A call to action for all U.S. T-Mobile Wing users. - Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading

Hello fellow Wing users. I'm willing to bet that if you're reading this you're probably a little frustrated with your phone's lack of performance. The reason why I'm starting this post is to try and gather in one central location all the improvements that we as local community would like to see happend for the Wing. The idea is for you to complete this sentence:
"The T-Mobile Wing would be a better phone if..."
I have already contacted T-Mobile's customer service and gave them my suggestions,but I thought it might be a good idea to see what other users are looking for/need. Any idea is a valid idea, and after a month I'll draft a letter and we can all send it to customer service. And if we see more things that need to be added we can send it monthly with new updates. Sound good?
So this is what we have so far:
1. [email protected]
2. Official ROM
3. non-Buggy My Favs Program
4. Screen Lock w/Button Lock even when an incoming call comes in

I really love my wing.
The T-Mobile Wing would be a better pda if it had 3G, so i don't have to buy a new phone when t-mo's 3G networks comes out.

I'd love my wing as well. The only thing I can think of that I'd love to see is UMA support for [email protected] Not really a big issue for me, as I have no signal issues at home, but that's about it.

How bout a list of all the suggestions in the first post. The main thing I'm waiting for is a release of the official rom to fall back on.

I'm having email issues. My wife and I can not get the send/receive function to work with my home email accounts (Cox Communications). I'm using the Wing and she's on the Dash, both using WM6. We didn't have this problem with WM5 so what's the deal?
This phone would be better if I could get an answer from Tech support why I'm having this problem.

Updated rom with less memory leaks.
Hotspot @ Home
That's all I can imagine for right now. Wing's a pretty all-in-one device.
For developers:
Would love TOUCHFLO to be implemented into a rom.
Rom's with freed up memory
Less customization
Faster and more stable.

suggestions
for now, I guess these will be the 2 main things
1. A small-sized rom, with all t-mobile apps as optional installs
2. An actual RUU rom file for us all upgraders...

NNagendran said:
for now, I guess these will be the 2 main things
1. A small-sized rom, with all t-mobile apps as optional installs
2. An actual RUU rom file for us all upgraders...
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Like a T-Mobile Kitchen? That would be cool

Here here! I totally agree.
Here here! I totally agree.
Not sure if these are really T-Mobile's issues or WM6 issues or HTC issues, but ...
Alarms are Unreliable
...If I set an alarm, I can NOT be confident that it will sound. The WM6 alarms worked fine the first time I set it active. A day alter I changed the alarm time and alarm sound, and the alarm hasn't worked correctly since. I eventually installed a 3rd party alarm clock, and deactivated the WM6 alarms. The 3rd party one worked OK for a week, then it wouldn't work either! It only seems to work when the phone is On, and set to stay on (plugged in). If the phone goes into suspend mode over night, the alarm doesn't seem to play the alarm sound. It does wake up the device, and does flash the light, but no sound!
Volume Up/Down Buttons:
...Seems like the hardware volume buttons (which are my first choice for volume control) do not adjust volume for most 3rd party applications. In fact every 3rd party app that I've installed starts with sound blaring, and no WM6 volume control seems to control the volume. Only after entering the game, going to the game settings, and editing the game volume controls (if there are any!) can I change the volume. Why doesn't the hardware volume control actually control the speaker volume?
Listen to Music & Vibrate Mode:
...Seems like I can't set my phone to vibrate (through the quick ring/vibrate phone mode switching tool) and have volume for my music. When I set it to vibrate, the volume is set to 0. When I trun the volume up for my music, the ringer switches from vibrate to ring.
NOTE: I really wonder if all these sound issues are related ... ? It seems to me that there are a variety of volume settings, and a variety of controls to adjust these volume settings. Ringer volume, in call volume, speaker volume. , mute/vibrate mode. There is the hardware button, there is a software volume slider, many apps have an additional volume sliders. It seems like some *other* internal volume setting is getting adjusted (other than the main volume controls) and all programs (not the phone or ringer) are affected by this.
Locked Screen with Call:
...With the screen lock enabled, and the phone in suspended mode, an incoming call wakes up the phone and activates the two phone buttons. Every time the incoming call is answered as I am pulling the phone from the phone case ... !! This really sucks because I don't want to have to answer every call. If I don't remove the phone from the case, the calls are still answered just by the pressure of the case on those buttons.
Music Player Library:
...The Windows Media player Library automatically loads up all sorts of ringtones and WM6 sound files (that are not in My Music or My Videos folders)?? There is seemingly no settings to prevent this? manually removing them asks you to really delete the file (dangerous), and has to be repeated every time you reload the Library? I ended up using a new media player that has more settings and isn't so stupid.
User Modes: (not an issue, but a desired feature)
...I have found the need for 'usage modes' for the phone. I mean things like 'phone mode', 'internet mode', 'music/movie player mode'. Somethng that would enable the appropriate device settings to facilitate using some program without the screen turning off, or auto-suspending.
...I know you can manually go through all your settings and enable/disable the auto-suspend, change the backlight, change the volume/ring type, etc. in order to use the Wing as an MP3 player, phone, or news reader ... but different usage modes would seemingly be a *must have* for anyone who really uses these different functionalities one after the next.
... for example, as an MP3 player I want the device to stay on (no auto-suspend), the back light off after 30 sec, and vibrate only ringer, and music volume adjustable (only makes sense). BUT if I get an incoming call, I don't want the backlight shutting off after 30 seconds anymore! OR if I close the MP3 player and want to read my email or RSS news feeds, then I want the ringer back on, the device to auto-suspend after 5 minutes, and the backlight to stay on that long too.
...It is time consuming to be constantly swapping settings back and forth, trying to remember what needs to be changed. I feel like I spend more time tinkering with settings then actually getting good use out of the Wing. Sometimes I only have 5 minutes to read news or play a quick Sudoku game, and don't want half that time wasted futzing with settings.
...Maybe there is 3rd party software for this, but I haven't found any as of yet.

Business Contact Manager Pocket PC / Contacts Button on TMobile Wing
Thanks for this thread. I think we should also post replies when members post questions about their needs....
I like my Wing and I am trying to keep it clean - minimal software. Having said that there are some things I would like to remove / change....
I have installed business contact manager pocket pc - which sync's with my business contacts in Outlook. The problem I have is that one of the Today screen soft button (just above the ok button) points to "contacts" and not business contacts. I am wondering if anybody knows how to get this button to point to the business contacts. I do not want to install new software - I think this is a registry edit type fix. Any help will be appreciated.
I would also like to see a new forum category for all posts regarding Wing and/or WM6 professional. A lot of the threads deal with older OS's and I am concerned to install software written for WM5 and older. Also you find WM6 posts buried under different devices, etc...

This is the only way I know how . . .
zerodiscount said:
I am wondering if anybody knows how to get this button to point to the business contacts. I do not want to install new software - I think this is a registry edit type fix. Any help will be appreciated.
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See attatched and it's the 'official' T-Mobile applet so . . . . .

Don't hold your breath for T-mobile 3G . They only have a little bit in Manhattan (apparently) and they were saying early this year that it would be rolled out in August and 1 week away and nothing so far
aLdaRiS said:
I really love my wing.
The T-Mobile Wing would be a better pda if it had 3G, so i don't have to buy a new phone when t-mo's 3G networks comes out.
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RUU updater
T-Mobile Wing would be a better phone if they released the RUU updater with the stock version of the ROM that comes on the Wing!!
When do they plan on doing that?

I'd mainly like to see a faster CPU (preferably keeping the dual core, so the radio stuff is independant) and more onboard RAM/ROM space.
Then, there is the feature T-Mobile announced recently -- a special box that goes onto people's home LANs, where people can make voice over IP calls, and have it automatically handoff to and from the cellular network. Calls made on the wireless at home are free, even if the call gets handed to the cell network.
Of course, I'd like to see a RUU ROM file, as well as a "bare/clean" ROM from TMO, providing pretty much WM6, and the basic T-Mobile network customizations, as a starting base to work from.

How about having the extra storage space built in to the phone instead of having to buy an sd card?

How about [email protected] for the Wing?
Now here's a GREAT Idea! Hotspot @home for the Wing - god knows it'd take little to no-effort for them to allow/enable us to utilize this . . . . .

My wife switched over to T-Mobile cuz she wanted the Sidekick (bleh) so she offered to get me the Wing...I really didn't like how slow and sloppy the phone's interface is. Still don't like how slow it is but I've warmed up to the phone since it's so handy. But I do wish that the apps where not so buggy and was more customizalbe. Like customizing the homepage to have using only icons for certain things or framing some parts of the homepage so that you can view different info without having to leave the homepage and watch my phone akwardly blink to the next screen.

pickpocket said:
I'm having email issues. My wife and I can not get the send/receive function to work with my home email accounts (Cox Communications). I'm using the Wing and she's on the Dash, both using WM6. We didn't have this problem with WM5 so what's the deal?
This phone would be better if I could get an answer from Tech support why I'm having this problem.
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That is an issue with Cox. Recently alot of ISP's have locked their outgoing email to be only able to send from approved IPs. T-Mobile right now is working on getting added to those. Dont worry about it being 6.0, that was just a coincidence.
and
Don't hold your breath for T-mobile 3G . They only have a little bit in Manhattan (apparently) and they were saying early this year that it would be rolled out in August and 1 week away and nothing so far
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The ITCs ban on 3g chips is probably the real culprit behind the 3g launch delay. Why launch 3g when you cant even get any 3g phones imported??

!st letter going out on Friday
Hey everyone, I just wanted you to know that out first letter is going out on Friday. If you have any other ideas please add them.

SIP please . . .
how about giving us the built-in ability to use SIP/VoIP that WM6 provides . . BACK to us . . .

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First impressions.. (MTeoR)

First impessions, coming from a Symbian S60 user (E70, N95, then E50 most recently (today)).
Negative:
Phone loses connection with the carrier, during calls, then reports "No Service" on the home screen. This is with Orange UK.
I don't seem to be able to alter the contact display from Lastname,Firstname to Firstname,Lastname.
I don't seem to be able to specify exactly what "Peak times" means for Exchange ActiveSync.
I don't seem to be able to adjust the brightness of the screen, to save battery life.
The screen is crooked (it's not straight!).
No preview of new emails on the home screen. Just a number telling me there are some waiting to be read. I have to click buttons to see a new email, which I don't have to do on S60 w/active standby.
Positive:
The UI is very fast compared to my E50, which was a dog.
Screen is bigger and brighter
It's fast (I already said that..)
It does 3G, obviously, when it's not showing No Service. Orange haven't rolled out HSDPA properly here yet
and on that bombshell, this phone is for sale. To be replaced by a Nokia E65.
Any takers? - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=121290
Hi,
just a few comments...
Negative:
Phone loses connection with the carrier, during calls, then reports "No Service" on the home screen. This is with Orange UK.
I would say this is BECAUSE of Orange UK
I don't seem to be able to alter the contact display from Lastname,Firstname to Firstname,Lastname.
I am not sure if this works with the breeze but there is a hack for the Universal available to solve this
I don't seem to be able to specify exactly what "Peak times" means for Exchange ActiveSync.
Not sure what you mean
I don't seem to be able to adjust the brightness of the screen, to save battery life.
Using another operator would prevent switching from GPRS to 3G (and back) because of bad network connection, this saves more power
The screen is crooked (it's not straight!).
What do you mean?
No preview of new emails on the home screen. Just a number telling me there are some waiting to be read. I have to click buttons to see a new email, which I don't have to do on S60 w/active standby.
I just tried the Nokia E90 with active standby for a week and turned back to the Breeze. Even you see a part of the mail already you have to do something to read the whole mail or not??
Positive:
The UI is very fast compared to my E50, which was a dog.
Screen is bigger and brighter
It's fast (I already said that..)
It does 3G, obviously, when it's not showing No Service. Orange haven't rolled out HSDPA properly here yet
The screen being crooked is prob. just a production glitch - mine is fine.
As for contacts showing wrong - not a problem here, I don't remmeber how but I either reverted them in outlook or by editing the contact to switch them back around.
micha2802 said:
I don't seem to be able to specify exactly what "Peak times" means for Exchange ActiveSync.
Not sure what you mean
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Simple. In ActiveSync's Server settings (on the Breeze, not the PC), there is a sync schedule. I currently have that set to "As items arrive" under the "Peak times" section. Well, I want to define Peak as being 8am to 6pm, or 9am to 5:30pm, for example
I don't seem to be able to adjust the brightness of the screen, to save battery life.
Using another operator would prevent switching from GPRS to 3G (and back) because of bad network connection, this saves more power
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Sure, but I've been with Orange for perhaps 8 years and never had a problem with *any* handset :shrug:
The screen is crooked (it's not straight!).
What do you mean?
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The screen has been fitted at an angle. It is not straight. Bad quality-control at the manufacturing site.
No preview of new emails on the home screen. Just a number telling me there are some waiting to be read. I have to click buttons to see a new email, which I don't have to do on S60 w/active standby.
I just tried the Nokia E90 with active standby for a week and turned back to the Breeze. Even you see a part of the mail already you have to do something to read the whole mail or not??
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Or not. I can glance at the screen and see that is it spam or something else not worthy of my attention
The E95 is a big ugly thing. Try an E50 or E65.
I don't seem to be able to alter the contact display from Lastname,Firstname to Firstname,Lastname.
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In MS(R) Outlook:
Settings - Contacts - Save As
And i'm sure that phone could make so
but i couldn't find how
may be it is my bug
Nope, edit the contact and change the "file as" selection.
cmf said:
Simple. In ActiveSync's Server settings (on the Breeze, not the PC), there is a sync schedule. I currently have that set to "As items arrive" under the "Peak times" section. Well, I want to define Peak as being 8am to 6pm, or 9am to 5:30pm, for example
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Yes, you can. In Active Sync go to Menu->Schedule->Menu->Peak Times. There you can define Peak days, Peak start time and Peak end time.
Electronic Punk said:
Nope, edit the contact and change the "file as" selection.
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I have 426 contacts.. do I have to do this for each one?
bej said:
Yes, you can. In Active Sync go to Menu->Schedule->Menu->Peak Times. There you can define Peak days, Peak start time and Peak end time.
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Ah, that's good then, thanks
I'm not trolling (honest guv! ) but I thought I'd give this Windows Mobile stuff a go, and the MTeoR seemed like the best idea because I wanted a candybar like my E50 but with 3G. HSDPA via firmware upgrade was a major bonus.
I did the firmware upgrade and discovered Orange UK don't have HSDPA much around this country anyway
I quickly realised that Windows Mobile just isn't quite right at all. It doesn't look or feel quite right whatsoever. It doesn't feel like a phone. It feels like a PDA running a phone application which works 80% properly.
I bought an E65 yesterday and I'm bloody loving it. I have TruPhone installed now and over my WiFi in the house I'm getting free UK landline calls, and reasonable calls to everywhere else in the world.
TomTom6 works.
I have an awesome calculator called Calcium.
Standby screen shows everything I want it to.
It just works.
The UI and behaviour has all the requirements for customisability you could want, although I admit it takes some time to figure out where everything is, with seemingly related options being in different areas/menus.
So, this MTeoR is still for sale and is in fabulous condition with HSDPA firmware on it and still under HTC Europe warranty. Any takers?
Let me ask you a question? which one do you do more often with your phone:
1. Read your email preview on your phone home screen to decide which email to read/pass
2. Make a call with your phone
With a Symbian S60 phone:
1. Just move cursor to email view
2. Example dial steve:
in Symbian you press Contact/Find, hit '7' 4 times, follow by '8', '3' 2 times, '8' 3 times and finally '3' 2 times before finally hit the Green button. Total= 1 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 14 times keypress to call Steve
With MTeoR:
1. Move Cursor to message and with one press you can see the Inbox list.
2. To dial Steve, you press '7', '8', '3', '8', '3' and finally Green button. Total 6 times keypress
The point I'm trying to make is that you need to familiarize yourself with the new OS before you can start appreciating its strength.
There are so many plugins that can be used to customize the Home Screen. Go to Juni site to get a preview of what you can actually do to the home screen.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/anders.ruohio/sp.html
Cheers!
Basically what you're saying is that there's no Predictive Text on the Contact List in Symbian. Fair enough. I see what you're saying.
I tried one of those homescreen plugin things.. Festi-something, or something which sounded like that.
It did all sorts, but no email on the front
Another thing.. I tried to dial my credit card company last night from the MTeoR.
I tapped in (very quickly):
08000288990
and what came on the phone was something like:
8288990
Perhaps it was up to something in the background.. I guess I'd have to go (hmm) start -> settings -> memory -> running applications -> stop applications
to stop them eh?
Just hold down main menu on Symbian.
OK OK I'm only joking, just winding you up. I already know there are good third-party task manager applications available. I've had plenty of PocketPCs before. Never got on with them one bit. Except, oddly enough, a Palm Tungsten.
I guess that's it. I just seem to dislike the feel of Windows Mobile. It's basically still in the Windows 3.0 era, whereas the rest of me moved onto Windows 95, and then 2000/XP. This explains why I hate Windows Mobile ("it just doesn't feel right") and why I prefer Symbian Phones, and the only PDA I've ever actually felt was 'quality' was a Palm Tungsten running that PalmOS or whatever it is they use.
I'm not wrong. Windows Mobile is the equivalent (look & feel) of mobile operating systems as Windows 3.0/3.1 is of desktop operating systems.
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I have 426 contacts.. do I have to do this for each one?
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No, only every 5th one...

TomTom Sound Issue

Question -- I have TomTom on my Tilt ... it installs fine, and works fine ... however each time I start it up the sound is turned off .. .and I have to touch the screen, turn on the sound twice before the change in settings "sticks" and I get the voice giving me directions.
Any thoughts how I can fix this?
Mine does the exact same thing, otherwise it works perfectly. Running XDA Live 1.1 ROM...
That is the default function. You must always activate the sound after starting.
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That is the default function. You must always activate the sound after starting.
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hate to tell you guys, but it's not the default. The sound is on when I fire up Tom Tom on my Tilt, I've never had any issue nor had to go into settings to turn it on before. Are you guys using a ROM other then the original one?
Default off on both my HK Kaiser & my AT&T Tilt. Don't know what to tell you.
Solution that works for me!
I have found that all I have to do is to rotate the volume wheel on the side of my Tilt and the sound gets turned on without having to go through the preferences menu. It will repeat the last direction when you do this but it doesn't bother me too much and it lets me know that the sound is enabled.
The same issues occur with the previous version 6.03
And on other PPCs as well (eg IPAQ hw6910).
But it does not happen always, so I deduce it's related to conflicts with other softwares.
And it certainly isn't a feature, as a previous poster suggested.
TT as a default always starts with sound ON.
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Question -- I have TomTom on my Tilt ... it installs fine, and works fine ... however each time I start it up the sound is turned off .. .and I have to touch the screen, turn on the sound twice before the change in settings "sticks" and I get the voice giving me directions.
Any thoughts how I can fix this?
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I didn't have this problem until about 30 minutes ago, I received the Carcomm Cradle I ordered for the car, installed it, tried out TomTom and now I have the same problem as you.
Are any of you using a Carcomm Cradle?
The only other thing I changed before the sound problem is I bought a "Veripart 3-in-1 Converter HTC ExtUSB" so I can charge the PDA and listen to music using the 3,5 mm jack port.
I also have exactly the same problem, and solve it with the volume wheel. I also had this problem on my Hermes.
TomTom 'fixes'
FWIW, not sure why, but the volume wheel never solves my problem in a predictable fashion, so I've went and found the following apps that make things easier:
TomTom Menu Builder -- Change the location of where the 'Turn on sound' or any button shows up in the menu for faster access. e.g., I've placed my 'Turn on sound' button on page 1 with 'Navigate to' and 'exit application'. The menu also allows you to enable all sorts of 'hidden' menus, with the most useful being the voice preferences menu, which lets you choose how verbose the speaker is. Alternatively, if you're not up to installing the menu builder, you could download my TomTom menu (see attached). Either way, place TomTom.mnu in \TomTom\SdkRegistry.
TomTom Starter -- Make your phone volume max and turn off all notification popups before starting TomTom. Reverses volume and notification changes after exiting TomTom. Great for when you forget that your phone is on vibrate or at a low sound setting.
BTW, its not the ROM that is the problem, it most likely has to do with TomTom. I'm using 6.03, non-taster edition.
The sound will be muted when you start TomTom with a data connection active. If you disconnect your data connection (G, 3G or H) before starting TomTom the sound should be on.....
michi123 said:
The sound will be muted when you start TomTom with a data connection active. If you disconnect your data connection (G, 3G or H) before starting TomTom the sound should be on.....
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Thanks michi123, I seem to recall reading about this in another thread. However, that's still yet another application (comm manager) and button I need to press before starting TomTom.
It's much easier for me to use the two applications I've included, as I'll need to go into the menu anyway to enter my navigation point and should I forget to turn off vibrate or crank up my volume, TomTomStarter fixes that for me...
michi123 said:
The sound will be muted when you start TomTom with a data connection active. If you disconnect your data connection (G, 3G or H) before starting TomTom the sound should be on.....
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Hey your right, I turned, the data connection off and it's Ok now.
Thanks...
michi123 said:
The sound will be muted when you start TomTom with a data connection active. If you disconnect your data connection (G, 3G or H) before starting TomTom the sound should be on.....
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Excellent! That works. And unless you have changed the functionality of your end button (like in the xda ROM) it is pretty quick to hold down the red end button (to close all data connections) before opening TomTom.
But it's not very effective when you're using a converged device, right?
I mean, would you turn off your phone every time you'd want to load TT, and then have to remember to turn it back on (while still inside TT)?
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I mean, would you turn off your phone every time you'd want to load TT, and then have to remember to turn it back on (while still inside TT)?
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All holding down the end key does is cancel all active data connections .. it does not "turn off" the phone (unless you happen to be on a call). So yes, if you want to tun TT when you are on the phone, this solution will not work, but if you want to run TT when you are not actively speaking, holding down the end key first solves the sound problem. Then, you can still make and receive calls and, for that matter, you can still use data programs too, all with TT running.
Very useful thread, I've just updated mine and my G/Fs TyTns, we both have exactly the same ROM and RADIO, hers starts with Volume on, Mine starts with Volume off, the only real difference is that we're on different service providers, we both have MS ActiveSync running against our different corporate Exchange servers, and I have reduced my connectivity to GPRS to save battery. Will give the Tweaker app a go and see what happens. Sh
Alex. What version of tomtom are you running. I cannot get the menu file to work with my version 6.032(8351) no taster version.
Hi guys,
I just wanted to post on here cos I noticed some information that I didn’t agree with and also I have tested what others have said and it works so I thought I would say thankyou in one breath and bugger in another.
I have tested TomTom 6.031 SDK version on a HTC TyTN2, Glofiish, HP614c, HTC p3300 and a HTC Cruise and all of them start TomTom with the sound muted if they have a data connection active!
Sound is not muted at start-up if there is no data connection. This is great to know as I was baffled by it all but it also causes me a pain in that I need the data connection all the time, so I think its a mistake if TomTom themselves presume otherwise.
I have a XDA Orbit 2 on order but I am guessing it will be the same with that. I dont remember this issue with Windows Mobile 5, but it happens for sure on 6.
Also I have an issue with the 6.031 SDK and the unmute function call doesn’t appear to work!
Ho hum... so many devices with the same issue....
Ram
I have to admit I made a slight error in my statement above, I hadn’t tried it on the HTC p3300 and got the same result, it would appear that the HTC p3300 is the only device out of the many I have tried that doesn’t switch to silent when loading TomTom while a data connection is active.
I am trying to work out why this is as I am running the same software installation on all the devices.

My first PDA Phone! (Wall of text and few questions)

I got my first PDA Phone (even though my dad has gone through like 20+ palms and blackberrys) and I am pleased to say it was the AT&T Tilt that I got last Sunday night after reading several comparison reviews on the Tilt and the iPhone. The night I got it I had several problems just getting my Cingular SIM card to work which was in my Samsung SGH-D807. After several hours of painstaking problems between calling up AT&T and going to a nearby AT&T store, I was finally on the HSDPA/3G/EDGE network with my phone fully functional on the next day at 3:00 p.m.
Going back to the night I got it, when I opened the box I was pretty amazed with its functionality with its easy to use WM6 OS. I played around with a couple of the features and found much of them to be quality benefits. Since we have we have wireless internet in our home I was able to use the phone's WiFi capabilities to access the net. At first I was pretty amazed with having a little phone that can surf the net, but slowly lost interest as so much of it was limited to mobile content. So I checked up on forums and I installed Live Search Mobile. Live Search completely changed my views on the amount of accessibility you can have with a cell phone. There was gas prices, movies, and informations on random categories. The map feature was very intriguing as it included satellite imaging, traffic, and even current location GPS navigation. All that you can get on the web, but the one thing that really took me away was the voice enabled search for almost anything. I mean I said Chinese food and there it gave me 25 locations by distance, but the most surprising recognition was that it noticed the real estate business my parents own.
Then I thought about trying out some of the movies and music I had on my laptop. I actually thought the music played quite well and sounded nowhere near awful, even though it didn't have the quality of my Creative Zen Vision, and the video playback was another story lol. Nothing would really play other than some WMV files. So I looked for a solution and I found TCPMP w/ a Flash Bundle. I could watch pretty much anything and this even lead to allowing me to watch Youtube videos! I know this is more of a corporate phone, but who doesn't want some entertainment ^^.
All in all I was very happy with the phone at this point except for the stupid Internet Explorer! So I downloaded Opera Mini and was quite relieved to find out that a WM6 device could compete with the iPhone's Safari application. I could use full sites like Facebook, Economist, CNBC, Edmunds, etc. with no problem. On a scale from 1 to 5 about being smug for buying the Tilt over an iPhone I'd say I was at a 5 at this point.
I guess with all that said I am VERY interested in learning about more applications and ROM flashing (or cooking I think its called). I have been reading the forums and the wiki for more information and have found lots of the information to be quite helpful, but at the same time I can only skim the information with a busy college/part-time work schedule and expected plans for an international flight on the 19th. So I was wondering if you guys could help me, even though I should know better to search and help myself. Here are some questions I really hope some of you can help me with or refer me to a topic/link that can further fulfill my endeavors.
(Some of these questions may have simple solutions, but I would really appreciate answers that would ameliorate my situation rather than answers that belittle me. Also thank you for taking your time to read this and hopefully help me)
1. What are some very good applications that you could easily recommend without even getting second thoughts about? So to say you just love them! What are some good WM6/PocketPC/PDA Phone websites with databases on applications and I'm mostly looking for freeware unless its must have like the Spb Pocket Plus software I'm seriously considering (I have seen several posts about "What I got on my Tilt/Kaiser" but none of them really go in depth on why or what the applications do)
2. I used the KaiserTweak to enable HSDPA and haven't really noticed any calling problems, but someone from Europe stated that you cannot make calls, is this true even though my experience is quite the contrary? (Source: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/10/04/hands-on-with-the-atandt-tilt/)
(Statement: http://www.blogsmith.com/profile/1422309/)
3. I live in Simi Valley, CA right on the edge to the San Fernando Valley (Most populated valley in USA I believe) in Los Angeles incase anyone has a clue about those locations, but I guess it might have something to do with this question: My data connection varies from 2 to 3 bars of HSDPA, to 2-4 Bars of 3G, and up to 3 to 5 bars of Edge. Are there any problems that could occur that haven't because of this issue? (Also I have AT&T's $39.99 unlimited data package, afraid to do $19.99 unlimited data package for lesser internet capable phones, but to get to the point there are also no extra charges for jumping to all these networks are there?)
4. When I bought the AT&T Tilt I also asked the store representative if he could unlock my phone because I'm going abroad to Asia in a few days and he said that the store is not the place to look for that answer (WTF I always get my phones unlocked at the store). Anyways I very briefly saw a thread on unlocking phones if you pay that person, but I think getting it unlocked through the store is a little more secure with little to go wrong. What would you recommend I do to get my phone unlocked, considering I don't want to pay someone online to do it?
5. In the event I do get my Tilt unlocked, I want to use internet at where I'm going so I'm wondering how Opera Mini works with international charges on other SIM cards in the sense I want to use my internet ONLY when I have a WiFi connection available... but when Opera Mini always asks if I want to proceed with this action and there could be internet data charges even though I'm on a wireless connection. So am I charged by the wireless provider in this case or is Opera Mini running through the WiFi? (This question could also go for the domestic issue of not having an unlimited data plan as well)
6. First off should I even consider flashing if I vaguely know what the word ROM means? (Probably a dumb question, but I saw a statement saying 90% of AT&T Tilt user's switch to HTC Kaiser [and yes I know it was greatly exaggerated])
7. Does flashing a new ROM void my warranty? Also if you hard reset does it bring back your warranty in case flashing does void my warranty? (I don't think I have ever worried about warranty until my external hard drive had an interface board malfunction, but I mean I guess it is important)
8. What are possible problems that can happen with flashing a new ROM? (As far as I know you HAVE to use HardSPL or else you can encounter numerous problems that I don't know about)
9. Can you hard reset (Set it back to manufacturer status) to fix any possible problems? (btw is the second soft reset button the one you have to hit with the stylus or is that a completely different button in the procedure?)
10. Is the AT&T ROM really just that bad? I've seen talk of much bloatware which I'll admit is very annoying, or is it kind of like the talk of HP computers sucking because of all the random software they put on them? (I really didn't want to ask this question because of all the flaming some guy got on another post for asking it, but it kind of is a logical question)
11. Does flashing a ROM reveal elements of your phone that are hidden? I saw a post saying someone got TomTom out of their AT&T Tilt even though it comes with TeleNav, then again that could be through flashing... (I'll admit this question was kind of stupid, but I saw on a topic that internet sharing or tethering is on the AT&T, but hidden with no shortcut)
Once again I thank you for taking your time to read this huge thing!
1. Applications - Google map download, Live search, Messenger, PHM Regedit, Screen capture, Windows Live, Yahoo! Go 2 and many others. Websites - This one, Freecabs, rltoday and many others
2. I don't notice any problems either
4. Call up AT&T. Some people have had success unlocking their phones that way.
5. You can see what data connection the phone is using by clicking on the wifi/3G/E/H/G icon in the top bar. I'm guessing that Opera mini will use whatever connection is available.
6. Yeah, you should. If you flash the HTC rom on your phone, it gets rid of all the crap AT&T puts on your phone that you'll probably never use. (It does void your warranty though. But if you reflash it with AT&T's rom before returning it, you should be okay.)
7. See 6.
10. It isn't all that bad. But if you really want to tweak your PDA, like you tweak your computer (i.e. you're a nerd like most of us) you should do it.
p.s. Tilt is a PDA phone, not a smart phone
Thank you ashoooo. For number 4, I just called up and got it unlocked within a few minutes! Now for flashing the HTC ROM I saw a sticky on another forum by a moderator that if you try to flash a ROM you can lock your SIM card. Now that I got my phone unlocked, what is the worst case scenario of flashing a new ROM? People saying cooking a lot with the word ROM does that mean there is a possibility of frying?
<public service announcement>
If you have a Orange HTC TyTN II and have been tempted to flash it to the HTC TyTN II generic ROM (without all the Orange ugliness) then STOP!
We all know ROM flashing is risky, but we have now received a number of reports of people going through the flash process (USPL bootloader then HTC ROM) and ending up with a phone that refuses to accept ANY SIM card, displaying a 'SIM Locked' message continuously.
I'll keep you updated as we know more (investigations are ongoing!), but be careful out there folks!
</public service announcement>
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PS Fear not, i've started work on a de-Brand pack... wink.gif
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Freecabs is a nice site, when I check most other sites they have mostly a plethora of similar plugins or plugins that just seem really risky spyware wise. So far world mobile card reader, live search, tcpmp, dots, opera mini, and kaisertweak! Most likely first plugin I'll pay for seems to be Spb Pocket Plus
Kaiser Apps
simslater said:
1. What are some very good applications that you could easily recommend without even getting second thoughts about?
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TomTom 6 (I had a CD already), alternativly Google / Yahoo Maps
FingerFriendlyFriends (Sounds ruder than it is!)
HTC Albulm
HTC Home (If not on your ROM - UK T-mobile ships with this)
HTC Action Screen - very useful
MMetrics - Get paid to feed data traffic analysis (Might be UK Only)
Soft Key Renamer (Allows "FingerFriendlyFriends" to be shown as "Names" and "HTC Action Screen" as "Actions" on Soft Keys)
Inbox Extender - Delete All option & Mark all as Read option on mail folders
Sprite Backup -if not shipped with Phone
Kaiser Tweak - change LOTS of registry settings from one screen
GPS_Photo_Albulm - Tag pivtures with Coordinates
WM6_RDP Finster - Remote Desktop App.
The Kaiser Thread on Modoco is good too - http://www.modaco.com/category/312/HTC-Kaiser-Kaiser-MoDaCo-com/
simslater said:
9. .....btw is the second soft reset button the one you have to hit with the stylus or is that a completely different button in the procedure?
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Soft Reset is the Stylus push hole
Hard Reset can be done from Setting/System - "Clear Storage", but probably not after a ROM cook. (Someone else to advise)
Good luck !
Welcome to the PDA world, you'll find countless things to add over time, they really are miracle boxes. Here are some rambling thoughts;
Apps, I really think AnyButton Plus (AEB Plus) is a must have app as it allows you to assign many functions to the hardkeys. Not just a single press, but double, tripple, and long press can be assigned to most of them.
Since the phone has GPS, for sure get a stand-alone mapping program, I prefer iGuidance v4, it gives great 2D,3D talking directions with Text2Speech street names.
Get a microSD card, the bigger the better, 4 gig's prolly the best value but there are 6 and 8's out there. For mapping and music and video, you'll need this.
I prefer SPB Backup as my backup program and would consider flashing to a HTC ROM like Sleuth's. Once you get the pda set up to a stable config, back it up. Then if you do manage to screw something up it's east to clear memory, hard reset and restore from backup. Backups are only good for the particular rom that you used to make them on, e.g. if you backup and then flash to a different rom, the old backup should not be used.
ROM flashing is just loading a new opsystem and programs. There are two roms that can be flashed, OpSystem and Radio. They can be flashed independently as desired.
ROM Cooking is the black art of actually creating a new ROM image from a collection of applications and other code, using custom tools to re-compile a rom that can then be flashed to the device. If you flash anyone's rom, show respect and donate to them.
Don't even consider flashing until you read and understand how to first flash HardSPL onto the phone. This will allow you to recover from a bad flash, else you can corrupt the phone and then own a pretty "brick" suitable for holding papers down on your desk.
Be sure and check out the stickies and try the HTC CABs like Photo Album, and random access for contacts.
Check out PocketCM for a very cool contact manager.
SlingBox and it Mobile client are awesome if you want to watch your home TV/DVR/TIVO etc from your phone.
There's a ton to play with, remember that any connection that uses the internet will be considered "data". Streaming apps like radio, video can really use data, make sure you have an unlimited plan in the US and be very carefull overseas as roaming data can be really expensive thru the various carriers. I learned this the hard way in Canada, and got F--ked with roaming charges on a trip. Use free WiFi if you can find it.
Research the band switch (10 button Comm Manager Cab) to add a button in comm manager to hold off 3G when not needed, this will save lots of battery on the road.
Research more on Opera Mini, it's a great app and you can tweak it to stop all the warnings and just launch like any other app.
Gotta go, have fun.
I just bought my Tytn 2 today the only thing is...it's gonna stay in its box until Xmas
I've gathered as much info as possible over the past 2 months before making my decision.
Conclusions: Google phones are too far away. Winmo 6 + 640x480 with some sort of 3D acceleration and keyboard are too far away (I-mate 9502 would've been my choice for xmas) and the guys from Coreplayer made me take the final step
This site is also one of the reasons I chose the p4550 as my first pda phone. The roms you guys are cooking are amazing (paypal donations on the way) and you've all be most helpful in my decision.
Later guys.
RemE said:
Welcome to the PDA world, you'll find countless things to add over time, they really are miracle boxes. Here are some rambling thoughts;
Apps, I really think AnyButton Plus (AEB Plus) is a must have app as it allows you to assign many functions to the hardkeys. Not just a single press, but double, tripple, and long press can be assigned to most of them.
Since the phone has GPS, for sure get a stand-alone mapping program, I prefer iGuidance v4, it gives great 2D,3D talking directions with Text2Speech street names.
Get a microSD card, the bigger the better, 4 gig's prolly the best value but there are 6 and 8's out there. For mapping and music and video, you'll need this.
I prefer SPB Backup as my backup program and would consider flashing to a HTC ROM like Sleuth's. Once you get the pda set up to a stable config, back it up. Then if you do manage to screw something up it's east to clear memory, hard reset and restore from backup. Backups are only good for the particular rom that you used to make them on, e.g. if you backup and then flash to a different rom, the old backup should not be used.
ROM flashing is just loading a new opsystem and programs. There are two roms that can be flashed, OpSystem and Radio. They can be flashed independently as desired.
ROM Cooking is the black art of actually creating a new ROM image from a collection of applications and other code, using custom tools to re-compile a rom that can then be flashed to the device. If you flash anyone's rom, show respect and donate to them.
Don't even consider flashing until you read and understand how to first flash HardSPL onto the phone. This will allow you to recover from a bad flash, else you can corrupt the phone and then own a pretty "brick" suitable for holding papers down on your desk.
Be sure and check out the stickies and try the HTC CABs like Photo Album, and random access for contacts.
Check out PocketCM for a very cool contact manager.
SlingBox and it Mobile client are awesome if you want to watch your home TV/DVR/TIVO etc from your phone.
There's a ton to play with, remember that any connection that uses the internet will be considered "data". Streaming apps like radio, video can really use data, make sure you have an unlimited plan in the US and be very carefull overseas as roaming data can be really expensive thru the various carriers. I learned this the hard way in Canada, and got F--ked with roaming charges on a trip. Use free WiFi if you can find it.
Research the band switch (10 button Comm Manager Cab) to add a button in comm manager to hold off 3G when not needed, this will save lots of battery on the road.
Research more on Opera Mini, it's a great app and you can tweak it to stop all the warnings and just launch like any other app.
Gotta go, have fun.
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Totally agree, apart from GPS SW (me n' RemE differ on that) and as you've noticed...I let him do the typing.
Good thing about XDA-Dev... search (with many variations of what you want) and YE shall (usually) find. Just don't take the first answer you find as gospel, no one knows it all and WE, are all learning from each other, ALL the time!!
Enjoy and have a very good Xmas with your new device..
This should help with some questions.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TiltSpecificWikiPage
RemE said:
Apps, I really think AnyButton Plus (AEB Plus) is a must have app as it allows you to assign many functions to the hardkeys. Not just a single press, but double, tripple, and long press can be assigned to most of them.
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Agreed, I love this utility
Welcome to the whacky world of Windows Mobile
It appears most of your questions have been answered now. You did ask for a list of favourite apps, Three of my essentials which haven't been mentioned so far are Total Commander, S2U2 and pBar.
Total Commander is a Free file manager which supports Registry editing , FTP and LAN file access. It is available here.
S2U2 or Slide to Unlock, is a Touch screen locking program similar to the Iphone. It will stop your ear from launching programs etc. during a call, it also supports Full screen photo caller ID for incoming calls. The latest version is available in this thread.
pBar is a replacement for the HTC Close (X button) app. It is discussed here the latest version is available from here. (English link at bottom of the page)
Enjoy yourself trying all the apps/tweaks you can find. If you dont like something, uninstall it. If you break something and you cant fix it, a hard reset restores your Tilt to a factory fresh state.
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2. I used the KaiserTweak to enable HSDPA and haven't really noticed any calling problems, but someone from Europe stated that you cannot make calls, is this true even though my experience is quite the contrary? (Source: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/10/04/hands-on-with-the-atandt-tilt/)
(Statement: http://www.blogsmith.com/profile/1422309/)
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Vodafone in the UK state that sometimes you won't be able to make or receive calls if HSDPA is activated and connected (the statement came on a piece of paper in the V1615 box), and I've found that this is true if I'm at work (not tried other locations - most areas near me haven't got 3G yet). However, I've just got a Samsung F700 for my wife and there was no warning about making/receiving calls, even though HSDPA can't be switched off on the F700 (as far as I can tell).
Applications
Lots of SBSH stuff.
Phone Weaver
Mainly I use this to auto switch between profiles. EG 5 mins before I start work in the morning, my phone auto switches to a vibrate only function. 5 mins after, it auto swtiches everything back on. It's at the top of the attached screen shot, line starts Steve-C.
Pocket Weather
Pretty obvious really, gives you a several day forecast on your today screen, can have multiple cities stored for easy weather reference. Next line down
ILauncher
One downside of WMobile phones is the lack of a desktop shortcut a la Windows. I got pretty hacked off having to hunt through different screen to find the application I wanted. This one allows you to put shortcuts on your today screen. It also allows for tabs. The third line on the screen shot shows this, you'll notice there is a bit that says Progs, then Games, Utils and C_N. Each one of these is a tab with shortcuts to programs. The tabs allow you to organise them should you decide to have lots of shortcuts. You can also add battery meters, and memory meters. The memory ones will monitor storage, storage card, program memory (think RAM) and many others.
Have a look at the rest of the apps on the site and see if anything else captures your fancy. Nothing did mine. I tried Pocket Breeze but found it too much, the existing calender and messaging functions suited my needs. I personally prefer a Today screen that doesn't run off the screen when you switch to landscape mode.
Rest of the screenshot just shows the standard messages and calender apps.
You'll notice 3 icons on the bottom right. The little globe thing takes me into Today setting for o2 (my network operator) a battery display and shortcut to comm manager. This comes with my phone as standard and I believe it's the HTC home (or Homeplug) application. If I could get rid of this I would as it serves no purpose due to the SBSH ILauncher app.
Icon bottom left, and the differing icons at the top for signal, sound, battery etc is Wizbar Advance 3 from Lakeridge software. Apart from giving you a few fancy icons, the globe at the bottom gives you the a 'new' menu option (eg new sms, email, contact, word doc etc). Could live without that, again as ILauncher gives me all the 'new' options I want, but it's just using up already wasted room so I've left it there. The really big thing for me with this software (apart from the rather cool graphics) is it transforms the Start menu into one more similar to a desktop Windows menu. You will have noticed that if you click programs on your existing Start menu, it opens the Programs folder, Wizbar gives you a pop out menu.
Stuff not on the screen, but that I would reccomend. Some may have already been suggested.
Personally, I'm not that into movies. I used Windows Media Encoder years ago to convert lots of stuff into very small (25mb per 45 mins of video) files and am quite happy with the included Windows Media Player. The fact that I can sync this with WMP on my PC suits my needs fine for MP3's too.
Microsoft Reader. It's free, there are loads of free books out there, and it can be a good way to kill time. Depends if you're into reading or not.
Resco Explorer frankly kicks the built-in file explorer into the dark ages. So much easier to use, much more powerful.
PMH RegEdit already reccomended. If you are going to get into 'tweaking' your new 'toy' you will need a registry editor. This one is free and easy to use. Why pay for something, when there is something out there that's free (legally too!)
Adobe Reader Let's be honest, at some point you may find the need to read a PDF file. It's a free app, and with all the space on your Kaiser you may as well have this sitting there just incase. It's free.
Skype. You probably know all about this. It's an internet telephony app. Allows free voice calls between users, cheaper calls to landlines (especially if your abroad). If you are going abroad, or even in your home country, using this over a WiFi connection could mean that you are paying nothing to chat away!
I too have Opera Mini, I still use IE for some things, but I am pleased with the way that Opera works for some webpages for those times when the mobile version of a website just isn't good enough.
Google Maps Integrates with the Kaiser GPS and can show you exactly where you are, either on a map or on a satalite image. I've already found it to be useful on my previous WM6 phone, if I'd had the GPS ability of the Kaiser it would have been invaluable. Again a free program (you'll need to use WiFi or a mobile connection to actually download the map data) and it could be a life save, especially abroad. If you have access to Microsoft Pocket Street, install it. It's less upto date, but can give just as good maps as Google, but with no connection charges.
Finally, one piece of software for you computer if you have Microsoft Outlook
Jeyo Mobile Extender Adds SMS functions to Oulook when the phone is connected. Copies all you SMS to your PC and allows you to send / receive SMS from you PC via Outlook when connected. I find it useful for storing all my SMS and when I'm at home, my Kaiser is usualy connected to my laptop so I can SMS from the laptop without having to reach for the phone.
The screenshot:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Hope some of that helps with the apps question!
My next post deals with your other questions cause my full post is too big for one post!
Part 2!
2. HSDPA - I live in the UK, but haven't noticed a problem yet with this...
3. Shouldnt be a charge for switching between bands, but with your phone hunting for signals and changing bands all the time, you will find that your battery life will sufffer. Unless you actually need 3G / HSDPA you might want to switch it to stay on a particular band (phone settings). Best bet would be to let it do it's own thing for a while until you see what effect it has on battery performance and then decide if you need to start saving power or not.
5. Opera Mini will run through whatever data connection you have. I think you get a little box up showing when you connect to GPRS, 3G etc (least my phone does). I've used Opera with my WiFi network at home and it hasn't connected to the mobile data network. I would guess this is just a standard built in warning. If you have a WiFi connection and no little box popping up, just ignore the warning.
6. Flashing is totally at your own risk. Yes it can turn your phone into a paper weight (brick). I flashed my last phone to WM6 from WM5 as I wanted some of the functionality of WM6. I am perfectly happy with the stock ROM on my Kaiser (UK o2 network). It is easy enough to do if you can follow instructions. Unless the ROM supplied with your phone is terrible and you HAVE to flash it, it's probably not worth the effort or risk. I've flashed my old phone several times, trying 4 different ROM's (plus the original). This was to get the set-up I needed. The shipped ROM on my Kaiser is fine for my needs so I won't be flashing it.
7. YES! And a hard reset will only return your phone to the state it was when the flashed ROM was originally flashed. EG if you install a new ROM (lets call it ROM A) play around a bit, add apps, then the phone breaks and you have to send it back under warrenty. If you hard reset, you will end up with a phone set-up with the original install of ROM A. AT&T (or whoever you provider is) will spot this in a second and your warrenty will be void. You 'should' be ok if you can flash an original ROM from your provider back onto the phone, but if the problem is one that renders you unable to re-flash the phone, you have a big problem.
8. Some functions may cease to work. Like my old phone lost video calling when I flashed it to WM6. This was a known issue and I don't think anyone ver solved it. I didn't need or want video calling, I did need some things that came with the new ROM so that was ok by me. You may also find that the ROM is unstable and could cause your phone to crash a lot. Worst case scenario, unsucessfully flashing the ROM will leave you with a paper weight. Again, since this is a new phone to you, and you (I gather from your post) have no experience of PDA phones, stick with the stock ROM for a while, get used to it and then if there are shortcomings for your needs, see if any of the other ROM's on offer would solve these shortcomings.
9. In general yes. But you will loose everything and end up with a phone in the same condition as it came out of the box. If you have bricked the phone, the a hard reset will not solve it (I don't think). See above.
10. I have no idea about the AT&T ROM. The o2 ROM I have is pretty free of bloatware. There are a couple of apps I could do without, that bar at the bottom of the screen and the stupid o2 calender function. I have managed to edit the registry (using the PHM RegEdit) to restore the standard calender (hence the usefulness of the RegEdit program, there is no other way to do this) and I'll live with the other, it's not a big enough thing to make me bother finding a suitable ROM and flashing. Again, see above.
11. Hmmm. Basically, flashing will remove everything from the phone and replace it with a completely new operating system designed for a different version of the Kaiser. EG, if you flashed your phone with my o2 ROM, you would get everything that o2 ship their phones with. Likewise if I flashed mine with your AT&T ROM. If a ROM included a demo (or full version) of TomTom, then you would get that. It doesn't reveal 'hidden' software so much as add software that your supplier didn't include as standard. I would bet that most of this software could be installed independently. Again, see above re giving it time before deciding what you NEED the phone to do, and then searching or asking for solutions to that need.
Hope that helps, and thank you for reading the HUGE reply!
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Vodafone in the UK state that sometimes you won't be able to make or receive calls if HSDPA is activated and connected (the statement came on a piece of paper in the V1615 box), and I've found that this is true if I'm at work (not tried other locations - most areas near me haven't got 3G yet). However, I've just got a Samsung F700 for my wife and there was no warning about making/receiving calls, even though HSDPA can't be switched off on the F700 (as far as I can tell).
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When your browsing the internet using a HSDPA connection you'll be unable to make and receive calls. Any calls recieved during this time will be routed to voicemail.
Once you exit the internet application you'll automatically be able to make and recieve calls. It may continue to display HSDPA for a while at the top of the screen but this is just to show the connection is available if you choose to browse.
Hope this helps
Techgirl
Vodafone UK
What a great thread with lots of useful info... this is a must read for any TyTN II noob... I found many things I was looking for, answers and apps alike...

At&t Tilt (Windows Mobile) Call Waiting, GPRS Question

1. Does anyone know any kind of software that play the music while somebody call to my phone instead of the sounds "tut .... tut .... tut ...." ?
2. Is there anyway to configure with the T-Mobile GPRS so that I can connect to the internet without using their plan ? Becasue last time, about 1 year ago, I could use this feature for free (Just connected to GPRS of T-MObile and ready to use. But Now, I cannot use anymore.
3. One more thing is about the Speaker Phone. Is there anyway to adjust it ??? It's too small I cannot hear it while put on Speaker Phone already. (Even I tried to maximize the Volume Already)
I use At&t Tilt, Rom Ver. L26 Diamond V9, Hard SPL 3.29
P.S : Do you know anyway to get the Icon Toggle Screen so that I can turn off the screen while listening musics...
Thanks much.
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any replY ?
Please Reply To Me.... Thanks
1. The music dialing tone is a network feature you must pay for (if you are talking about the ability to play a song instead of the usual dialing sound.
2. Cant help you here, not sure.
3. You are stuck with low volume levels, for the most part. There are a few tweaks that I seen floating around the forums that marginally improve sound volume. Do a search for tilt low sound or something similar.

NOKIA to HTC newbie questions

Hi Guys,
I am coming from Symbian to Windows Mobile. I have a HTC Fuze and can't seem to figure a few things out.
1. In Nokia (Symbian) you can setup your email and other data services to use your home wi-fi when you are in home. When you are outside, it will use 3G/GPRS etc. automatically (once preferred access points are setup). I can't figure this out with HTC FUZE. Everytime I have to turn on and off the Wi-FI Connection (Connection Manager -> wi-fi ON or OFF). if I leave it on, it keeps popping up with networks that it finds. If I leave it Off, it doesn't use wi-fi to retrieve emails and other things when am at home. I am sure this should be easy... Help !!!
2. When I set my phone in Vibrate mode, it doesn't even play music through headphones. I have to set it "ON" mode for it to even play music. This is annoying. At work, I want the phone to be in vibrate mode but still listen to music through head phone every now and then and not worry about my phone ringing. Is there a simple fix? Am I missing something??
3. When the phone is in Vibrate mode, I would like it to vibrate for incoming emails. it does not do that.
4. What is the best recommended "TODAY" Screen plug-in/program for wm 6.5 other than the titanium one?
I am using NATF's Win 6.5 latest ROM.
I appreciate all your help.
Best,
venkss said:
Hi Guys,
I am coming from Symbian to Windows Mobile. I have a HTC Fuze and can't seem to figure a few things out.
1. In Nokia (Symbian) you can setup your email and other data services to use your home wi-fi when you are in home. When you are outside, it will use 3G/GPRS etc. automatically (once preferred access points are setup). I can't figure this out with HTC FUZE. Everytime I have to turn on and off the Wi-FI Connection (Connection Manager -> wi-fi ON or OFF). if I leave it on, it keeps popping up with networks that it finds. If I leave it Off, it doesn't use wi-fi to retrieve emails and other things when am at home. I am sure this should be easy... Help !!!
2. When I set my phone in Vibrate mode, it doesn't even play music through headphones. I have to set it "ON" mode for it to even play music. This is annoying. At work, I want the phone to be in vibrate mode but still listen to music through head phone every now and then and not worry about my phone ringing. Is there a simple fix? Am I missing something??
3. When the phone is in Vibrate mode, I would like it to vibrate for incoming emails. it does not do that.
4. What is the best recommended "TODAY" Screen plug-in/program for wm 6.5 other than the titanium one?
I am using NATF's Win 6.5 latest ROM.
I appreciate all your help.
Best,
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1) I think you can go to Settings>personal>Sounds&Notifications and turn off the found new network notifications on the notifications tab (you also may be able to settings>wifi and change whether it scans or not, scanning seems like it would drain the battery)
2) The volume screen usually (depends on rom) has two tabs, one for sounds, one for ringer, so you could have sounds but vibe instead of ringer. Other than some 3rd party service that switches the volume settings based on the headphone port, i think that's about as good as it gets.
3) In that same settings>personal>sounds menu, you can change the new email notification to vibrate or sound and vibrate or whatever. it has to include vibrate in that setting though to vibrate ever.
4) I like the old-school HTC Home, or similarly SPB PocketPlus or SPB Diary. If you're looking for something fancier, lots of people use the Touchflo 3d (which can work in 6.5) or SPB Mobile Shell (there's a demo of version 3 on their website)
Hope I helped some, I know the windows mobile limitations can be annoying, but they're pretty minor overall (imho). All things considered, I've been a big fan for years, you just need to use a lot of 3rd party apps and tools.
Good luck, finding XDA was probably the best thing I ever did for my WinMo phone, hope you have the same experience.
Thank you very much for your reply. I can't seem to find the setting that you mention for turning off wireless scanning. Is this because of the ROM?
Also, if I have both Data Connection and Wi-Fi connection enabled, and say for example run Opera, how do you know which connection it is using? How do we change/specify the connection that opera uses? I am just using Opera as an example... bigger question is emails.
venkss said:
Thank you very much for your reply. I can't seem to find the setting that you mention for turning off wireless scanning. Is this because of the ROM?
Also, if I have both Data Connection and Wi-Fi connection enabled, and say for example run Opera, how do you know which connection it is using? How do we change/specify the connection that opera uses? I am just using Opera as an example... bigger question is emails.
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Hmm, I think I may have made that setting up
As long as your email account is set to use your Internet Connection (versus Work Connection), which should always be the default, and when you first connected to your wifi, it should have asked something like "This networks connects to: <radio buttons> The Internet, Work Network". As long as everything is "The Internet" you should be good. I don't know how to double check what connection it is actually using except looking at the activity light on your access point, but it should always use wifi over cellular data if wifi is available.
As far as the scanning / battery life, the performance slider in wifi was all i could find. I just use the Comm Manager to toggle wifi as needed, but admittedly I don't use it alot. I could see it being annoying.
So the nokia would know when you were by certain wifi spots and connect, without killing the battery life completely by having wifi on 24/7? That's pretty sweet...
I wonder if it just low power scans Wifi AP's every 5 min or so, maybe someone could make a similar WinMo Service?
I know this is way off topic for this thread, but if anyone has a more raphael specific programming guide, I'd appreciate a link.
I'm taking a look at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa457716.aspx
to see how hard programming is.
Both the headphone thing and the wireless thing would be nice to have as features. I'll see what I can do, but I've never developed for WinMo before, so absolutely no promises on anything =)
Thanks again, Friend.
You are right. I am not sure what happens in Nokia whether it does a low power scan or something... but when you turn off "Wireless scanning" in Nokia, it doesn't aggressively pop up available networks... thats all.
The way I used to do this in Nokia is through preferred access points. You would setup your wifi as your preferred and then the secondary access point would be AT&T network. Whether I use profimail (email client) or fring (chat voip client) they all had such a setting and somehow used wi-fi when I am at home without me doing anything.
BTW, the battery life did suck on my N95 8GB HTC so far has given me way better battery life than the Nokia.
For now, I will leave my WiFi On and see what happens.
The headphone thing is bizarre... I cannot adjust the phone volume only (1st slider bar on that screen) without adjusting the ringer volume. They move together on that screen. I am now in doubt of the ROM... so may be I will try just the plain vanilla Da_G ROM.
I need one general advice - For a newbie like me to winmo who is learning the basics of winmo, should I stay with stable, established ROMs than going to winmo 6.5 right now? should I go back to winmo 6.0? what do you think? Can you suggest a good ROM? I don't need/care to use the TF3D.
I get a lot of emails with attachments and one of the MAIN reason I came to HTC was the ability to edit/read/create Office documents. I will be happy if I can simply tune my HTC to be a good business user phone.
I appreciate your replies. Thanks much!!
venkss said:
Thanks again, Friend.
I need one general advice - For a newbie like me to winmo who is learning the basics of winmo, should I stay with stable, established ROMs than going to winmo 6.5 right now? should I go back to winmo 6.0? what do you think? Can you suggest a good ROM? I don't need/care to use the TF3D.
I get a lot of emails with attachments and one of the MAIN reason I came to HTC was the ability to edit/read/create Office documents. I will be happy if I can simply tune my HTC to be a good business user phone.
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As far as that goes, I've only used 6.5 for a few days, the deal breaker for me was SPB Diary not working (and SBSH Breeze, i tried both, they do the same thing). I NEED them for getting work done. For some reason it doesn't pull calendar data in 6.5, so I've always used 6.1 ROMS.
I'm actually recently back on EnergyRom2.0 from 4/16/09 (the version without TF3D is my favorite ROM ever, i think) but am tempted to tryout the Gen.Y R3 rom, which is a much newer 6.1 that's supposed to be stable, it's built off his popular HTC Diamond ROM and has the newer goodies like wifi data sharing built in. (i think)
Monx's ROMeos is on his site, you have to donate to get download access, but he has some very nice, fast, stable WM6.1 roms I've used before also.
I think at this point, at least with WM6.1, most of the established roms are fast and stable, it comes down to what you like bundled with it, and what looks good to you.
If you haven't seen it, I'd check out www.blownfuze.org, he talks more about 6.5 roms, and a LOT of other essentials for your phone. (in a very entertaining fashion)

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