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Why Opera?

I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib

Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.

Drag and scroll.
Highlight and copy text
Save images
Successfully renders web pages more frequently than does the IE - IMHO

herpi said:
I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
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Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
EDIT: Update to above entry. PIE now has a fix for scrolling issue - downloadable here: IE Slow Scroll Fix for Kaiser_Tilt.cab
Mike

mikechannon said:
Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
Mike
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Gotcha!
Tested them both with a longer page and the difference is clear.
Thanks for your input.
Huib

Hi!
can Opera-mini and other apps be run from the memory card satisfactorily?
i.e are they slower?
I wonder if my other applications such as Resco Explorer 2007 and Code Wallter can be run from the card too?
Ofiaich

Don't take what I say as gospel but when I had Opera installed on the SD card it didn't function completely correct - like didn't follow email links correctly along with a couple of other glitches etc.
Likewise I have always been a bit hesitant to install things that operate so cloely with the OS, like Resco Explorer, to the card. They have always seemd to work much better on the main memory. Just my opinion.
Thus I have Opera mini and Resco Explorer installed on the main memory while just about everything else I have on the SD card.

jcrompton!
Thanks very much! Sounds good to me, and I have space in the main memory!
I will get on and download Opera mini !
Ofiaich

Opera Can Handle Regular Youtube!
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile). I say this because i tested it for myself, a while ago on my mda vario or vario 2 (sorry cant remember). What seemed to be a slight problem though was, it ran out of memory frequently (ram) and as such the program would not start if other applications were running in the background.
Opera users on WM6, your reviews and thoughts on this are much appreciated!

gogol;1566087 said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
??

jcrompton said:
Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
??
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I have Opera Mobile... Are ppl actually saying to try Opera Mini? I will if thats the case.. But it's made for phones not WM6 devices.
JB

opera mini? that's a java midlet. why wouldn't it work on the kaiser?

gogol said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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OK - so I just figured out how to get Opera Mini work via the Java app under programs -- have you been able to get email links and other http links to automatically be opened by Opera Mini - I made some registry changes to get Opera Mobile to be the default browser, can you get Opera Mini to do that ? (wasn't sure since it is buried as a Java program)

stryker1355 said:
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile).
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Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.

I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....Opera Mobile though is the bomb! I just wish it was free like the Mini version is, but it's good enough to pay for anyway. PIE just is not very good at rendering most webpages.

opera is very good browser but the built in pie some times show websites better than opera example http:\\www.xda-developers.com

maryjos said:
I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....
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I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike

Does opera support flash videos?

mikechannon said:
I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
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Are you able to "auto" load links like from an email

swamp2 said:
Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
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I just hit YouTube with Opera on mine and any 'watch now' links open the video for streaming in WMP. Is that normal?

Are you able to run the latest Opera Mini in your Tilt?

Hi,
I installed the latest Opera Mini, which I downloaded from their site.
Installation took a lot longer than on my hp ipaq hw6910 (WM5).
Further, when I tried running the app, it got stuck and did not proceed (the screen was white and showed a blue picture of something, can't remember what is was).
This version worked perfectly on my HW6910.
Does anyone know whether it's compatible with the Tilt?
Thank you.

Works fine on my HTC Kaiser (Original ROM).

Have you noticed the strange behavior that I described?
I have the original Tilt ROM, without the customizations.
Which version of Java do you have?
Thank you.

it worked fine on mine

I had the same problem on my Tilt. I just installed new JBED Java VM found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1781267&postcount=4

Thank you
I'll try that.

Also make sure you follow my articles; I've published a LOT of info on both Opera Mini and MIDlet managers like Jbed.

Menneisyys said:
Also make sure you follow my articles; I've published a LOT of info on both Opera Mini and MIDlet managers like Jbed.
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It's very interesting for me. But where can I read your articles? Thanks.

Menneisyys, I'll certainly do that
You know I'm a fan of yours, due to your infinite knowledge.

stavsky said:
It's very interesting for me. But where can I read your articles? Thanks.
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General forum here or the Wiki. I recommend the former because of the slightly better layout.

Pocket IE Version on Kaiser - Help Please

Hi All,
Long time reader first time poster.
My company is currently using the Dopod 838 pros for a mobile web app we are developing.
Unfortunately (well deneding on which way you look at it ) but we ordered 50 Dopod 838 pros but they could only fill have the order so we received 23 kaisers insted.
Problem with the Kaiser is that it has IEMobile 7.6 which does not handle AJAX as well as IEMobile 6.12 which comes with the Dopod 838pros.
Is there ANY way I can cook flash or downgrade IE mobile in this rom? or does anyone know of a CAB or Rom anywhere which will help me with this - it is driving me crazy and its critical
Regards,
Mr_Frost

Bumpski
48 Views - anyone have any hints or ideas to point me in the right direction.
Apologies for the bump.
Steve

What is the symptom that the later version of PIE gives?

unwired4 said:
What is the symptom that the later version of PIE gives?
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Basically I am trying to run a database online based on the ASP.Net makers generated software.
www.hkvstore.com/aspnetmaker
When I go to click save or cancel on a form - on the Dopod it works fine, on the Kaiser - it wont let me click on it. I have had a ASPX programmer look into it and its because the Kaiser Version handles the functionality different.
Do I need to install AJAX upgraed/ java upgrade for IE on the kaiser or something?

download Opera Browser doesn't help? Maybe Netfront Browser? Did you try those.

I am going to guess that opera will do it fine - but it costs...
Havent heard of an asp patch that will fix PIE.

Opera may be the only way to go... just frustrating
Anyone think installing a 838pro rom onto the kaiser would be a good idea hahah *clutches at straws*
Have tried the other browsers but found them clunky - i still prefer pocket IE for general surfing...

A mobile version of Firefox is about to come out, that (combined with Netfront) very well could force Opera to be free in the not too distant future; maybe even Firefox itself could run the database...
It IS very frustrating that PIE is so picky about things. I've noticed it through the years too, but let me qualify that: i don't program interfaces for it, I just have used it to surf the web over the years.
Good luck!

AJAX fully supported in PIE & has been for quite some time, befroe wm2003se I believe. How are you handling the java?
Mr_Frost said:
Basically I am trying to run a database online based on the ASP.Net makers generated software.
www.hkvstore.com/aspnetmaker
When I go to click save or cancel on a form - on the Dopod it works fine, on the Kaiser - it wont let me click on it. I have had a ASPX programmer look into it and its because the Kaiser Version handles the functionality different.
Do I need to install AJAX upgraed/ java upgrade for IE on the kaiser or something?
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GSLEON3 said:
AJAX fully supported in PIE & has been for quite some time, befroe wm2003se I believe. How are you handling the java?
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I dont know - is there a java update/ fix? I am assuming java is turned on - everything looks fine - its just the onclick/ submit function or something not working on the kaiser.

JAVA and Opera mini slow

Hi,
Yesterday I flashed Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588 to my Vodafone v1615 NL phone, only to discover that JAVA wasn't included. So I looked around in this wiki and found this link.
It links to several cabs of Esmertec Java which are supposedly the same as the ones included standard.
After installing I immediatly noticed that the splashscreen of the JAVA app wasn't very clear. The letters were grainy etc. I tried both with and without cleartype. I figured that it wouldn't matter. However, when I downloaded Opera Mini, I found that it was SLOW. And not only that, where I used to be able to pan around using my finger (ie swiping it over the screen to move the screen fluently) it now doesn't work. This is because of the lag there is. So on the original ROM it was able to pan without ANY problems. Does anybody have any idea how this problem can be fixed?
I tried all Esmertec cabs that were listed!
Thanks!

Confirm that Opera Mini is slow. I think Dutty is onto it on his fix/next ver.
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I have manage to fix the windows media player in the Rom, took ages to figure out,
I have added Remote Desktop and Esmertec java
poorlyduck diamond windows media player skin
I will create add on cabs for add on languages like gullums for diamond keyboard.
I'm still considering to remove the htc album out the rom, its very nice but a bit buggy for now,
everything remains the same, I might update the CE OS for next release
PS. IF ALL GOES GOOD I WILL RELEASE A CUBE AND LITE VERSION AS WELL
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Java

hi have 2 questions,
which java program is used by orange.uk?
where can i get it or other recomened java for tytn II?
all links for java downloads ive found are broken or removed due to licenseing issues

Here you go http://www.mediafire.com/?ihyz5mdgkdz

Thanks
Morst greatfull, is it availble without opera?

jr_enver said:
Morst greatfull, is it availble without opera?
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It may be i just haven't searched for one sinceI use opera mini whenever im on edge

who wouldn't want opera? it's wonderful

don't know if this one works but you can try it
http://www.4shared.com/file/83811628/e218d9e7/Intent_MIDlet_manager.html

Thanks again
Opera mobile is great, but doesn't run BBC Iplayer on my phone(all about SkyFire) and Opera mini.......not so much great

thanks for the posts
tried the java program from kaiserII101. downloads and installes fine but doesn't run the apps.
does anyone have a link to Esmertec Jbed without opera