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Looking to possibly upgrade, Thoughts for newbie???

Hi people, Im new here,
My name is Mike and I have just bought an O2 xdaIIs and love it. I am wondering about upgrades for it. What would you recommend? All the details are in my sig (i think)
Any help appreciated
Mike 8)

u can try helmi_c aku3.2 which is the latest rls, very fast and stable. it's a very nice ROM. there is some issue with BlueTooth, but the rest is all good.
imatrix

Hi Mike,
visit http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel and browse through forum. U know we cant give u any advice if we dont know what are u looking for (any problems,discontent?)
You can upgrade to the latest version of wm2003se (see the wiki) and than consider if u wanna upgrade to wm2005.

i'd say enjoy your unit using wm2003se for a while.
and when the time comes that you are looking for some more, then go for wm5... and the latest radio version.... it would seem like you have a new phone altogether.

I would take a call depending on the way you use your phone. How much of bluetooth you use, how much of wifi, do you use a stereo headset, do you use a GPS attachment, what kind of applications you run etc. Please note that if you go through the the complete threads of a particular post helmi 1.3 or 1.2 or 1.1 you will come to know the advantages and drawbacks of upgrading and can then take a wise call.
Hope this Helps

imatrix said:
u can try helmi_c aku3.2 which is the latest rls, very fast and stable. it's a very nice ROM. there is some issue with BlueTooth, but the rest is all good.
imatrix
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Dear Sir,
I'm running Ivan V4R3, may i know which is faster if compare with helmi_c aku3.2. And as my know helmi is pre-install some program, can u specfily. Thanks!

Ivans rom with ramdisk is very stable and fast wm5 version, and i lie it a lot, but AKU updates fixes many bugs in the OS and Security of the mobile device, so i prefer latest AKU 2.3, 3.0 3.2 roms.
The best way to get your rom to fit your needs is to build a custom one with Bepe's ktchen
@Mike
First i want to welcome you to the forums, you will learn a lot here as i did!
First step that you have take is to read WIKI, a lot of stuff is explained there. For you there are 2 possible types of roms, WM2003SE or WM5. By mine personal opinion the best roms by now are Ivans v4 r3 with ramdisk, and Helmi's 1.3 AKU 3.2 roms. You can try and decide for yourself.

AKU 3.2 Core Rom? New Custom Rom

Wow, I impressed myself tonight. I read this site every day, and have been doing so since last year when I bought my Cingular 8125. Tonight, I decided to cook my own custom Rom, and low and behold, the flash went perfectly, and all aspects of it installed without a flaw, even the custom extended rom I cooked. I learned all of this by simply reading through these threads.
I'm not too sure what this communities sharing ettiquite is, and would like some opinions and feedback from the authors whos work I borrowed. This Rom will not be shared until I can further personally tweak it. My custom Rom details are as folows....
OS - AKU 3.2 (extracted from Faria's Beta 4 Rom) Faria - I do not want to use, nor will I share this rom, because OS was extracted from your masterpiece. This Rom was just to test, and will not hit anyone elses device.
IPL - 2.26 (extracted from latest T-Mobile Rom)
SPL - 2.26 (extracted from latest T-mobile Rom)
GSM - 2.47 (Again, came from Faria's 3.2 Beta 4)
Extended Rom - My Own - Since I'm Cingular, included the GPRS and MMS settings, also added Memmaid, Battery Status, Wireless today plugin, and Molskis Performance and Registry Tweaks)
I like the simplicity of this rom so far, I have tested everything out there, and some Rom include too many goodies that I dont use, and others dont have enough. This Rom is fast and functinal.
Faria & Molski: I will not share this rom because your hard work and efforts are included in it. I would like to see where I could find the base AKU 3.2 Rom, and start over, so all work and everything included in this Rom is truly original.
Feedback would be great!

if you decide to release this rom for cingular i'd be intersted right now im using molski's 30mb rom on my cingular 8125 and i love it.
So to know that you based some of your rom off his and faria's its like a dream

It's good to hear, more of us should follow your example and read more. There's a lot of people that come into this forum and ask the same questions that have been asked 1000 times and all because they don't bother to read a bit, while there's no such thing as a stupid question..... asking the same questions over and over again is really annoyies most people.

good for you! see what a little searching gets you these days...perhaps others might learn from this (well who am I kidding right?)
I like the respect/props being given to Faria & Molski too...perhaps if you come up with some that great and they both give their consent then others could enjoy your ROM
well done

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It's good to hear, more of us should follow your example and read more. There's a lot of people that come into this forum and ask the same questions that have been asked 1000 times and all because they don't bother to read a bit, while there's no such thing as a stupid question..... asking the same questions over and over again is really annoyies most people.
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I think that it's quite obvious. There's so many threads about the same stuff and on the other hand the "Search" really sucks for almost every forum script there is available, also for vBulletin. Some of you write really nice how-to's, they are really much easier to deal with than reading the whole thread with (very necessary) comments like "not working here" between. Wiki would also be better place to keep basic stuff (in this case cooking and updating ROM) data available. My bottom line is (I guess ) The forum structure should be re-designed...something like this:
Wizard: basic questions, usage
Wizard: software
Wizard: accessories
Wizard: ROM updating
G3
G4
Wizard: ROM cooking
G3
G4
Wizard: ROM releases
etc...
Just my opinion, don't kill me And don't get me wrong..you all are doing incredible work here and you deserve all the credits. This all is just too BIG for the current forum structure...

WM6 BA - Will it be leaked, will it be made from scratch, and will it be stable?

Is this ROM ever going to be leaked from microsoft (i presume this was how wm5 be started)?
Porting seems to be very unstable from what I have heard

A WM5 rom was never released by microsoft, although it was known to exist. It's highly unlikely MS will create a WM6 dev rom for the BA at all.
Remember, the BA originally shipped with WM2003SE. WM5 was a struggle to get working, WM6 should (by an unwritten law) be unable to run on the BA. But there are some gods out there so you never know.

Many drivers in WM6 are almost exactly the same as WM5 AFAIK. Drivers are normally the big problem, so if you have good drivers for the BA, then it's a possibility.... but don't hold your breath.
V

So was wm5 BA never really created by microsoft?
In that case, who did create it? Did someone do it from scratch?
If they did, why can't they do it in crossbow (wm6 Blue Angel)?

I think it's a bastard son of a Wizard leak.
V

hardingt0110 :
You still didn't read the wiki and the older threads as I told you few weeks ago
But Microsoft is the one who makes OS (WM5, WM2003SE,WM2003,...).
O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile, Cingular... are the ones who adapt WMx to devices.
WM5 for BA has been ported from different (but very similar) device that already comes with WM5 by xda-developers.
You cant buy it (WM6), even if you want So be patient

Biohead said:
A WM5 rom was never released by microsoft, although it was known to exist. It's highly unlikely MS will create a WM6 dev rom for the BA at all.
Remember, the BA originally shipped with WM2003SE. WM5 was a struggle to get working, WM6 should (by an unwritten law) be unable to run on the BA. But there are some gods out there so you never know.
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The Roms never released for devices by microsoft, the producers use and adapt roms for him devices.
If HTC use Wm6 rom for him devices and Reproduce or advance BA to the WM6 or similar device then we can see WM6.
Other side If anybody can write or adapt device drivers that can be... Core software hasn't any driver i think. May be someone can syncronise Wm6 shell and BA (or resemble device) Wm5 drivers
And may be work
what a dream huh...

BA WM5 base rom is genuine created for BA, and just the OS (with AKU's and stuff) part was aded to this rom ported from another device.This base rom was leaked by one of the operators

I suppose that the needed kernel would be created by someone somehow someday, because basically Microsoft creates the new ROM, gives it to the manufacturers, then the manus will try to adapt the ROM to their devices.
As I saw somewhere on the net saying the ROM can be adapted and flashed to any device, as long as the manus manage to write the necessary drivers.v.v...those kinds of stuff. It sounds logical to me. What do you guys think 'bout this?

nht_max, that's what I thought as well but I never said anything, bowing to those who know more about these things. IMHO it is not needed to recompile the kernel unless it's for a new architecture. Proved the correct drivers can be located and they are compatible with WM6, then it should just work.

Recompiling may be necessary, I think because the new ROM is much different from the old WM5. Though I believe it'll be available some nice day.

Crossbow
nht_max said:
Recompiling may be necessary, I think because the new ROM is much different from the old WM5. Though I believe it'll be available some nice day.
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You may be right about this, i have ported the OS part to BA rom without any changes in XIP section of rom (old core 5.1.195) and the device with this rom does not boot at all, so if the original core 5.2.x is ported to a BA rom it will work correctly, almost all OS files are related to the WM core, and if a function that they seek is not where it should be unpredicted crashes may occure.
But i think we should wait a lil more before try experiments like this, we have no any documentation about WM6, we don't know how the things work inside, it is similar to WM5 but defenately not the same. We must learn how it works and then port it and modify it to our own taste.
Also the leaked roms are from early beta stage, so they are not so stable and usable as the final version.We should wait a bit for the first official rom and build something stable enough from it for common usage. And i am not talking about BA here i am talking about rom cooking for all devices.

xplode said:
You may be right about this, i have ported the OS part to BA rom without any changes in XIP section of rom (old core 5.1.195) and the device with this rom does not boot at all, so if the original core 5.2.x is ported to a BA rom it will work correctly, almost all OS files are related to the WM core, and if a function that they seek is not where it should be unpredicted crashes may occure.
But i think we should wait a lil more before try experiments like this, we have no any documentation about WM6, we don't know how the things work inside, it is similar to WM5 but defenately not the same. We must learn how it works and then port it and modify it to our own taste.
Also the leaked roms are from early beta stage, so they are not so stable and usable as the final version.We should wait a bit for the first official rom and build something stable enough from it for common usage. And i am not talking about BA here i am talking about rom cooking for all devices.
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Hi,
have u changed coredll.dll in xip boot?
the devices not boot in same mode if u try aku 3.5 and have coredll.dll of aku 3.2
@Tuatara,
please help me for relocating more space in xip boot

of course not, AKU 3.5 runs fine with the old core without problems, but for crossbow the coredll should be changed in order to work, the thing is that it is bigger than the old core.
I have no knowledge of editing XIP, thats why i am stuck at this point, but i have read here on the forums that the coredll.dll can be changed with one with the exact same size, and the crossbow one is bigger.

xplode said:
of course not, AKU 3.5 runs fine with the old core without problems, but for crossbow the coredll should be changed in order to work, the thing is that it is bigger than the old core.
I have no knowledge of editing XIP, thats why i am stuck at this point, but i have read here on the forums that the coredll.dll can be changed with one with the exact same size, and the crossbow one is bigger.
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I have tried to run aku 3.5 with coredll.dll for aku 3.2 (not 3.3) and not working....(but perhaps I mistake method)
I know that there is a way in order to increase and relocate the files in xip with dumpromx but I do not know if it works for the modules (old post Tuatara on xda)
and however I have read that it must edit vdata and pdata in the modules for the just address (oki and sp3dev on buzzdev)
but sp3dev and oki not working on blu devices only tuatara have necessary experience on blu devices and I believe can help

xplode said:
Recompiling may be necessary, I think because the new ROM is much different from the old WM5.
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You may be right about this, i have ported the OS part to BA rom without any changes in XIP section of rom (old core 5.1.195) and the device with this rom does not boot at all, so if the original core 5.2.x is ported to a BA rom it will work correctly, almost all OS files are related to the WM core, and if a function that they seek is not where it should be unpredicted crashes may occure.
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I don't understand this. Recompiling is only required for a different architecture in my experience, but I've not done much with this platform myself. Is it linking in specific BA drivers or something?
Also the leaked roms are from early beta stage, so they are not so stable and usable as the final version.We should wait a bit for the first official rom and build something stable enough from it for common usage. And i am not talking about BA here i am talking about rom cooking for all devices.
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I agree 100%, though I'm sure some of you will still tinker around. Interesting stuff.

we can use BA wm5 drivers, they should work fine, WM5 is 5.1.x and WM6 is 5.2.x not a major 6.0.x release do the changes are not so drastic and the drivers should work
look at windows windows 2000 uses the same drivers as xp, windows 2000 is NT5 xp is NT5.1

OK guys, thanks for your help.
So basically the main part of the wm5 rom for the BA was made by an unnamed operator, who decided not to release it, but it was leaked to xda-developers.
Then the developers made the aku's and customisations from scratch / ported from other devices, and combined them to make a full wm5 rom.
Some people (xplode and others) seem to think that the wm5 main part rom can be used to host all the bells and whistles from wm6.
So basically, all we need to do is wait untill an official very stable wm6 rom is made for a Blue Angel like device, port it, and we're all set!
Am I right?
Oh, and one last question: is the name for the main part of the rom a "kernel"? thanks,
Always be faithful in the xda-developers,
hardingt0110-1

Looking at other threads, some think it may be necesary to use sd cards as rom.
I have two sd cards (1gb and 2gb) which I swap between on my BA to allow me to have tomtom maps and movies on my device.
Untill now, I have ignored extrom.
Is it possible for me to install the extrom on both cards, so that I can swap them over when I want?
hardingt0110-1

Still Lurking ...
Hey There ... I thought I might just come out of the woodwork for a little bit ...
sostekit said:
have u changed coredll.dll in xip boot?
@Tuatara,
please help me for relocating more space in xip boot
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sostekit said:
I know that there is a way in order to increase and relocate the files in xip with dumpromx but I do not know if it works for the modules (old post Tuatara on xda)
and however I have read that it must edit vdata and pdata in the modules for the just address (oki and sp3dev on buzzdev)
but sp3dev and oki not working on blu devices only tuatara have necessary experience on blu devices and I believe can help
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I've been quite able to make some space in the XIP section by moving files around (to make space for larger boot registries, etc.), but I haven't had any luck with moving around modules. I think it was mamaich (and/or bepe) who managed to get the new core.dll (which has the new LASS_xxx entry points) into the BA XIP section ... but I haven't had the time to see how they managed it.
I do have the source for RomMaster & dumprom, and will be going through the details at some point - when I have the time (which is always lacking). In the same way as figuring out the Acer ROM for mamaich's tools - I'll need to see if we can dump out and 'move' modules & files around to make the space required. This may just have to be a 'one off' manual hex editing job though (fixing the tables).
While in theory the WM5 drivers should work just fine, a number of our "WM5" drivers are still 2003SE versions. How long we can keep using the old drivers is anyone's guess.
In short - as long as the XIP section contains all of the entry points and support calls required by the 'new' OS, and can start the "new" OS, then the OS portion of the ROM can be replaced. This is what we are doing with the BA now. The XIP section is still (effectively) the original leaked WM5 build, with very little, and as little replaced as possible, but just enough in order to boot the "new" OS, which has been put in the remainder of the ROM.
For reference, you can find a listing of the new functions in core.dll from here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobiledocs/
As far as I know (from xda-dev & runour mill) the core.dll entry points have not changed between versions wm5/6 ... but that's not to say that some things don't operate differently.
Only time will tell if we can port/hack wm6 on to a Blue Angel.

One place, lots of questions.

Hi all,
As this is my inaugural post and I am a noob I decided to add all my eggs to one basket.
I have an I-mate K-jam and currently have this ROM installed on it.
RUU_TMobile_US_226102_22610105_022511_WEE_Ship
Along with:
REAL_Radio_2.61.11
IPL 2.26
SPL 2.26
GSM 02.61.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I first started messing around with the ROM version as the latest ROM from Imate did not work properly with Vista as there was a section missing that allowed you to switch between RNDIS and Serial connection over USB.
I first installed AKU3.2-1.ORC1 which I got from this site and that also did not have the Switch software included.
Anyway I then decided as I was messing around I would unlock the CID as I was going to install the AKU 3.3 from Faria. So I followed the instructions and downgraded and unlocked the CID (whatever that is) and it was recommended to install the T-Online ROM so as to get a stable IPL/SPL 2.26.
I followed all the instructions and everything worked perfectly and the T-Online ROM had the USB to PC software included so I decided not to bother upgrading further.
I also was not happy with the Bluetooth functionality with the Imate AKU hence upgrading, but all the ROMS or AKUs whatever you want to call them are all the same, the bluetooth functionality is crap and limited to only OBEX push.
Is there an ugrade to the bluetooth stack that will give me full functionality and not just this cut down version.
Also the Phone upgrade I did to 02.61.11 is awful, I was running 02.26.... before upgrading and that version had a proper phone display with nice blue buttons and stuff, this new one has nasty grey buttons and keeps popping up the address book as soon as you type a number. Can someone intergrate the better functionality of the 61.11 version with the look of the 02.26 version please?
If I upgrade to the AKU 3.3 will this include the USB to PC in settings -> Connections? will it include a fully functional Bluetooth stack? will it include the better look and feel of the phone with the upgraded functionality?
So my questions are:
Where can I get a fully functional Bluetooth stack from?
Is it worth upgrading to AKU3.3?
Can the functionality of 2.61 and the look and feel of 2.26 be combined into a better radio ROM?
Sorry for being a newbie but everyone has to start somewhere and i have read through all 19 pages of this forum and not found what I want to know, but this could be because I do not know half of what you are talking about.
Cheers
Steve
Flame suit well and truely zipped up

wurzel555 said:
Where can I get a fully functional Bluetooth stack from?
Is it worth upgrading to AKU3.3?
Can the functionality of 2.61 and the look and feel of 2.26 be combined into a better radio ROM?
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1. there's only microsoft bluetooth stack for wizard
2. yes
3. radio version doesn't have anything with look and feel of the phone application

Ah ha now I understand things abit more, I installed the AKU 3.3 version and am now happy with my K-jam except for the bluetooth functionality which sucks but you can't have everything can you
Cheers
Steve

Upgrading to wm6 on Xda IIs

hi mates. is it possible to upgrade my Xda IIs with Windows mobile 5 or 6.? right now it has 2003.
please help me if its possible. or tell me some site where i will get some step-by-step proceidure.
Regards

I know that there is a WM6 for BA out there for a week, but have not tried out yet. Try search around here in this forum first for the WM5, which is very rich

There is NO WM6 for the XDAIIs (Blue Angel).
There are numerous WM5 ROMS for the BA though.
Everything you need to know is here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Home

ruk_design said:
hi mates. is it possible to upgrade my Xda IIs with Windows mobile 5 or 6.? right now it has 2003.
please help me if its possible. or tell me some site where i will get some step-by-step proceidure.
Regards
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You made time to do multiple posts but didn't spend a few seconds on searching?

the_scotsman said:
There is NO WM6 for the XDAIIs (Blue Angel).
There are numerous WM5 ROMS for the BA though.
Everything you need to know is here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Home
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There is, and I have it as well, dude. Some Vietnamese at handheldvn.com forum are using it and discussing quite a bit on it. Myself have not tried it out, because I have no time for the moment.
(http://www.handheld.com.vn/forum/showthread.php?t=55894)
link for the ROM is here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/15740822/f5c66922/ROM_53505_AKU_352_WM6_.html
I am surprise why it is not announced in this welknown forum?? Is the one at handheldvn a fake one?

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There is, and I have it as well, dude. Some Vietnamese at handheldvn.com forum are using it and discussing quite a bit on it. Myself have not tried it out, because I have no time for the moment.
(http://www.handheld.com.vn/forum/showthread.php?t=55894)
link for the ROM is here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/15740822/f5c66922/ROM_53505_AKU_352_WM6_.html
I am surprise why it is not announced in this welknown forum?? Is the one at handheldvn a fake one?
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Thanx a lot dude. but is that file is in english? i dont think so. and also it will work for my XDA IIS. and also in case of some trouble. should i downgrade to my old rom.? just let me know. i also have the old rom image.

Yes, English
The forum is in Vietnamese, but the ROM is entirely in English. I have seen some screen shots, and they are all English. Have fun, dude. I am waiting for a vacation when I can make change to this one

I doubt it is windows mobile 6, the guy has not shown the version in any of there screeshots and apart from that, one of the screenshot attached here , dats xplodes R5 screenshot

if i remember well...it was said that the new rom is about 64MBs...however you can download from the link mentioned a 34Mb file in which extrom folder contains a 7Mb camera template cab...

I've tried it
I was also quite doubtful there would be an R6 for our BA, but since I'm about to re-install it, I decided to download it and give it a try.
And I confirm that it's still WM5. Some of the icons have changed, but it's still the same old thing with some WM6 icons.
Some details:
OS build: 15706.3.5.2
the default device name = PDAViet. Which is a known ROM "builder" on the UNI Forum.
Need some more testing, but all and all it seems to be working.
So, maybe it's all new, but it may have a few elements you may care for.

It works...
Hey maaan, thanks a lot, this ROM is perfect... I have Upgraded it at about 30 minutes ago, and i'm trying it.... I think it is not WM5 with WM6 icons, because everything is like in WM6....perfect, wifi works (i have tried to find wifi-net, it found it in 2 seconds...), BT too (i have tried only with my USB-BT on PC, and connect it), GUI is beautiful, nice themes.... PERFECT....
only one thing is bad - there isn't any FILE EXPLORER, but you can install total commander with active sync and then you can search your SD card or memory Phone works too (I have 1.15 Radio ROM)
And one thing which i don't like (but i had got same problem with explode ROM too) : Camera has got one white pixel.... so big white dot on the photo but nevermind..... this is super ROM Thank you again buddy...

So, it is right, it is WM5 with really realistic WM6 Interface.... but still perfect ROM

Thanks for the recent posts
Thanks all for the recent posts. I saw quite many positive applause on this version at the Vietnamese forum. Take care!

I knew WM6 doesn't yet exist for BA...
I'll give this one a miss....

yes thanks a lot. i also upgraded my O2 XDA IIS and its working perfect. great Rom . one little question. when i display my syatem info. its showing 96 MB ram instead of 127 Mb. and also. its not displaying any Extrom version.
i wrote all my info below.. so give me some info about this.
but overall the rom version is perfect thanks a lot.
ROM VERSION 5.35.05.WWE
ROM DATE 05/08/07
RADIO VERSION 1.12.00
PROTOCOL VERSION 1337.42
EXTROM VERSION

Hah some noob has cooked my rom with my kitchen and now publish it as hes own how silly the people can be i know every bug which it may cause,i know the reason for the bugs (and solution to them) but it is too hard to fix them. We will see what the noob will do with my rom

xplode said:
Hah some noob has kooked my rom with my kitchen and now publish it as hes own how silly the people can be i know every bug which it may cause and i know the reason for the bugsm but it is too hard to fix them. We will see what the noob will do with my rom
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Thanks, xplode, I'll keep an eye for you in case you got stuck with Vietnamese

also for great WM6 theme you all can use the brand new Wisbar Advance 3 Beta2 it has Wm6 theme builtin

Explode please, can you upload it? Or is it possible to find it on the web?

when i was using 2003 on my O2 XDA IIS. i perform hard reset by pressing the top power button and the reset button. and now i have upgraded to wm2005 and again i am doing this. but it wont work. its only soft resetting. so anyone know how to perform hard reset. so i will get my registry setting to defaults. cause i made many mess in the registry for tweaking