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How to get the State when dialing number or Caller ID?

Hey guys on my 6800 when dialing a number it says what state the area code is, how can i get this feature on my Tilt?? thank you
and is it possible to have it while calling in?? thanks

I think that's just a Sprint feature.
I used to have it on my cell phone with Sprint, and you say you have it on your Mogul now. I've had Windows Mobile phones on T-Mobile and now AT&T, and neither has it.
Someone correct me if you've ever seen the state name displayed next to a phone number on the screen of any phone other than Sprint.

Yeah almost all my sprint phones had that feature, damnit i find it rather usefull sometimes when i refuse to answer a call and find out who it can possibly be.. Well if anyone knows how to get this on our phones, i know they have it for the mogul, so it must be somewhere in the rom...

Sometimes I am amazed at the lack of applications for WM5/WM6 versus the Palm. I had a Treo before the Tilt and no matter what, there seemed to be a program for everything, including AreaCodes. When I cam to Windows, I assumed there would be 1,000's more, but it is simply not true!
Sorry for that......

You would think it would be pretty simple... just have the phone display the state name matched from a list of all the area codes and their states...

Maybe someone can cook a cab? I would if i know how to do it

G1 in Hand (Ask Away)General Questions

Does anyone know if the text messaging will be threaded similar to wm 6.1?

gottifour said:
Does anyone know if the text messaging will be threaded similar to wm 6.1?
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it will be similar but yet not similar....................it will be threaded but it wont be all pretty; but yes threaded there is a video that shows this i dont recall which one due to the fact that there are like 30 videos on youtube......but its there somewhere

Thanks for the reply...I really got used to the 6.1 version. I hope somebody way smarter than me develops a nice program similar to what we have been using.

with this being so open...the sky is the limit on what can be done...look at what people have done with WM on here. These guys will be computing their fingers off making new apps...i am sure that we will not have to use the android market..im sure that people will make apps-> download to computer->use computer to put on our SD-> install to phone...

I like the threaded SMS - It's very smooth for me, kind of like a prettier IRC.

I give it 2 weeks max till it comes out if it isn't already on g1, threaded text is my favorite feature from 6.1.

stats555 said:
I give it 2 weeks max till it comes out if it isn't already on g1, threaded text is my favorite feature from 6.1.
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It's there, and is mentioned a few times in the user guide:
G1 User Guide-Page 57 said:
Select a message thread in the list to open it for reading. When open, the individual messages appear stacked on the screen, much like with instant messaging conversations (or chats). Note that messages you send are also listed in the Read view.
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It's there, and is mentioned a few times in the user guide:
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cool..thanks for the reply

questions using the g1 without 25$ plan
-if i buy a g1 in ebay and i dont want to pay the 25$ add. plan, i can use this phone with my tmobil plan?? only have to change the sim card?
-for request a phone now i have to select 35$ or 25$ addicional plan. when i have the phone i can cancel this 25$ or 35$ plan?
now i am using excalibur with 4.99 internet plan.
thanks

Negative. The data plan is required. It will be added to your account when you get the phone. It's tied to the G1.

beartard said:
Negative. The data plan is required. It will be added to your account when you get the phone. It's tied to the G1.
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Tmo said the same thing with the sidekicks. But after a while you were able to remove sidekick plan.

It may very well be. But the fact is that the data plan is part of buying the phone. If you make changes to the plan within the term of your new, two-year contract, you risk that early-termination fee deal.
For those who didn't re-up a contract for the phone, nobody knows just yet how it will work if you cancel the data plan.

This is like if you go to the AT&T wireless forums, 5000 questions a day about removing the iPhone plan (can't be done). Are there ways around it? We don't know yet. What we do know is, T-Mobile is making you keep the plan as long as you keep the phone, exactly like iPhone. If you can find a way to use it without the plan but still get unlimited data, do that.

technically, if Tmobile doesnt know you have the Dream, they cant make you purchase a package (unless I am missing something). If you leave your phone listed in the My Tmobile as a Dash, or whatever, the options available for that phone are shown and will not include the dream packages. If you buy the phone elsewhere, they wont know until you tell them.
Of course I have absolutely no idea why you would want a phone like this without data (and without text messaging, since they are likely tied) as it would be so crippled.

well t-mobile would know because i called them a day and they told me every phone i've used including the iphone. They said everytime you make a call from you cell they get info on what phone your using

interesting, because they only knew the last phone they sold me when I called them before. I have never bought a Dash from them, yet they allowed me to add tzones access to my "razr" and use it on the Dash for over a year before I upgraded to the full internet plan.

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interesting, because they only knew the last phone they sold me when I called them before. I have never bought a Dash from them, yet they allowed me to add tzones access to my "razr" and use it on the Dash for over a year before I upgraded to the full internet plan.
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Same thing with my tilt... in fact I keep telling them that it's the wing and my.t-mobile.com never saves it. I think that if you have a t-mobile phone they can tell but if it's an att or even a CID/SIM unlocked phone (Correct me if I am wrong on the CID/SIM part) they can still see it but it doesn't match any of their phones so they don't know what it is.

wat if i have familt text messaging can i only pay 15 or 20 for data

Vendor and model/serial number are contained in the IMEI.
eg. 00|000000|111111|0
First 2 groups are TAC and stuff, third is UE serial, last is checksum bit.
IMEI and IMSI are sent to the network when the device attatches to a cell.
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Looked at the spec quickly (just happened to have Rel6 to hand, as you do)
Its in 22.016 if anyone is interested.
Composition of IMEI
The composition of the IMEI shall be such that each individual mobile station equipment can be separately identified.
Information is contained in the IMEI by which the PLMN, after requesting it, can immediately decide whether or not to accept calls made by means of this equipment.
Secondly, the IMEI shall directly or indirectly contain all information which is necessary for the network operator to make relations through its administrative system to trace the equipment to its origin of production. 3GPP TS 23.003 [2] describes the structure of the IMEI in detail
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T-mobile can see every phone you use
Dabs is correct, every time that you make a call the network sees and logs the IMEI number on the phone. I work for T-mobile and when you pull up an account you can see every device that has ever been used on that account and the dates it was used.
T-mobile has traditionally not cared what kind of phone that you use, if you want to buy an unlocked smart phone and you can get internet access working on t-zones they don't care.
T-mobile knows that you are using a G1, the question is do they care. I can personally vouch for the fact that it will work on a blackberry data plan, I had my sim in one today and had full 3G service (averaging roughly 700kps over 3).
Regarding the sidekicks on t-mobile, the data plan is required (but can be removed) because of the way the sidekick stores data on the sidekick server. Sidekicks store the majority of their data on the server. The phone restores data off of the server after being turned off. If you do not have the sidekick data and remover the battery you lose all of the info, contacts, etc, except what is stored on the sim card.

AT&T data plan

I recently bought an imported unlocked Diamond2. I have AT&T as phone provider. The first day I setup my data plan, it worked, since it stopped. When I call them they say that I can't have data plan with this phone since it's not an AT&T phone and that was the reason why I couldn't access internet.
My concern is: At the beginning, I worked!!! It's just a day after the activation of the data plan that it stops working; I have a feeling that they may have blocked my phone after detecting that it wasn't an at&t phone.
Also when I go do "Data Connection Setup", I can clearly select "United States" and "AT&T"...
Has anyone encounter this issue? Has anyone got a data plan with AT&T and got it to work with the Diamond2?

They killed mine too. I switched over to pay as you go for now until i can get another plan. I will not stay with a company that shafts you at every turn.

OK so it's not just an impression, they really did block the phone... Is this legal???
In any case, I'm going to call T-Mobile to know if this will work.

Unfortunately, yes they can. Most of the time they don't care but since they have contracts with the phone makers and some are exclusively with them, they don't want people to just go out and get whatever phone and use it on their network while they lose money with the contracts they have with the vendors they own. Its all about the bottom line for them and as a business its their right, although I am with you, I hate that; however, its understandable, they are out there to make money. Now I know for sure from AT&T techs that if the phone you are using is NOT on their hardware list BUT its made by one of the hardware providers they have a contract with, then they don't block it. If that helps any.
To give you an example, I have an iPAQ 910c, not a device they sell, but since they support iPAQ 6515, they don't mess with me. I had a Q9h (before my wife took it) and then my friend gave me his HK version I think known as Q9M or something crazy like that and it works fine because its still a Q. You get the idea.

OK.
So I actually got tricked by a d#[email protected]%ss at&t guy who ensured me that my phone couldn't work since it was not an 'at&t certified' phone, which made me suspicious since it first worked.
Then when I read the post of someone having the same issue, I got intrigued and I called AT&T again... with the intention to talk to a manager and to clarify the situation.
This time I ended up talking with a very nice lady, which couldn't help me much except by assuring that the problem wasn't on their side and that my phone should work if it ever worked.
So I started thinking and realized that I actually changed ONE thing between the time it was working and the time it stops working... Guess what... That ONE thing was actually the reason why I couldn't connect to the net anymore...
Back then, I was annoyed by the USSD notification message which kept popping up every hour or so saying: "Your last transaction costs you $0.00..." making by phone beeping every single time... I found that it was actually possible to disable them (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326851).
Well the problem by disabling them is actually you loose also you internet connection . I didn't realize it immediately since I had my wifi connection working.
Now I'm back to day one:
- internet work
- i'm still deeply annoyed by the USSD notification message mentioning a $0.00 transaction

There you have it. They might be money hungry corporate bastards and we may wish them to crash and burn but "sometimes" even they are not at fault and crap just happens. Glad you figured it out and its working for you and remember that although they can block the phone as long its by a manufacturer they support, its unlikely. Take care.

At least they are supporting the HTC Fuze which is a touch pro little brother of the diamond, father of the diamond2
They can't ban an uncle, right?

kandjar said:
At least they are supporting the HTC Fuze which is a touch pro little brother of the diamond, father of the diamond2
They can't ban an uncle, right?
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They can try but you mess with my uncle, you mess with me

that's rough. Mine still seems to be working. Since I reset my phone youtube stopped working but me setting up VOiP might have jacked that up. make sure your connections are set to wap.cingular... other than that I'll let you guys know if mine shuts off.

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that's rough. Mine still seems to be working. Since I reset my phone youtube stopped working but me setting up VOiP might have jacked that up. make sure your connections are set to wap.cingular... other than that I'll let you guys know if mine shuts off.
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Don't sweat it bud, probably a setting got screwy somewhere, it happens quite easily actually. Hope you figure it out but all else fails, nothing more surefire than a reset although its overkill and hope it doesn't come to that.

WOW that really sucks. Have you made sure that you have the right settings? Don't know what they are for ATT. For T-mobile my settings did not work the first day and I was freaking out. The next day everything worked fine.
All I can say is switch to T-mobile. I have been with them since they were VoiceStream. In My 8 years with them I have only owned 2 T-mobile branded phones. The Nokia 3390 and a Rizr Beause my phone got stolen and I needed one bad. The rest of my phones have been Unlocked/Unbranded. I use the $5.99 Unlimited Data Plan Which now is $9.99 but is limited to the amount of data. I used to pay $2.99 but when I got the Rizr was stupid and signed a new contract. T-mobile has never blocked any of my services.

Wow that sound cheap! I'll definitively consider switching once my current pay-as-you-go stuff expire...

Really like the phone but no 3G and switching to Asus P835. At least will get 3G in 1900 frequency area.This one only got 900/2100. Same price..

For AT&T, don't pay the ridiculous price of a data plan, sign up for MediaNET, same exact internet and its much much cheaper. Just whatever you do, DO NOT TELL THEM you have a PDA and on the accounts page DO NOT update your phone to match the PDA, just pick a generic version of the bran you are using.

Which MediaNet plan are you talking about?
I m currently using (trying) the 20$ for 100MB per month as pay-as-you-go service; is there any cheaper one?
(I also notice that youtube doesn't work, even if everything else seems to be working fine (web access, mail, weather...))

kandjar said:
Which MediaNet plan are you talking about?
I m currently using (trying) the 20$ for 100MB per month as pay-as-you-go service; is there any cheaper one?
(I also notice that youtube doesn't work, even if everything else seems to be working fine (web access, mail, weather...))
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The one matching your usage habits. There is cheaper one, the last I checked they had a 5.99 for 500 mb I think. You can check but I can check for you if you want, let me know.

Moving from tmo to att. what happens to all my apps?

Hi. As the title says I might be moving from t mobile to att and I will be getting an att nexus one when I do this because 3g speeds are very important to me. I have a bunch of paid apps and I am just wondering what will become of that?

Cant believe someone is switching from tmo to att.
I switched to tmo after 7 years with att. Much better customer service, no nickel and dimeing, lower bill.
tmo has 3g too.

britoso said:
Cant believe someone is switching from tmo to att.
I switched to tmo after 7 years with att. Much better customer service, no nickel and dimeing, lower bill.
tmo has 3g too.
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Its because we're on a family plan and my dad is working in Mississippi right now. T-Mobile has an absolutely horrendous signal there. Can't even get GPRS. Forget 3g. And if he gets a job back here its not hard to simply go back to T-Mobile as we all have unlocked phones. Anyways do you have an answer for the original question?

I think they stay with you...
... because when you get to the new Android device you will activate it with the same google account you used on the last one and your apps will follow.
You might also use AppBrain to grab a list of your apps before you leave Tmo and then sync again with AppBrain once you get to ATT

I dont think it will matter because those are all connected to your gmail account, not your sim card or even phone imei. As long as you haver 2.2 and "back up my settings" selected in settings, it will automatically restore your phone when you activate a new n1.
Hope this helps

Just make sure you sign into the account you bought your apps with on the new device, and it will download your apps automatically.

Well the thing I'm wondering is that, wouldn't my old device have to be disabled somehow? Because if I can just sign into multiple devices then people would be stealing apps left and right.

If you root you can always use titanium backup and swap that way. There's even a cross compatibility mode now as well. Backs up programs AND data (saved games, settings ect....)

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Well the thing I'm wondering is that, wouldn't my old device have to be disabled somehow? Because if I can just sign into multiple devices then people would be stealing apps left and right.
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The point is to factory wipe your old phone so a stranger isn't getting your paid apps for free. Google only ties your paid and free apps apps to your gmail account cause they know nobody would let a stranger keep their paid apps. And they don't care if a legitimate owner keeps 2 active phones on the same account cause that person has it in their interest if they want to do that cause they paid for their apps.
It's the same principle as owning a credit card. If I chose to give my credit card to my son to use, then its my choice and the card company does not care cause its in my interest to do what I want with my card. And if I want to take responsibility for that giving it to someone to use then its no issue in their eyes, the bill still gets paid.

Paid apps are tied to your Google account. How do people not know this?

[Q] Is there a way to ditch my provider completely?

I want to get rid of AT&T, but keep my captivate for wifi phone use if possible. I really need to get phone service through my wifi because reception where I live on any network is horrible. I know I could just get vonage, but if there is a "free" alternative, like google voice, id like some info. If you want to PM me that's cool. If I absolutely must keep a number active for google voice ill just switch to a cheaper carrier. I hear t-mobile will let people open data only service that links a phone number, and I know I can unlock the phone and use it on tmobile. Anyway if anyone has any input for keeping the phone but ditching carriers altogether please let me know.
...I will try to turn off my service and try google voice, linking it to my wife's phone number, and see if I can get it to work when I get home from Christmas shopping later...

Yup.. pay the million dollar fee to disconnect from AT&T before your contract is up - ***edit go to another carrier and they will unlock the phone to work on their carrier. You would need to request the unlock code from AT&T (I don't know if they would do it or if its really even needed.) then go to the other carrier.
And... depending on how long you've been on your contract I "think" its a minimum of $175.00 - but you will need to talk to your AT&T rep.
At least it isn't Verizon - with a crazy $600.00 early termination fee that my job had to pay for 3 phones!!

Other carriers don't unlock phones.
OP all carriers offer microcells that you put in your house to get cell service. Att has one. Google voice requires an existig number to forward calls to; your phone needs a number. If you only have wifi then why bother with a cell phone? If you can't get good cell then a data only plan wont help either.
Sent from my MB520 using XDA App

Thanks. I sort of just needed to know if it was possible to have google voice with any number or if it had to be the cell I was using google voice on. I know I can pay to get out of contract. I also knew I could carrier unlock my phone. Thank you.

Hi, I still consider myself a noobie when it comes to Android, but i do have experience with other platforms, and (if i understand you correctly) CAN be accomplished. I have personally done this on an iphone,WinMo,and sort of on a Blackberry.
1.Wi-fi calling : By using Skype In/Out you can have a number that rings in and you call out. It will cost around $60.00 annually.
2. 3G calling requires a carrier for data and some hacking but it can be done.
P.M. Me if you need some help.

Google voice can be used with a cell or land line phone number. Haven't tried to use it strictly WiFi so I can't offer much there, but it does work with any existing number you have.

Google is offering free calls through 2011 through your browser. Not sure if this helps much, but...
http://googlevoice.com/showthread.php?139-Free-Calling-in-Gmail-through-all-of-2011
I would think you can do this through a mobile browser as well provided you can get WiFi access