This thread is for everyone using one of FARIA's 3.2 ROMs. I want to find out and share information about which paging pool size works better on your phone, 12 or 8.
Some Explanations:
There are 2 versions available, one with 8MB paging pool and one with 12MB paging pool. The paging pool is like virtual memory on a desktop windows computer. Basically, it's memory for open, running programs to sit in until the computer needs them again. More paging pool equals less program memory available. (program memory is similar to RAM on a windows computer.) A smaller paging pool equals MORE available program memory.
We all know WindowsMobile devices lose available program memory over time. Because of that, we have to soft reset the devices on a regular basis. I have tried both versions of FARIA. It seems that the 12MB rom uses memory BETTER! Since I have loaded the 12MB version a few days ago, I have only had to soft reset the device once or twice. When I had the 8MB version I had to reset every hour or so.
What has been your experience?
yeah, i installed the 12mb version. I don't have too much problem with the memory leak. After i closed all the programs, i still have almost 10 mb memory left. I had it running for almost 3 days already.
Can't really say, as I haven't tried the 8mb version yet. Other than a few known issues, I've been really happy with this ROM, so I won't change over to the other one until sometime next week (after I purchase and use Sprite Backup).
The 8MB version works good so far... Requiring a reset once per day or so if i am using my copy of Pocket Player...
vseehua said:
The 8MB version works good so far... Requiring a reset once per day or so if i am using my copy of Pocket Player...
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Ive made my own rom, based on Faria OS 3.0 with 4mb paging pool (and 2Mb)
Now i have 35 Mb free memory (and 38 on 2 Mb pp), and this releas is very stable and fast. But i have only one problem - battery decrease very quickly in gprs session (cause of pp's size).
mun_rus said:
Ive made my own rom, based on Faria OS 3.0 with 4mb paging pool (and 2Mb)
Now i have 35 Mb free memory (and 38 on 2 Mb pp), and this releas is very stable and fast. But i have only one problem - battery decrease very quickly in gprs session (cause of pp's size).
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Can you upload this 4MB rom? I would really to try it out.
Attn Lurkers
It would be really good to get everybody to chime in on this. So far, it looks like there is little, if any, difference between the roms. Let's hear what the rest of us have to say...
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Got the Tmobile wing, or HTC Herald. I'm trying to put preferably a 32bit EMU (e.g. PocketGBA) or at least a 16 bit EMU (Pocket SNES) on it. Used MemMaid to kill a bunch of programs but I'm still stuck without enough memory (RAM). Anyway anyone knows how to squeeze some more memory out of the Wing?
The best method IMHO is to allocate more to programs...since I have a 2GB Micro SD card I don't need storage, but can't seem to do it. And I don't know enough to find and change the memory allocation in the registry (if that's where it is)
Anyhelp?? I just want more memory, nothing fancy?? Suggestions? Looked through several forums and haven't found what I need.: p
Koijima said:
Got the Tmobile wing, or HTC Herald. I'm trying to put preferably a 32bit EMU (e.g. PocketGBA) or at least a 16 bit EMU (Pocket SNES) on it. Used MemMaid to kill a bunch of programs but I'm still stuck without enough memory (RAM). Anyway anyone knows how to squeeze some more memory out of the Wing?
The best method IMHO is to allocate more to programs...since I have a 2GB Micro SD card I don't need storage, but can't seem to do it. And I don't know enough to find and change the memory allocation in the registry (if that's where it is)
Anyhelp?? I just want more memory, nothing fancy?? Suggestions? Looked through several forums and haven't found what I need.: p
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The problem is the pagepool.
All cooked rom for wizard have 4 or 8MB pagepool because that´s enough. I guess on wing it is the normal 12MB - too much.
We have to cook smaler ones and we will get back the big RAM like 30MB.
Let´s wait for official update and start cooking without the possibility of bricking.
lol
Dang-it
I was hoping I didn't have to cook the rom, I've bricked things before and once burned....
Oh well I just want it to play GBA, (wanted to wait for PSP2 to come out to decide on getting a portable) I'll hang back and wait for a popular Aserg cooked OS or something. Something using the original windows mobile WWE edition.
Oh damn I've deleted stuff from my extrom, crap should have backed it up... I think it was only the tzone thing, still just in case. well I'll get around to it whenever..
Now to look up how to make sure I use 802.11g and not 802.11b
Thanks man.
papamopps;1304169 said:
The problem is the pagepool.
All cooked rom for wizard have 4 or 8MB pagepool because that´s enough. I guess on wing it is the normal 12MB - too much.
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I also have a wing and experiencing the same memory problems.. your saying that if i lower the "pagepool," a term I'm unfamiliar with, more program memory will be allocated after a soft reset; right now only 27% of the program memory is free after a soft reset. Is this pagepool thing a simple registry hack, or do u need to flash a custom rom to lower it? either way, can someone please explain to me how to lower the pagepool, or easier, a recommendation for a custom rom that allocates more program memory.. before I switched to the wing, my mda would always have atleast 50+% free program memory.. please help. thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313263
try your luck and post results in the thread pls
/edit: It worked for my device... 26.53 RAM Free now
Wing Memory Help?
I have a wing with 1.02 mb storage memory and 14.26 program memory with nothing running. I have installed all my cab.s on my 4 gig memory card. Am i doing something wrong? Why do I have so little memory? I have change the pagepoll to 4 mb's.
I have inastalled on my mem card:
sling player
audible logic and cardonware
ms live search
mud inc Kokonotsu
aserg policies
TCPMP the core pocket media player
Skunkworks Flashvideobundle
Spb weather
A_c Slide2unlock
Chi-Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD-plugin
I am sure I installed all the cab. files on my storage card.
Any insight or help woud be appreciated.
dstegner119 said:
I have a wing with 1.02 mb storage memory and 14.26 program memory with nothing running. I have installed all my cab.s on my 4 gig memory card. Am i doing something wrong? Why do I have so little memory? I have change the pagepoll to 4 mb's.
I have inastalled on my mem card:
sling player
audible logic and cardonware
ms live search
mud inc Kokonotsu
aserg policies
TCPMP the core pocket media player
Skunkworks Flashvideobundle
Spb weather
A_c Slide2unlock
Chi-Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD-plugin
I am sure I installed all the cab. files on my storage card.
Any insight or help woud be appreciated.
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Just a thought. Have you deleted your emails and cleared the temp files in your Internet Explorer?
In any case you should set it up so that these get saved on the storage card.
yes.. doing that on a regular bases does help but pagepool makes a big difference
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
yes.. doing that on a regular bases does help but pagepool makes a big difference
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Did you read that he already has pagepool set at 4mb?
patspdaphone said:
Did you read that he already has pagepool set at 4mb?
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i thought it was a better idea to set it to 6mb instead of 4mb??
im not sure whats better but i have the 4mb and it works great plenty of memory on a fresh reboot...about 25-27mb
With all applications closed, using the 4mb pagepool setting, I get 21mb.
Apparently each device is slightly different? Wouldn't it be nice if HTC had supplied more memory in the first place...and if Windows wasn't always sucking mem. for no reason
adam79 said:
I also have a wing and experiencing the same memory problems.. your saying that if i lower the "pagepool," a term I'm unfamiliar with, more program memory will be allocated after a soft reset; right now only 27% of the program memory is free after a soft reset. Is this pagepool thing a simple registry hack, or do u need to flash a custom rom to lower it? either way, can someone please explain to me how to lower the pagepool, or easier, a recommendation for a custom rom that allocates more program memory.. before I switched to the wing, my mda would always have atleast 50+% free program memory.. please help. thanks.
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I just got my Wing a couple of weeks ago, installed a new ROM and did the page pool and am very upset with the lack of storage memory. With my MDA I had both vanilla ROM's and full ROM's installed with lots of memory left any where from 24MB to 30MG free storage ram. With the Wing I had installed only a few programs like Intellisync for work, PocketCM all emails and IE cache are on the card, with this I have just 13 mg of storage space. I do not have the newest updated Office...when I tried to intstall it the old was not deleted but this just installed over it and took away precious memory.
I do miss the days of a full stocked cooked ROM with lots of storage memory. Am considering getting rid of this phone and getting something else.
I'm running about 20lb on average. I did have about 23mb before, but had to hard reset (for other reasons) and reconfigure everything. I think I need to see what else I can put on my storage card. Only using about 81mb right now, but was running about 250mb before. Going to reinstall a few programs onto the card today and see how much more I can free up.
Wow i am an idiot. I did figure this out. Thought I set it up to storage card but... anyway thanks,
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324594
much easier to do. I have 6mb pagepool set and when i boot up fresh i get just under 20mb of free ram with a total program memory of 49.89mb. I'd suggest the 6mb pagepool as many people have said the 4mb pagepool is too small and the device will suffer performance issues.
Just like what someone did to HTC D900, upgraded its RAM from 64MB to 128MB.
If Diamond gets 288MB RAM just like Touch Pro, it would be perfect because Touch Pro is too thick to me.
Any idea?
Thanks!
I think no, Diamond with its size is so small, I really doubt that there is place for another RAM module. But, I have Diamond, and I must say that these 55 MB RAM which you will get with TouchFlo 3D are enough.
Yeah even with the phone skin and TF3D on, and with all the RAM eating speed increase tweaks you get more than 50MB available.
Why do you need more? Even a huge huge program like IGO 8 doesn't need more than 30MB.
Even if you need more RAM, you can turn off the phone skin and TF3D to gain around +15MB RAM easily.
I only have 35mb free...
Im running SwiftBL v6.0 Lite with 16mb cache. Is it normal?
laser21 said:
I only have 35mb free...
Im running SwiftBL v6.0 Lite with 16mb cache. Is it normal?
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Something's wrong there. I'm also using SwiftBL 6 and I have 65MB free. You're either confusing used ram with free ram, or you have somthing huge running in the background.
I want more ram because when you run 2~3 apps in Diamond, it's free ram will drop to 10~20 MB, and then the phone is quite slow. If you watch the Touch Pro videos(just search Youtube), it runs much faster than Diamond, even it's now without very good roms.
I have just flashed to the unbranded stock rom and felt the rom was running a little slow.
I changed the pagepool size of the rom to 32MB and reflashed, I must say the performance seems so much greater.
I have been keeping tabs on these threads, and havn't noticed anyone mention they have done this, a quick search in the xperia threads also shows no result,
I appologise if this info already exists, but I could not find it.
So here is a quick step by step,
Download whichever rom you prefer,
Download pagepool changer 2.21 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
open the pagepool changer, select the NBH file of the rom you want to flash,
change the pagepool size,
Flash to phone as you usually would and Voila!
Yeah I don't think anyones been playing with it too much yet, anychance of a benchmark to compare?
I found that big files (such as OS maps for memory map) loaded better with a 16mb one on my advantage but others seemed to think otherwise.
Changed Itje's blackstone based rom to 32mb and reflashed.
1st boot takes a long time, subsequent boots are much faster.
Opening big files feels much quicker.
128mb map opens in 2:13 seconds with 32mb pagepool
and 3:35 seconds with a 6mb (stock) pagepool.
(not full view, just 4x4 km squares of map)
that's initial load, subsequent maps are nearly instant.
Not huge amounts but noticeable
Is there a point in trying to flash it to 64mb, or does it cause an error?
I don't think I've ever seen any one reporting trying.
0 16 or 24 seem to give the best results.
its most common by cookers to change pagepool, but we dont brag about it, i used almost everytime a 16mb on my roms, but the latest i made got alot of "large" files in it, and therefor i changed it to 20mb, and setting it to 0 the phone takes care of the size, see itjes 3.5...
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its most common by cookers to change pagepool, but we dont brag about it, i used almost everytime a 16mb on my roms, but the latest i made got alot of "large" files in it, and therefor i changed it to 20mb, and setting it to 0 the phone takes care of the size, see itjes 3.5...
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hehe I was going to PM you about it, I was going to try 32MB on your Xion 2.2 ROM, would it give something or should I just leave it at 20MB?
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hehe I was going to PM you about it, I was going to try 32MB on your Xion 2.2 ROM, would it give something or should I just leave it at 20MB?
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as above, its not the benchmark that makes the feel of speedin a rom, in my rom 20mb is great for userinterface speed, it feels like its more speedy, but a little slower at other things, so it depends on build of rom, what you want out of rom, there is no final best setting.
I'm using Jack Leung's Lite ROM v2.1.
Originally with a 16Mb pagepool, I've altered that to 20Mb and find it overall faster, especially re-loading large geological map series I use constantly
Tried 24Mb pagepool, seemed a bit too slow in booting and loading new programs - quite subjective though. 20Mb seems to work best for my uses
My stock AT&T shows about 54% used and 86mb free with no apps or Touch Flo running after soft reset
After launchin Touch Flo - 62% used and 70mb free
scrolling through the touch flo menu once and not launching anything - 66% 64mb
opening butt load of apps including Touch Flo - 90% 18mb
closing all apps - 60% 75mb
Here is the question. How does everyone compare their stock ROM to the cooked ones? If I open more than 3 apps, I start to get slow downs. I did remove as much bloat as I could and used memmaid to clean out old stuff. Which ROMS have the best memory usage?
Thanks for the feedback.
I only see one ROM with published memory stats. I'm really trying to learn here. Are there more ROMs with published results? Thanks.
I was able to get my Raphael with new ROMS and the performance increased. The memory usage went from 110mb used to 80mb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
Well its up to the cooks to do so. The best way to find it is to flash!
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Well its up to the cooks to do so. The best way to find it is to flash!
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Mine will have the most free memory for obvious reasons. However, mine is Sprint only.
william8004 said:
My stock AT&T shows about 54% used and 86mb free with no apps or Touch Flo running after soft reset
After launchin Touch Flo - 62% used and 70mb free
scrolling through the touch flo menu once and not launching anything - 66% 64mb
opening butt load of apps including Touch Flo - 90% 18mb
closing all apps - 60% 75mb
Here is the question. How does everyone compare their stock ROM to the cooked ones? If I open more than 3 apps, I start to get slow downs. I did remove as much bloat as I could and used memmaid to clean out old stuff. Which ROMS have the best memory usage?
Thanks for the feedback.
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Well my New rom Cell PRO V7.5 beats that by far and it includes alot of good stuff from leo.
I use Energy ROM photon 10/21/09-21864 version.
47% RAM used with touchFLO after soft reset
51% with scrolling
using Opera browser, watch movies, play music. after 1 day about 70-75%.
even when opening lots of apps, including Google map and opera, still <80%
47% again after reset. I can go more than 1 week without the need to reset.
Seems like this Energy ROM uses much less RAM than your ATT stock ROM.
I have my first report:
Stock ROM on boot = 70mb free
to this ROM = 100mb free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403
By the way, if you run Copilot Live 8 it uses 25mb running.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
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Hello
I thought it'd be a good idea to create a list of the different memory rates of the different roms (cooked & stock), as not all of them list memory usage, and it'd be good to have them all in one place [I'm thinking Wiki, if we get this list complete enough].
Please help me create this list.
Thanks in advance,
Panarchy
PS: Write what entries you know of in reply;
PPS: First entry;
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# JackOS S2 v1.6 #
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JackFULL: 111MB free (42% used)
SkrobPRO: 114MB free (41% used)
ManilaRUSH: 115MB free (40% used)
ShowLITE: 119MB free (38% used)
SmartMOVE: 124MB free (35% used)
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Energy CHT - 60MB free. Although it varies from each update. and you really need to post if it's running max sense, cht, or stock wm interface.
This is going to be kind of hard to keep up to date. Because new versions of each ROM keep being released on a regular basis, and their memory figures may change.
Also, you need to make sure you get memory figures from the clean ROM with nothing else installed on top. Even going to some Sense tabs uses up RAM space (try it and see after a reboot).
energy roms use 70% of memory
this thread is a good idea but i think it will be very hard to keep up with. and youll get entries that will just irritate some people hah.
maybe use ranges instead of being exact. i dunno lol.
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Umm, are you serious ? Which version of EnergyROM exactly ? There are loads of variants of EnergyROM, with varying memory usage.
All of them
I use to only use energy roms but they honestly got so overloaded with apps and options that with the current Rhodium device im useing it became un-usable.. Im now running ""Jacko's full"" best rom ive seen thus far
i like ShowLITE from Jackos its pretty fast! too bad the dialer is messed up stupid tilt 2