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Separate radio for 3G?

Are there two physical radios in the Tilt/TyTN II? I ask because I'm experiencing a strange problem that nobody else seems to have seen before. That, or nobody noticed my posts here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335096
The problem is that phone/data work fine when the phone is in non-3G mode. (In the Comm Manager, available in most recent ROMs, I have disabled the 3G mode, so I'm using only GSM here in the US).
In 3G mode, I'll get a 3G icon (used to get an H, months ago), but will be unable to place/receive calls, and no data connections will be established -- they'll all time out or say that "the answering modem has disconnected."
So, back to my question: is it possible that my radio is partly damaged? Can that happen? I'm not sure how else to explain the utter lack of 3G on my phone.

can't have a damaged radio, you could have the wrong radio for the device and/or version of windows mobile. 3g only works if in 3g area,have it enabled and turned on through comm manager.also make sure you're network settings are correct and make sure phone is set to auto in networks tab in phone settings,not set to gsm/cdma
PS, the search tool/wiki are you're friends since this has been covered too many times

dyetheskin said:
can't have a damaged radio, you could have the wrong radio for the device and/or version of windows mobile. 3g only works if in 3g area,have it enabled and turned on through comm manager.also make sure you're network settings are correct and make sure phone is set to auto in networks tab in phone settings,not set to gsm/cdma
PS, the search tool/wiki are you're friends since this has been covered too many times
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I've tried everything I can think of, and everything suggested. Nearly ever ROM I've seen, with nearly every radio; every combination of wap.cingular, isp.cingular, etc. The AT&T store thinks the phone is defective b/c they can't figure it out, either. In response to your comments: tried every version of windows mobile and most of the radios available; I'm very much in a HSDPA 3G area (used to get 5 bars "H" all the time); 3G is enabled; network settings are correct; phone is set to auto/auto.
Any other ideas, anyone? I appreciate it!

I've been have the same exact problem. I posted about it about a month and a half ago, but got nothing.
Everything worked perfectly until one day, out of nowhere, 3G stopped working for me. I've also tried multiple radios and ROMs and to no avail. The weird thing is that when it stopped working, nothing had been changed in months.
I know that I'm definitely in a 3G coverage area because I used to get 3G service all the time.
If I turn 3G on, it'll work in an edge only area, but as soon as it switches over to WCDMA, the problems occur.
This is super aggravating.

AndyNJ said:
I've been have the same exact problem. I posted about it about a month and a half ago, but got nothing.
Everything worked perfectly until one day, out of nowhere, 3G stopped working for me. I've also tried multiple radios and ROMs and to no avail. The weird thing is that when it stopped working, nothing had been changed in months.
I know that I'm definitely in a 3G coverage area because I used to get 3G service all the time.
If I turn 3G on, it'll work in an edge only area, but as soon as it switches over to WCDMA, the problems occur.
This is super aggravating.
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Well, the good part is, you're not alone. I found another forum online (can't remember where, I'm at work now and I found it last night) were several people were having the exact same problem -- in various countries around the world, including the US.
They had decent luck flashing the stock HTC ROM and then the French radio mentioned on the big XDA radio post (search google for "kaiser radio" and you should see it). However, I did the same and still have the 3G problem.

did you try using a shipped att rom and see if you still have this problem? if the problem goes away, then maybe its just a rom/radio mismatch problem. if it doesnt, then its more likely a hardware failure.

I'm in france, and since few days, i've the same problem, and i haven't change the radio. the phone is going for repair.
link to my post

XtreMe_G said:
did you try using a shipped att rom and see if you still have this problem? if the problem goes away, then maybe its just a rom/radio mismatch problem. if it doesnt, then its more likely a hardware failure.
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Yep -- I've tried going all the way back to the original ROM and radio. No go.

yeantbron said:
I'm in france, and since few days, i've the same problem, and i haven't change the radio. the phone is going for repair.
link to my post
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Can you keep us posted on what happens when it comes back? If it's really a hardware problem, many inquiring minds would love to know.
Bonne chance!

chaosniner said:
Are there two physical radios in the Tilt/TyTN II? I ask because I'm experiencing a strange problem that nobody else seems to have seen before. That, or nobody noticed my posts here:
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As mentioned in this thread, some shipments of the TyTN II have faulty hardware with broken 3G support.
No patch or driver update can fix this because it is a hardware problem. I experienced exactly the same issue with my first TyTN II and finally replaced it with a new device which works flawlessly out of the box.
I believe you should also better get your device replaced if you ever want to use 3G.

Can you keep us posted on what happens when it comes back? If it's really a hardware problem, many inquiring minds would love to know.
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Yes of course !

Well, 4 days to receive my phone !!
and they have changed :
_motherboard
_antenna
and MAJ rom and radio
Version de ROM : 1.56.163.8 ===> 1.56.163.9
Date de ROM : 09/04/07 ===> 10/15/07
Version de radio : 1.27.12.11 ===> 1.27.12.32
Version de protocole : 22.45.88.07H ===> not changed

are you saying you have gotten your phone back? is it working now?

3G Issues still - Help needed!

Hey all,
I've had my TyTn II for a while now and everything's been ok.
I recently upgraded my rom, from an old Duttys rom to a new one, since doing that my phone would not pick up signal at all - I couldn't phone and people couldn't phone me - it looked like my phone had reception but the second I went to call all the bars dropped off.
I posted on here. - It's the radio people assured me. I swapped radios. 1 million times.
Everytime, the 3g would work for a few hours and then the same problem.
I decided it was the rom. I installed a different duttys rom yesterday, and low and behold, the phone worked. Calls, tinterwebs the works.
Got home. Same old problem.
The one thing that links the roms is they're both Windows 6.1.
I'm using a MDA Vario 3 on T-Mobile UK.
Can anyone help me?

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No one had this before? Or any ideas? Seriously, if someone solves this I'll paypal them £20 as a thanks - it's getting on my nerves THAT much!

bazzlad said:
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No one had this before? Or any ideas? Seriously, if someone solves this I'll paypal them £20 as a thanks - it's getting on my nerves THAT much!
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If you want to stick with WM6.1 do as follows:
(i hope you've got HARDSPL...)
Run the TriColor mode and install radio same as i do (signature)
when it start to restarts hold the camera button so you can boot tricolor again without loading rom.
Install your favorite ROM,
When everything is configured, run Connection setup again and restart your phone. Test it.
If it still doesent give anything it could problem with some third party apps or your device itself.
You can try my configuration it works perfectly for me.
Cheers,
Chris

Giving that a go today - will chuck you over some $$$ wonga if it works! Thanks.

I hope that everything will work fine for you. Im always happy to help.
Cheers,
Chris

Tried - No joy - but thanks - anyone else got any ideas?

I have a similar issue. On my 3rd phone now (Orange) due to phone not connecting in 3g mode to make calls. Seems to be an issue where it fails to switch automatically between GSM and 3G, although it often shows there is a network connection (even though there isn't - really anoying).
However, by turning off hsdpa it finally seems (6 hours or so) to stay connected to the network and able to make calls. Can anyone else with the same problem try this?
I don't enough about hsdpa to understand why having it switched on should make a difference, unless it changes the functionality of the radio. Suggestions welcomed.

You may have a faulty handset.
Exactly the same problem as my friend experienced with his MDA Compact 2. I tried flashing new ROMS and it seemed to fix it but in time he'd begin to suffer from a disappearing signal bar and random dropouts before, during and after calls.
You could try turning your network to GSM only and see if that makes a difference. I'm on T-Mobile and I know that last week I couldn't use my phone in 3G mode for 36 hours or more owing to a network problem in my area, gsm worked fine though.

not convinced about the faulty handset although it is a possibility.
I am starting to think that with the hsdpa enabled it somehow changes the way data and voice calls are handled.
Really could do with some opinions on hsdpa and whether enabling it or disabling it changes the functionality of the phone or the interaction with the networks

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No one had this before? Or any ideas? Seriously, if someone solves this I'll paypal them £20 as a thanks - it's getting on my nerves THAT much!
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Just search a bit in the Kaiser forum, quite a few people (including me) have had similar problems. Radio hardware on some units is faulty and requires return to service center for repair.
The radio starts by not being able to send/receive calls/data on 3G while it still works on GSM, then later GSM will eventually fail too.

T-mobile have had problems with there 3G in the last week in northern Uk. I am still getting a few problems each day as you describe. I dont know, but I am assuming they are doing some repairs

kilrah said:
Just search a bit in the Kaiser forum, quite a few people (including me) have had similar problems. Radio hardware on some units is faulty and requires return to service center for repair.
The radio starts by not being able to send/receive calls/data on 3G while it still works on GSM, then later GSM will eventually fail too.
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Still, my experience is that there maybe faulty hardware out there, but by disabling hsdpa everything is fine. I'm currently making plenty of calls on 3g network, dowloading lots of data on 3g network. My previous problems were when the handset showed it was connected to the 3g network when it wasn't able to take or make calls or download data. Before, the only thing I had tried was manually selecting GSM in the connection settings.
I'm not saying that disabling hsdpa is a good thing or a solution, just that it might help some smart person to identify what is going wrong.
Any help out there?

Problem with radio...please help!

Ok to start off, I love flashing different roms and flash quite often. Not sure when this happened but after flashing one of the many roms, I noticed my radio version changed. Come to find out, I had no reception at all. Like the service was shut off. Tried flashing back to my original radio with no avail. Tried flashing various different roms, same problem. Even tried the latest shipped rom, still nothing. I've contacted T-Mobile, thinking maybe they terminated my service. They say ever thing is fine on there end. Tried searching this and can't come up with any thing. Anyone have any ideas. The rest of the phone works fine. Just no service. Thanks in advance.

Macropoutsis said:
Ok to start off, I love flashing different roms and flash quite often. Not sure when this happened but after flashing one of the many roms, I noticed my radio version changed. Come to find out, I had no reception at all. Like the service was shut off. Tried flashing back to my original radio with no avail. Tried flashing various different roms, same problem. Even tried the latest shipped rom, still nothing. I've contacted T-Mobile, thinking maybe they terminated my service. They say ever thing is fine on there end. Tried searching this and can't come up with any thing. Anyone have any ideas. The rest of the phone works fine. Just no service. Thanks in advance.
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Must be a setting change that occurred. First off, did you go through the connection wizard that typically appears in the beginning which set up your services to your cell phone provider?

band27 said:
Must be a setting change that occurred. First off, did you go through the connection wizard that typically appears in the beginning which set up your services to your cell phone provider?
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What radio are you currently using? Not to offend you, but your sure that your SPL matches rom your using?

Fallen Spartan said:
What radio are you currently using? Not to offend you, but your sure that your SPL matches rom your using?
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Hey Spartan,
No, I have no problems with my device. Yes, I did downgrade my radio, but everything works on my end...
As far as my signature goes, the bottom one is the config to my Diamond.

band27 said:
Hey Spartan,
No, I have no problems with my device. Yes, I did downgrade my radio, but everything works on my end...
As far as my signature goes, the bottom one is the config to my Diamond.
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LOL, actually my question was for Macropoutsis, quoted wrong person

Fallen Spartan said:
LOL, actually my question was for Macropoutsis, quoted wrong person
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Oh...ok, I was wondering what was going on, lol.
np...

I do go threw setup every time. As far as the SPL you mentioned, are you referring to the rilphone.dll I'm using? I'm using radio - 1.17.25.09. But I have tried just about all the radios with there rilphone.dll counter parts.

Macropoutsis said:
As far as the SPL you mentioned, are you referring to the rilphone.dll I'm using?
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Sorry for the noob question. My mind didn't even go there. I'm using SPL-1.56.OliNex.

Sorry about this, seems T-Mobile is to blame. After countless hours on the phone with them. They finally figured out that they "accidentally" canceled my service. Thanks everyone for your help. But there was a higher power here to blame...the brilliant minds of T-Mobile.

I got the same problem as you before. All I do is to switch off auto-3G. The problem is on 3G. BUT later I change ROM to Ongkolog Superlite version but still need to switch auto 3G off. Later after sometime I now can use with auto 3G. But times it still got problem with no service (auto 3G) if I move to new location outside from my area.
Good luck

Macropoutsis said:
Sorry about this, seems T-Mobile is to blame. After countless hours on the phone with them. They finally figured out that they "accidentally" canceled my service. Thanks everyone for your help. But there was a higher power here to blame...the brilliant minds of T-Mobile.
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Solution found (idiots T-Mobile), thread closed

data connection gone??

OK I've been round wifi for awhile now so not sure when this started but I'm n a roaming/edge network and I don't get ne data connection anymore and have no idea why please anyone help?? Running cm 5.0.5.3 now came from baked goods 1.1

Try toggling airplane mod on and off. This help me once.

jerrycycle said:
Try toggling airplane mod on and off. This help me once.
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Thanks for the tip but tried it ten times didn't work for me. Tried full wipe and really flashing but still don't get it

Same issue here. I notice if I force it to Edge then Edge works, but no 3G after 5.0.5.3 and i flashed the EPE54B radio with the apps. I'm thinking it's the radio but i can't find the previous image to test it out...
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Thanks for the tip but tried it ten times didn't work for me. Tried full wipe and really flashing but still don't get it
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I have the same issue after flash CM5.05.3 and radio EPE54B.
It can't use airplan mode to solve the problem, only reboot.
Does any sollution? Help !!

After trying a million things my sister tells me her mytocuh is having the same issue. I called T-Mobile and they don't know crap. It just now started working again for me almost a day later out of the blue.

Yea I still for nothing no edge or roams mg data just got calling network irk what it is so guess just deal with it. Closest city with 3g to me is 40mi lol

Sounds like a problems with T-Mobile and not the ROM. Make sure you have "Allot data connection while roaming" checked also or you'll never have data while roaming

martin0285 said:
Sounds like a problems with T-Mobile and not the ROM. Make sure you have "Allot data connection while roaming" checked also or you'll never have data while roaming
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yea bout the only reason left. yes i have allow data raoming on but get nothing. dont know if its radio kernel or cyan or what

[Q] Data connection

Hey there. I'm hoping that someone can help me out with this. A few days ago I updated to the latest rom from insertcoin. Since then I've had no data connection. Anything that requires Internet won't work. I've spent the day reflashing backups that I know are good but nothing worked. Tried different radios, checked apn settings and mobile data (which says I'm connected) without any success. In a moment of despair I reverted back to full stock hoping that it would solve the problem but again no joy.
At this stage I've run out of ideas which is why I've come grovelling to you guys. I couldn't find any solutions on Google, well nothing that helped. Everything looks like it's supposed to. Internet works over wifi but nothing works on mobile data. Any bright sparks out there with any suggestions ?
Cheers vinny

Vinny1967 said:
Hey there. I'm hoping that someone can help me out with this. A few days ago I updated to the latest rom from insertcoin. Since then I've had no data connection. Anything that requires Internet won't work. I've spent the day reflashing backups that I know are good but nothing worked. Tried different radios, checked apn settings and mobile data (which says I'm connected) without any success. In a moment of despair I reverted back to full stock hoping that it would solve the problem but again no joy.
At this stage I've run out of ideas which is why I've come grovelling to you guys. I couldn't find any solutions on Google, well nothing that helped. Everything looks like it's supposed to. Internet works over wifi but nothing works on mobile data. Any bright sparks out there with any suggestions ?
Cheers vinny
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if you RUU back to stock and still have the problem you hardware failure not much we can do for you
try reseating the sim card

clsA said:
if you RUU back to stock and still have the problem you hardware failure not much we can do for you
try reseating the sim card
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Thanks for the reply.I don't think it's the sim card cause I've tried it on another phone and it works fine.Hardware failure sounds more likely.I'm always careful when it comes to treating my phone.If I dropped it or something then I'd first think about a hardware problem,but nothing unusual has happened.Could flashing roms actually damage hardware ?

I one time did read about change the tel name in direct wifi to htc one that shold help someone wrote
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