Is it true that the HTC TyTN II will not work on the T-mobile's (US) 3g network once they launch it (supposedly sometime in the near future)?
I read this in a review but it seems strange that it would work on every other 3g in US and abroad except for T-mobile US.
If it is true, is this something that can be corrected with a rom swap or is it a hardware issue?
I typically don't like T-mobiles roms and would much rather have the HTC rom. Additionally, I don't want to wait for T-mobile US to release their variant.
Please say it isn't so.
resist said:
Is it true that the HTC TyTN II will not work on the T-mobile's (US) 3g network once they launch it (supposedly sometime in the near future)?
I read this in a review but it seems strange that it would work on every other 3g in US and abroad except for T-mobile US.
If it is true, is this something that can be corrected with a rom swap or is it a hardware issue?
I typically don't like T-mobiles roms and would much rather have the HTC rom. Additionally, I don't want to wait for T-mobile US to release their variant.
Please say it isn't so.
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This is correct. In the US, the phone's 3g will only work on AT&T's network. It is a hardware issue. Just like the different GSM bands.
I know it sucks, i just switched to att for this phone.
So, I guess the only choice is to either switch to AT&T now or wait for the T-mobile variant and then replace the rom with the HTC rom.
BTW: How is the AT&T rom (if anyone is using it). From the images I've seen, it looks much different. Looks like it doesn't have the HTC Home interface.
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Sprint Diamond is on the horizon as is the unlocked 3G US version.
I need some advice or opinions. Do I go to Sprint or is unlocked better?
I am thinking of Sprint because of Sprint TV and Sprint Navigator being built in although I do have Tomtom software and I do have a Slingplayer.
What do you think? Is it a better idea to have unlocked?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Darrin
elwuero said:
Sprint Diamond is on the horizon as is the unlocked 3G US version.
I need some advice or opinions. Do I go to Sprint or is unlocked better?
I am thinking of Sprint because of Sprint TV and Sprint Navigator being built in although I do have Tomtom software and I do have a Slingplayer.
What do you think? Is it a better idea to have unlocked?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Darrin
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Not sure if i understand your question correctly, but here goes.
The Sprint Diamond is CDMA. The unlocked 3G US version is GSM. Therefore if you have Sprint/Verizon the CDMA Diamond is your only choice. If you have a GSM carrier (phone has SIM card ie AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) then the unlocked 3G version is the way to go.
If you haven't choosen a carrier yet and want to know whether to go with CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) or GSM (everyone else) then a lot of factors come into play. I switched from AT&T to Sprint recently because I got on the Sero plan, the cost was too good to pass up, Sero it's probably the best plan available. I found Sprint TV somewhat useless since the quality isn't that great, the lineup was mediocre, and 99% of the time if i have the time to actually watch tv then i'm in a place that has a full size tv. Sprint Navigator is completely useless cause they'll probably try to charge you monthly for it even though the phone already has built in GPS, TomTom/Live Search/Google Maps are much better alternatives. Assuming reception is the same with all carriers in your area the only major downside i found with leaving GSM is the limited selection of phones. On Sprint/Verizon you are pretty much stuck with the phones they offer, whereas with GSM carriers as long as the phone supports the appropriate bands and is unlocked you can pop in your sim card and go which opens the door to european and asian phones.
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Not sure if i understand your question correctly, but here goes.
The Sprint Diamond is CDMA. The unlocked 3G US version is GSM. Therefore if you have Sprint/Verizon the CDMA Diamond is your only choice. If you have a GSM carrier (phone has SIM card ie AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) then the unlocked 3G version is the way to go.
If you haven't choosen a carrier yet and want to know whether to go with CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) or GSM (everyone else) then a lot of factors come into play. I switched from AT&T to Sprint recently because I got on the Sero plan, the cost was too good to pass up, Sero it's probably the best plan available. I found Sprint TV somewhat useless since the quality isn't that great, the lineup was mediocre, and 99% of the time if i have the time to actually watch tv then i'm in a place that has a full size tv. Sprint Navigator is completely useless cause they'll probably try to charge you monthly for it even though the phone already has built in GPS, TomTom/Live Search/Google Maps are much better alternatives. Assuming reception is the same with all carriers in your area the only major downside i found with leaving GSM is the limited selection of phones. On Sprint/Verizon you are pretty much stuck with the phones they offer, whereas with GSM carriers as long as the phone supports the appropriate bands and is unlocked you can pop in your sim card and go which opens the door to european and asian phones.
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I really appreciate the time you put into that response. I have ATT but can easily switch to Sprint. I have long travel times daily and will take advantage of the TV on my phone but as I said I do have a Slingbox.
I have noticed a lot of G-Sensor apps dont work on the CDMA Telus version so my guess is they might not initially on the Sprint version. I also think your point about having more choices in phones by being on GSM makes a lot of sense. Thank you again - your thoughts are well taken and I know it took you time to express it.
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I really appreciate the time you put into that response. I have ATT but can easily switch to Sprint. I have long travel times daily and will take advantage of the TV on my phone but as I said I do have a Slingbox.
I have noticed a lot of G-Sensor apps dont work on the CDMA Telus version so my guess is they might not initially on the Sprint version. I also think your point about having more choices in phones by being on GSM makes a lot of sense. Thank you again - your thoughts are well taken and I know it took you time to express it.
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If you're satisfied with your plan then i'd just stay with ATT. You'd probably get more use out of Slingbox than Sprint TV, plus you can always load vids onto storage memory. And being able to upgrade whenever you want really comes in handy with the way HTC keeps updating their phone lineup about every 6 months.
Hello I'm planning to buy the new htc touch pro2 when it comes out so my question is..I live in the U.S and I would like to buy the european touch pro2 so i was just wondering if i can use it with one of these networks verizon wireless/at&t/t-mobile/cingular or does it have to be a network from europe?
Thanks I appreciate it
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Hello I'm planning to buy the new htc touch pro2 when it comes out so my question is..I live in the U.S and I would like to buy the european touch pro2 so i was just wondering if i can use it with one of these networks verizon wireless/at&t/t-mobile/cingular or does it have to be a network from europe?
Thanks I appreciate it
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You can use it with some networks (Not CMDA) and you´ll loose 3G pretty sure (Unless htc develops an american version)
However I´m using my Uni in Mexico since 2005 and works well on my carrier (www.telcel.com) and I can´t connect to 3G, but personally not care as long as I have WIFI or WIMAX wich I do.
Good day,
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You can use it with some networks (Not CMDA) and you´ll loose 3G pretty sure (Unless htc develops an american version)
However I´m using my Uni in Mexico since 2005 and works well on my carrier (www.telcel.com) and I can´t connect to 3G, but personally not care as long as I have WIFI or WIMAX wich I do.
Good day,
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Thank you for your answer...i know people with a htc tytn II (european version) and they are using at&t but the 3g doesnt work...I'm sure at&t and t-mobile will work but not verizon am I right? Thanks!
For usa: 1900/2100=3g - 1800/1900=no 3g
Inmortal said:
Thank you for your answer...i know people with a htc tytn II (european version) and they are using at&t but the 3g doesnt work...I'm sure at&t and t-mobile will work but not verizon am I right? Thanks!
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Yes sir, you are right. Verizon, Sprint and others use CDMA technology, wich is different from AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. that use GSM. If you don't know how to tell the diff, it's pretty simple....SIM card=GSM, NON SIM card=CDMA.
Also the US network uses UMTS/HSDPA (850/900/1900/2100 MHz), while the European network works on 850/900/1800/1900 MHz.
So, if you buy the touch pro2 you won't get 3G in USA, unless AT&T come out with......let's say something like "FUZE 2" or I read somewhere that the name was revealed already (but don't remember).
Hi,
I am new user and want to get the HTC Touch Diamond 2 ( Topaz ) next week. My current provider is AT&T.
I found some decent deals on eBay, but one seller wrote back saying that this phone is 100% working with AT&T and I only have to switch my SIM card out. Except for 3G....... he said, 3G won't work.
So my question is : Why would 3G not work ? Is this a phone normally used for other providers or is the 3G just turned off ? If so, can 3G be turned on easily via a hack or something ? I don't get it.
Thanks for helping.
JCE
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the phone is 3G capable but I dont think the providers support it in your country.
If you are talking about AT&T in the USA, yeah 3G doesn't seem to work for me. I think the specific atenna range for 3G is not the one AT&T uses. I might be wrong though and just haven't seen a 3G link since its rare in my area and I don't use data that much. The best I can get is Edge.
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If you are talking about AT&T in the USA, yeah 3G doesn't seem to work for me. I think the specific atenna range for 3G is not the one AT&T uses. I might be wrong though and just haven't seen a 3G link since its rare in my area and I don't use data that much. The best I can get is Edge.
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America doesn't use the same 3G frequencies.., Europe 900/1200. America 850/whatever else. These phones are Euro 3G frequencies only so the best you'll get is GSM, which is quad band (i.e. work everywhere).
If you're cool with that that's fine, but when my phone drops from 3G to GSM I find it pretty unbearable (think dial up days).
jce2005 said:
Hi,
I am new user and want to get the HTC Touch Diamond 2 ( Topaz ) next week. My current provider is AT&T.
I found some decent deals on eBay, but one seller wrote back saying that this phone is 100% working with AT&T and I only have to switch my SIM card out. Except for 3G....... he said, 3G won't work.
So my question is : Why would 3G not work ? Is this a phone normally used for other providers or is the 3G just turned off ? If so, can 3G be turned on easily via a hack or something ? I don't get it.
Thanks for helping.
JCE
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Unfortunatley I don't think our phones support it. Here is my original post with the same question from May:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512828
I bought my HD2 from Telstra to use on AT&T. When I received it I couldn't get it to work on AT&T with the factory ROM and had to HSPL/Reflash it. What are the thought on the HD7 from Telstra working with an AT&T sim on the AT&T network? I would really hate to go back to a smaller screen and honestly the surround seems a bit kitchy.
You probably will have to have it sim unlocked. Thats easier than flashing a rom, but with WP7 I don't know.
i want to do the same thing i need an HD7 on at&t
i am on the same page
I am using a telstra hd2 on us att 3g, i switch between wm 6.5.x and android 2.2 desire rom, i've been using android a lot more lately, because i got tired of squeezing functionality out of winmo when its already there with android (tired of second rate facebook, foursquare apps etc ), alas i really want WP7 to succeed and will be there to support it, but i do not want to downgrade to a smaller device to stay on at&t, I have a cheap unlimited data plan (at&t thinks im using a
little nokia phone for data), the A list where i use my google voice for calls and have accrued over 3,000 roll over minutes,so it looks like ill be forking over $800 bucks again for a telstra hd7 if that's the case, i imagine though when i sell my unlocked hd2 running on att 3g network with dual operating systems i may get a decent penny on ebay to contribute towards the telstra hd7 purchase
and also has anyone else using this phone have found little support for those running android on it or anything else? sometimes i feel like im the only guy in the united states with a telstra hd2 and everyone else is using the tmo usa one, all the forums talk about the euro hd2 and the tmo usa one
im in the same boat, but with Bell in canada..i use the Telstra HD2 and from the looks of things were just getting the LG with the keyboard and a 3.5in screen..looks awful. im hoping the same with the HD7, just a matter of whether they can be sim unlocked. ill be keeping my eye on it and hoping for the best anyway.
Is it telstra even getting the hd7?
Seems like Telstra will be getting the HD7 exclusively in 2011 similar to what happened with the HD2.
Launch availability will be T-Mobile(US) O2(England/Germany) and SingTel(Singapore) none of which support UMTS/HSDPA 850.
Strange because according to these guys the HD7 will be coming to Telstra in November: http://smarthouse.com.au/Phones/Mobile/X6L9N4K3
And for those of us that bought the Telstra HD2 we may recall the device came factory unlocked. Great for me as I'm using it on Telus in Toronto, Canada.
I looked at our launch line up here as well and our choices are pretty weak. I've read someone confirmed the Dell Venue Pro will work for us on the North American bands. That's my second choice.
But I think the HD7 from Telstra will be good to go. Except we'll be stuck with a Telstra Hub until someone figures out how to flash new roms lol..
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Strange because according to these guys the HD7 will be coming to Telstra in November: http://smarthouse.com.au/Phones/Mobile/X6L9N4K3
And for those of us that bought the Telstra HD2 we may recall the device came factory unlocked. Great for me as I'm using it on Telus in Toronto, Canada.
I looked at our launch line up here as well and our choices are pretty weak. I've read someone confirmed the Dell Venue Pro will work for us on the North American bands. That's my second choice.
But I think the HD7 from Telstra will be good to go. Except we'll be stuck with a Telstra Hub until someone figures out how to flash new roms lol..
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You can uninstall the operator's hub, it'll just come back at each hard reset
front facing camera?
is it possible to find someone who can install a front facing camera as well? I would pay who ever could do it, it can be done with the samsung vibrant, it is really disappointing there is no ffc installed
and now im worried once i import the hd7 from telstra will there be roms that i can use to remove the telstra hub and skins? I doubt a hard reset will remove this, we are all venturing into new ground here indeed
there are no skins, and the carrier apps can be uninstalled
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Strange because according to these guys the HD7 will be coming to Telstra in November: http://smarthouse.com.au/Phones/Mobile/X6L9N4K3
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According to this article "Unfortunately the elusive HTC HD7 is not available at launch. It’s officially slated to be available exclusively through Telstra next year in 2011. You would be wise to bet the first half of the year."
I honestly believe it will be worth the wait.
Were you able to use your Telstra HD2 on AT&T straight out of the box? I ask this because I could not. It was indeed sim unlocked, but didn't work for me. Granted I only tested it once and then HSPL/Flash to NRG.
-Brad
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You can uninstall the operator's hub, it'll just come back at each hard reset
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When you say "uninstall" I assume then you mean just remove their hub from the homescreen without actually uninstalling their software.
bworls said:
According to this article "Unfortunately the elusive HTC HD7 is not available at launch. It’s officially slated to be available exclusively through Telstra next year in 2011. You would be wise to bet the first half of the year."
I honestly believe it will be worth the wait.
Were you able to use your Telstra HD2 on AT&T straight out of the box? I ask this because I could not. It was indeed sim unlocked, but didn't work for me. Granted I only tested it once and then HSPL/Flash to NRG.
-Brad
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Odd that on the same day 2 different stories would be printed. One saying it's available next month, the other saying next year. Guess we'll know for sure by November if it doesn't actually arrive.
For me personally it worked on the Telus network right out of the box, even before I HSPL'd it. The only hassle was setting up the data and mms manually. But later I found a few custom roms that did that for me.
Review of the HD7 PCWorld AU
"This Telstra-exclusive Windows Phone 7 smartphone will launch in Australia in January 2011."
Anyone have a time machine?
The UK carrier O2 is also adding the HD7 to their line up for Oct. and has quad band GSM:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Oct2010/o2-add-htc-hd7-windows-phone-7-smartphone.html
Based on my previous knowledge of quad band phones it should support the more popular 850/900/1800/1900 bands.. that being said can someone with more knowledge than myself confirm whether this would work similarly to the Telstra version?
vetvito said:
You probably will have to have it sim unlocked. Thats easier than flashing a rom, but with WP7 I don't know.
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Actually flashing a ROM won't work. You can't unlock the SIM by flashing another ROM, you have to get the unlock code regardless.
Most carriers do it for free or you can find a site online that will do it for a charge.
The OS does not effect SIM UNLOCKING so I do not see any change with WP7
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The UK carrier O2 is also adding the HD7 to their line up for Oct. and has quad band GSM:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Oct2010/o2-add-htc-hd7-windows-phone-7-smartphone.html
Based on my previous knowledge of quad band phones it should support the more popular 850/900/1800/1900 bands.. that being said can someone with more knowledge than myself confirm whether this would work similarly to the Telstra version?
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GSM (2G) is 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSDPA (3G) is more than likely 900/2100 where AT&T is 850/1900
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GSM (2G) is 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSDPA (3G) is more than likely 900/2100 where AT&T is 850/1900
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Yeah I figured as much.. wishful thinking I guess. So we wait until January 2011
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Actually flashing a ROM won't work. You can't unlock the SIM by flashing another ROM, you have to get the unlock code regardless.
Most carriers do it for free or you can find a site online that will do it for a charge.
The OS does not effect SIM UNLOCKING so I do not see any change with WP7
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Do you know any reliable and trusted website? I don't mind paying I just want to be sure the site can do it.
Hello everyone,
I want to to know exactly how I can implement this to my HTC one however what I've been told is that what ever Sprint devices they have sold will not able to work on this new upgrade.
I've been chatting back and fourth with an employee and he says it's a gsm based 4g LTE that's works on hspa or something that uses 1900mhz bandwidth. With that said will I be able to go ahead and convert to what my carrier uses?
Another note, I've successfully SIM unlocked but haven't had a SIM to try it out if it is unlocked, in doing the unlock will I be able to utilize this update to my carriers data speeds? All the employee said as of right now Sprint branded devices are not able to be used with the upgraded network and it uses a gsm based 4g that uses 1900mhz bands. Quite a few people are pissed about this but their normal users and do not know about root and everything associated with it, to include SIM unlocking.
Another thing the employee mentioned was they are now selling HTC one m7 and m8 that are able to utilize the network, he says they are "generic" and Verizon, what I'm thinking that they are just global versions of the device, so who ever got Sprint branded phones are screwed cause they can't upgrade to the new network.
I am hoping I can use this new found boost in data speeds locally!!
v1ral said:
Hello everyone,
I want to to know exactly how I can implement this to my HTC one however what I've been told is that what ever Sprint devices they have sold will not able to work on this new upgrade.
I've been chatting back and fourth with an employee and he says it's a gsm based 4g LTE that's works on hspa or something that uses 1900mhz bandwidth. With that said will I be able to go ahead and convert to what my carrier uses?
Another note, I've successfully SIM unlocked but haven't had a SIM to try it out if it is unlocked, in doing the unlock will I be able to utilize this update to my carriers data speeds? All the employee said as of right now Sprint branded devices are not able to be used with the upgraded network and it uses a gsm based 4g that uses 1900mhz bands. Quite a few people are pissed about this but their normal users and do not know about root and everything associated with it, to include SIM unlocking.
Another thing the employee mentioned was they are now selling HTC one m7 and m8 that are able to utilize the network, he says they are "generic" and Verizon, what I'm thinking that they are just global versions of the device, so who ever got Sprint branded phones are screwed cause they can't upgrade to the new network.
I am hoping I can use this new found boost in data speeds locally!!
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County? City? State? You provided no information here. Also from the sounds of it NO you can not convert your phone. The bands 4G uses are limited by the hardware in them, if you bought a SPRINT CDMA phone in a foreign county no one screwed anyone except you screwing yourself. You should have bought the global version directly from HTC.
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County? City? State? You provided no information here. Also from the sounds of it NO you can not convert your phone. The bands 4G uses are limited by the hardware in them, if you bought a SPRINT CDMA phone in a foreign county no one screwed anyone except you screwing yourself. You should have bought the global version directly from HTC.
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Thanks.
I'm not in the states I'm located in Guam, I'm aware of the hardware limitations, but I'm wondering if the device will be able to pick up signal. I believe my carrier will be using hsdpa bands at 1900mhz and I'm under the impression that the Sprint use those
I am screwed as well as others that have gotten Sprint branded devices here, I feel for them but those people are normal users, that don't know rooting and what associated with it. I don't feel too bad about having this device at all, it's been working great, I was just waiting for my carrier to bring out something 3G data.
I was really banking on having it be able to get the upgraded speeds, and maybe help others who are on the same boat as me.
Thanks again!