AT&T Availability ? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

How will we know when it's available at AT&T ? Do they usually have a press release or something ? Should I just call the store periodically ?
Thanks

RacerX10 said:
How will we know when it's available at AT&T ? Do they usually have a press release or something ? Should I just call the store periodically ?
Thanks
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There's already a plenty of discussions. Please search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326634
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327590
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327425
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325658
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324966

None of that says how we'll know when it's available. No search needed.

RacerX10 said:
None of that says how we'll know when it's available. No search needed.
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Logic needed?
AT&T isn't going to send you a text message, they aren't going to call you, and they aren't going to show up at your home or work. You'll know when the Tilt/8925 is released with AT&T when it's either a) Posted here, b) You call or visit an AT&T store every day until it's released, or c) You visit AT&T's website until you see something posted on this particular subject.

evolution_theory said:
Logic needed?
AT&T isn't going to send you a text message, they aren't going to call you, and they aren't going to show up at your home or work. You'll know when the Tilt/8925 is released with AT&T when it's either a) Posted here, b) You call or visit an AT&T store every day until it's released, or c) You visit AT&T's website until you see something posted on this particular subject.
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What do you mean, they really wont send me a text message. What if I tell them that I really really want it?

Ok just got off the phone with HTC-americas main dealer and this is what he said after doing some checking. ATT gets it 1st witch we all knew already. Also it showed a Launch date of sept again we knew this.
With a bit more checking he said it showed in his comp that They will be selling it on the 14th with orders going out on the 18th meaning the 11th date could very well be the date ATT goes live with theres.
Again this is right from HTC sales site so info sould be correct.

magnamar said:
Ok just got off the phone with HTC-americas main dealer and this is what he said after doing some checking. ATT gets it 1st witch we all knew already. Also it showed a Launch date of sept again we knew this.
With a bit more checking he said it showed in his comp that They will be selling it on the 14th with orders going out on the 18th meaning the 11th date could very well be the date ATT goes live with theres.
Again this is right from HTC sales site so info sould be correct.
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Man, I just hope so! This wait has already devastated me. You guys won't believe how many times I check xda-developers and other discussion forums.

magnamar said:
Ok just got off the phone with HTC-americas main dealer and this is what he said after doing some checking. ATT gets it 1st witch we all knew already. Also it showed a Launch date of sept again we knew this.
With a bit more checking he said it showed in his comp that They will be selling it on the 14th with orders going out on the 18th meaning the 11th date could very well be the date ATT goes live with theres.
Again this is right from HTC sales site so info sould be correct.
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Please be right, please be right, please be right, sorry when Im desperate I tend to chant LOL

hehe im in the same boat as you guys are wanting one been useing a rokr for the past month sence my 8125 was killed waiting for the kaiser and its been killing me lol

Im awaitin on that there text mesage that that racer dude is sending out hehe no search needed.......man I wish someone would post something about the availibility of that kaiser phone....hehe what a funny post that was.
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Yup...really sick of my 8125..been browsing every site multiple times a day trying to find a hint of the actual release. Really itching to get this phone!

Are some of you people stupid, or are you unable to read.
My question had NOTHING to do with "when will it be available"
My question had EVERYTHING to do with "what sort of notification will there be"
I'm merely looking for some input from people who have been around for previous phone launches (8125,8525) and have experience with
how AT&T did their release.
jeebus
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RacerX10 said:
Are some of you people stupid, or are you unable to read.
My question had NOTHING to do with "when will it be available"
My question had EVERYTHING to do with "what sort of notification will there be"
I'm merely looking for some input from people who have been around for previous phone launches (8125,8525) and have experience with
how AT&T did their release.
jeebus
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Writing things like that to people who are experienced with phone launches is not the way to invite their help. You asked for advice and they gave it. Can't we all just get along? We are all excited with the release of such a marvelous creation
Btw...Hello fellow members!

Here let me put this a way you can understand then.
You will know when you see it up on there site. If you dont know where to look then just ask rather then being a Jackass about it. on the ATT site click support then forums there is a section called announcements it will be post there.
Also you can visit the HTC americas site to see when its live here. Noone is going to hold your hand and txt call or whatever you when its avil you will eather A. have to wait till someone takes pity on you and post here or B. be a big boy and learn to check there sites for yourself.

RacerX10 said:
Are some of you people stupid, or are you unable to read.
My question had NOTHING to do with "when will it be available"
My question had EVERYTHING to do with "what sort of notification will there be"
I'm merely looking for some input from people who have been around for previous phone launches (8125,8525) and have experience with
how AT&T did their release.
jeebus
<sigh>
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Rule #422 dont be an asshole. If you post a question such as this at a time like this it is bound to go off topic at some point. However calling people "stupid" or say they cant read just makes you sound like an idiot yourself. Speaking as a fellow noob, I will say that this site has been the best resource I have found anywhere...period. So my advice is dont be rude simply because it went off topic.
Now in regard to your question on at&t previous launches, they suck. I followed the 8125 for a while but was new and didnt really know what I was missing so I at least wasnt losing my mind. The 8525 on the other hand was a different story, lost my freaking mind. I watched several supposed launch dates come and go and it was finally released in November. My way of dealing with this is just have fun with it, trust that it will be worth it, and save some extra cash back while waiting. I personally dont believe we'll see it as soon as everyone thinks though. I hope Im wrong but you could just call it a gut feeling.

swtaltima said:
Now in regard to your question on at&t previous launches, they suck. I followed the 8125 for a while but was new and didnt really know what I was missing so I at least wasnt losing my mind. The 8525 on the other hand was a different story, lost my freaking mind. I watched several supposed launch dates come and go and it was finally released in November. My way of dealing with this is just have fun with it, trust that it will be worth it, and save some extra cash back while waiting. I personally dont believe we'll see it as soon as everyone thinks though. I hope Im wrong but you could just call it a gut feeling.
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Thanks amigo, I appreciate the info. I guess I was just wondering if they'd make it obvious when it was available (web site update) or if you had to go looking for one (calling around to different stores, etc)
Have a good one,
DLD

RacerX10 said:
Thanks amigo, I appreciate the info. I guess I was just wondering if they'd make it obvious when it was available (web site update) or if you had to go looking for one (calling around to different stores, etc)
Have a good one,
DLD
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Trust me, you will know when AT&T releases this phone! With so much hype just about the rumor dates, imagine when it finally gets released. You won't even have to check their website or visit a store, you will just about see it everywhere.

I hope that it doesn't cost a but load for the service. think Tmobile will get it any time in the next two years? I like Tmobile because I can tweak my plan and have more freedom it feels like; off topic, yes, but why not chat since nobody knows the answer to the thread other than soon

well - in the SF Bay area a rep checked and said she couldnt say when it was going to be released.. after a little pressing she mentioned end of the month was all she could say.
for all its worth

I was speaking with an HTC US customer service rep about my new TYTN II that I had just received and he said "did you know AT&T is releasing it on Oct 1?"
for what it's worth

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Rom Upgrades MDA Vario

Hi all,
I have been reading alot about the comments every one seems to making regarding the MDA Vario (unlocking or rom upgrading)
I have the latest unlocking including (CID) and i also have the latest upgrades too.
These are the full updated versions which will also change the country settings from other countrys to the full english version.
If required you can buy the cd's off me for a small price via paypal which will include full instructions with the unlocking software and upgrades, which all work 100% as i have done 14 so far with no problems.
This software will NOT change youe imei as it is against the law to do so.
you can pay me via paypal and leave your address in the comments section of your payment > £5.00 to [email protected] <
I hope this will help out some of you with problems.
Regards to all,
Jerry
What da f**k is this? Are you trying make money with the hard work of the genious of this forum?
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
just too lame for words
dcoelho said:
What da f**k is this? Are you trying make money with the hard work of the genious of this forum?
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
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I think you have a problem, i will post what i want i have forgoten more then you will ever know about mobile communications i have spent the last 27yrs in the communication world, i have worked for motorola, phillips , nokia, in hitech deparments.
You are more then welcome to visit my company here in the united kingdom so you can take it any way you want to, but think what you say before you engadge your mouth with your brain.
We also devolope software and hardware for the mobile world, and some ones software dont work we then fixit or recomend it not to be used at no cost you see we also do things for free.
So what have you to offer then! apart from rude comments which just shows to me your stupidity.
We welcome all genuine comments and we do reply to all emails here at
JKS Communications
So who are you! what do you know about cellular equipment proberly nothing i guess so why dont you keep reading your comics and leave those alone who know what they are doing.
For what i am offering as a sevice has abserlutly nothing to do with you so keep it out.
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just too lame for words
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And your comments to lame for words is this a adult site or is it run by kids!
If your comment wasent aimed at me then sorry for the reply, but if it is then it is no concern of yours if you want the software with a backup service then please ask.
There are people on this forum who are have bad problems with this type of equipment and paying a small charge for what is offered is really to cheap but we at JKS Communications are not to greedy as we have tested and tested again to make sure that every thing we sell is 100% because i can assure that alot of the upgrades and unlocking software isnt safe to use.
If you know anthing about mobile communications you would know this, i have 5 tech guys who work for me full time as we cover most makes on the market and currently have around 400+gig of firmware/software going back to the early tac units all the way to the present day also we have the latest equipment around which run into thousends of pounds, 27yrs i have been in the mobile communications world so i know what i am talking about.
Like i said at the start if your comment wasent directed to me then i apologise for the comments i have made.
And if it was then you are not interested in what i can offer then keep your comments to yourself please.
Regards,
Jerry (JKS Communications)
I just think it's funny that you came to a self help site, phishing for business. lol What's even funnier is, I bet everything on the CD is something that's found right in the forums. Even if it may not be the same things, it's probably something similar.
Mi|enko said:
I just think it's funny that you came to a self help site, phishing for business. lol What's even funnier is, I bet everything on the CD is something that's found right in the forums. Even if it may not be the same things, it's probably something similar.
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Hi,
Maybe so that most thing can be found on the internet but do they do what is claimed most dont.
And as fishing for business as you put it how can offering a service to help out those to who have tried out various software and are still having problems with phone's pda's ect which have a street price of around £375.
It seems to me that some find my offer affends if that is the case i will withdraw what i am offering and put the offer on my own website we just thought it would help out as most of the links are dead one's, and some of the programes offered for free are hacked and they do damage to your phone when used we know this as we have a lot of software that we have download for free and it is a waste of time.
As for the software being free on the net which is on the cd well the unlocking programe is and works 100% every time, but the main files for upgrading cost us money one of the files is a full version in english the latest microsoft windows v5 please tell me where i can download that for free not the simple rom update but the full Os system!.
Regards,
Jerry
Rippers !
A tipical ripper, this "company" JKS or whatever fancy name they choose.
Let's not get bothered by them
Maybe they even find some dumbo using their ripping service
Tough luck for the dumbos
Cheers
hrb
hrb said:
A tipical ripper, this "company" JKS or whatever fancy name they choose.
Let's not get bothered by them
Maybe they even find some dumbo using their ripping service
Tough luck for the dumbos
Cheers
hrb
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Well this is the funiest yet, how can you call me a ripper? and it isnt a fancy name eather it was formed in 1987 proberly older then you currently are, you dont live in this country according to your details and i can't see how you can pass comment when you have no idear to what you are talkin about you are a class 1 PRATT just go back to school.
Any way you also talk about " Let's not get bothered by them" well it seems to me that you are bothered if you dont want to have any of our services and what we can stand by, them MIND UR F * * K I N G BUSINESS
Have a nice day!
It's very sad to see that some nitwit takes free software from this site and tries to sell it. We see too many fricking a-holes on ebay doing the same thing.
someone will buy the cd that he claims can do most things that we cant and then post here......and the funny thing is the person will claim that he found how to this and that.
Same here to you!
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
JKS_COMMS said:
Well this is the funiest yet, how can you call me a ripper? and it isnt a fancy name eather it was formed in 1987 proberly older then you currently are, you dont live in this country according to your details and i can't see how you can pass comment when you have no idear to what you are talkin about you are a class 1 PRATT just go back to school.
Any way you also talk about " Let's not get bothered by them" well it seems to me that you are bothered if you dont want to have any of our services and what we can stand by, them MIND UR F * * K I N G BUSINESS
Have a nice day!
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I don't think I could buy software from a person that uses the words "proberly" and "idear". . . Who's he think he is, telling others to "go back to school"? lol
igadgetman said:
It's very sad to see that some nitwit takes free software from this site and tries to sell it. We see too many fricking a-holes on ebay doing the same thing.
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Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
JKS_COMMS said:
Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
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The only thing with that is, anybody in this section of the forum already has WM5 preinstalled on their device. And we can just strip out whatever we don't want installed. I'm failing to see the benefit of anybody in the "Wizard" area of the forums buying WM5 from you. By the way, I'd also like to point out that normally, in any business, there's always some kind of customer service and professionalism. You may want to do some research into that. I know that, from most of my experiences, if you have a problem, the company gives you sympathy. If you disagree with a policy, most companies would at the very least apologize about the way things are. You, my friend, act as a douche for your company. Only, in this instance, you're flushing out business. ~sniff~ Ah, the smell of vinegar in the night air. . .
JKS_COMMS said:
Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
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it spells "genuine", not "geuine"
So: back to school, ripper !
So JKS_COMMS, where exactly are you based ?
USA ? (Your Flag)
Albania ? (Your Provider)
UK - (Your e-mail Address is btinternet.com)
How long has your "company" been in operation ?
Are you UK VAT Registered ?
Is any of the software on the CD copyrighted / GNU licence etc ?
Also your a very new user here on xda-developers (under JKS_COMMS you only reg'd on 21-10-2006), only 6 posts (all of these in this thread) I doubt anyone is going to take you seriously.
Got to say this all sounds a bit fishy to me, do you really think ANYONE here with half a brain will send you a fiver - sounds like a bit of a scam to me so maybe this thread needs reporting to a MOD.
Filnet
igadgetman said:
It's very sad to see that some nitwit takes free software from this site and tries to sell it. We see too many fricking a-holes on ebay doing the same thing.
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What a pratt,
The software i hve didnt come from this site nor ebay as i dont have an account.
You are such a plank i can see now this forum has got A holes in it and plenty of them who can always pass comment well you can shove it, i got the software it's 100% perfect and works great but thanks to you bunch of upstarts who like to see other members suffer as the software you find on the net isnt that good thats why it is free.
All mine is 100% genuine
have a good one looser
filnet said:
So JKS_COMMS, where exactly are you based ?
USA ? (Your Flag)
Albania ? (Your Provider)
UK - (Your e-mail Address is btinternet.com)
How long has your "company" been in operation ?
Are you UK VAT Registered ?
Is any of the software on the CD copyrighted / GNU licence etc ?
Also your a very new user here on xda-developers (under JKS_COMMS you only reg'd on 21-10-2006), only 6 posts (all of these in this thread) I doubt anyone is going to take you seriously.
Got to say this all sounds a bit fishy to me, do you really think ANYONE here with half a brain will send you a fiver - sounds like a bit of a scam to me so maybe this thread needs reporting to a MOD.
Filnet
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Hi,
there is nothing fishy here all my software is 100% i had to pay for it which was more then a fiver, so i thought i would help some one out on here with support to help them get there mda sorted and running 100% so i didnt think it was to much to ask, but as you can see it is wrong of me to offer this software at this price so i wont it do not bother me.
Have a good one.
for someone with the vocabulary of a 9 year old, he sure does seem confident in his ability to produce working software. As for wm5 being pad for, it does NOT require a cdkey. OEM's that resell it sometimes (I have heard of one) that has added a cdkey to it to it and it was compared to a hardware id. As for a place you can find a full wm5..... everywhere?

HTC Video driver.. someone started developing?

is someone started building a driver for us?
how far in progress?
I would like to add a subject to this thread.
I also would like to know about driver development, but I'm also wondering when Htc will release the new cab. They said it would be end of march. Its almost the end of march and didnt hear from them. Is there anyone who knows about these two subjects
wim26 said:
I would like to add a subject to this thread.
I also would like to know about driver development, but I'm also wondering when Htc will release the new cab. They said it would be end of march. Its almost the end of march and didnt hear from them. Is there anyone who knows about these two subjects
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wiebenik said:
is someone started building a driver for us?
how far in progress?
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Wow apparently it's hard for you guys to read the sticky's above this. There's a whole thread on this subject.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
I spent countless hours on the phone with att but they would not give me unlock code for my tilt. They say I have to be with att service for at least 3 month before i can unlock it. Please send me that code, I'm going to Germany in April and would use my phone there instead of renting one.
His code won't work for your phone. Each phone has an individual code. At&t has them for their branded phones. It's related to your IMEI. You'll have to get it another way. Maybe buy it from them?
P.S. Your phone will work as-is in Germany with At&t. There will probably be extra charges but the phone itself will work just fine anywhere in the world through At&t's service. Ask At&t what charges would apply.
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It's supposed to be MacGyver.....
this is the subject on the thread now. nothing to do with drivers. nobody on the thread has any information on development. i looks to me there will not be a new driver.
in the thread they will not discus any update on htc. i also cant find it anywhere. so if you ask me. i would think htc also doesnt do anything. no driver no cab.
OMG!
Wow, a doubly redundant thread.
Both video drivers & unlocking have numerous existing threads..
"You are the weakest Link... Good Bye!"

diamond unlock free

I posted links to a free Diamond unlocker on here last week and subsequently recieved a 7 day ban.
The ban stated the reason was "posting other peoples work".
I didnt know if the software was working,fake,safe or easy to use as my device is already unlocked but in the nature of xdadev forums i posted it in case it was of use to anybody.
I most definately didnt claim the software as my own nor did i try to profit from the work of others.
I guess it upset somebody as like i said i recieved a weeks ban for my efforts which i think was kinda harsh considering.
Wouldve have been a bit more civil to have just removed the post,links and PMed asking/demanding that i dont post the software here or anywhere else and i would have happily complied.
**** i still dont know who banned me and for what reason exactly but i aint complaining about a poxy 7 day ban that was easily bypassed by logging in as a guest to browse the forums, just wouldve been nice to been asked a question before being shot.
Just for the record
If your post was legitimate (which I don't know if it was), surely somebody was jealous and wanted his own work promoted.
Wouldn't surprise me if he even wants money for it.
It's cuz the devs are charging money for unlocking the devices. They say it will be free later, so I guess until then nobody else can start giving out codes for free.
There's a couple of posts about it in the ROM Dev thread
adwinp said:
If your post was legitimate (which I don't know if it was), surely somebody was jealous and wanted his own work promoted.
Wouldn't surprise me if he even wants money for it.
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Yea thats what happened as far as I can see.
The software I aquired is being sold by the dev/devs which is fair enough if they feel its worth the asking price and theres a market then **** it
let them eat cake.
My reason for this post was just that I didnt care for the way the matter was dealt with by banning me with out so much as a valid reason or reply to my attempts to contact them over the last week.
I also posted to state the fact that i didnt claim the software to be mine or attempt to gain financial or kudos rewards for the post.
If like I stated I had been approached with the facts rather than just getting banned I would have happily removed the link and file from my hosting and even blagged that the software I had was a fake if that would have appeased the powers that be and kept the coin rolling in for the dev/devs.
The fact is the unlock solution is now in the wild and its probably pissed on theyre chips.
Also im now getting unsolicited PMs asking for the software and I aint the ignorant type.
I can understand people being pissed off as i was unintentionaly offering for free what they was selling but i just think the matter could have been dealt with differently.
Fex
I think that the software author in general has the right to ask for a remuneration for his hard work, if he feels like it.
I know exactly the feeling.
But what bothers me, is exactly what you've described: the WAY it's been delt with.
adwinp said:
I think that the software author in general has the right to ask for a remuneration for his hard work, if he feels like it.
I know exactly the feeling.
But what bothers me, is exactly what you've described: the WAY it's been delt with.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you mate which is why like I mentioned If I had been informed I would have if able to, happily taken measures to repair and repent my minor discretion
I understand where you’re coming from innocent until proven guilty and all that. But, sh*t happens then you die... so don’t worry about it.
fex said:
The fact is the unlock solution is now in the wild and its probably pissed on theyre chips.
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I also agree with you regarding the unlocker is out in the wild. It’s available on bit torrent and various online forums mostly in foreign languages...
I do like the idea that they have come up with which is to give it out for free to people who support this site and charge the ones that don’t as its most likely these people who will go on to profit out of the software by selling it on as a service.
hint hint:
well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.
im sure someone in this forum selling that...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835 see the link and any question of who banned you will be solved my friend...
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hint hint:
well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.
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I already found it.... used it... and... IT WORKS!...
Just unlocked 16 Diamonds from Portuguese TMN!...
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hint hint:
well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.
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Well, found it as well, cheers!
instructions within
can anyone assist with a bit more user friendly instructions for the above topic, and do i need to use an xp system rather than my vista device?
all help would be appreciated.
cheers
help....
can someone supply better instructions, for this unlocker....
Works on Vista Ultimate Perfectly!
The unlocker works on vista. I should know. It worked perfectly on my phone.
The last step's hit and miss. For some reason (i'm guessing the dev had a twisted sense of humor), the app'll close instantly unless you try and freeze it open. The best way to do this is launch diamunlock.exe and press the UP button on your phone REPEATEDLY. After about 5-10 tries, the program will stay open and you can take your time.
I do admire what the dev was doing by selling this but TBH from what i've seen about XDA-Dev, software is given away and donations are asked for later. This new approach of charge first and that's it, while expected, doesn't seem to fit with the ethos of xda-dev and as such, i don't feel like i should promote it by paying for the software.
Now if it had been donationware? Hell yeah you best believe i'd have sent 10-20 bucks the dev's way.
Hy,
With this solution I've unlocked severall phones, and since I believe that knollege should be payed, I've given already 2 donations to this forum in general... of course I refuse to pay to anyone in specific if the solution is out for free!...
And I think everyone should recognise this forum's usefullness with some sort of donation, either knollege or money.
BR
Well, this thread surely doesnt serve any purpose other than simply gossiping (in a polite language) about someone else's work around here. So thread closed and I dont think its wrong. Will be moved to trash soon, just wanting the OP to take his time and read this post. PM a MOD if you feel otherwise

Why can we check for updates once every 24 hours?

Title! Coming from symbian we could check for updates whenever we wanted to.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
why cant we tether with at&t? why have they moved their data down to 2gb from 5? why do we have at&t programs that we are not supposed to uninstall? how come every time i go into at&t and ask about 2.2 and they tell me samsung reps say next week? (that's been for 4 weeks now).
REASON:
AT&T likes to piss us off.....
At least that's the only plausible reason I can think of....
Real answer: ATT loves the iphone, and only the iphone.
Because the Android update goes through AT&T servers and they don't want to get hammered? I think it's dumb sure - but it is one of the few smart things AT&T has done.
The iPhone uses iLuserTunes which goes through Apple's network for pushing updates etc..
I renamed /dbdata/databases/wssdmdatabase.db and rebooted and was able to try to d/l again. The file was then recreated.
YMMV you brick it, you did it.
Also does fota use our data or is it like" free"
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...you guys didnt read many of the update threads I guess? If you go into your date settings and move the date up a day, it will allow you to check again.
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Title! Coming from symbian we could check for updates whenever we wanted to.
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Uhhhh, its because they don't want everyone at the same time downloading android to crash their servers, I figured that one was pretty self explanatory, and the reason the att store reps keep telling you the wrong date is.... BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW. ATT store reps are not kept in the loop about ANYTHING. They don't know when phones will be released, they dont know when their shipments are coming in, so how would they know when a company is gonna release 2.2 when we cant even get that information directly from the company ourselves.
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...you guys didnt read many of the update threads I guess? If you go into your date settings and move the date up a day, it will allow you to check again.
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Nope, saw that, figured settings had to be in a db somewhere since android is so db centric. Now maybe someone with app experience can build a app to fix the last updated time in this db for us for next time.
why is this thread in the "android development" subforum in the first place? and not the "captivate general" forum. Theres like 3-4 threads already started in the general.
Reefermattness said:
Uhhhh, its because they don't want everyone at the same time downloading android to crash their servers, I figured that one was pretty self explanatory, and the reason the att store reps keep telling you the wrong date is.... BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW. ATT store reps are not kept in the loop about ANYTHING. They don't know when phones will be released, they dont know when their shipments are coming in, so how would they know when a company is gonna release 2.2 when we cant even get that information directly from the company ourselves.
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I know but its funny to hear them act like they have inside scoop. That's why I always ask.

How do I downgrade to 2.1?

I have the cognition beta5 installed right now and I would like to go back to 2.1 becouse my market downloads are slow very slow and my battery drains too. Is there a super noob way to down grade and if u could please tell me exactly step by step thx
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You got cognition on your phone, so you must have visited the developer forum...
Have you even tried to find the answer on your own? I know you are asking for help, but didn't you look up "how to restore to stock" before you started? What if there is no way - like on some other phones? Why would you do a major mod, without looking up how to go back before you even started?
Try the first post in the developer section - the stickied one - the captivate bible.
Look for odin one click to down grade. I believe there is a thread dedicated to it. I've noticed some off things in the market but nothing worth downgrading for.
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Alphadog I know it can be downgraded but I could not find the post that says how it can be done thats why I asked
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I must agree with what Alphadog said. You did not even bother to search. If you did there's absolutely no reason why this thread would be here. It's on the first page of the Android Development Section of these forums. You can't fricking miss it. But because you did, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
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You got cognition on your phone, so you must have visited the developer forum...
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Stewart, shut up and stop flaming before you get banned. Just some friendly advice. You might just want to edit out that last post of yours.
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stewart must be a tard
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miztaken1312 said:
Stewart, shut up and stop flaming before you get banned. Just some friendly advice. You might just want to edit out that last post of yours.
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You can't be banned from a site like this, if so you just open up another user name and email....come on guys you must be new, but just for you i will delete it, i just hate when a new person gets on here and is treated like dirt. The guy asked a simple question...just answer "yes or no" thats it no need for the "extra advise" especially if you can't be nice about it. Besides how do you know the guy never bothered to search...thats an assumption on your part and when you assume you just...well you know. Don't assume just answer the question without being a jerk about it. A smart comment can be hidden behind what was suppose to be "friendly advise" and it's plain to see that this alpha dog was being smart assuming that the guy had not done his homework before making changes to his phone. At the end of the day...this release was not a good release, as we can see a lot of members on this site are having problems with their phones now. This is phone hacking using an leaked aka stolen version of froyo 2.2 that was patched together. We all took a chance and downloaded it at our own risk and now some members are paying for it because that's what happens when you accept stolen merchandise sometimes there are consequenses. Once you download this version of froyo the android market does not recognize the new version of the firmware and so a lot of apps are no longer available for you on the market unless you uninstall it put your phone back to eclair 2.1 and then try to access the market to find you missing apps. Now there is an Official version of froyo that is going to be released and anyone who downloaded the leaked aka stolen version will not and i repeat will not get the ota update from att this has been stated because the att server no longer recognizes your phones firmware version. Once again you will have to use your USB cable and pray that the "iffy" samsung keis application will see your phones stolen firmware and allow you to update to the leagle version of froyo 2.2 that should be a lot more stable then the the leaked...aka stolen version that everyone fell for.
These things are always "install at your own risk". If you screw it up, be prepared to figure out how to fix it. What Alphadog was trying to get at, is that if you just search, heck you don't even need to do that as all the answers are on the first page of the Dev subforum, you can figure out how to do it. He's also right in saying people need to do their homework before they mod their phone. You NEED a plan. You need to know how to be able to start anew should something get borked or you need to return it or something else.
It is irritating lately that these forums have been getting filled with really nooby questions like how to assign a picture to a contact. If everyone would spend some time using the phone or using google or searching the forums, the answer would be blatantly obvious. I think for the most part we're all just fed up with these questions, but instead of "being smart assed" about it and flaming, we just need to ignore the thread and let someone else deal with it.
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These things are always "install at your own risk". If you screw it up, be prepared to figure out how to fix it. What Alphadog was trying to get at, is that if you just search, heck you don't even need to do that as all the answers are on the first page of the Dev subforum, you can figure out how to do it. He's also right in saying people need to do their homework before they mod their phone. You NEED a plan. You need to know how to be able to start anew should something get borked or you need to return it or something else.
It is irritating lately that these forums have been getting filled with really nooby questions like how to assign a picture to a contact. If everyone would spend some time using the phone or using google or searching the forums, the answer would be blatantly obvious. I think for the most part we're all just fed up with these questions, but instead of "being smart assed" about it and flaming, we just need to ignore the thread and let someone else deal with it.
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That is true...or people who tend to be arogant in their thinking and looking down on folks who are not able to figure it out should use another forum. Thats all im trying to say. Heck what is the forum here for if not to help people. Check this out...I work in the mortgage forclosure industry..thats what i do im the guy that will put your home on the auction block if you can't pay for it for any reason. Poeple call me all the time all day long because they didn't read through their loan note before settlement or they were not informed during the settlement process as to what would happen if they didn't pay their mortgage. I don't get rude with them, i try to assist them because i have knowlege that could help them, imformation that they don't have. I don't want to see them get put out so i try to assist them by pointing them in the right direction over and over again no matter how often they call asking the same question.
My point? This is unchartered territory for some people, some of them don't even know how to use a forum...i wasn't born knowing how to write blog or use a forum. I had to ask questions sometimes over and over again. I had to research as well. But come on man these are 200.00 phones and for some folks thats a lot of money. If they mess up their phone ATT won't help them at all. Not to mention, unless you can get that samsung kies working on your computer your "might" be stuck with the stolen version of froyo 2.2 which as you can see is very very glitchy for some people.
Yes the sight says to mod at your own risk...but how can you dangle candy in someone face like that and expect them not to take the risk. Besides can you imagine what this country would be like if we had informed shoppers who did their homework before the shopped...this economy would be worse off then what it is, because people would think before they shopped or played around with their 200.00 smart phone taking a risk on damaging it for good.
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That is true...or people who tend to be arogant in their thinking and looking down on folks who are not able to figure it out should use another forum. Thats all im trying to say. Heck what is the forum here for if not to help people. Check this out...I work in the mortgage forclosure industry..thats what i do im the guy that will put your home on the auction block if you can't pay for it for any reason. Poeple call me all the time all day long because they didn't read through their loan note before settlement or they were not informed during the settlement process as to what would happen if they didn't pay their mortgage. I don't get rude with them, i try to assist them because i have knowlege that could help them, imformation that they don't have. I don't want to see them get put out so i try to assist them by pointing them in the right direction over and over again no matter how often they call asking the same question.
My point? This is unchartered territory for some people, some of them don't even know how to use a forum...i wasn't born knowing how to write blog or use a forum. I had to ask questions sometimes over and over again. I had to research as well. But come on man these are 200.00 phones and for some folks thats a lot of money. If they mess up their phone ATT won't help them at all. Not to mention, unless you can get that samsung kies working on your computer your "might" be stuck with the stolen version of froyo 2.2 which as you can see is very very glitchy for some people.
Yes the sight says to mod at your own risk...but how can you dangle candy in someone face like that and expect them not to take the risk. Besides can you imagine what this country would be like if we had informed shoppers who did their homework before the shopped...this economy would be worse off then what it is, because people would think before they shopped or played around with their 200.00 smart phone taking a risk on damaging it for good.
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If you want to spoon feed the entire world, that is your choice.
But defending people for their lack of judgment and research makes you look equally ignorant.
The point, at the beginning of this thread, is that if people just bothered TO TRY, they would find answers. Or just read the first post of a mod thread. I would think the words "this could brick your phone" would mean something. But no, most people are so used to bailouts and handouts that they don't stop to learn. I pointed the OP in the right direction - the information is there if he/she looked.
Oh, and if we had informed shoppers - we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have now. People blame the banks, but it is idiot consumers that buy more then they can afford, get zero down loans, balloon loans, and hope their house goes up in value so they can refinance later.
The idea that more informed shoppers would make the economy worse is comical.
alphadog00 said:
If you want to spoon feed the entire world, that is your choice.
But defending people for their lack of judgment and research makes you look equally ignorant.
The point, at the beginning of this thread, is that if people just bothered TO TRY, they would find answers. Or just read the first post of a mod thread. I would think the words "this could brick your phone" would mean something. But no, most people are so used to bailouts and handouts that they don't stop to learn. I pointed the OP in the right direction - the information is there if he/she looked.
Oh, and if we had informed shoppers - we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have now. People blame the banks, but it is idiot consumers that buy more then they can afford, get zero down loans, balloon loans, and hope their house goes up in value so they can refinance later.
The idea that more informed shoppers would make the economy worse is comical.
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Wow. So the OP didn't read enough before jumping. I was guilty of the sane thing. The forum takes some time to get used to. Not certain it warrants your rant. You clicked on the thread, why just so you can yell at someone?
OP look for Odin in development. If you are on beta 5 it is the only way to go back. I hope you have a PC and not a Mac
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