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about upgrade 2005

its seem to me that all the ba user just sleep away no body making any effort to get 2005 i dont think something is awaible for himmalay will not fit to ba
it unbeleviable

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21666

i cant beleive that there are people out there that are still posting these new threads about wm 2005, we aint getting it yet, when we do, you will see in big letters on the title, remember to READ the forum next time.

to icohen2005
i think thats a very offensive post ..
HIMALAYA and TYPHOON was just lucky that someone manage to get in hand .. but you will see also that their are peole risking just to have this OS ..
please refrain for creating that offensive remarks, you should know first whats going on before creating a thread ..
icohen2005 said:
no body making any effort
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icohen2005 said:
its seem to me that all the ba user just sleep away no body making any effort to get 2005 i dont think something is awaible for himmalay will not fit to ba
it unbeleviable
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Just wondering how much effort you have put in icohen2005, it would be nice to see any results from testing that you have carried out. By the way, this is not a commercial venture here on the board, its guys and gals giving time and effort and sometimes rendering their phones useless by pushing the limits. If you have something to offer then post it and lets all share, until then please keep your negative comments for those that like listening to groundless whining.

icohen2005 said:
its seem to me that all the ba user just sleep away no body making any effort to get 2005 i dont think something is awaible for himmalay will not fit to ba
it unbeleviable
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so do you think that?
i explain
they use software that doesnt exist so they develop it
they use knoledge that ist availaible and they find it
they test the software in their devices so somethimes they ruined it
they do all this for us users of htc devices for free
so please even befoure some of them make some software,or dig some information or get something for your device that inst ready for guys like you and me to use it not fair you give them a motive to stop
so if you think that please use your spare time and search for information about you device who knows you problaby find a magneto working version in you local store just dump the rom here they will make it work that i m sure of.......
i read somewhere here that a guy have it at hand and coulnd get to it how fustrating that may be that one deserve applause you just more work to do.....so stop complaining and get you hands dirty
hope never dies just me....

i see that i make some people too angry maybe this is better i make some effort
and my next one to take himalya 2005 and try to install on my sx66 siemens
as far till now i find out that all this ba gadget are still beyond of any satisfaction on each level that u checking
1wireless connection and the way to find is too poor
2 bt driver simply dissater no conectivity for voice
3.no voice dialing
4the rom that install sometime in the middle of the day stuck the machine
and this is only very few problem.
in the first i think its only my
personal ba problem
but after meeting a lot of people in new york i found out that this is regular problem that every <crazY gadget> facing today so if the next level
not solving this basic problem we shuld show to the manfactures of ba and other and spiecialy to microsoft what we think about the pda+phone
i know i sound a little bitter but i think we spend to much money and time just to get the basic thing that this company shuld provide

icohen2005 said:
i see that i make some people too angry maybe this is better i make some effort
and my next one to take himalya 2005 and try to install on my sx66 siemens
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You have made people angry because there are people on this board who freely give up time, energy, and sometimes their devices just to help people on this board, and then you come on and state 'they're not trying' and that 'you can't believe' that it can't be done. Try it, and learn...
You suggest it would be easy just to port the hima wm2005 to your BA. By all means try, assuming you can write new drivers for most of the hardware, or obtain them from HTC :lol: , write new MMS apps, etc etc. Or perhaps you'd rather have a device that doesn't work with half the software installed? Not sure I see the benefit.
icohen2005 said:
as far till now i find out that all this ba gadget are still beyond of any satisfaction on each level that u checking
1wireless connection and the way to find is too poor
2 bt driver simply dissater no conectivity for voice
3.no voice dialing
4the rom that install sometime in the middle of the day stuck the machine
and this is only very few problem.
in the first i think its only my
personal ba problem
but after meeting a lot of people in new york i found out that this is regular problem that every <crazY gadget> facing today so if the next level
not solving this basic problem we shuld show to the manfactures of ba and other and spiecialy to microsoft what we think about the pda+phone
i know i sound a little bitter but i think we spend to much money and time just to get the basic thing that this company shuld provide
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Well if you're so unhappy with the product, why buy it, or why not send it back within the 14 days that most providers give you?
I purchased a BA and experienced the same as you, however with tinkering and with following the advice, freely given by members of this site, my machine's now much better. I don't just come on the board and whinge.
As for your performance problems - try reading the WIKI - lots of information there about how to remove o2 active ui etc, bluetooth patches etc. I rarely need to reset mine now!

i got the himalaya WM5 rom to flash to my device, but it was stuck in boot loader mode, so i flashed back to the 1.40 rom and all was ok. maybe i f'd up somewhere, but at least i got it flashed to my device. (oh, and for the slow, i own a Seimens SX66)

Another stuck in bootloader

Don't be too harsh, I'm a noob here.
First of all: I've purchased SPV m700 with instructions how to unlock it. During flashing something went wrong, the PC reset etc. Now I've got nice three colour screen on my PDA and cannot do anything, even turn it on or off. I suppose it cleaned the old ROM and did not manage to write a new one.
I've read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308691
and TBH cannot understand a thing from it
Is there any straightforward way I can unbrick it? You know, something that a guy without a vast programing experience could manage to do? Cheers in advance good people!

OK, thanks guys for great support and warm welcome...NOT.
No, I won't start crying here, just hope I'll meet one of you uberman 'experts' from this forum on one of the forums I'm an expert on and will be able to recognize you. Best wishes.
Anyway, just for the record of other newbees who struggle to get any answers: I managed to unbrick my SPV M700. I had no idea what I was doing, neither will you I guess, do not come to me crying if it doesn't work or if it makes your device a real, solid brick. It may work only for Orange SPV, no clue as to HTC P3600, Trinity or others.
I ran the thing from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309959
It failed to finish running, showed 'error[270] invalid image' or something similar...
But the device was back to normal again So I'm one happy bunny.
Hopefully it will give others ideas on how to deal with their problems. Good luck to you all. I'm off.

Dont let this little incident put you off upgrading to WM6, just read the threads thoroughly first, then FLASH!
im on UK M700 with Mun_Rus 2.00.SE WM6 ROM
FANTASTIC!
GO FOR IT!

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Dont let this little incident put you off upgrading to WM6, just read the threads thoroughly first, then FLASH!
im on UK M700 with Mun_Rus 2.00.SE WM6 ROM
FANTASTIC!
GO FOR IT!
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What I worry about is loosing warranty (although I'm not sure if I've got one at all - beware of Ebay seller id1emind!!!). Well, TBH I do worry about bricking it again too...

So...why can you unlock other HTC phones for free

But you always have to pay to unlock a Treo?? I mean, it's made by HTC and has WM Pro...right? So why can't someone figure out how to unlock it like you can with the Wizard, 8525, etc??

????
Man, you need help!
Could you express yourself a little better?

How so? I think it's rather straight forward. I've yet to find a free unlock method for the Treo 750, whereas with other HTC phones (the MDA specifically) there is a free unlock method. Why is that?
Was that expressed better?

How about this..
Free unlocky Treo 750 no worky. Free unlocky other phone worky. Gabba gabba diff dorf.

Excellent
dma1965 said:
Free unlocky Treo 750 no worky. Free unlocky other phone worky. Gabba gabba diff dorf.
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Excellent answer dma1965! lol

Perhaps someone with a reading comprehension higher than 5th grader can explain. Is it a lack of development interest, or something that's hardware/software related? Since there are companies that will charge to unlock the 750, it's evidently doable, so why has no one bothered to hack a free unlock. Or perhaps 750 users aren't as resourceful as Wizard/Hermes users?

I blame global warming. It seems to be the root of many other problems worldwide, so why not? Thoughts?

Once again, fantastic!
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I blame global warming. It seems to be the root of many other problems worldwide, so why not? Thoughts?
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Once again, fantastic answer!

Hi Charles -
I'm assuming you mean SIM unlocking...It has to do with the smaller installed based of Treos compared to other HTC devices.
The primary contributors to homebrew unlockers and ROM cooking have devices other than the Treo, and it's rare for them to take the time to dev for devices they don't own.
That said, if there's a large enough group of folks who need a solution, developers with the know-how can be engaged, and many of them will throw some time at it. There's a good chance a modified bootloader for the 750 will be released soon (which will allow for cooked ROMs), however SIM unlocking isn't part of the endeavor.
Hope that answers your question. If not, post up in here. Generally it's a very friendly and generous forum.
PS. for reference, the number of folks here on xda-dev who can dig into ARM assembly deep enough to create a SIM unlocker can be counted on one hand, and they tend to own HTC devices. =)

Thank you!
I figured as much, but wanted to confirm that was the reason. I've had a 650 for 2 years now, so given my interaction with other users, I figured someone would have cooked something up by now. I thought the consumer base was big enough to merit it. Oh well.
Again, thanks for actually taking the time to reply instead of being a douchewank.

Is it worth it???

I just got the AT&T Tilt last Friday and have found myself pondering if it was worth the $300.00? I am thinking about taking it back because it seems to buggy. The phone its self is good looking but WM6 is just ugly compared to the iPhone interface. Anyways what do you think?

If aesthetics are you main concern, sure go with an iPhone. I like functionality over appearance, so I love my tilt!

yes it worth it, there is soooooo many apps that u can add, you can even upgrade from that cingular rom, i havent seen anyone with my tilt yet

Now come on... this is getting beyond a joke....You have an At&T Tilt, not a 'HTC TyTnII'
Please disclose your business affiliations as I am POSITIVE you are associated with apple as this is getting really stupid!
Who buys a very expensive phone without research then suddenly comes on this forum and denouces it within a few weeks without really trying it??
I am amazed!!!
OH, BTW I am not associated with HTC in any way and I find it a 100% piece of kit for what I wanted.

Amazing how many times you see "is it worth it to me" on forums. Who else but you could possibly answer if it's worth it to you???

hahahaha good point, Farsquidge......iphone=downgrade

First off I do not work for AT&T!!! I am a high school student that spent alot of time doing research on this phone! I love my "'HTC TyTnII" or whatever you want to call it! I only called it the Tilt for the simple fact that its branded name is the AT&T Tilt. This has to be the most unfriendly forum I have ever been on!

Dude you need to chill out. Swearing will get you banned. Everyone has their opinions about the iPhone and the Tilt. If you don't like someone else's opinions, just ignore them.
Personally I love the Tilt. The iPhone just doesn't do enough for me. Yes, it has a very nice interface but in the end, function wins over form.
If you want a pretty phone, go with the iPhone. If you want one that you can easily hack and tweak and load tons of 3rd party apps on, get the Tilt, but it is your choice to make, not ours to make for you.
In the end, you have to live with your choice.
P.S. I absolutely love my Tilt. It runs rings around the iPhone and I don't have to worry about Steve Jobs making my life difficult by not letting me do what I want with it.

Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.

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Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Please don't give up.. I know some of us (me for one!) can be a little short tempered with what is around on this forum at the moment (flaming the device!) but all of us on here would like to try to help you futher your unit!
I am sorry if I seemed to shoot you down at the start...
Let's move on from that...
You say you have a 'Tilt', first thing we can recommend is re-flashing your ROM to a HTC TyTnII as the AT&T is a very basic firmware but when you do this you will lose your AT&T settings ( that is your 3G HSDPA connection). Then you will need the latest Network settings cab.. Then lets move on from that!!! OK?

There are so many different roms witch is the one I need to use?

True, there are many. I like the att rom. it's not that bad. i just removed all of the bloatware on it by doing a soft reset after the hard reset and that freeed like 20 mb or so. btw, if you want to run different roms on the tilt, you must cid unlcok your tilt.

We need a few bits of info to start you off.
First, tell us the device (I know it may seem strange but we need to know who you bought it from ie At&T or whatever as this forum is worldwide!!)
Then when you first turn on the phone (turn it off by holding the power button!) try to get the OS and Radio versions it has. You may need to do this a couple of times as it disappears quickly.
If I am not online you will find loads of guys willing to help....
You have come into a great community that will work with you so long as we get the correct info...

I bought it from an AT&T store. The numbers are R1.27.12.11 G22.445.88.07h D1.57.00.00.

I need the same help here, thanks in advance
I will follow this thread since I have the same phone, same radio and OS, I'm very interested in getting a better ROM to see what are the PROS.

OK guys, have a good read at the WiKi...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Especially at the 'How to flash a new ROM' section. It will give you a good aspect of what you will be doing..

I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?

Thatplayboy said:
I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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If you re-flash your 'Tilt' (as it is an AT&T carrier device) you will lose your AT&T connection settings.
You will end up with a 'Carrier free' device with (or) without sim unlock depending on the way you do it. You will then have to re-install these with a 'Network profile app' from this forum. You will find plenty of apps (in the form of .cab files) on here to keep you happy for ages!
Be patient because there are tons of guys on this forum who have reflashed their devices that will add their input to help you. No one is online all the time but will get to you when they can.

Thanks. The more I look on different forums, the more confused I get. I'm not to phone/computer savy so I have to do some research on the simple words and terms used up here. Thanks alot.

It takes a long time to get up to speed, I'm not close yet. Personally, I don't have a problem with the ATT rom, I guess b/c I haven't seen a flashed one to compare it to. I've added a bunch of fun/useful programs from this site, FFF and IMSMS are great ones and all the home customizations are very cool. The other day, I was beaming IMSMS to a friend. A stranger passing says "oh are we showing off our phones?" and yanks out his iphone hoping we'd be impressed. I said, "nope just beaming a file, do you want it too? Oops, guess you can't do that" You could see him deflate immediately. The iphone is neat to look at, but is so lacking in features and customization it's sad.

Advice

Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab

The original rom in my tilt was very slow. I flashed my kaiser with one of Dutty's roms and its now much faster and already has most of the software I need already installed.

I like Duttys but Slueth has been the best for me so far.

Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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If you really want to let the true geek in you out to play. Try them all. And I will see you at the NExt Flashers Anon Meeting.

hehe,
I appreciate all the advice.
I already have had a bit of a look around the forums now all I need to do is figure out which roms are where and then I'll start trying stuff out... thanks guys
Edit: Also, I have never actually flashed a smartphone before, I bow to those of you who have been in the "business" for a while, but me thinks I might need a bit more time to learn... the thing is, what sort of chance do you think there is that the whole process will drive me crazy? Seems a lil complicated, but doable so far. Just need to understand what all the various different things are for. (I.e. why radios aren't included in roms, and what they are actually for ..yaeh, im THAT noobish).
Anyhoo, thanks again fellas.

If you can follow simple intructions then I think you're going to be ok.

I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...

Gowardo said:
I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...
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That will cost you some true blue Italian Manicotti.
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All joking aside, you'll be fine. You have already done more than most by reading the Wiki. Might I also suggest the FAQ Wiki. Have fun and welcome to Rom Flashers Anon.

Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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Welcome to the flashing club lol.
There is no "best" rom , just find the one that you think is "best" for you.
Yea, the Wiki and Faq here is very noob friendly. I started up as a new ppc user , but It has been so smooth. Most of the flashing trouble can be recover , as long as you dont mess with advance stuff like MTTY .
Try Dutty rom , they are very popular and updated frequently.
make sure you have hard SPL before flashing.
Peeps here are very friendly , as long as you read and research before any question.