Paying for freeware? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Should I be upset that mUn's WM6 aRTM was up for 5$ on ebay, and he wasn't the one selling it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWN:IT&viewitem=&item=260112128063&rd=1&rd=1
eBay user: rubayath_media
(no, I didn't realize it was freeware then...I've only come to learn this wonderful world of customization in the past 24 hours- after that hosebag nailed me)

Weasels huh!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304314
Sorry you got pinched.
Well now more of us can keep an eye out.

ya know what- I'm not sorry a bit: I would probably wouldn't have come to this forum had I not been burned. And, I'm in the process of really going elbow-deep in my 8125 and LOVING it! So, I just feel it's crap that someone else is taking the $$$ for someone else's creation.

berdinkerdickle said:
Weasels huh!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304314
Sorry you got pinched.
Well now more of us can keep an eye out.
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I just went to Ebay and typed in "Windows Mobile 6" into their Search Engine. Just look at what came up!!! And, they originated from THIS forum, I'm sure. . .
http://search.ebay.com/Windows-Mobile-6_W0QQfromZR40
I've got a good mind to report ALL of them to Ebay . . . and surprised that Microsoft hasn't . . . yet.

ought to just report to eBay.

Conversely buyable is this
For those of us that love our PDAs and PDA phones I created the themes that I am selling on eBay to anyone who loves the gear and beautiful women - and NO they are not nudes and porn. But, for anyone that likes what they see and wants some I will give 6 for the price of 3.
Take a look:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MESE:IT&viewitem=&item=190106886535&rd=1&rd=1
I hope you like it all.

I have used WM6 ROMs and I'm grateful for the cooks providing them, but let's call a spade a spade here - it's NOT "freeware". Microsoft make WM available to ODMs for a licence fee.

PaulMdx said:
... Microsoft make WM available to ODMs for a licence fee.
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Licence fee?
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/02/27/windows-mobile-6-free-to-pda-manufacturers-issuing-upgrades/

hanmin said:
Licence fee?
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/02/27/windows-mobile-6-free-to-pda-manufacturers-issuing-upgrades/
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I must admit I did not know ODMs were not being charged for WM5->WM6 upgrade paths, however a free upgrade is not freeware.

hanmin said:
ought to just report to eBay.
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I did. Two of the listings were pulled within 1/2 hour and I've notice that a third one has now been pulled. The only items left are the Wizard phones with WM6 pre-installed. Those probably won't last much longer.

papakeithjenkins said:
For those of us that love our PDAs and PDA phones I created the themes that I am selling on eBay to anyone who loves the gear and beautiful women - and NO they are not nudes and porn. But, for anyone that likes what they see and wants some I will give 6 for the price of 3.
Take a look:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MESE:IT&viewitem=&item=190106886535&rd=1&rd=1
I hope you like it all.
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Selling themes you created is fine since you're the author but selliing something somebody else has put together and released for free is wrong to say the least....

newbie2 said:
I did. Two of the listings were pulled within 1/2 hour and I've notice that a third one has now been pulled. The only items left are the Wizard phones with WM6 pre-installed. Those probably won't last much longer.
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I dont think the phone will be pulled: those are "phones" the software on them dont really matter...I guess...

Ayle said:
Selling themes you created is fine since you're the author but selliing something somebody else has put together and released for free is wrong to say the least....
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Provided that you own the rights to the pictures of course
--M

Well i have reported both of them, due to the fact that if someone on here has put alot of work into it, NO-ONE should be selling it on, that will just bring more problems from microsoft to this site! As we are one of the biggest sites, if not the best for the wizard.
If it is given for free, no-one can be seen to be getting money from copy right of microsoft!

papakeithjenkins said:
For those of us that love our PDAs and PDA phones I created the themes that I am selling on eBay to anyone who loves the gear and beautiful women - and NO they are not nudes and porn. But, for anyone that likes what they see and wants some I will give 6 for the price of 3.
Take a look:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MESE:IT&viewitem=&item=190106886535&rd=1&rd=1
I hope you like it all.
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I dont think that is a good idea, cus those pictures are not yours!!! If i am wrong, well sorry!

papakeithjenkins said:
For those of us that love our PDAs and PDA phones I created the themes that I am selling on eBay to anyone who loves the gear and beautiful women - and NO they are not nudes and porn. But, for anyone that likes what they see and wants some I will give 6 for the price of 3.
Take a look:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MESE:IT&viewitem=&item=190106886535&rd=1&rd=1
I hope you like it all.
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Seems like your quite fond of selling freeware on ebay....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlock-your-Cin...yZ115054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlock-Seimens-...yZ115054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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TOMTOM 6 ON XDA11I - LEGAL VERSION

Weatheryoko will be pleased to hear that i have today ordered my LEGAL version of TomTom 6 - after trying the tomtom 5.21 (Cracked version) and the tomtom 6 (Cracked version) and various other nav systems(all Cracked), i have decided that tomtom are a good system to use. The reason for my trying these different versions is because i paid mercedes £1500 to have satnav fitted in a car i ordered from them and found it to be utter rubbish, besides not being portable between vehicles etc. Once fitted it's then obviously too late for refunds etc. As there isn't any option, i've found, to test these systems before purchase, it made sense to try the cracked versions.
As Weatheryoko is so anti-piracy i trust he will now hand back any owned property, to the indigenous population/native americans, that were "stolen" "pirated" from them by his forebears, and will campaign on their behalf for other such lands to be returned - or is it the usual - do as i say not as i do :wink:
Glad to hear it....
I'm glad to hear that your buying a legal version, and thanks for the "jabs". Just so you know, I'm an immigrant and I (nor my ancestors) were here when the lands were stolen from the Native Americans. We weren't even here during the last "land grab" of 1889. Believe me when I say this, I think is was shameless the way they were treated. Having lived in Oklahoma (which is Choctaw for "Red People" FYI), I know this story too well. Maybe this is what prompted me to donate funds to the American Indian College Fund. I would recommend that you get to know people first, before making rash judgements. Maybe that was the problem with the early American settlers? What do you think? Mate, if you want to throw stones in glass houses, do you want to talk about the Ireland or Scotland? We could also talk about slavery (which both your and my country had at one time) if you chose. The bottom line, neither country is clean. Atrocities know no political boundary. Darfur, Nazi Germany, Crusades, Bosnia, Cambodia... pick one. I can't change the past, but I can choose how I live in the present. If I see someone doing something wrong, I try to do something about it. I'm not perfect. I **** things up occassionally, but I learn, try to make things right and move on.
This isn't an attack on you, so please don't take it personally. However, reading your comments prompted me to respond. Since this thread is already way off topic, I won't comment any further. Bottom line, glad to see that you bought the legal version. Please encourage others to do so. I do wish though that TomTom would provide an "evaluation version" so people could evaluate it for while before purchasing. This may cut down on the wide-spread use of cracked versions.
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weatheryoko said:
I do wish though that TomTom would provide an "evaluation version" so people could evaluate it for while before purchasing. This may cut down on the wide-spread use of cracked versions.
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Agreed, to expect someone to pay that much without testing it a bit first is a bit much imo.
You can see it in a shop but not just try driving down the street a bit which would give you a proper idea of what its like.
Weatheryoko - it wasn't meant as a personal attack i was just using irony as an example - agreed the world is probably never going to be perfect - but please don't judge people for using what is available for evaluation or other reasons - surely that is the greatest tool that the internet and forums such as this provide - btw tomtom is a good product imho and i took the opportunity only to evaluate the possibilities before parting with my ill gotten gains having been stung before :wink: Enough said, as you rightly stated this is way off topic - and we all have our own opinions, which is why the world is, as is. :roll:
well done ..but the tt6 version isn't compatable with tt6 on tomtom website yet,but i'm sure you will gloat at how well it works if it does work ,i'm waiting for some positives before i splash out this time
Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(
I ordered mine from the guy that supplies me with all my desktop/laptops and all other it/comms paraphernalia - and as one of his best :wink: customers, hopefully he'll come up with the goods as soon as he has them. But he has been known to be notoriously slow at times - so i won't hold my breath - it's only an order and as i understand you can order from pc world business or, presumably, other retailers - unfortunately i don't have a delivery date as such, just a promise, but then again i'm in no hurry, it's only another toy to play with!
RommelAcc said:
Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(
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you can't it hasn't been released yet ..the only thing you can do is PRE-order a copy
I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.
andypa1 said:
I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.
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I've been informed that TT5/5.21 maps are not compatible with TT6
jmdrizen said:
andypa1 said:
I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.
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I've been informed that TT5/5.21 maps are not compatible with TT6
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yup they get you buy the short and curleys as teh software is free you only pay for the maps
All TomTom maps, voices etc. are coded to the individual TomTom software ID and are not interchangeable across TomTom users or TomTom versions, you need to buy everything all over again.
Got your TT6 yet dude? I have it up and running on 2 PDA's right here and i've put it on my mates XDA Mini IIs to. Not the legit version you undertand!
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RommelAcc said:
Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(
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TheShowStopper said:
Got your TT6 yet dude? I have it up and running on 2 PDA's right here and i've put it on my mates XDA Mini IIs to. Not the legit version you undertand!
[email protected]
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Hi,
could you please tell me where can I download tt6 for my xda11i along with uk maps.
I do have tt5installed in my xda but cannot get it to work with my bluetooth gps. maybe tt6 would work. many thx
aman22k said:
Hi,
could you please tell me where can I download tt6 for my xda11i along with uk maps.
I do have tt5installed in my xda but cannot get it to work with my bluetooth gps. maybe tt6 would work. many thx
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Removed By Admin. So see above post link there
DAz999 said:
try here.
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewforum.php?f=38
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Daz please dont be a ****in muppet and DONT post warez!
I have had enough of people not thinking before posting pirated software. XDA Developers is a very valuable resource that can be closed down very quickly beacuse of pirated software, and thats something I dont ever want to see happen.
Dont get me wrong I use pirated software as much as the next person, but I dont go posting it on legit sites! Ejits like you are what get messsage boards closed down.
XDA DEV IS NOT A WAREZ BOARD SO DONT TREAT IT LIKE ONE!
RANT OVER!
Legal
You want to take a chill pill, i only posted a link to another website, I have posted no illegal files in this post and nor does the link take you directly to a warez file download, XDA dev are not legally responsible for links to other websites. You should check the legal stuff before you RANT at me.
PS Dicussion of Cooking ROMs is acceptable on this site, so check your facts please.

info regarding AT&T WM6

I was talking to AT&T business customer service regarding my account. Before i got off the phone i asked a question regarding the availability of WM6 for the treo 750. He said the upgrade is out and available to all thier retail stores in effort to upgrade the existing stock of Treo 750 with WM5 to WM6 in preperation for the arrival of the new TREO 750 with WM6 included. Once the above mentioned is complied with, the upgrade for existing users will hit the perverbial shelves...
Giving Back..
jhowle
WM6 ROM
I was talking to my Tarot Card reader, and she told me that the WM6 ROM would be arriving when the marriage of the moon and the cat had passed the arrival of the white knight. She also told me that I would blessed with much fortune after a period of intense hunger and longing. So...I got that going for me!
dma1965 said:
I was talking to my Tarot Card reader, and she told me that the WM6 ROM would be arriving when the marriage of the moon and the cat had passed the arrival of the white knight. She also told me that I would blessed with much fortune after a period of intense hunger and longing. So...I got that going for me!
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*sigh* People these days...
Anyways. Thanks for the info, jhowle.
Why is it when you try to post honest info, you get met with snide remarks from people who have swelled heads and think they know everything. I don't understand, why even post post this kind of small mindless dribble.this is not this first time i have gotten this kinda reply...
dma1965 said:
I was talking to my Tarot Card reader, and she told me that the WM6 ROM would be arriving when the marriage of the moon and the cat had passed the arrival of the white knight. She also told me that I would blessed with much fortune after a period of intense hunger and longing. So...I got that going for me!
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jhowle,
Thanks for posting your info here. I think we're all a little jaded when it comes to the multiple dates, timeframes, plans and timelines posted from AT&T, Cingular, Palm, and others. I'm hoping that your information pans out. I guess I need to stop at the AT&T store on the way home today...
Can anyone confirm that the stores have the update? A link would be nice.
Thanks,
-CraigDo
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A link would be nice.
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Or a helpful leak from an AT&T emplo...errr...anonymous uploader.
*innocent face*
What do you mean Snide?
I think this poster has as much chance of getting an honest answer getting information about WM6 from a gypsy then tech support from AT&T. Poster is making a Joke (true) but a joke none the less. Don't be so sensitive!
Oh.. im not jaded at all.. infact the blackberry curve is looking pretty right about now. I've been surving this country for 12 years in the USAF. Waiting for this new upgrade to come out is sorta small compared to current events and you would understand if you were in my shoes.
Thanks
edbutler said:
I think this poster has as much chance of getting an honest answer getting information about WM6 from a gypsy then tech support from AT&T. Poster is making a Joke (true) but a joke none the less. Don't be so sensitive!
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At least somebody here gets the point I was trying to make. The bottom line is that there is no way of knowing what AT&T, or Verizon, Or T-Mobile, or anyone is going to do at any time. It does not matter what anyone says here. If I create a fake avatar with the AT&T logo and pretend I am the CEO of AT&T and tell you it will be released tomorrow, will you believe me? If you do, what happens when it does not show up? I truly appreciate any info anyone gives here...HONESTLY I DO!!! I just happen to think this is all very funny, so I am trying to lighten things up.
I gotta go now. My numerologist is here to tell me who is going to win the presidential election.
Alright,, thats enough for me,, i'm done posting.. period.
dma1965 said:
At least somebody here gets the point I was trying to make. The bottom line is that there is no way of knowing what AT&T, or Verizon, Or T-Mobile, or anyone is going to do at any time. It does not matter what anyone says here. If I create a fake avatar with the AT&T logo and pretend I am the CEO of AT&T and tell you it will be released tomorrow, will you believe me? If you do, what happens when it does not show up? I truly appreciate any info anyone gives here...HONESTLY I DO!!! I just happen to think this is all very funny, so I am trying to lighten things up.
I gotta go now. My numerologist is here to tell me who is going to win the presidential election.
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Really?!?!?!
jhowle said:
Alright,, thats enough for me,, i'm done posting.. period.
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Do you really get offended with dma post?
You are a trully "boçal" my friend!!!
Good luck on your dumb life...
i come on here to try to offer advise and generally be helpful, i didn't come here to get my balls busted on every post i make so I am through, sorry i dont wanna be part of verbal abuse.. like I said, you wont be hearing from me anymore
Didn't you just say that in your last post.
Don't go away mad! Relax put your feet up and crack open a cold beer, You are taking things a bit to serious. We enjoy hearing from you and thank you for your frank criticism. Now go jump in a lake!
My Treo can beat up your Treo.
Wow, he now has the "Official" link
jhowle said:
i come on here to try to offer advise and generally be helpful, i didn't come here to get my balls busted on every post i make so I am through, sorry i dont wanna be part of verbal abuse.. like I said, you wont be hearing from me anymore
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So you mean we won't be hearing from you anymore *in this thread*.

Dutty's rom and Olipro unlocker is on ebay!!!!

This seller is selling Duffy's as he own on ebay check out this link. And also Olipro unlocker too!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-WINDOWS-MOB...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
What can I do to help get this bum?
I wonder if that would be a copy right violation because he's getting money for it? hmmmm
I think it is
What can we do?
Report it!!!
I just made a report on ebay I hope it works
You know, this isn't the first time this has happened.
Yeah I know but it just ain't right. Its stealing.
Report the listing to ebay
If a few people flag this listing as counterfeit then it should be removed swiftly enough by ebay.
Here's a link to do that:
http://cgi1.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=110261357706&seller=lnstantdelivery&active=1
Note: I'm not sure if this guy is actually breaking the rules or not. I'm not familiar with the software licenses.
I think as a result of immoral actions like this, the guy who cooked Herald´s Touch-IT (Itje I think it is), got pissed big-time and removed all the links to his ROM.
I definitely wouldn't like that to happen to any other ROM. These guys bust their asses working on this. Hope there is something else we can do in order to prevent this.
lanroth said:
If a few people flag this listing as counterfeit then it should be removed swiftly enough by ebay.
Here's a link to do that:
http://cgi1.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=110261357706&seller=lnstantdelivery&active=1
Note: I'm not sure if this guy is actually breaking the rules or not. I'm not familiar with the software licenses.
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Good point. I'm not familiar with software licenses or copyrighten material either, but never the less, I created a signature based on the link you provided.
robosiris said:
Good point. I'm not familiar with software licenses or copyrighten material either, but never the less, I created a signature based on the link you provided.
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Good Idea, lets get this bum kicked off ebay if we can.
Have a look at his other items and see how many roms he is selling.....
http://stores.ebay.com/lnstantdelivery
I refuse to have a e-bay account, therefor i cannot send seller a message. But eveybody that does should send the seller a message asking why anyone would pay for somthing that we can do for free, and then reference xda-developers.
He's making a living off of stolen software and windows mobile upgrades!!! And I bet it's all free software too.
Ebay has done nothing
Ok i reported this to ebay like 10 hours ago and still nothig this seller is still on selling Dutty's and Olipro work. What else can I do? I started this thread I'm not stopping til I shut down this bum. So who's with me
wow what a douche. i hope oli will cut off his testicles and sell it on ebay. just spoke to some guy using the chat feature and they will look into it.
just sent message to seller asking why is he selling free stuff? and that I am reporting him to ebay. Man is there licensing document for dutty's rom? Its like those websites who try to sell utorrent or limewire to public.
i really wonder if he sold any of the roms/unlocker etc.
Sellers like this guy will keep popping here and there. There is nothing we can do except report it if we see one. Sad but true!
and lol whats this about?!?!?
http://cgi.ebay.com/EASY-KARAOKE-CR...99331QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
look at the bonus #3
not work or child friendly....
eXceed said:
and lol whats this about?!?!?
http://cgi.ebay.com/EASY-KARAOKE-CR...99331QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
look at the bonus #3
not work or child friendly....
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OH NO HE DIDN'T!

Windows Marketplace, will it hurt?

Hey everyone,
I am really concerned about windows marketplace. I suppose it will either help the community here by weeding out certain visitors, or it could lure all the good dev's from here with the promise of getting more than recognition for their work.
Anyone have an opinion?
It always hurts the first time.
necrolytic said:
It always hurts the first time.
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lolz i bet you say that 2 all the boyz
i think it'll be great. no more digging to find useful applications. i think the centralized market will work wonders.
its a shame they will get their are into us for it
tehhoe said:
its a shame they will get their are into us for it
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the who and the what with the huh?
telegraph0000 said:
the who and the what with the huh?
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I was going to try, but there's just no way.
necrolytic said:
It always hurts the first time.
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That's what she said.
And i don't think its going to affect us, i took 1 look at the prices they were charging for the apps and have decided that Marketplace is best left alone.
Sam
Mr. Zach said:
I was going to try, but there's just no way.
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Ahhh....his eloquence...
This mess it all mine
I have Been Looking for a vibrating keypad for a few weeks now
mine still isnt working
the funny thing is i tested it on my girlfriends it worked a treat
i want it even more now
All i know is i want it,
So cant i can wait to give it a go
my brother got one of these (or something like it) it was rubbish and very under powered.
Also it will only make the battery worse, more juice will be needed.
Yeooooooooooo
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1825687
I will be calling later
After reviewing all the past posts on this thread i will offer you a grand total of...
...$100
imagine the smell in that bedroom
A offer is a offer, if he doent like it doesnt need to attack people
Heh heh...I got too much time on my hands being unemployed....
tehhoe said:
its a shame they will get their are into us for it
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its a shame they will get their ARM! into us.
opps my bad i should really proof read.
I wouldn't worry about it. If anything, it should be useful for the platform and, as such, will benefit us all. For people like myself who flash ROMs quite often Marketplace is useless as it doesn't leave the the cabs and I'll have to redownload stuff every time. For those users who can't spend 5 minutes googling it will be a blessing and therefore will grow the market for WM apps.
What does worry me a bit is not users migrating to MP, but developers.
robinsonsam said:
That's what she said.
And i don't think its going to affect us, i took 1 look at the prices they were charging for the apps and have decided that Marketplace is best left alone.
Sam
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Is there anything free on the Windows Maketplace? The iPhone App store has a free section, just wondering if its the same kind of thing?
necrolytic said:
It always hurts the first time.
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this comment makes me feel there is a lack of a comment rating system on this forum. :-D

Android. The theif.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that we are paying out huge sums of cash for a Linux based OS that is free to use?
Because the cost of the handset doesn't factor into it at all :face palms:
I mean they handed us a broken toy and we fixed it for them with no pay and they sold it back to us as an update, now we are fixing it up more. Hopefully when Android 114.6 rolls out some devs. will for a union of some kind and make some cash from big business instead of settling for the 2.99 that their brothers and sisters are downloading.
Next time put the bong down and think before posting.
Here's your basic argument in another context:
The internet is free so why do we spend so much money on computers to browse web pages?
You fail. Thanks for playing.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
chelsea19 said:
I mean they handed us a broken toy and we fixed it for them with no pay and they sold it back to us as an update, now we are fixing it up more. Hopefully when Android 114.6 rolls out some devs. will for a union of some kind and make some cash from big business instead of settling for the 2.99 that their brothers and sisters are downloading.
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But no one asked you to fix it...?
mrbishi said:
Because the cost of the handset doesn't factor into it at all :face palms:
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Oh, no kidding, I had totally forgotten that hardware costs money somewhere on the road to neverland .
Compare prices for free vs paid OS on the same specs. Shouldn't there be a decent difference between the two?
androidlicious said:
But no one asked you to fix it...?
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True but shouldn't the devs. get what they deserve?
And the hurr durr thread of the day goes to-
Kiserai said:
Next time put the bong down and think before posting.
Here's your basic argument in another context:
The internet is free so why do we spend so much money on computers to browse web pages?
You fail. Thanks for playing.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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You fail, pretty damn horribly when you buy computers specifically, I have bought every computer I have ever owned without an OS and it has been cheaper than one with it.
chelsea19 said:
True but shouldn't the devs. get what they deserve?
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OK this whole line of "logic" is just not workin. You might wanna cut bait on this one.
Crotchety said:
OK this whole line of "logic" is just not workin. You might wanna cut bait on this one.
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Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
bcpk said:
And the hurr durr thread of the day goes to-
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And another person is born that we all would have been better of without.
chelsea19 said:
Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
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But who is it that decides the devs have been screwed. Is it you? I think that honor goes to each individual who bought the phone. You don't get to determine that someone else has been screwed just because your panties are in a bunch over something related to your phone.
The cost of a non open source operating system on a phone is going to be so heavily subsidized, I'd be surprised if the additional cost was more than a couple of dollars/pounds/whatever. Bottom line is that you're just paying for the device whichever route you take.
Also consider how long android has been out, it is definitely the quickest maturing mobile platform around. Anyone remember the state wm was in at this age?
Edit: I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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mrbishi said:
The cost of a non open source operating system on a phone is going to be so heavily subsidized, I'd be surprised if the additional cost was more than a couple of dollars/pounds/whatever. Bottom line is that you're just paying for the device whichever route you take.
Also consider how long android has been out, it is definitely the quickest maturing mobile platform around. Anyone remember the state wm was in at this age?
Edit: I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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Well said, I see and understand your point, thanks.
mrbishi said:
I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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First off, that's a toaster I want.
Second off, you're absolutely right. It's not about the money, it's about taking your phone to the next level and being able to say you were the one who got it there first. I and thousands of others have nothing but respect for these developers and a lot of us give them both props and donations for their work. I'm sure the donations are nice, but I doubt there are many devs on XDA who started writing ROMs and compiling kernels because they thought it would make them rich.
Don't understate the motivational power of random people coming into your thread to say "Your work is awesome, keep it up, and how cool would it be if it did this too?" For some people the respect is all they need, since genuine respect can't be bought, it can only be earned.
chelsea19 said:
And another person is born that we all would have been better of without.
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Wow, someone is either grumpy or cant take a joke...
You'd expect to pay money for a computer with no OS wouldnt you...
Well the same goes in this case my guessing.
Id rather have 1000's of people thanking me for my work than a few £100 in the bank if i was a dev....
chelsea19 said:
Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
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WOW. if you think unions are the answer, you have bigger problems than just android.
OMG guys I was scrolling and I thought I saw Llama's picture. ='[
Original Android <3ers! said:
OMG guys I was scrolling and I thought I saw Llama's picture. ='[
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Lol..same here

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