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OK, so I still have a blue angel, drooling over a kaiser, and my contract with O2 was up last week.
Thinking T-Mobile (for web n walk) but from what I hear the styling isnt as nice as the HTC one, plus my experiences with the O2 version of the XDA IIs ROMs left me a little cold.
So, ideally I want a non-branded Kaiser.
Well, if I take up a contract with T-Mobile, and take no phone, I am losing out, so I thought I would get a phone from them and sell it unused. I was looking and I can get a nokia 6300 for free with the tariff I want and it seems like I could get it unlocked easy enough or do it myself and flog it new, maybe get 100 quid for it? Any suggestions as to whether this would work or if I could shift an unlocked T-Mobile branded nokia 6300 on ebay for a decent rate. Also suggestions as to a better phone to use.
The other question is whether when I hooked the sim-free kaiser up to t-mobile, I would be able to get web n walk and all the other services set up OK. Don't want the T-Mobile front screen etc, just as long as everything works. I would imagine that cooking roms and stuff for it would be much easier as it was a vanilla phone, I am just worried about making the operator-specific settings...
Any other advice welcomed, ie another provider to go with who will subsidise me on the phone and who do an all-you-can-eat bandwidth package for a decent rate.
The only non-flexible bit is that it just *has* to be a kaiser
i did something similar a few years ago, look on tmob for all the phones you can get for free and the look on ebay's finished auctions search for the phone that seems to sell for the highest amount (it is generally the newest phones). You will still be out of pocket doing this rather than just waiting a few weeks on your current contract until tmob release the kaiser.
you will be able to get web'n'walk sms/mms settings fine, but probably won't be able to access their other services like mobile tv very easily
cool, nice to know it can work out.
I think I may have found a better phone to do it with - a sony k800i
There's a few going for over 300 quid at the mo on ebay.
I can get that free with the 15 quid a month contract, that's approaching the price of a kaiser
Not really worried about the mobile TV and stuff like that, am a geek, will do it myself - slingbox or mythtv something
OK, maybe I was smoking crack before I went to lunch or something, but there were multiple K800is on ebay listed at over 300 quid. I come back, check the link and it ended for 99.
WTF?? Maybe it was in euros or lira or something.
Im also going to use this cunning plan!
But I think your best options for a free phone to sell is either the Nokia N95 or the Blackberry Pearl.
Also, ensure T Mobile puts you on a 12 month contract as opposed to a 18 month one.
Agreed that the design of the MDA Vario III looks pants.
you can't get a free N95 on 12mo contract, and on an 18mo contract, you have to go up to the 45quid a mo contract to get it free - it's 250quid on the 15/mo contract I am going to get. The k800i or similar looks to be the phone that is going for the most on ebay that you can get for free with the 15/mo contract.
Am prolly gonna go with the 18mo contract as it is only actually 30quid more for 6 months more contract and you get more minutes / texts
Plus then I can get the web n walk for 7.50 and am still only paying a total of 22.50 a month
Okay. I talked T Mobile in throwing in a free N95, how much do you think it would sell for on ebay? I have no idea of the worth of these Nokias
If its unlocked, probably £250+
Don't get caught though
Here in the NL you could just go to any telecom shop and get any phone they hold in comination to any subscribtion with any provider. Of course these telecom shops are not affiliated with any particular network and usually the discount you get for the phone are approx 50 euros less then T-Mobile for example but it is worth 50 euros to have an unbranded and unlocket phone...(this what I am doing actually right now via a website)
Of course if you get Branded t-mobile device you get a free Micro SD card with it and the best is the guarantee for the duration of your contract. Plus here in the NL if you need to send it for a repair it goes much quicker then via HTC... T-Mobile send you prestamped & preaddressed envelope (a special one) which you use to send in your device. I haad to use this service on my Vario II when I got allignment issues and I had my phone back fixed after 4 business days. Alternatively you can bring your phone to a t-mobile shop and they even offer you a temporary replacement phone (a junky one) but then it takes longer as it has to go throught their main depot.
I am right now ordering a TyTn II via my resellers website with T-Mobile Flex 40 renewal + PITP the phone costs me including shipment 125 Euros...
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Okay. I talked T Mobile in throwing in a free N95, how much do you think it would sell for on ebay? I have no idea of the worth of these Nokias
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Well I see two on ebay currently bidding at £544 and £655 but I saw phones yesterday going for silly amounts and then went back to a more reasonable amount. Maybe bids are getting rejected or someone is playing around.
What tariff did you have to go on to get one chucked in for free??
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Here in the NL you could just go to any telecom shop and get any phone they hold in comination to any subscribtion with any provider. Of course these telecom shops are not affiliated with any particular network and usually the discount you get for the phone are approx 50 euros less then T-Mobile for example but it is worth 50 euros to have an unbranded and unlocket phone...(this what I am doing actually right now via a website)..
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You can do this in the UK, but it seems that T-mobile do not allow this unless the phone is branded or approved or something. Annoying as tmob is the only one doing a flat rate 3G bandwidth package for a reasonable amount (£7.50 pm or £1 a day) I am going to explore this avenue myself, but it seems to me that you can get way more subsidy by getting a whole phone and selling it.
T Mobile wont permit this in the UK because they like to attach branded phones to their contracts, these days banning services such as MSN messenger (which the Vario III will have disabled by default)
Is MSN etc blocked on web n walk now? I heard before that it was technically against the terms, but it was possible.
What about other stuff? I would ideally like to set up some kind of media centre at home and have it pull any mp3s / videos etc I like over the net.
What about VPN? Could I maybe VPN to my home and route everything inside a tunnel, thus denying tmob the ability to see what I am transferring?
I tried selling a phone a while ago on eBay. From past auctions I was expecting to sell my phone for £200 but at the last minute someone bid £350. The PayPal details said "Kate from Richmond" (an expensive area in London) had bought the phone. It was then that I received an email from someone in Nigeria asking me to send it to Lagos... they promised £50 extra for P&P but it was obviously a scam. They started sending through spoofed PayPal receipts claiming to have paid money into my account (even though my PayPal account said differently) and in the end they got quite aggressive and threatened to report me to eBay.
Just thought I'd warn you
OK, that makes sense.
LOL, one of those N95s just finished @ £1131 !
Normal bidding, then silly bids from "Bidder 1", "Bidder 2" etc...
Looks like the 419 business is getting too much heat so the Lads from Lagos have switched to a new tack.
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I tried selling a phone a while ago on eBay. From past auctions I was expecting to sell my phone for £200 but at the last minute someone bid £350. The PayPal details said "Kate from Richmond" (an expensive area in London) had bought the phone. It was then that I received an email from someone in Nigeria asking me to send it to Lagos... they promised £50 extra for P&P but it was obviously a scam. They started sending through spoofed PayPal receipts claiming to have paid money into my account (even though my PayPal account said differently) and in the end they got quite aggressive and threatened to report me to eBay.
Just thought I'd warn you
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I have dealt with these scammers a many a time on ebay. They totally ruin things for all.
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Is MSN etc blocked on web n walk now? I heard before that it was technically against the terms, but it was possible.
What about other stuff? I would ideally like to set up some kind of media centre at home and have it pull any mp3s / videos etc I like over the net.
What about VPN? Could I maybe VPN to my home and route everything inside a tunnel, thus denying tmob the ability to see what I am transferring?
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Its not blocked. Its frowned upon. However T Mobile are now disabling use of it via firmware, hence one of the reasons why the Vario III is being delayed.
So guys, if I sell a new unopened T Mobile N95 for £250, you think its reasonable? Or could I push for more £££s? That Kaiser isnt cheap!
To clarify on Web n Walk...
On the normal (£7.50) tariff, only surfing and email is allowed.
On the Web n Walk Plus (£12.50) tariff, everything except VOIP is allowed.
I will probably go with the £7.50 one and if they moan, go on to the £12.50 one
So guys, if I sell a new unopened T Mobile N95 for £250, you think its reasonable? Or could I push for more £££s? That Kaiser isnt cheap!
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Dunno, might only get £200. Most of the ones over £200 seem to be tampered with...
What you might be better of doing is browsing the net and seeing if you can get 1 on a 12 month free contract with a cheepish phone and then the money u save on the contract put with selling the cheaper phone might get u somewhere...
Hey guys, well with the Tilt coming out I want to get the best price, but I see that the best prices are giving to new customers. I'm already an AT&T customer and have a long time before I can upgrade. I currently have the 8525.
How can I get the Tilt for around $350? I don't know anyone at a store. Has anyone ever bought a phone as a "new" customer and then cancelled the service right away? What fees are payed and how exactly is this done?
Any advice?!
Sorry Man thats just a cheap question to ask... You get what you pay for is the best lesson in life. I dont think any here will help you plan BS
Your best bet is to wait 4-6 months after AT&T releases the tilt and then look to Ebay...
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Hey guys, well with the Tilt coming out I want to get the best price, but I see that the best prices are giving to new customers. I'm already an AT&T customer and have a long time before I can upgrade. I currently have the 8525.
How can I get the Tilt for around $350? I don't know anyone at a store. Has anyone ever bought a phone as a "new" customer and then cancelled the service right away? What fees are payed and how exactly is this done?
Any advice?!
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You can cancel the service, but seeing as how you will have a new contract they will charge you the cancel fee. If you cannot wait then you need to purchase the phone at whatever price they give you. Personally, I'm on a family plan and will be using the upgrade credit from another line to get the phone @ $299.
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Sorry Man thats just a cheap question to ask... You get what you pay for is the best lesson in life. I dont think any here will help you plan BS
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Cmon you don't get what you pay for with phones, -its a big game. Were all paying different prices for the same product.
I got screwed out of 200 bucks on an iphone for my wife because of 48 hrs.
We didn't create the game, the phone companies create the game were just trying to play it. if they just offered it for a price thats one thing, but there are 10 different ways to get this thing at a different price.
easiest way is someone else said, ad a phone an a family plan and reduce the other line to minimum. you ad 10 bucks a month to the bill and get the incentive. Basically your financing the incentive as you will pay 240$ over 2 years with the add on plan.
one thing you can do is to register for a business license and get a sellers permit then you can buy it from manufacturer at cost. just a thought...
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one thing you can do is to register for a business license and get a sellers permit then you can buy it from manufacturer at cost. just a thought...
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I do have a connection at a cingular store and one thing I learned is that they really only need about 6 months into the 2 year to upgrade you. I have never waited for upgrading. You have to be connected though which means go talk to a rep and make a friend and then bring a red bull in the next time as a peace offering
That's not all you need. Good luck getting the manufacturer to give you a good price on one unit.
The best prices are usually for corporate customers, and by corporate I don't mean "business license", I mean "big company that buys MANY phones and service contracts". Basically the best price you can get is a matter of luck and who you know - There are usually no extra tricks available. Either you're eligible for certain deals or you're not.
amazon has it for $50 after rebates with a new service...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WSP16I
You might find brand new tilt at ebay for around $370. (Sim locked though.) It is not easy to find though. I watched a few of them. The cheapest I watched was $365 for a brand new tilt sim locked.
You can easily unlocked yourself.
Sales / Rebates
You could wait for one of AT&T's sales to buy it at $250.00 with a $100.00 rebate. Then call AT&T and if you get a nice representative, ask if they will process the rebate for you; which, if they do, may take the shape of a 'courtesy credit', bringing you down to $150.00. Then, fill out the rebate form, mail it in, and wait. Once you get the rebate, the phone will have been $50.00.
I've been looking for a good deal on a tilt for a while. It doesn't even have to be a still but just a good price. On AT&T site its not that good of a dea plus the fact I have to renew my contract which I'm only 2 months away from being out of.
Listen, all you have to do is go to amazon.com. They will sell you the phone for 200 dollars! All you have to do is either sign up for a two year contract with att or renew your contract. Also you cant break your contract or change your service package for 6 months. I did it and I have a very nice tilt....Filled with a whole bunch of stuff. It would be filled with more if people would response a little faster on this damn forum.
I upgraded from my old razr to a tilt and i got it straight up for $185 with no data plan or anything from the cingular store.
Well, i'm in the process of upgrading my Hermes to a Kaiser on T-Mobile UK. My bill for the past year is £45-£50 a month, and it looks like it'll be about the same for the next year too. so my upgrade costs are.....
On the 30/11/07: £80
5/12/07: £100
20/12-07: £230
Tomorrow? god knows!
oh - on a brand new contract - it was £150 (early dec) now £190.
Have i missed something or is that just crazy????
think i'll wait til the middle of Jan... it'll either be 500+ or free!!
you can get an o2 steller for £89 on a £35/month contract. thats why my girlfriend is leaving t-mobile and going to o2. t-mobile just dont treat their customers very well esspecially their returning customers
It would be worth ringing T-Mobile and asking to end the contract; I'm sure they'll be more flexible in the upgrade cost once they realise they are about to lose a customer
Thats how i got mine, i threatned to leave, as i actually was going to move to orange. But they ended giving me a really good price plan and the kaiser for £80 (unfortunately i couldnt get it for free ) The networks are very tight wen it comes to giving away things
I just went from a T Mobile Wizard to Kaiser, playing the give me my PAC Code routine does not seem to work, however, what does work is to just keep ringing, i rang 4 times and got 3 different deals ???
In the end i got the Kaiser for £80 and they let me downgrade to W&W 20 or whatever £27.50.
I looked hard at Orange and O2, but the W&W Tariff is far better VFM.
just to let you no how it works with T-mobile. each account has a CLC customer lifetime contribution T0-S4 and is worked out on many different things, price plan, what type of cals you make/recive, what's outside your allowance, how much allowance how often u call customer service. basicly how much u cost to keep compared to how much u make them, but not loyalty as a lot of people still think I can't tell you what things have what amout of nfluance as I don't know and nobody apart from the big wigs can tell you either. any way T customers are high value but not many people are T customers, T0 T1 and T2 range from 230-320 on a 12 month and 280-380 on 18 but like I said this is rare and also an advisor can overspend 20 for any T customer without asking anyony. most common are mid value account S0-S4 S0=200 S1=180 S2=100 S3=50 and S4=RRP no matter contract lenth but S0 and S1 can also auto overspend by 30 but only on a 18 month plan baisicly if your S4 you don't get anything. anythibg else and your best option is either a web match so get the same as a new cust ore some times better to just pay some toward the handset, but will only be FOC ir you are a very high user. and threatening to leave and askeing for a PAC and a manager etc will not do anything a a advisor in upgrade team has all the same systems and accses as a manager and the same athority when people put you on hold to check with a manager there probably getting a drink. and kickibg of and demanding a manager will just be told a 2hr cal back which will not happen mainly because its a waste of time for everyone involved as a manager realy won't be able to do anything extra. hope this has cleared a few things up, and I apoligise in advance for punctation spelling etc its late now and im on my kaiser and can't be arsed to check it
forgot to mention vario 3 as a upgrade is 280 or 370 with co piolt
well O2 will still be getting my £89 tomorrow and £42.50 a month for the contract plus web bolt-on. thats £845 over 18 months t-mobile will not be getting
I already tried threatening to leave T-mob, but that doesn't (as said above) seem to acheive anything. They told me i have a £200 "upgrade discount" but thats 200 off any magical figure they pick out the air!
The t&c of o2 web bolt on doesn't reassure me, as despite what they told me in store, it only mentions web access ie web pages and doesn't mention other online services (messenger, voip, ftp, ssh, etc etc).
Oh, and O2 will charge me for the handset based on my voice package cost, then i have to add the web on for an extra cost, but no handset discount!
They way T-mob is swinging the prices about i think they may have a rush on for handsets so the prices are going up, hopefully in the new year they'll have too many and the price will drop....
sory to dissapoint but its not going to get any cheaper in new year its stil going to be 280 handsets like that don't go down in price im afraid the vario2 and compact3 etc are still the same now as when they come out originaly. the prices vary because of who you speak to there not meant to offer full spend straight away and some won't at all and some wil overspend but most won't as the mony they spend affects their stats an also their bonas
well my girlfiend called up t-mobile today to cancel her contract and the oddest thing happened, they undercut o2's handset price. end result, same web-n-walk flext 25 with added £20 a month for free. so £89 worth of calls texts, and mms. grand total £32/month and the handset was £69.99
this was the first call to t-mobile, no repeated calls, she just told them she was treated rude by the instore rep and said o2 had offered her the stellar for £89 with a better data package (£7.50 a month for full HSDPA) not t-mobiles cut down 3G web-n-walk service for £7.50.
Thats all it took and he sorted out the vario III to be picked up instore because the warehouse didnt have any
RESULT!!
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you can get an o2 steller for £89 on a £35/month contract. thats why my girlfriend is leaving t-mobile and going to o2. t-mobile just dont treat their customers very well esspecially their returning customers
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O2 seem to IMHO. Haven't paid for a phone from them in 4 yrs. Started with a Nokia 6230, then the 6230i, then to the XDA Exec (HTC Uni) and now the Kaiser (Stellar). My monthly spend is £30-£40 and all but the latest were 12 month contracts. Now on 18 month due to better offers. Interestingly, they seem to have upgraded my handset warrenty to 18 months too. I wonder if any of the other networks do this?
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sory to dissapoint but its not going to get any cheaper in new year its stil going to be 280 handsets like that don't go down in price im afraid the vario2 and compact3 etc are still the same now as when they come out originaly. the prices vary because of who you speak to there not meant to offer full spend straight away and some won't at all and some wil overspend but most won't as the mony they spend affects their stats an also their bonas
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Note quite, the online "my t-mobile" has the same upgrade price (getting more expensive since the start of dec), so its not the person i speak to, its the computer system. Either T-mobile are downgrading my "upgrade status" or the basic cost is going up. Also, the new customer cost has gone up in the past 2 weeks. Next time i speak to them i'll try and get a better deal, but i'm not confident they have that much power to override the computer. :-(
well I was first quoted £230 upgrade on my girlfriends contract from the Vario to the Vario III. when we called today to cancel they did have a better price, even though we had been told by an instore rep the compuer had the last say in your upgrade price and threatening to leave t-mobile would have no effect. he saud it was useless calling t-mobile as they would give the same price as he quoted.
He obviously was talking total crap because they where very quick to give a good deal. £69.99 for a vario III on w-n-w flext 25 is a damn good price as they also threw in the same extra £20 as the original contract and we got w-n-w plus for the price of w-n-w standard.
Prices are not set in stone so dont settle for those inflated prices quoted. Its all about who you tallk to as to what price you get. basically any rep that tries to charge £230 wants to give themselvs a decent commision and not give the customer a decent price
I was fully ready to get an o2 stellar after the way my girlfriend and I was treated in store. He was rude and refused to call customer services to check for a lower price. He told us we may as well go somewhere else if we wanted to pay less.
The way we where treated was brought up in the phone conversation with t-mobile and it may have had some bearing on the price, or it coud of just been the sales rep that wanted to give us a good deal, either way its was not a set price as he quoted two prices before we went for the final offer
I got my Stellar from 02 for £40.
I was going to move to t-mobile until i phoned up 02 and asked to cancel.
They guy on the cancellation desk was very helpfull and gave me a good deal so i decided to stay with 02
the only downside is that there is no 3g in my area with 02 but there was for t-mobile but getting the stellar for £40 instead of £117 I can live without the 3g
the cost for a new T-mobile vario did go up but i dont no why but the upgrade price has always been 280 and will be for a long time. your upgrade limit can change whenever it feels like it but can be overid by any 1 the advisor can overide any think on the system its just what wil happen if they do, thats why no one will and managers cant do anythin different, there are extra things that can be done but there is still a limit and never to far from the original.and one other thing NEVER listen to what my T-mobile offers it is always the absoultr minimum i work in the loyalty team at T-mobile as you can probebly gues from how much i no if any one wants to PM me with there number i will do u a favor and call u up with the absoult best we can do. im leaveing soon so dont realy care what my stats and spend are so ill let ya no the best we can offer
one other thing never listen to the people in the shops either there systems are compleatly different from theirs the ring us to set their offers on the system for them. allways call the network direct never upgrade online or instore unless its been set up first over the phone for you
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the cost for a new T-mobile vario did go up but i dont no why but the upgrade price has always been 280 and will be for a long time. your upgrade limit can change whenever it feels like it but can be overid by any 1 the advisor can overide any think on the system its just what wil happen if they do, thats why no one will and managers cant do anythin different, there are extra things that can be done but there is still a limit and never to far from the original.and one other thing NEVER listen to what my T-mobile offers it is always the absoultr minimum i work in the loyalty team at T-mobile as you can probebly gues from how much i no if any one wants to PM me with there number i will do u a favor and call u up with the absoult best we can do. im leaveing soon so dont realy care what my stats and spend are so ill let ya no the best we can offer
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I sure wish you would of said this yesterday before we went for the £69.99 offer. although it was a damn good price for the fact she is still on webnwalk flex 25 with a £20 extra credit a month and webnwalk plus for the price of webnwalk standard.
Would you have been able to get a better price?
to be fair 69.99 on flext 25 is a good offer anyway i dont think i could have done much more than that. you definitely got a good deal
I'm glad i got mine when i did then.
Cost me £100 for the fone, but i kept my Staff discount even though i'm not staff anymore, so i've got 50% off everything...
Flext 35 and W&W Plus for £25... i'm well pleased...
Rather pay slightly more for the fone and save over £300 line rental over the life of the contract...
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I've taken my sim card from my old Razr and put it in my new tilt. Everything seems to be working fine. I had unlimited MediaNet data on my Razr. Will that carry thru to my new Tilt?
yes, it will carry through until AT & T realize you have a WM phone then they may make changes to your plan.
i had the same thing i went into the store and asked and all the did was register my phone with the SIM/phone # with the IMEI # the guy said this will keep people from stealing it and putting a new SIM in. but in all reality there isn't a reason to go in and do anything the plan is identical UNLESS! you add MS Exchange, then they tack on an extra $10 or maybe $20 i would have to check. I don't recommend it just hook up your gmail account.
I would just keep the sim int he new device and not say anything about it. Let ATT figure it out. I seriously doubt they will though since they have warranty swaped and upgraded my phones in the past and everytime I call they still think I have my original from when I first started...
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yes, it will carry through until AT & T realize you have a WM phone then they may make changes to your plan.
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is that yer best guess?... cuz it is ONLY a guess, just to post something.
att aint gonna do nothing.. not a thing..
you learned something today..
at least when you post guesses, you should preface it as a guess.
hope my reply helped 2 seperate plans unlimited (which you have) and the Exchange server (allows sync with windows exchange, outlook etc.)
It's not a guess but a fact as I had the 20$ unlimited media package from my razr, then to my Hermes, then to my kaiser, and all was well until my Kaiser crapped out and had to upgrade to the ppc plan to get my new kaiser running. 35$!! They say that data plan doesn't work for ppc's, even though It was working just fine for two and a half years; I smell a lawsuit coming...
I'm not sure why nobody has looked into this with their local attorney's or even at a Federal level, these phone company's are getting away with anything they wish! I don't even pay half that amount for my monthly DSL! **** this ****, goin to downtown L.A. today to connect with my Lawyers
@kaalgoosy: Read this.
Point is, you shouldn't have to run circles and basically trick your service provider from charging you more monthly charges when it's not necessary for getting the same service. Multiply the added service charge by how many new customers are being duped=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Yea, there's a way to sneak past these charges by pretending to own an old school miami vice brick phone; but how many other people are getting screwed???
The point is, the plans are pretty unclear now as both are "unlimited". But the cheaper one is to be understood as having lets say a 3GB/month limit before they will come and moan at you because there's no way you'd download that amount of data using a common phone and light browser, while with the expensive one you can do what you want (truly unlimited).
The only thing you would get from suing them is for them to state a clear transfer limit for the cheap plan. The thing is that, but if they have too much trouble they'll just limit the cheap one at lets say 2GB/month.
Or you wouldn't get anywhere as I wouldn't be surprised if there was already a limit mentioned somewhere in the small print that nobody reads.
No, Both plans are labelled and listed as "unlimited" media packages, and I've experienced no extra charges from extra kb or mb downloads for the last two years
there was never a specification on download kb's. It was an all you can eat plan, I must have spent an hour on the phone making sure I wouldn't be charged for exceeding my download limit as I 've seen my friends phone bill exceed 1000$ in one month for sending one too many pics and texts
That's the point. They don't have a fixed transfer amount after which they charge you for extra traffic, rather if they judge you use too much with regard to the device category your plan is meant for they'll "kindly force" you to change for the one that matches the usage you really make of it.
That's exactly what I'm talking about, a contract is a contract, and you can't just change a stipulation or add a ghost policy because it might not suit your company's best interests. Only in my second year of law school, but c'mon, this smells like horse****, gonna read the finer details today
I changed my plan on my N1 to the unlimited web for 9.99 before the plan was expired. I love it. It's a savings of $240 a year, and also I think tethering was still not a criminal activity the way it is now (sarcasm).
I love my N1 but two things have really started to bother me about it, one is the battery life, and somehow I messed up my call speaker so now I have to always use the bluetooth when calling otherwise I can't hear anything (which isn't TOO much of a problem cuz I hate using the phone without the bluetooth anyway, but it's gonna be a problem if my bluetooth's battery runs out).
So I want to upgrade, but I really don't want to lose this plan.
Is anyone else in the same boat?
buy a phone out of contract and swap the sim, youll be paying the unsubsidized but the advantage of the 9.99 plan is worth the extra 150-200 youll pay for the phone.
or hit up ebay/craigslist.
thats what i did when i bought my n1 for att, out of contract and same grandfathered web plan
u can get a HTC hd2 or nokia N8 and still take advantage of unlimited 3.5G
I didn't want an N1 but it's the only Android device that I can use with the 9.99 web plan. (I'd kill for a pentaband Droid Pro) I don't like the way Nokia's stubbornness killed the momentum for advancing Symbian and above all else, Maemo/Meego but if battery and calling are of high importance an E7 or N8 would solve this and your tethering requirements.
I used an N900, E73 and E7 for quite a while and must say the E series / S60 devices made me realize how often good battery life gets taken for granted.
disgustip8ted said:
buy a phone out of contract and swap the sim, youll be paying the unsubsidized but the advantage of the 9.99 plan is worth the extra 150-200 youll pay for the phone.
or hit up ebay/craigslist.
thats what i did when i bought my n1 for att, out of contract and same grandfathered web plan
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This doesn't work though. People who got the Nexus S were forced on to the 30 dollar android plan even if they bought the phone off contract and didn't let T-Mo know..T-Mo started blocking the phone unless you upgraded to the android plan..some people got it down to 20 with a little arguing, but that's it. Did anybody else find any other solutions?