my roms
I tried for some time to have open roms..damn I even left in the rgus, so ppl could dump the rom and recook for personal use..
But what they didnt know was that I hid some small codes in the base of the rom
So when suddenly new roms started popping up..from ppl claiming it was their own work...can you guys guess what I found in the roms???? nahhhh..guess one more time
Then I made some "rules" Do not recook and release my roms, or I will protect them...
To bad..it still happened...
So I locked my roms, and if ppl dont like it...I dont care
Oh please don't take what ive said the wrong way. I understand the reasoning behind it.
not to be that guy but i still get the files i need from ur rom. like new images for replacement of the old green highlights.
but i also respect your work to not release anything as i understand how time consuming it is.
as i used to skin for psp's and windows mobile 6 and 6.1 standard neo and sliding panel home screens.
I have to say I've been reading this thread with particular interest, as I could be considered one of the "chefs" Itje is talking about as I recently asked him to point me in the direction of how to create ROMs. I personally found in all the custom ROMs that I tried several different little tweaks or something that I didn't use and wouldn't use and all I can say to people is, unless you've created a new TF3D or something HUGE then don't publicise ROMs - Once i eventually learn how to create on, I will simply use it just to create a ROM that is PERFECT for ME - and then I will work on creating something spectacular!
And that's my 15minutes of fame for the day
Nirave
P.S. I've just re-read the post and there is no hidden meaning in what I said regarding asking Itje! I know it sounds like there is, but there's not !
I'll open it out a little more: If anyone can help a long-time reader, small-time poster (ME!) and point me in the direction of how to create a custom ROM I'll be ever grateful
thanks
nirave
nirave said:
I have to say I've been reading this thread with particular interest, as I could be considered one of the "chefs" Itje is talking about as I recently asked him to point me in the direction of how to create ROMs. I personally found in all the custom ROMs that I tried several different little tweaks or something that I didn't use and wouldn't use and all I can say to people is, unless you've created a new TF3D or something HUGE then don't publicise ROMs - Once i eventually learn how to create on, I will simply use it just to create a ROM that is PERFECT for ME - and then I will work on creating something spectacular!
And that's my 15minutes of fame for the day
Nirave
P.S. I've just re-read the post and there is no hidden meaning in what I said regarding asking Itje! I know it sounds like there is, but there's not !
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dont worry, im not aiming at any person...but its a typical thing...its the same over and over again...same way
I dont see any problems in all these new roms. If there is nothing special, people wont be interested so that the "problem" will be solved by itself.
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dont worry, im not aiming at any person...but its a typical thing...its the same over and over again...same way
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Yes, I'm an Ikea cook, as Itje said. I'm only ever after a bare-bones ROM with whatever XIP\SYS improvements updates may provide.
I once published one of my "Ikea assembly" efforts for my earlier Eten X500, acknowledging the base was from PDAVIET, and was inundated with requests, complaints etc etc. So now I just use these Ikea efforts.
Question: does anyone know why official ROM updates seem never to use NETCF3.5 over v2.xx ?
V3.5 has been available for well over 18 months now