Uses for front-Facing camera - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I have the Kaiser on its way. This is my first device with a front-facing camera. previously had the ATT 8525. Is there any other use for the front-facing camera other than with 3G video calling? Can it be used with messenger or skype or for anything else?

GermanGuy said:
I have the Kaiser on its way. This is my first device with a front-facing camera. previously had the ATT 8525. Is there any other use for the front-facing camera other than with 3G video calling? Can it be used with messenger or skype or for anything else?
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Well with the TyTn it was possible to use the front camera with the Coolcamera application - for such things as a webcam etc, But, I think I read somwhere here that there is a problem with coolcamera and the Kaiser.
Perhaps someone can confirm (or not) that this is the case.
Mike

I read about that same problem in Pauls review thread on MoDaCo. I was wondering the same thing, what can the front cam do for us in the USA?
For starters, the built-in camera app does let you select the front cam "Camera 2" for stills and it lets you flip the image as well , so no need for a mirror on the back like my 8525 had.
Hopefully there will be a way to use it for video conferencing at some point.

RemE said:
I read about that same problem in Pauls review thread on MoDaCo. I was wondering the same thing, what can the front cam do for us in the USA?
For starters, the built-in camera app does let you select the front cam "Camera 2" for stills and it lets you flip the image as well , so no need for a mirror on the back like my 8525 had.
Hopefully there will be a way to use it for video conferencing at some point.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329502
this report I found to be a step backward (??) in term of video conferencing ??

I don't know, a face is a face. I just checked this bug out using the camera app, Very Interesting!;
I set it to Camera2, my face was a mirror image, I held a text card and yes the text was reversed.
I set it to Camera2 Flipped, my face was "normal", text was readable.
Here's what's ODD, in the Camera2 setting, if I "barrel rolled" rotated the camera 360 degrees while watching the monitor, My face was always upright!
If I set it to "Camera2 Flip" and rotated the camera, my image rotates upside down as the camera rotates.
That's different!

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Second camera and portrait

Hello,
I tried to use the MS portrait but by default it selects the first camera not the secondary front facing. In options there is only one camera listed, whats the solution to this?
Thank you.
What are you tring to do? There is camera software for winmo phones that is great for using different cams and stuff here it is http://www.ateksoft.com/
If you haven't tried ComVu PocketCaster, I highly recommend it.
www.comvu.com or www.pocketcaster.com
I'm trying to use MSN messanger/portrait with the front facing camera?
You got portrait to work on the Kaiser? With me it always throws an error.
What version did you install?
beta, 3.1 but its using the main camera, not the front camera.
HI,
I recently bought HTC tytn II. My main purpose to buy this powerfull device is Voice chat and Video chat...
Please let me know the performance of MS portrait on tytn II... can we do voice chat smoothly?????
My experience of MS Portrait on my Kaiser is not very good.
It only seems to work with other versions of Portrait for voice or video and not with Live Messenger.
IM text chat to PC Live Messenger works just as well as "Mobile" Live Messenger to PC Live Messenger, and I stil get incoming Hotmail notifications.
Video, even over wifi LAN, was poor to non existent in my experience.
The only Camera it will work with is the rear facing camera, I tried setting up the forward facing camera in the camera app and then going into the settings for Portrait but still only the rear facing camera works.
I havent tried a 3g Video Phone call so I have no idea how well the Kaiser copes with the demands of 2 way video and audio processing and data transfer, but as far as portrait goes technically it works as a proof of concept but is far from being usable. Portrait is only beta software so there is hope for future improvements. Cool Camera and Webcam Plus, both from Ateksoft, were mentioned earlier but are not currently compatible with the Kaiser.
I have read somewhere that HTC have not released the full APIs for the cameras. I guess this will hinder 3rd party development.

Accessing the QCIf video camera directly in software

Does anyone know if it's possible to access the forward-facing video camera via software oneself, even if the Video Call feature is not available on your network ? I work for at a hospital and as a "pet project" ( telemedicine ) one of the doctors who has a Kaiser would like to be able to video conference in with the forward facing camera. I would like to pursue this ( and I just might get a Kaiser for myself in the process..hint..hint ), and am curious if anyone has attempted to access the QCIF camera directly.
Any suggestions will be welcomed. Thank you.
Yes
open the camera application, the open the camera menu. (little bar below in the screen) lower line in the middle shows camera, press this button and the camera switch to the forward camera...
And if you want the front camera to start up by default, I scanned the registry and you should change the following:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE --> software --> HTC --> Camera --> common
change the value of activecameraID from 1 to 2, voila front camera will start first.
offtopic: did anyone tried this already with an voip program and videovoiping? going to check it right away... Because it always starts the rear camera...
cheers
It doesn't work with MS Portrait
I have emailed MS regarding updates to Portrait and compatibility with front facing cameras. They replied saying they are aware of the Camera issue and that they would notify me of any updates.
I am not holding my breath... MS updates are few and far between compared to the rate of development achieved by some of the geniuses on here.
Thanks but....
Thanks for the replies, but I meant programmatically. I'm not trying to take pictures. I want to know where I can find information about how to programmatically access the camera, for a custom application that would run over 3G which would both stream video to the display, and capture and stream video out of the QCIF ....just as if the video call feature were available, but for networks where this is not possible.
As I said, this is for supporting a telemedicine application, that would allow the doctor to interact with a patient at bedside, when they are not physcially present.
For an application that would allow the video conferencing, you might want to consider MeBeam (www.mebeam.com). It's a flash based site that allows you to video conference with up to eight other people. I'm not sure if their flash application will be able to detect your hardware, but it's worth a shot.

Instant Switching Dual Camera Recording?

I know that iPhone have this feature. User can instantly switching between front and rear camera to record video. Don't get confuse with dual camera mode, which records video on one file with thumbnail within. A friend of mine was wondering if the Note 3 have this feature or not. I tried to google around but it seems to me that this feature does not exist at all. Can a user on Note 3 record a video via rear camera and instantly switch to front camera and record video? Does anyone know if there is some sort of app to do that? Thanks in advance.

Front Camera Video P20 Overexposed / Soft

Hi
Will Huawei fix the overexposed soft image quality of the selfie camera on this phone.
I am still on 8.1.0.103 and wondering if its been fixed in one of the newer updates as it is really disappointing
Not sure they think it's broken, it was obviously designed to do this on purpose. I know a lot of people that use beauty mode. It is rather annoying though as it can't be disabled for those that don't want to be enhanced to Ken doll like proportions lol
If you hit the photo mode rather than the default portrait mode for front camera it does help a bit. Definitely better than portrait mode. I do hope that a future update will add more control over the processing, but I won't bank on it.
I've tried many different camera apps, and the overexposure and softening occur as soon as the camera detects a face. Haven't been able to find a solution yet.
prowsterz said:
I've tried many different camera apps, and the overexposure and softening occur as soon as the camera detects a face. Haven't been able to find a solution yet.
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im 99% sure it can be disabled with root - its got to be a setting that detects faces.
we;d need someone to go through the source (if they ever release it)
once i root my p20 ill stalk around to try and find a property.
Sorry, i dont have phone yet. But, if you use some other camera application, will it be the same problem?
Its definitely a setting built into the kernel/source code because using another camera app will not override the setting. It only focuses on the subject (face) and blurs out the background which should not be the case
I have rooted P20 pro, and there is a ton of properties and definitions xml files for different modes and effects in odm/camera folder. For example there is something called "casiobeauty" among others But, to mess with those parameters someone has to have knowledge. So, i guess effects can be modified, if there ever will be someone of knowledge and will to do it
You all may want to install CameraMX from PlayStore.
It gives out high resolution and high qualoty images. Selfies taken by it are noticeably sharper than the p20 pro stock camera. Also, there is a slider to adjust exposure for the front cam (something that is missing from the stock). In addition, the app also supports HDR for the selfie cam as well.
You can give it a try...
mulkman said:
Hi
Will Huawei fix the overexposed soft image quality of the selfie camera on this phone.
I am still on 8.1.0.103 and wondering if its been fixed in one of the newer updates as it is really disappointing
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it was fixed in .120
Kusznier said:
it was fixed in .120
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What region? I am currently using the .120 for C636 but there is still the annoying overexposure and lack of details esp in groufies
You all might want to use the CameraMX app... I use it on all my selfies now. Ive compared it with the stock front cam and it's way way way better. See for yourself...
Archer Casio said:
You all might want to use the CameraMX app... I use it on all my selfies now. Ive compared it with the stock front cam and it's way way way better. See for yourself...
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very cheap quality sorry bro!
I hope overexpo fixed in next update!
Kusznier said:
it was fixed in .120
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It's better in 120 but definitely not fixed.
kabirjedi said:
very cheap quality sorry bro!
I hope overexpo fixed in next update!
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Uploaded the wrong photos the last time sorry..
For the photos below, the washed out one is taken with the front camera native app. The better one is with cameraMX app.
Note: No editing done, same lighting condition, almost the same hand position, same angle.
It is very evident that the native camera app is washed out/overexposed.
Well, the CameraMX photo isnt perfect but for me, it is 80% better than the stock camera.
Archer Casio said:
Uploaded the wrong photos the last time sorry..
For the photos below, the washed out one is taken with the front camera native app. The better one is with cameraMX app.
Note: No editing done, same lighting condition, almost the same hand position, same angle.
It is very evident that the native camera app is washed out/overexposed.
Well, the CameraMX photo isnt perfect but for me, it is 80% better than the stock camera.
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Hi - Is everyone certain this is a SW issue? I don't know a ton about cameras but is it possible there are defective front facing cameras on a bunch of these devices?
Hobartwash said:
Hi - Is everyone certain this is a SW issue? I don't know a ton about cameras but is it possible there are defective front facing cameras on a bunch of these devices?
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Hi, I'm pretty much sure it's a software issue as the original photo can look so much better when you edit it. And, you can also use other camera apps
There is a workaround on the overexposed p20 front camera images using the Google Photos Editor App
(I've read it from another XDA thread).
The results are stunning! It's almost as if the photos were taken using an actual Google Pixel front camera! (In my opinion)
I suppose the image enhancement algorithm for the Google Photos app is similar to the image post-processing of Google Pixel phones.
Note: Google Photos is commonly preinstalled along with Gmail, Hangouts, GMaps.
Step 1 - Snap a selfie using the native app
Step 2 - Preview the photo and click the (...) at the bottom right
Step 3 - Click Advanced Edit ---> Select Google Photos
Step 4 - Select the second icon next to the filters menu.
You will find 3 sliders (Light, Color, and Pop)
Step 5 - Slide Pop all the way up, as well as Color.
You may tweak the settings more for Color and Light too!
(There are more options when you expand it)
Step 6 - Click Save.
Find sample photos below:
Just got a P20 Pro and this is seriously my biggest hate with this phone! The rest is great (except my google pay not working) but the front camera makes me look like a ghost on any image!
I'm on update 128 and the front camera still overexposed.
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I'm on update 128 and the front camera still overexposed.
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Yes, I second that.

Front camera quality (and with video calls)

So we are hearing anecdotal evidence that the front camera has the classic softening, and this is causing video calls to look awful. Your picture will have no detail.
Anyone is able to test and post some screenshots?
kasiopc said:
So we are hearing anecdotal evidence that the front camera has the classic softening, and this is causing video calls to look awful. Your picture will have no detail.
Anyone is able to test and post some screenshots?
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I've had the phone since yesterday and the issue with front cam is limited to video calls and not photos or videos taken by the camera app or even 3rd party apps. I took photo using Camera app with front camera and compared to my Note 10 Plus and they are comparable (Note is slightly better):
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmNZfibB
I suspect the videocall issue has something to do with Sony not enabling some standard API that apps can use to access full camera features so they default to basic camera quality. I hope they fix in software updates! This is the only issue I found about the phone otherwise pretty solid flagship and I'm so glad I'm out of Samsung world.
My video chats with Facebook Messenger look nice sharp, according to the other party and from what I can see.

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