can anyone help with wiring connections - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

Being a deaf old git (not totally but my hearing is not as good as I would like), I want to add a pair of apmlified speakers to the PDA so I can hear the voices in my Tom Tom on the Apline clearer since the socket is a 2.5 stero type plug does anyone know which is which on the connections please?

you should read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1526625#post1526625

I presume your referring to the Garmin 2.5mm to 3.5mm Jack Adaptor?
nice but not what I was really after
I have found a small set of speakers with a 3.5 jack on the end all that concerns me is the standard headset that comes with the IIi is headset and mic I presumed that a common return (usually the last outer connection and I imagine one of the terminals is for sound and one for mic if so it means only mono sound which is different to what I have been lead to believe just need to know which is the sound out connections on the plug so I can buy a 2.5 plug and wire them up.
The other thing I suppose is I could get a bluetooth headset if the sound from the Tom Tom comes over that but that is a unknown also

i was not talking about the post i made in that thread but more about the DIY stuff people were doing
more about the connector wiring here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors

that would have been exactly what I wanted only thing it wasn't for the Apline unfortunately

Audio connections on himilaya and alpine are identical.

then one of us is wrong as the connections shown are on a FOUR pin connector my Alpine has a working THREE pin connector

not sure about alpine but i had no probs using my old wallaby headset and cradle on alpines sibling called himalaya

Well I seem to be a blind old git because I just noticed there is a inset on the plug and it is a four connection job sorry guys I only recently got given this thing and a quick glace it looks like three connections but one is inset behind the shield

The 2.5mm connector on BOTH Alpine & Himalaya can accomodate either a stereo or a 4-pin 2.5mm connector.
If the PDA detects a 4-pin plug inserted, it assumes the standard wired earphones and mic are connected, and bypasses the internal mic and routes stereo audio to the earphones.
When a normally-wired 2.5mm stereo plug (or adapter to 3.5mm socket) is connected to the PDA, it just outputs stereo audio.
I use a small 2.5mm stereo plug to 3.5mm socket adapter (having shaved away some plastic to enable it to fit, the socket is inset slightly) - to connect up a standard set of ipod-type speakers to the PDA, and it works a treat.
In short, either obtain a small adaptor to standard 3.5mm socket adaptor or if you get a 2.5mm stereo plug that fits nicely (Maplins, Radio Spares etc) and you want to solder it up yourself, it follows the same wiring cnventions as it's bigger 3.5mm brother, so a wiring diagram is just a google away.
Joe

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New ideia for car kit

Ok, the xda as a 4 pin jack, correct?
It has the ground, the in, and the out.
So, can we amplify the signal from the out to a speaker?
And can we switch a microphone at the in pin?
Thats just an ideia!
Thanks... Ricardo Gomes
i believe that making a converter which takes 1 stereo jack for sound out
and 1 mono jack for sound in is easy to do
if you cant find connectors you can always canabilize a working headset
and cut it's wires and solder them to a female stereo mini jack and a mono minijack
Rudegar said:
i believe that making a converter which takes 1 stereo jack for sound out
and 1 mono jack for sound in is easy to do
if you cant find connectors you can always canabilize a working headset
and cut it's wires and solder them to a female stereo mini jack and a mono minijack
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yes, I know, but how can i amplify the sound for the speaker?
If you want an external speaker for use in your car, which amplifies the sound from your XDA, you could consider to buy one of these:
http://www.arkon.com/CM530.html
Of course, it would not give you the satisfaction of making something on your own, and it can't be used other places than in your car.
you could use a car tape deck and just solver the wires from the pda on the place where the tape connects to it's amp it's all AUX signals
i have also seen a tape looking device with a minijack wire out of it if you convert the mini jack to the pda's strange jack it would also work
the tape looking device
http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=69&cat=16
it should work with other devices then the sonic blue rio but there are also others who makes them
Hi guys,
Wonder if one can just buy one of those car cassette adapters and a 3.5 to 2.5 mm pin adapter to use the car stereo system as an amplifier and play mp3 music?
Cheers
Vic
Yes, but I dont have cassete in my car, I have a radio with frontCD. What I want is just a system that conects to the jack on the xda to speak into a micro and listen in a speaker. I dont need to plug it to the sound car system.

headpnone adapter

PPC Techs XDA/SX56 2.5mm/3.5mm Audio Headset Adaptor
This adaptor converts the proprietary 4 conductor Pocket PC phone jack found on the XDA to a STD 2.5mm headset jack and 3.5mm stereo headphone Jack, and includes a PPCPE compatible answer/mute button. The adaptor cable is approximately 5" long.
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http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT01
What are your thoughts. Seems like a good product. Be able to use some decent headphones for listening to those mp3z . . .
Anybody used one of these?
is the answer/mute button only for those 2 functions or is that module also acting as a microphone (don't think so)? looks good to me but i use the headset adaptor i bought from this internet site based in hong kong. check out:
http://pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.jpg (the website is http://pc-mobile.net)
it comes with a standard 2.5 mm jack for the xda. the wire is on a retractable mechanism to avoid tangling. at the other end is the stereo phone jack which serves as an answer/end button and as a microphone as well. there's a single headphone jack connected which uses a 3.5mm plug. when you want to listen to the toons using your 2-headphone set; you simply unplug the jack and insert any 3.5mm plug-based headset. in effect you can use any 3.5 headset as handsfree.
costs 26usd but services are 5-stars for me.
cheers
Anyone tried this adaptor from pc-moblie.net? The sound quality is good or bad?
i doubt that it could damage the quality so you can hear it unless you connect it to a stereo's lineIn and play it out using real speakers
those headsets are too limited imho to take much damage from a few connectors
However, all these things are not suitable for xdaII.
I bought one from pc-mobile and the quality is good. However, since the new xdaII got 2 buttons in its handsfree design, this product from pc-mobile is not fully compatible. You can hear from it but you can't pick up or end call from it as compared to xda1 you can.
I hope they can produce another product which is fully compatible with xda2. Otherwise, I may have to go for bluetooth but really worry about the battery.
Also, can I or is there anyone using the bluetooth handsfree for mp3 playing????? I doubt that very much.
I do really like the pc-mobile handsfree which is retractable and handy.
Any alternative in the market?? You got the adaptor but I think its only good for audio MP3 listening. If you attach another headsfree to the adaptor for business use (don't know whether we can...), you will have 2 buttons (one for the adaptor and one for the handsfree) which is quite funny !
Does somebody else have this problem and find a solution?
Do most people use bluetooth?
*Damn* !
Been creating a cable myself, tried it yesterdaynight late....
The damn thing didn't answer the phone when i pressed te button.
I cut the audio-out cord and trew the cable away, because i tought the mic didn't work....
Now i read this.... Guess the mic did work, but the answerbutton didn't.
Now i hope i can rewire the audio-out cabels again, so i haven't been soldering for nothing last night
Headphone adapter for HTC magic
Hello.
On the HTC magic, there isnt a 2.5 or a 3.5 headphone jack! there is only a mini USB jack. Does anyone know where i could get a mini USB jack adapter to turn it into a regular headphone jack?
Even if anybody knows what kind of mini USB jack comes on the HTC then that would be lots of help! because ive already purchased one that fit, but didnt work so it must have been a different type.
Thanks in advance!
http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=extusb+to+minijack&btnG=Søg&meta=&aq=f&oq=

Earphone Adapter

Me again
I am looking to purchase an adapter to plug into my Qtek 2020i so that I can plug a FM transmitter into allowing me to play the MP3's to the car stereo.
I don't really fancy the idea of a 3.5mm to 2.5mm all in one unit, high change of breaking the 2.5 in the phone.
I have read around and there are adapters available that are a 2.5mm plug with a cable then the 3.5mm socket, but there seems to be problems with some of them not being connected correctly and thus, not stereo, not working etc.
I'm not bothered about bringing the microphone out, I have bluetooth and otherwise I'd be using the internal mic.
Any thoughts guidance anyone?
Tom
tomsimmons said:
I am looking
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Hey Tom
Me too, if you find some information, please post it here.
Well what I do know is that Expansys stock such an item. However its in the £7-9 bracket, which strikes me as stupid. For that much I can go and buy an inline socket, a plug and a mile of wire and make it myself!
Infact for that much I'd look at buying a stack of inline sockets and plugs and make and sell the buggers!
Tom
I bought an inline 2.5mm-3.5mm adapter, and I had to cut away most of the plastic surround at the 2.5mm end to get it to fit. It was a bit dodgy anyway, might've broken the socket, so I got a 2.5mm right-angle jack to 3.5mm socket (along a short cable, just enough to run up the inside of my case and out the top) for a few quid. Still had to cut off the extra plastic on the 2.5mm end to make it fit though.
Not sure if this disables the internal mic, since I only use it for listening to music, and then unplug it when making/receiving a call.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006J6IJ/026-9357951-2118020?_encoding=UTF8
Strange, I bought mine for about £2.50.
Hi,
I bought a 3.5mm FM transmitter powered by AAA batteries or Car adapter for $11 on Ebay.
Then I bought an INSTEN 3.5mm to 2.5mm stereo adapter with Mic and answer button for $7
This way while listening to music on my car stereo, if a call comes in I just press the mic button on the adapter and I can answer the call by hearing the caller on my car speakers and talking into the omni-directional mic on the adapter. My total cost = $18
It avoids the hassle of unpluging from your PDA phone...which could down the road cause problems with your PDA.
Look on ebay for these deals.
Thanks

mini USB pinouts and car audio connections

Hello,
I have recently bought a TY TN II and I would like it to play music into my car stereo audio input. Simpler said then done, I have quickly found out!!
I am trying to connect the Kaiser to the car charger and a 3.5 mm head phone jack that I would connect to the car stereo input.
Unfortunately all the Y splitter cable I have seen are very short and would result in having a mess of cable dangling from the Kaiser mounted on the air vent. I would like to just have one cable go into the dash and there connect to the Y splitter and then charger and audio. The goal is to charge and at the same time play music.
I would then need an extension cord to put between the y splitter and the kasier. Here come the problems:
1- How many pins are on the mini usb female that is on the kaiser. Is it a simple 5 pin Mini type A? or is it an 11 pins as some Y cable imply?
2- I could only find one supplier for the mini extension http://www.pc-mobile.net/gugf.htm item CMUE and I am not sure if it is a 5 or 4 wire extension (mini USB can be both I believe). For some reason nobody make this extension???!!!
3- If that extension does not work I could try to make one. What are the pinouts on the Kaiser? I could try to cannibalizing a sycro cable mini male end and find a circuitboard female to connect to the y splitter.
Any help is appreciated. I am getting quite aggravated with this connection problems.
Cheers
Giovanni
Spend a tenner for this
I just ordered it yesterday
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=148545
Best way would be to buy a BT capable HiFi as with the latest BT fix it will be OK.
BUT!!
If you want a quick hack for BT stereo/handsfree to your car audio.
Buy an iTech clip (it has a 3.5mm jack for audio out) and a car charger for it and a dual cig lighter adaptor.
Fit the iTech clip on you sunvisor (mic is there for phone!) and route its charger cable to the cigarette lighter and the audio cable to your stereo (if you don't have audio in, use a cassette adaptor).
You now can use the clip as Wireless stereo AND it will answer call for you and mute the music and only your power cable to your phone!!!
My iTech clip works seamlessly with the 'Kaiser', not ticks and good audio quality.
obsydian said:
I just ordered it yesterday
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=148545
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This is exactly what I use. I have it connected to an MP3 cable for my stereo and it wprks great!
I have my bluetooth earpiece in to receive calls and the stereo mutes when someone calls.
Also with MS Voice Commander I can also select artists, albums, tracks, or even genre just by pressing the button on my earpiece and speaking!
Its wicked!
Farsquidge said:
Best way would be to buy a BT capable HiFi as with the latest BT fix it will be OK.
BUT!!
If you want a quick hack for BT stereo/handsfree to your car audio.
Buy an iTech clip (it has a 3.5mm jack for audio out) and a car charger for it and a dual cig lighter adaptor.
Fit the iTech clip on you sunvisor (mic is there for phone!) and route its charger cable to the cigarette lighter and the audio cable to your stereo (if you don't have audio in, use a cassette adaptor).
You now can use the clip as Wireless stereo AND it will answer call for you and mute the music and only your power cable to your phone!!!
My iTech clip works seamlessly with the 'Kaiser', not ticks and good audio quality.
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I don't want to change the car stereo and I want to just have one simple cable to plug in the Kaiser. The rest should be in the car dashboard and out of sight.
I have bought a Scosche BT receiver but did not work with the Kaiser. BT is kind of miss and hit still. Since I need to connect one cable (power in) anyway I may as well have the audio hard wired.
Cheers

Does this adapter exist?

I already have a 2.5mm -> 3.5mm stereo adapter to connect my Mogul to my car stereo.
I want a 2.5mm (M) -> Splits two ways:
a) 3.5mm (F) stereo
b) 3.5mm (F) mic
If there isn't one commercially available, I should be able to make it. Any idea what the proper pinout is? And how do we get all signals down 3 wires? (Left+Right+Mic+Gnd+control button)
Any update on finding out how to conect a external speaker and mic to the 6800? I would like to have this type of setup in my car.
TdiDave said:
Any update on finding out how to conect a external speaker and mic to the 6800? I would like to have this type of setup in my car.
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You can do a direct splice of the cables coming out if you want, but that requires a little bit on knowledge and a little bit of testing. Basically, you'd take the stock headset and cut off the earbuds and mic. You'd then splice the headphone fead and the mic feed into other lines that would run to your external speaker and mic. Other than that, I don't know of any attachments that do it. You could swing by radio shack and ask them.
I am also interested in doing this. My car has an aux input to the stereo and I would like to install some kind of mic setup so I can use it as a handsfree device. Bluetooth is way too unpredictable so I plan on doing it wired.
You will need a 4-conductor 2.5mm plug along with the Y-cable that came with the phone that has usb and 2.5mm jack.
anyone looking for this setup.. i have a cable i bought off ebay that has a miniusb,which allows you to have a charger plugged in, built in microphone and answer button, and a 3.5mm headphone jack, it works great in the car for hands free (car deck has aux in) , and also works great with my cigarette lighter fm transmitter. anyone looking for this , just type in m
I think i found a solution. I just bought an adapter like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2in1-USB-audio-...ryZ35211QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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