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UK T-Mobile Update Support From Kitchen Experts

Ok , heres the plan!!
After attempting to cook my own ROM, I ended up with a dead device! However thaks to the member who uploaded the offical update I managed to get the thing back (which was nice as my wallet started to twitch! :lol: )
As T-Mobile UK are obviously behind on anything to do with this device I wondered if the Expert ROM builders could help us out by creating a ROM on the FTP site with all the fixes in and latest versions.
I know this may be a big ask, but there are enough users like me that just cant get their head around how the Kitchen works so a simple download and instructions if we have to tweak anything would be great.
Is this a plan or should I just go and stick my device in a cuboard for 6 months by which time T-mobile might of got their finger out of their BUM!

Anti-T-Mobile
With all due respect that would be playing with other peoples privat parts.
The Extended rom is given to us by our carriers.
Yes its late, yes its not complete and yes in some of them are below standard.
The forum gives us the tools to open this hidden folder.
Wiki explains how to flush it and how to cook it.
The kitchen gives you a look at what has gone through it and suggestes the best configuration for you know as the new base.
(based on what has been seen and only what it has seen).
In the kitchen you have all apps and patches that have been found for you to download and cook.
You need to add your own carrier customisation to that. Having done that you end up with a ERK version, your own Privat ERK version based on your tastes, flavor of your provider and what ever else you want to add due to the fact its COOL and neat.
So the short version is what you are asking for is all ready there on wiki.
The carrier customization files are on the ftp site.

MDAIII User
I know exactly what you are saying but after my experience of making a rom etc, Im sure other users are in the same boad of "lack of confidence" to risk killing their device.
What I am simply asking is for somebody to update the last T-Mobile UK update with the latest radio etc so that it is not customised just updated.
I notice you have a MDA III cooked rom so why could you not simply share your ROM. You could then be the farther of many happy children!

Anti-T-Mobile
I notice you have a MDA III cooked rom so why could you not simply share your ROM. You could then be the farther of many happy children!
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Regradless of the great opertunaty to be the father of many happy children and the option of you playing with my privat parts, which I might even like if I know what sex you are (wink) the answer is and will remain no.
Being chaty I will explain why. (again)
1) The info is in wiki, the cabs are in wiki, I have even added the text that you need for each cab on wiki.... bla bla ref to my other post.
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2) As per my flag I am in Switzerland and T-mobile is not.
3) As per my carrier I am with Sunrise (Which is not swiss for T-Mobile)
4) I have now idea what you want in that rom, thus we need to comunicate, this I am no good at ask my ex-wife.
5) My rom has no BT in it and that would explain why you find NO info about BT on wiki.
6) There are over 23'000 reg users on this site, a few have a BA.
If I do a T-mobile version I will be asked about a o2 version. then somebody is going to ask for a o2 Asian version and my thoughts of the asian version I have posted on wiki.
7) The tool that would allow me to create a ndf file out of those cab files has not been released.
8.) When it gets released you can do it yourself but you will first have to build the rom and edit the config text.
(Thus it does not matter if you have that tool or not)
The process is simple, read wiki
For the Ext rom:
unlock, flush, hardrest, unlock, test the cab, edit the config.txt, test the cab, edit the config text, repeat that until you have had enough. copy config,txt to device, insure you still have all cabs. lock the extended rom and do a hard reset.
For the radio, download, delete other ndf, run the upgrade, hard reset.
No offence intented.

Rom Updating Process
MDA III user.
My thanks once again for your detailed response on my last post in the other thread. I will keep everyone updated as to how I am getting on with T-Mobile UK. As you rightly suggested I have started reading Wiki thoroughly. Hopefully I will not be as easily bamboozled next time
On the matter of Wiki and the kitchen, I have to agree that there is a "chill" factor from a new user perspective. Please don't take this the wrong way - this is not to take away from all the hard work put into it by you and the other experts. This site has fast become a vital resource for me and I suspect nearly all HTC device users.
The chill factor is that personally speaking, I am not proficient/confident enough to undertake the updating process, withtout a little assistance first time around. It's a bit like reading the rules of the road but never driving if you see what I mean :? That said these are very complex devices.
I appreciate there may be legitimate concerns with providing self executing ROM updates and that not one size fits all devices. If you can do anything to simplify the process it would be greatly appreciated.
Apologies in advance for asking for the idiot's guide. You must groan with the number of "how do I update my ROM" posts.
Incidentally I went looking on wiki for the patches you mentioned and found the camera patch and a broadcom patch. I wasn't able to find the battery one. Could you direct me to it. Much appreciated J

Hi Jason
You are in luck I droped the link on my retaliation on your slik wording were for a moment I thought you were being nice to me a meant it. (hehe)
Battery patch is called battery upgrade and fund in patches of the 1.22 kitchen.
I will not write a idiots guide on the concept of the exteneded rom as idiots should not be playing with it as they could turn there device into a paper wheight as warned in the kitchen.
Please on offence to anybody that has had that bad luck its the concept that I am talking about.
I feel all the info is there in some section of the kitchen. and if you read the "cooking your first extneded rom with zip" you would have been told how to unlock, install a cab and edit the config.txt.
Find a area that has not been coverd and tell me, I will have a look at it, Else the wiki motto found in the getting started is:
If you don't like what you read, don't *****, fix it. this is your site.
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For me the Getting started is as close to a step by step idiots guide that you can get to, after doing all that is in there the user is able to search the forum. ugrade and/or change the language of his rom and perform a radio upgrade only. Some read like a road map and get the concept, others just follow it as if they were in the driving seat and get that upgrade, then move on to another rom.
The chill factor is good for us all it keeps our devices working as phones.

Which ROM recomend to my cingular 8125

Hi folks
Actually I have a cingular 8125 CID & SIM unlocked, it work with lokiwiz. I would like to know wich ROM update do you recomend me to put inside it and the procedure to do that. I´m a completly neebie.
My Wizard says
ROM version 1.8.11.1 WWE
ROM date 11/24/05
Radio Version 01.16.11
Protocol version 4.0.13.21
ExtROM 1.8.11.103
Flash chip type : M-Systems G3
Model No.: WIZA100
Thanks a lot
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jefferson_paredes said:
Hi folks
Actually I have a cingular 8125 CID & SIM unlocked, it work with lokiwiz. I would like to know wich ROM update do you recomend me to put inside it and the procedure to do that. I´m a completly neebie.
My Wizard says
ROM version 1.8.11.1 WWE
ROM date 11/24/05
Radio Version 01.16.11
Protocol version 4.0.13.21
ExtROM 1.8.11.103
Flash chip type : M-Systems G3
Model No.: WIZA100
Thanks a lot
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I recommend you stay with the stock rom. You don't want to take the time to read, you don't want to take the time to learn, and I quote:
jefferson_paredes said:
I´m a completly neebie.
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Thanks for the useless response.
Actually Im reading a lot of stuff about the AKU 2.3, learning about the experience about of version 2.17. but I think someone can give your opinion or advice about the diferent versions.
Thanks again for nothing.

jefferson_paredes said:
Thanks for the useless response.
Actually Im reading a lot of stuff about the AKU 2.3, learning about the experience about of version 2.17. but I think someone can give your opinion or advice about the diferent versions.
Thanks again for nothing.
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This forum is not for the faint of heart. It is halfway expected that you experiment and read up on other's experiences before asking for help. Most folks here did precisely that and have learned from experience and mistakes, that is why you'll receive that kind of response.
My recommendation to you is to start with the newly released ROM from Cingular and after you get your feet wet, you can move on to bigger and bolder moves. I used to have a "cooked" ROM but I have since moved onto the new stock rom without the extended rom and it has served me well.

jlczl said:
My recommendation to you is to start with the newly released ROM from Cingular and after you get your feet wet, you can move on to bigger and bolder moves. I used to have a "cooked" ROM but I have since moved onto the new stock rom without the extended rom and it has served me well.
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This is helpful
Thanks

I also had the original ROM. I upgraded to 2.17 first and then to 2.25 original ROM from Cingular. I have heard that some folks had problems downgrading so I have only gone up. Eventually summiter will have a modified version that covers new stuff.
I now have push email that I think is great. Go sign up on www.mail2web.com for mail2web live. And go to your email provider and forward but do not delete from the server you email to your mail2web.com exchange server. Then set up ActiveSync to the mail2web server settings. It is great. The email shows up on your phone sometimes before it shows up on your Outlook.

jefferson_paredes said:
Thanks for the useless response.
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Garbage in, garbage out. Sticks and stones mate.
Posting what you did, I gave you exactly what you should have expected. I'm not going to tell you to go ahead, void your warranty, and you some how brick your device by flashing it wrong or using the wrong rom, Summiter's projects or not.
I'm merely stating that with the lack of information you provided, and the type of post you made (which as been done many times), you should have thought a little harder about what you're getting into.
I personally don't want to be responsible for you flashing your device, and neither does the author of the custom rom you may choose. My statement of "stick with the stock rom" also applies to recommended STOCK upgrades, such as the one found here:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/software_downloads_8125.htm
I still don't recommend you electing to flash a custom rom until you are more confident about the possibility of dumping $700 worth of phone as a paper weight. There is always the chance you will brick your device. If you do it with a stock rom, then the provider's warranty kicks in and they have to take the dive, not you or your pocket book.
So dear sir, for the lame attempt at shoving my post right back in my face, it was actually quite helpful if you bothered, once again, to read, read, and read some more. I'm not doing this to flame you, I'm not doing this to be a tard or a ****... but I am taking the voice of many users here who heed caution to you, because using a customized rom is a serious matter, and should be taken into consideration when a $700 device may be bricked.
Just trying to cautiously make you aware of the circumstances. My recommendation: stick with stock - upgrades are a part of stock roms and don't void your warranty (as long as they don't investigate the SuperCID unlocking you did, you're all gravy).
Cheers! and best of luck on your ROM hunt.

Once again, another seasoned poster on this board comes across as a total A-hole to someone brand new here,
Maybe in your circles this is the way you and your buddies interact. And for some who have been here a while they may learn to understand your inflections.
But YOU should realize that this new poster needs to get oriented to this board and HELP point him in the right direction. THAT is YOUR responsibility as an old timer here. And yes you WERE flaming him on the initial response.
As Charles Barkley said " I ain't no role model" well get used to it. YOU ARE A ROLE MODEL as well as everyone else here who knows the ins and outs. And your

jschaff said:
Once again, another seasoned poster on this board comes across as a total A-hole to someone brand new here,
Maybe in your circles this is the way you and your buddies interact. And for some who have been here a while they may learn to understand your inflections.
But YOU should realize that this new poster needs to get oriented to this board and HELP point him in the right direction. THAT is YOUR responsibility as an old timer here. And yes you WERE flaming him on the initial response.
As Charles Barkley said " I ain't no role model" well get used to it. YOU ARE A ROLE MODEL as well as everyone else here who knows the ins and outs. And your
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I agree 100% with your post. the post made by mengesb was useless and unnecessary.

We have no responsibilities here to instruct you ...
If you don't take the time to research, then that's your decision. If you don't like a response, that's your call.
We try to help all who show a desire to learn. Be careful of who you offend when you ***** about an "Old Timer" that's responding to a Posting that has very little information regarding the knowledge of the Poster.
Me personally, I'm tired of *****ing.. I'm tired of folks like you. I get annoyed at responding to the same questions because no one can read back a few posts.
If we displease you... maybe look for help somewhere else.
I'm noticing that fewer and fewer of the "old timer's" are responding... wonder why?
Steven
chow

To answer the question, the best rom IMHO currently is Summiter's multi-installer AKU2.3 package. He's fixed many of the initial gotcha's and the result is the best radio/AKU combination for the 8125. The only issue is a pesky Times New Roman font that occasionally crops up.
Once SIM & CID unlocked, you'll have no pblms installing this one with your v3 chipset.

Dr Puttingham said:
We have no responsibilities here to instruct you ...
If you don't take the time to research, then that's your decision. If you don't like a response, that's your call.
We try to help all who show a desire to learn.
Me personally, I'm tired of *****ing.. I'm tired of folks like you. I get annoyed at responding to the same questions because no one can read back a few posts.
I'm noticing that fewer and fewer of the "old timer's" are responding... wonder why?
Steven
chow
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I can understand where you're coming from. I'm pretty "new" to these forums, as well -- actually, though . . . NOT!! I "lurked" for a LONG time before I ever started posting and read every thread I could find about upgrading, tweaking, hacking, etc., etc.
I'm coming from a Carrier's customer forum where I feel about THAT forum the same way the "old-timers" here feel about noobs posting questions. It seems like every 4 - 6 weeks, there's an influx of noobs, and they all keep asking the same questions over and over again, without taking the time to use the site's search feature, and we "old-timers" get tired of answering the same questions over and over again, and get extremely frustrated that posters WON'T take the time to do a search and read and apply before posting. AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!! I mean, the answers to 75% of the questions that are asked are right in the User's Manual, for Pete's Sake!!
So, I'm now spending more of my time here reading, researching, applying and THEN asking, if need be. Much more productive information over here, anyway. So, I can see BOTH SIDES of this coin -- both as a relative noob here and as a seasoned veteran of the other forum.
Personally, though, the main reason I don't post more often than I do is that I feel pretty much intimidated with all of the knowledge and the members WITH that knowledge on this forum. But, I will also be quick to say that when I had a problem with a tweak, or a hack that I couldn't seem to overcome, there have been those who have bent over backwards for me to help when I would PM them about it, and THAT was very much appreciated. The ones who have gone that "extra mile" have never in any way made me feel inferior to them when it comes to developmental issues I've inquired about.
From lurking around on here, I've turned into a virtual SPONGE, trying to soak it all in and learn all there is to learn. . . so, bear with me if I should happen to be the one asking a question -- ok??

Lurking is good. The best way to learn here is by lurking and reading, and not just reading selected postings for a day or two. So many questions have already been asked and just need to be found. These forums move quickly and sometimes one needs to go back a few pages to find something and the search COULD be better, but that's the way it is.
I was referring to those that call mengesb names, etc because he didn't give them the answer that they wanted. Actually I thought that he put more time and understanding into answering the OP than I might have, given the information presented. And no, he didn't flame the author.
And I, for one, might not go all out to help someone that responds in such a manner should they need assistance in the future. I mean, who wants to offer advise and risk being called an A-Hole? Not me, that's for sure!
That's just my opinion.
Steven

As someone relatively new to this forum, I've tried to take the same tack as newbie2 and lurk as much as I can. However, even the most comprehensive community cannot answer any and all questions that someone may have. The key here is to be able to differentiate between valid questions asked by someone who's new, and idiotic questions asked by someone who doesn't care to do some research.
That being said, even with about a week’s worth of research I have yet to find a definitive answer as to which custom ROM is the best, and, because we are a community of volunteers, a lot of documentation that would exist for a commercial product is missing. Now that's to be expected, and I don't fault the ROM developer for building what is essentially, something for him, that he shares with the community. However, given that this documentation either doesn't exist or is distinctly lacking, I think the community that the ROM is shared with could be a bit more forthcoming with information, either by making it available in a wiki or in these forums. Keyword searching to try to find the best extended ROM gives a whole bunch of people asking which one is best, as well as the two or three large threads with either summiter's ROM or MrClean's.
Now I know that experimenting can be the best way to find out the information that I seek, but when it's possible to brick a $400 piece of electronics simply by experimenting, one has to be as prudent and careful as possible. That's a frightening proposition and it puts a lot of newbies in a difficult position.
So to conclude this rather verbose post, the best thing that can be done is for the older and more experienced posters to simply respond with a bit of information about the topic being asked, and then if there is a more specific question, to explain to the poster that they can search for this info. This gives newer people that do search and do research the benefit of information shared from more experienced posters without hopefully clogging up the forum with tons of the same question.

Words of caution - and some help
By far, as many of the thread lurkers here can say, the roms submitted by Summiter are probably the better quality roms. But, in light of things, you have a few options:
Mr. Clean ROMs
Summiter's ROMs
Mobiz ROMs
these are the three that I've seen around these parts. Mr. Clean roms are a derrivitive of Summiter's projects, which basically clean out the carrier customization. If you don't like carrier customizations, then this rom would be the best for you.
For those of us who like to use carrier customizations, we usually elect to use Summiter's roms. They typically are very stable, fast, and come already with the generally pre-defined or commonly desired hacks located in the wiki.
As for the Mobiz ROMs, I cannot say one thing or another. I've only recently seen talk about them in the past month or so, and I'm not going to speak of a product I don't have personal experience from.
I don't want to come off complete as a jack ass, but you also do understand where I'm coming from - if my recommendation nukes your device, who's the first person you're going to flame? Me or the Author of that ROM. I've been experimenting with my own ROM customizations myself, and let me tell you, even I haven't dared flash one of my own creations because numerous people here have nuked their devices doing that very thing! I... for now... like many other people await for a seasoned ROM cooking professional to work on those waffles until the ROM feels right - Summiter.
What I will always recommend a new comer is to stick with a stock rom, and do as many minor adjustments to their device as possible just to simply make it faster. If Summiter would post is SummSumm.cab file, that would be perfect for you honestly! You wouldn't void your warranty, and that cab has a lot of good registry hacks to make your device nice and speedy.
When you're ready, and know the concequences, there will be people here to help you attempt to save your device if it does get in trouble. Here's a quick note in that event:
If for some reason your flash fails, or gets interrupted (either by you unplugging the USB cable because you think its hanging; or the dreaded BSOD - blue screen of death), when your device reboots, hold down the camera key. This should load you into the bootloader if its not completely nuked. If you get a tri-color (RGB) screen with/without some white and a 'USB' marking above the left soft key, then you're still good. Resume the updater and don't interupt it.
I'm sure this is a more polite way of giving you the information you seek - and helps you to being well on your way to the club of warranty voided 8125's like many of us here pay our memberships to. I always want to have the voice of this, "Flashing your device can brick your $400-650 investiment - you have been warned."
I'd also recommend searching posts made by the following: machinagod, summiter, Dr Puttingham, and kyphur.

The warranty warning is a valid issue. And the latest ROM release by Cingular is an OK ROM. In your position I'd probably upgrade to that official version and install one of the various reg tweaks cabs available here. I've been using Molski's speed tweaks contribution and notice a marked improvement when using any of the ROMs'.
I personally go back and forth between sumitter's latest, the PDA Mobiz (cuz I like some of the add-ins) and a test ROM that faria made special for me.
If you decide to chance your warranty that's your decision. Actually very few folks that have painstaking followed the procedure have bricked their phones but there's always that chance. I made a conscious decision at the beginning of the year when I got my Wizard that .. first, I had to have direct push and second, if I DID brick my phone I'd consider it a $300 paperweight and blame no one but myself.
I've flashed my phone at least a dozen times I'm sure, in addition to maybe 10 or so of my clients. Luckily I've never bricked a phone yet but a lot of that isn't luck. If you go this route and decide to use an unofficial ROM you must CID and SIM unlock. There are those that say different but sumitter, faria and other custom ROM builders say "do", up to you.
Anything we can help you with, ask.
Steven
chow

I have a TMo MDA and am a six-week-old noob, but learning fast, having spent probably 1000 hours reading posts from here and HoFo. I've decided to keep the stock ROM, at least for the time being, for the reasons cited in previous replies here. Also, in almost every case with the custom ROM's there is a minority that have problems, either small or big, and that has led me away from the adventure of ROM burning. Plus, my stock ROM works fine for me and I'm only having one problem that may be solved by now. It has no major quirks, has enough memory remaining, and rarely crashes.
What bothers me about the custom ROM's is the undercetainty of some of the steps. Do I need Lokowiz and if so which version? Some say you must use the older 2a under some circumstances. With at least one ROM upgrade you can upgrade if you have ROM "X," but if you have "Y" you must downgrade to "Z" first and then upgrade. I entertained the possibility of just doing a hard-reset, then omit the TMo extended ROM, but nowhere could I find info on what I'm missing by eliminating it. Will the phone function at 100% without it? Can I selectively run the CAB's, and if so who makes a list of what is in each CAB? Too many questions for which I see no answers, or foggy ones. Someone needs to write a comprehensive FAQ on these topics.
I did do the slit-antenna mod, which did help a bit, and that was only one day into my MDA ownership. That was a big jump and didn't seem like a risky move like the fingers-crossed, heart-pumping, adrenaline rush of flashing your ROM. I also have installed apps and tweaks that have made the MDA a pleasant experience so far.
My advice would be to play with your new phone for a while and ask yourself, "Am I happy with the way this works," then read about other ROMs available and ask yourself another question: "Will this help enhance my PDA-phone experience in any meaningful way, or do I just like the rush of playing in the street?" Then decide if the improvements, if any, are worth the risks. So far for me they are not...but who knows what will happen tomorrow.

I feel like a commercial here, but I think for newbies (as me) the mobiz ROM has a the usefull stuff, it has all tweaks, programs etc.
I still like it and keep on using it.

fastest ROM?

which ROM is the fastest in speed (for O2 minis)?
thanks 4 reading!
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2.67.12 is the fastest by far
thanks for reading
i'm joking ofcourse
if you actually spent the time to READ the forum YOURSELF you'd know the answer yourself already....dont be lazy and expect the work be done for you...
rom speed is very subjective anyways as there is no baseline for the standard configurations....some have registry tweaks some dont so it's comparing apples to oranges

chudy said:
2.67.12 is the fastest by far
thanks for reading
i'm joking ofcourse
if you actually spent the time to READ the forum YOURSELF you'd know the answer yourself already....dont be lazy and expect the work be done for you...
rom speed is very subjective anyways as there is no baseline for the standard configurations....some have registry tweaks some dont so it's comparing apples to oranges
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You know people come here for advice NOT sarcasm!
I have been a forum memebr form some time and I knwo that when I originally came here I also did not know what was best for my phone.
It was only through the help of curteous members that I managed to understand what was going on.
Save your sarcasm for yourself! :twisted:

besides my beta rom i would vote for molski's 2.26.. its what i based mine off of... its the fastest i have come in contact with

oooo, looks like i got you mad paul...tough :roll:
maybe if you were such a helpful soul you should've concentrated on the original poster's question instead of thread crapping. I was merely suggesting he/she get familiar with the forum as it's a vast wealth of information.
if bachikho would have come in with an educated question which showed some kind of effort i'd be more than happy to help but the OP was obviously meant as an easy way out...or so i see it and i'm entitled to my opinion.
as far as rom's go, bachikho, your o2 mini s is a variant of the htc wizard and as things stand right now i'd try reading about the aku2.3 roms that are floating around. they seem to be the fastest and the most stable at the moment. Molski's and mrclean are my favs. I'm currently running the aku 3.2 rom and i'd stay away from it for now.

I agree with chudy, searching and reading is best. If everyone searched and read the forums, we wouldn't have these same questions being asked over and over. I've CID unlocked, SIM unlocked, registry tweaked, changed many different ROMs on my various Wizard (And Universal) devices I've owned this year w/o asking a single question because everything I needed was found using the search feature, simple as that.
Back on topic; I've tried several ROMs, including some of Summiter's cooked ROMs and the fastest one I've tried is the Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 ROM. I haven't tried some of the latest ones; still enjoying Mr. Clean too much

I disagree with Chudy. There are a myriad of posts and pages to read about the various ROMs and it's not easy, maybe even possible, to work out (without trying them) which ROM might be the fastest from all the information given.
Paul makes a valid point, there is no need to be sarcastic. If you didn't like the question bachikho asked, you could have easily ignored it instead of being so pompus.
Shogunmark's answer was succinct and to the point, as was the last paragraph of DavidT's. Those are the types of answer that we are after.

achick, thank you for the very necessary and beautifully eloquent rebuttal to my reply to the OP. I almost had to whip out a dictionary You adding your two cents to the off-topic thread crapping is appreciated by everyone I'm sure.
in this open forum, everyone is fee to express their opinions. since we're expressing our feelings and emotions cause thats what we should expect from a technical forum, i do warmly thank you again for pointing out the obvious and putting it in one succinct post for us to digest along with your affectionate commentary, all of which has everything to do with ROMs. Way to go, keeping your eyes on the ball! Takes me back to my college psychology class and the pointless discussion sessions (sorry i come from an engineering background)...
now, lets get back on track...since the OP stemmed from the need for speed in a ROM it sure would be nice to establish some kind of baseline testing methodology. Is anyone familiar with any pocket pc benchmark applications? I'm wondering if there is something analogous to 3dmark or Sandra In the Pocket PC world.
Has anyone tried any of the tools listed in the link below?
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Developer-Tools/Benchmarks/
i think i'll try some of them if there is no de-facto standard already in use and compare my aku2.3 and aku3.2 roms....i'll be back to report back with some results later on (and i promise to stay on-topic )

chudy,
did not mean to rain on your parade. Im just used to all the people on this forum to be very helpful and attentive.
I see that you have in fact been just that after your replies..
Kudos to you!
:lol:
I am going to try the rom posted by risidoro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61997
I also am in dire need to update my phone ROM. I reading everything form Xelecin not cooking any more roms, I think the one above seems to fit the need nicely since it is based off of a Tmobile Rom.
Cheers all.

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I disagree with Chudy. There are a myriad of posts and pages to read about the various ROMs and it's not easy, maybe even possible, to work out (without trying them) which ROM might be the fastest from all the information given.
Paul makes a valid point, there is no need to be sarcastic. If you didn't like the question bachikho asked, you could have easily ignored it instead of being so pompus.
Shogunmark's answer was succinct and to the point, as was the last paragraph of DavidT's. Those are the types of answer that we are after.
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Thanks achick
quick and to the point is all you need... and i do feel that some n00bs feel the need to post the same questions over and over cause either A. they get flamed for answering the same question and never really get a good answer.. and B. because so many n00bs ask the same questions it clutters up the board for doing searches.. its kinda like [email protected] if you do, [email protected] if you dont...
i would also like to mention that there are so many roms on the ftp that finding the one that best works for you is merely trial and error, i cant even count how many different roms i tried before i found one that worked great.. then i grew a set of [email protected] and cooked my own

You could do what I do. . . just go to the rom posts, in the forum, with the many trailing pages of replies. lol That way, you know what problems to expect.

Mi|enko said:
You could do what I do. . . just go to the rom posts, in the forum, with the many trailing pages of replies. lol That way, you know what problems to expect.
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lol.. that doesnt always indicate problems.. in the case of my beta, there hasnt really been any problems, most of it is just extra freeware apps people want.. or little extra goodies that people want for improvement, but nothing wrong with the actual rom itself.. judging by the many posts on mine and the comments of others it seems to be a very fast and stable rom

I think the T-Mobile AKU 2.5 is the fastest ... That's what I noticed when working with it ...

Fast is a relative thing. Some are faster than others but unstable. Others are not quite as fast but more stable. The stock T-mobile 2.26 is pretty fast and rock solid. That AKU 3.x is supposively very fast and, judging by the now almost useless thread, very unstable. So pick your poison. I use the stock T-Mobile 2.26 rom because this is my phone, not an expensive toy waiting to be turned into a paperweight, and what good is fast when it resets on it's own every 10 minutes?

I have been using the risidoro ROM for several days now and I really like it.
has a ton of great features built into the ROM that I normally would have to install myself.
I have tweaked a few things and I have to say that my phone boots much faster now and also memory use is MUCH better than before due to his registry tweaks to offload mem usage to the SD card.
I recommend it! :lol:

I have also been using the risidoro custom rom, and it does marvles for me. And he is always checking the thread to help a fellow noob out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61997[/list]

i'm a newb

so, i dont know how yall here deal with general newbs to the site, but with a few other forums that i frequent(automotive related forums) they encourage the new members to make an intro post in the off topic.
so here i am. my name is Nick, i have an HTC wizard in the form of a cingular 8125, and i honestly do not plan to post much. only read and learn, and ask when i cant find clear info from the search, or simply do not understand something. not trying to pride myself, but i do consider myself somewhat tech savy, yet the information i have allready found/read here(i've been reading through topics for weeks now, through the shopping stage for a new phone, to how to's about upgrading and such for the said phone) has been top notch. very in depth, yet easily understandable. kudos to you all.

Welcome to the forum!
Let me reassure you that you are off to a great start here!
I think in fact you can stop referring to your self as noob since you already poses two qualities which will keep you from getting flamed on this forum:
1) You know exactly what phone you own.
2) (And this is a most important) You know to read and search before asking.
This used to be a small technical forum a few years back (before even I joined) so when people see a question like "Urgent! I need WM 6 now!" or "
What phone did I by, it has a green background?" (yes we do get questions exactly like this) some of the users tend to get a little testy.
But never be discouraged from posting! Most of the people here are nice and even if your question has been asked and answered before, they will give you an answer or at least a link to the relevant thread.
One final suggestion: I see you do not have a signature yet. As you probably seen already many of us have exact model and ROM version of our phones in the signature. This is not just to brag about who got WM 6 or the latest AKU. When specific questions arise it saves us detailing whet we have in each post.
Well, enjoy your new phone!

As the guy said above youve pretty much ensured you have the right attitude dude
To add i would recommend filling out which network you use and what country you are in, they are in the profile options menu.
Welcome to xda-devs!

As levenum and mrvanx said you are on a good way. I strongly advise you to use a signature with details concerning your device and its setup as levenum said. Some people even provide list of software they use in there. It makes troubleshooting of your problems easier. Have a fun with your device and welcome!

Thanks guys and gals.
so, after reading through numerous threads and topics, i decided to give flashing my device a try. i printed off the instructions from a few topics, and downloaded all the files beforehand so i wouldn't have to worry about opening and closing Firefox in between steps to check instructions. sat down, and within an hour and a half my phone went from the Cingular 2.25 IPL/SPL 2.25.11 GSM and the 2.25.11.1 OS to SIM and CID unlocked running the T-mobile 2.26, with the 2.47.11 radio, and the Xplore 1.1 OS. was no hastle at all, really. followed the prompts, and played halo till i heard the phone beep at the windows mobile setup screen. figured it was best as then i wouldn't panic if it hung up at a certain percentage for a few minutes while installing anything.
my phone feels like an entirely different animal, and i like it very much!
the information that i found and followed led me to work on my device with the confidence that i would not brick this thing. i figured if i followed the directions of those who have done it numerous times before, i'd be hard pressed to be led awry. the _ONLY_ part of the whole process that i felt lost about what choosing which WM6 rom to put on it. seems like that's just a bit of personal trial and opinion though. from looking at the device setups in many of the senior member's sigs, i found xplore to be a popular choice, so yet again. do as the masters do.
thanks again for all of your expertise and contributions to this site. this site is directly responsible for turning my great new phone into even more of a fun/exciting/productive tool in my life.

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Thanks guys and gals.
so, after reading through numerous threads and topics, i decided to give flashing my device a try. i printed off the instructions from a few topics, and downloaded all the files beforehand so i wouldn't have to worry about opening and closing Firefox in between steps to check instructions. sat down, and within an hour and a half my phone went from the Cingular 2.25 IPL/SPL 2.25.11 GSM and the 2.25.11.1 OS to SIM and CID unlocked running the T-mobile 2.26, with the 2.47.11 radio, and the Xplore 1.1 OS. was no hastle at all, really. followed the prompts, and played halo till i heard the phone beep at the windows mobile setup screen. figured it was best as then i wouldn't panic if it hung up at a certain percentage for a few minutes while installing anything.
my phone feels like an entirely different animal, and i like it very much!
the information that i found and followed led me to work on my device with the confidence that i would not brick this thing. i figured if i followed the directions of those who have done it numerous times before, i'd be hard pressed to be led awry. the _ONLY_ part of the whole process that i felt lost about what choosing which WM6 rom to put on it. seems like that's just a bit of personal trial and opinion though. from looking at the device setups in many of the senior member's sigs, i found xplore to be a popular choice, so yet again. do as the masters do.
thanks again for all of your expertise and contributions to this site. this site is directly responsible for turning my great new phone into even more of a fun/exciting/productive tool in my life.
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Choosing right version of the ROM for the device is something that is entirely dependant on individual needs of the user. Most people advise to read their corresponding threads to get as much info about theose ROMs as possible. You can see what problems others had as well as solutions/fixes for these. There are many peple still asking - what is the best ROM? They should ask themselves: What do I need? first.
And in case of WM6 as of yet most available ROMs are betaversions (at least for Hermes) and it is therefore probable that some functionality will be missing/buggy. People tend to ignore that when making decisions. That especially applies to cooked ROMs that may omit certain functionality on purpose.
The moral is: if you think (sentient beings are welcome there) and know what you want/need you are on good way to enjoy your stay here and not harm your device.

Welcome aboard Min.
As the others have mentioned. You are on a great start. Myself spent probably 2 weeks of solid reading on here before I even posted a single question. Cause of this I was able to get a fast response and not flammed.

mim37204 you have started right and I wish you the best of luck with your 8125. Welcome to xda-developers!!! If I can ever help just PM me.

Pandas said:
Guys, these are the most interesting:
counter strike
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The site that this guy has posted on this site and another has a virus or something attached to it, My virus scanner is going bezerk!
Other site is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303360
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Newbie - HTC HD ROM advice?

Recently got myself a HD (in the UK on Orange), works fine, it's as it came out of the box.....
Would I benifit by upgrading the software/ROM on the device, there seems to be alot of info on this site about this subject but im new to this device and rather confused by it all at the moment.
Does upgrading the ROM improve the use of the phone and if so could anyone recommend a version to upgrade too and if possible point me in the direction of info on how to go about upgrading etc.
I know this is probably covered a lot on here, there are lots of threads regarding ROM's etc but they all seem to be people who already know what they are doing??
Any help much appreciated

stiscooby said:
Recently got myself a HD (in the UK on Orange), works fine, it's as it came out of the box.....
Would I benifit by upgrading the software/ROM on the device, there seems to be alot of info on this site about this subject but im new to this device and rather confused by it all at the moment.
Does upgrading the ROM improve the use of the phone and if so could anyone recommend a version to upgrade too and if possible point me in the direction of info on how to go about upgrading etc.
I know this is probably covered a lot on here, there are lots of threads regarding ROM's etc but they all seem to be people who already know what they are doing??
Any help much appreciated
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Ahhh, yes, there is a lot of info here... I can't believe I am doing this, but I am bored stiff at work, so, rather than just sending you off to read up on the wiki, I will try to answer your question, or at least preface my statement that you should go and read up on the wiki
An upgraded version of an official ROM is intended to improve upon the performance (i.e., speed and stability) previous versions and incorporate new technology/features, etc. Sometimes upgraded official ROMs are quite an improvement over earlier version. However, a good cooked ROM (a custom ROM made by a developer on this site, for instance) makes a HUGE difference for Windows Mobile devices. These ROMS generally are mush faster, more stable, more innovative and more user friendly than shipped ROMs. In fact, there usually is no comparison between an official ROM and a good cooked ROM, IMHO.
Beware though, flashing cooked ROMs is also addictive, and you may find yourself flashing a new ROM onto your device way too often (seriously).
In terms of pointing you to where you can upgrade and how to do it, unfortunately, you cannot upgrade to a cooked ROM on the HD yet, as something called "Hard SPL," which allows you to safely (i.e., without ruining your device) flash non-official ROMs onto your device, has not been released yet. You apparently can change official ROMs, but as you are new, I would suggest you wait on that. If you want to take a look anyway, see the last several posts on the stickied "Hard SPL...Placeholder" thread above (this thread will also alert you on the status of Hard SPL).
Until Hard SPL comes out, you can take a look at the Wiki pages (link is in brown bar near top of screen) for previous HTC phones (Diamond, Kaiser, polaris, etc.), as there are quite a few "Upgrading Guides for Beginners" that explain what Hard SPL and all of the other confusing stuff in these posts means. Here is an example for the Diamond: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
Anyway, I hope this was at least somewhat helpful and I hope you stay interested and start flashing when Hard SPL and some cooked ROMs become available.
Good luck!

I am so glad someone asked this.
sk806, really useful info there. You should add it to the Wiki

Sk806 - Thank you very much for your detailed explanation!
Glad you posted otherwise I might have been trying to find out how to flash/upgrade my ROM only to find out this is not possible yet!

Always nice to see someone sharing their experience for the newbies

thanks for the guide.... will make sure to stay update on whats going on as a lot of info is availablle and dont want to get lost n do some crazy...
10x

thanks all so for the guide

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thanks all so for the guide
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No problem. Although I am sure it is clear from the guide itself, just want to be sure that I state that this guide was prepared by Tnyynt (thanks!), not me.