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I've installed xplode's kitchen, just his own with all but terminal services checked, and it gave me a very strange glitch, where on the initial setup screen, there was no background -- only text and buttons. So I had to imagine where I need to paste that 11 o'clock. Then it did setup, but the today screen had all-white background, with no text in sections but only small icons between the lines. And the bummer was that the phone had the same white square where the keypad and number used to be! Nothing except top and bottom bars. After a couple reinstalls it became just very slow... Even on the initial attempt it didn't install at first so I had to run the installer the second time.
Fortunately, I needed to do a reinstall anyways to get rid of ExtROM, so I downgraded to 2003SE, removed ExtROM, and then installed Helmi's. It gave me the setup screen right away, and I was really happy! So I forgot to insert the SD card with ExtROM right away -- just did it afterwards and ran Autorun manually, then clicked on all three CABs. Is that OK? Looks like it differs from wiki, doesn't it -- no Middle Eastern CAB, etc.?
In any case, under Helmi's, I have a normal Today screen and a good-looking Phone. Why did their backgrounds disappear under xplode's?
Obviously, helmi's at 5.04, while xplode is at 5.35. xplode's has newer office mobile parts. I'd appreciate people's comparisons, and xplode's suggestions on how to fix the background issue!
because in mine the default checked things fill the rom space almost completely but if you check more, the rom in the most of the time is unbootable, in your case it boots to some state ... keep an eye of the free spacee left at the end of buildong of the rom.
The version of my rom is like that because i modified it, the drivers are the same as AKU2.3, in helmi the drivers are modified
Side Note, the title of this thread is misleading, and sounds stupid, for more info on both roms you can read the proper threads
xplode, thanks for the explanation -- I did read many threads, still that's a lot of data to parse. So how do I make sure, after running CreateROM batch, that the ROM will fit -- what exactly do I check?
Also, the comparison is not stupid at all -- when someone sees two ROMs, the first question is, how exactly are they different? Which one is newer and, well, better, right? Nothing wrong with that. Obviously there were reasons for you guys to come up with two different versions -- hence the questions. Reasonable?
This is kind of bizarre...every time I click on my start menu, the number of items shown as the recently run programs just duplicate themselves! For example, if I have two items there, the next time I click on my start menu I will have 4, and then 6, 8,10,12, etc...
Aside from that, once the list goes over 10, the start menu turns white and I can only see the icons without the text labels of what they are.
Anyone else run into this or know how to fix it?
Yes, had the same thing. Backed up my PIM data, then HR'ed and it was the last I saw of the double-then-white start menu.
But it was EXTREMELY annoying, damn right.
Ah, one more thing: you mislabeled the issue but described it accurately: it's always two latest entries that get doubled, until the whole goes out of bounds and turns white...
Fixed part of the title
I HR'd a couple times and continued to have the same problem after re-installing various software...so I tried being more deliberate on installing the software and testing things out after each install (if for some reason having a certain program in the list was causing the problem). So far things are good.
i had the problem when i was using the Cube on my phone. I changed from the original 3 sided cube to the Sclpc++ cube and no longer have the problem. So if you are using one of the cubes, that may possibly be the problem.
I thought about using another, but ended up going with sclpc++ from the get-go. There's a -slight- possibility that the problem could have been from accidentally trying to run multiple instances of efrost's touchflo software. But that's just a theory...and from what it sounds like, the problem occurs in different instances that aren't visibly linked.
you might be on to something as I've just realized that the whole thing started soon after my changing ROMs to Schaps' 4.31 AND installing a cube with its own FtouchFlo config... right now, I'm using an older cube (Vista-style by poorlyduck), but have deactivated Schaps' TouchFlo. And haven't run into the white menu since.
Then again, it may be just an unfortunate combination of installed soft and/or customizations...
I'm not so sure that it is the cube though...I ran into this problem when I first received my tilt and was isntalling software on the stock image. After removing and the SR'ing the device followed by the software re-install, the problem went away...granted it only happened once. Regardless of when it happens, it seems thusfar to correct itself after re-installing/removing software so it's hard to say exactly what's causing it.
This happens to me at least once every two weeks. I have found that it occurs when program shortcuts get moved down to the bottom box on the start menu and are then grouped in with the "Programs" and "Settings" folders. If you go into "settings" then click "menus" and change a few check marks around it should reset, however there will still be a shortcut or two on the bottom box. Another thing to try is to go into the windows folder then the start menu folder and just play around in there until it goes away...maybe delete the shortcuts in question and then recopy them back if they disappear from the start menu. Uninstalling and reinstalling the offending programs works as well, it's just a little more hassle in my eyes. My two noob cents.
-Louis
Try checking this out here...I'll be trying this out being as this has been a suggested solution to the problem.
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Another thing to try is to go into the windows folder then the start menu folder and just play around in there until it goes away...maybe delete the shortcuts in question and then recopy them back if they disappear from the start menu.
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Thanks dude that worked..!! I just cut/pasted the shortcuts to another folder and then pasted them back when it was working fine...
Oh and for me the problem occurred after installing touchflo and sclpc++
-dnash
I went to the program tab on TF3D and noticed that an extra row of blank spaces appeared out of nowhere. I didnt think it was that bad since I get an extra row. Unfortunately when I try add a new program, it stays blank and another row of blank icons appear! Anyone know how to get rid of this?
You can manage the icons/programs in the program tab with a freeware utility called "diamond TF3D Config" (you will find it here by using the search)
Greetz
Boris
I know all about TF3d config. Im having problems with the amount of rows present in my programs tab. I cant use them and I cant remove them. I havent installed any programs lately and IDK wth I need to do to get rid of them. So far I have 12 rows of unusable [+] icons. TF3d Config does not manage this.
I have the same problem!!!
I now have an extra page (3x3 icons) of "add program" icons.
In tf3d config it shows the programs I wanted to add, which appear as add program.
And if I try to delete them the add icons still stay....
Does anyone know a solution?
Thanks
ditto... I randomly got the same problem about 2 days ago shorty after I installed the diamond config I think. I also installed the footprints cab and navipanel as well... and recently installed facebook chat and wfacebook.
maybe one of these new installs caused the issue?
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ditto... I randomly got the same problem about 2 days ago shorty after I installed the diamond config I think. I also installed the footprints cab and navipanel as well... and recently installed facebook chat and wfacebook.
maybe one of these new installs caused the issue?
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Had the same problem too guys, it has nothing to do with the footprints cab or facebook chat, all you need to do are some very simple registry edits. I saw the solution a while back in this forum. Can't remember any more what the title of the thread was, but it solved my problem. Will try to find it and get back to you.
EDIT: Found it! Here you go: (credit goes to Rabangus)
Open the registry editor and go to:
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher
In there you should only have keys 0-17. Just delete any additional key you find there (i.e. key 18 and above), do a soft-reset and you're done
Hope this helps...
Peter
thnks this solved the problem.
yeah this happened to me a while ago and that solution worked
That's great and all but WHY did it happen in the first place?
Thats part of the mystery.
maybe u have installed xbodmod manilla HD and then u have unistalled.. that should give u some new entries in program tab..
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Had the same problem too guys, it has nothing to do with the footprints cab or facebook chat, all you need to do are some very simple registry edits. I saw the solution a while back in this forum. Can't remember any more what the title of the thread was, but it solved my problem. Will try to find it and get back to you.
EDIT: Found it! Here you go: (credit goes to Rabangus)
Open the registry editor and go to:
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher
In there you should only have keys 0-17. Just delete any additional key you find there (i.e. key 18 and above), do a soft-reset and you're done
Hope this helps...
Peter
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Excellent post, this one had me confused as well but your solution took care of that.
Is there any way to make these extra buttons functional instead of deleting them?
I have the same problem - extra row of icons that I cannot assign to programs...
It happened to me just after I clicked on the FM Radio icon, I had just installed the TP2 icons which installed that icon but since my phone did not have an FM Radio it gave me a really weird error and that's when the icons showed up.
Hi everyone,
I could use some help from the experienced TYTN owners out there:
I just purchased a used HTC TYTN II (my first pocket PC). The person who owned it previously downloaded the Ulitmate X.V4 ROM and Manila 2d into the phone already (took me a while to figure out what the "xda-developers" screen was that popped up every time I turned on my phone!).
1st problem- tried to simply customize my today screen by selecting items to be displayed in the 'settings>personal>today' tab. I check off the items I want as per the operation manual (i.e. tasks, appointments) but after clicking 'ok' nothing has changed on the today screen. When I go back into the settings, what I checked is no longer checked. Frustrating!!
So then I thought maybe this problem would be solved by adding a customization program. Downloaded the Manila customizer and a theme off this site (as a newbie, learned to download cabs by trial and error- couldn't find any clear cut beginner instructions on the internet on how to do this- so who knows if I've done it right). Loaded the theme this didn't help me customize what's on the today screen nor did the background change (only the title bars and menus changed)- no idea why or how to fix this.
I also tried to download the HTC home plugin, HHC customizer and appearances files. Managed to successfully download the customizer and appearances but the app won't run because I don't have the HTC home plugin and this file won't download. Every time I try I get the message: "installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions." What does this mean??
Basically, all I want is a today screen that is customized to show my appointments, tasks along with the clock, calls, etc. And a nice theme would be great. Why can't I do this?! If anyone has suggestions or some links to beginner information that would be awesome.
I would also like to be able to download apps and run them... I have a TomTom GPS moblie disk but considering I can't even display my appointments on my phone, getting this to work will be mission impossible! Again, anything that will point me in the right direction would be much appreciated!
Jenn
u need to unload your manila in order for you to show all those today menu
OMG thank you so much- it's all good now. I sadly would not have figured out such a simple thing and unfortunately I could not find anything on the internet that would explain this. The guy who had the phone before me obviously knew what he was doing and downloaded all kinds of stuff, which is great... but then it made the official manual useless while learning the phone!!
I have my tasks/appts on the today screen like I wanted but I'm sad that I don't have the "actions" tab with touchflo anymore
OK, my first post so be gentle.
I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.
So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.
I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.
One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)
i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot!
Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.
Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards
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Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI
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I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH
Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..
I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.
hi DTBrum,
touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000
"EnableCube"=dword:00000000
you need a registry editor to change those values.
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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.
windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu
look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today
I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.
if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.
there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.
no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.
automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.
Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.
and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.
Thankx for the replies.
What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.
Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.
Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.
No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.
Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.
As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.
My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.
I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.
Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.
dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.
i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:
1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.
2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.
as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.
Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.
I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.
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I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that.
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I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.
you've got:
flash memory - (ROM)
int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB
RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.
those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM
MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.
I have no option to remove touchflo.
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I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.
But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of.
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yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.
but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.
* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.
You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.
I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.
Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.
I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.
Rom flashed fine - quite like it.
Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.
Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.
Visited toilet.
Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.
Have changed underpants.
At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.
Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.
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plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install
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check my previous post.
try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector
format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,
rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD
hold camera button and start or reset pda
I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.
I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.
I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.
Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.
I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.
OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.
I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.
Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.
I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.
The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.
Off to have a play
If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.
Thank you to all who helped me.
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difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them
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activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.
note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.
The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device.
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tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.
but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.