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AT&T Settings for EDGE, 3G

I have been lusting after a Windows Mobile device for around two years, just waiting until the perfect phone came along. Finally the Kaiser is here, minus the VGA display, but seemingly everything else I could ever want. I would prefer to buy the unlocked version, but I have a serious reservation. While I waited for the Kaiser, I bought an unlocked Nokia 6131, but I had no luck making certain features (mobile web, sending pics to email) work on Cingular/AT&T wireless. I would be rather pissed if I bought a $800 BRICK!
My question: I know many of you are using the Kaiser on AT&T here in the USA. Is there a definitive source for the settings needed to use the EDGE and 3G networks? Could someone please post the link or the settings here? One thread I read indicated that the Kaiser automatically connects to these networks--is that true?
There are a lot of inexperienced people out there posting rubbish answers to questions like this. I'm a noob and I wouldn't presume to give advice to someone unless I knew what I was talking about. I'm hoping this thread will be useful to anyone considering an unlocked Kaiser, so please keep the misinformation to a minimum.
Thanks!

I'm using Kaiser in California on AT&T. I have 3G at my house, and there were no settings that were required for the phone to work. I put in the sim and it took off running. I've sent pics, text, slingbox streaming video, email, no issues at all.
I did load a different comm manager with a "3G" button to hold off 3G to save battery and give me control as to when I need a fast connection.

I use it in NYC on AT-T/Cingular and have no issues I use the wap.cingular settings for data and MMS since I hate MediaNet. But it works great and have 1.2MB download speeds every time I test.

Thanks for the quick replys. I was under the impression that the Kaiser came with the ability to turn off the 3G when you are out of range, is that not the case? Also, what are the wap.cingular settings that you are referring to? Did you have to input them before the phone worked? (I'm sorry for my ignorance!)

If you buy an unlocked TyTN II, it comes with a configuration app for most carriers including AT&T/Cingular. So, it works essentially out of the box with the 3G/Edge and of course phone network.
But even so, if you need to manually config it, here are the entries. Note, there are 2 different network APNs for AT&T depending on what plan you have. If you have a MediaMax, MediaNET, or Smartphone pdata plan, then use the first. If you have a PDA plan, then use the second set.
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: ISP.CINGULAR
User name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
You can do a google on wap.cingular also, and will take you to many pages with more detailed instructions also.

jomo25 said:
If you buy an unlocked TyTN II, it comes with a configuration app for most carriers including AT&T/Cingular. So, it works essentially out of the box with the 3G/Edge and of course phone network.
But even so, if you need to manually config it, here are the entries. Note, there are 2 different network APNs for AT&T depending on what plan you have. If you have a MediaMax, MediaNET, or Smartphone pdata plan, then use the first. If you have a PDA plan, then use the second set.
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: ISP.CINGULAR
User name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
You can do a google on wap.cingular also, and will take you to many pages with more detailed instructions also.
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As I mentioned, I'm doing fine with the initial startup when I installed my sim card. However, I do have a PDA plan so I did add MyISP with ISP.CINGULAR to connect to the internet.
I still see the unit connect via MediaNet for certain applications but can't find where that config is located as I only have one defined connection labeled AT&T GPRS with the ISP.CINGULAR access point.
Does anyone have an idea as to why that would be?

I'm with AT&T in CA and am using the iPhone plan. The auto config sets the data connection to ISP.CINGULAR. You'll need to change it to WAP to get connected properly for Gmail and Internet. ISP works but only for the Internet. For some reason it fails for email, Gmail POP3 email anyway.
My connection switches automatically between EDGE, GPRS and HSDPA.

RemE said:
As I mentioned, I'm doing fine with the initial startup when I installed my sim card. However, I do have a PDA plan so I did add MyISP with ISP.CINGULAR to connect to the internet.
I still see the unit connect via MediaNet for certain applications but can't find where that config is located as I only have one defined connection labeled AT&T GPRS with the ISP.CINGULAR access point.
Does anyone have an idea as to why that would be?
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It's hidden. Mine does the same, even tho both the visible "My ISP" and hiddne "Media NET" connect to the same place. It might be viewable in the registry...

Under Start - Settings - Connection Tab - Connections, checkout Edit Work settings...that's where I found Medianet settings.

Does Blackberry Connect fall under a PDA plan? Basically, should I use the ISP.Cingular?

cman6453 said:
I'm with AT&T in CA and am using the iPhone plan. The auto config sets the data connection to ISP.CINGULAR. You'll need to change it to WAP to get connected properly for Gmail and Internet. ISP works but only for the Internet. For some reason it fails for email, Gmail POP3 email anyway.
My connection switches automatically between EDGE, GPRS and HSDPA.
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I didn't know you could get an iPhone plan (unlimited EDGE, no 3G) for a device other than the iPhone. How did you pull that off?

caleymac said:
Under Start - Settings - Connection Tab - Connections, checkout Edit Work settings...that's where I found Medianet settings.
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Found it Thanks! I went to the connections tab, didn't see MediaNet. It turns out that it was a pull-down choice for both Internet and Work fields. I just pulled down MediaNet for work, then went into Edit, tapped and held to delete the MediaNet entry. Now it's gone from the pull downs.
When I was speed testing the Internet Sharing with my Laptop, I found that when using speedtest.net that the wap.cingular connection shows it's origin on the USA Map in SpeedTest as Florida (I'm in Calif). When I ran Speedtest using isp.cingular, the location origin was Los Angeles and it tested faster for me.

RemE said:
Found it Thanks! I went to the connections tab, didn't see MediaNet. It turns out that it was a pull-down choice for both Internet and Work fields. I just pulled down MediaNet for work, then went into Edit, tapped and held to delete the MediaNet entry. Now it's gone from the pull downs.
When I was speed testing the Internet Sharing with my Laptop, I found that when using speedtest.net that the wap.cingular connection shows it's origin on the USA Map in SpeedTest as Florida (I'm in Calif). When I ran Speedtest using isp.cingular, the location origin was Los Angeles and it tested faster for me.
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Thats Bizzare... For me, I am on the PDA connect plan and I am forced to use wep.cingular, because, I can't connect to ISP.Cingular... When I asked ATT about this, she said, "We are migrating all users regardless of whether they are on the PDA or Media net to the wep.cingular access point... I had a notion she was full of it, but now I know she is full of it...
With the pda plan I shouldnt have any problem connecting to isp.cingular, correct?
JB

I'm on the unlimited PDA plan and using isp.cingular

RemE said:
I'm on the unlimited PDA plan and using isp.cingular
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Did you have to give them the IMEI #?
I just got off the phone with a supervisor from ATT telling them that I want to know why I can't access ISP.CINGULAR ap and only the WEP.CINGULAR.
Their answer was because they don't know my IMEI number and that if I gave that to them then it would work... I told them thats Customer support BS and that I can't find my IMEI number. I also told em that if my phone is capable of connecting to the wep.cingular ap that there is no reason I wouldn't be able to connect to the isp.cingular ap unless I wasn't provisioned for the PDA plan and just provisioned for the media net plan, even though I am paying the extra 20 dollars for the PDA plan...
I can't stand ATT, I am with them only to get 3g in Los Angeles.. As soon as another company matches what att has to offer I'm leaving att...
Anyone have any ideas and advice about this?
JB

RemE, did you purchase your old 8525 from cingular? If so, then they obviously have your 8525 imei#. Did you ever tell them you upgraded from the 8525 to the Kaiser? If not.. then they probably think your still on the 8525. If so, then the 8525 is a pda which the kaiser is as well, which means that maybe they won't provision you for the pda plan unless they know your using a pda.
Just a thought.
JB

No, I set up the account initially with a Razr on Cingular, migrated to a 8525 and expanded to unlimited data. I was using wap.cingular all that time, didn't know about isp.cingular. I had noticed the origin as Florida when speed testing the connection.
When I got the Kaiser, popped the SIM in and it auto created the MediaNet connection. In reading this forum I found the isp.cingular and gave it a try and found that it shows origin in LA, so I went that route and now have deleted MediaNet. I haven't had any contact with AT&T about any of this.
Edit; they have my 8525 imei on file as my current phone.

RemE said:
No, I set up the account initially with a Razr on Cingular, migrated to a 8525 and expanded to unlimited data. I was using wap.cingular all that time, didn't know about isp.cingular. I had noticed the origin as Florida when speed testing the connection.
When I got the Kaiser, popped the SIM in and it auto created the MediaNet connection. In reading this forum I found the isp.cingular and gave it a try and found that it shows origin in LA, so I went that route and now have deleted MediaNet. I haven't had any contact with AT&T about any of this.
Edit; they have my 8525 imei on file as my current phone.
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So when you migrated to the 8525, Cingular knew about it, right?
JB

SlingPlayer problems?

Hi all, I have a weird problem.
I have a tilt and am using the HTC rom, I connect to wifi in my apartment and 3G or HSDPA when I leave the apartment.
When I'm connected through wifi, my Slingplayer works flawlessly, finds my slingbox, and plays the video. When I try to connect outside using 3G/HSDPA, I get "Cannot connect with current connection settings"
I know the Slingbox is working correctly because I can connect to it through a desktop PC without a problem, and I know that the 3G works fine on my tilt because I have no problem loading websites, using mundi, etc.
Any ideas? I've seen a couple other posts on other forums with the same problem but there were no responses on them.
Thanks!

Can you connect to anything else when on 3G?
Try your proxy settings
Did you change the default ports on the SlingBox config?
Are those ports (default or modified) open from the outside of your firewall/router?
If you have the ability to monitor inbound connections try monitoring while you connect through 3G and see if your device attempts on the correct port and that it is NATed to the correct IP and port.
Raptor

I had exactly the same problem with my Belkin router. You need to set up a port on your router in order for it to work. I know on mine it involved setting up a virtual server.

I am using the TyTN II and I am having the same exact problems. I think AT&T killed access to slingbox somehow. I can surf the internet just fine, and then as soon as I start the slingplayer, my connection gets lost and my phone says "cannot sonnect with current connection settings." Any help would be appreciated, especially with the World Series coming up this week.

cjf2014 said:
I know the Slingbox is working correctly because I can connect to it through a desktop PC without a problem
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Possibly a silly point but can you definitely connect over the internet to it? Or just over your LAN?
There's a wizard that enables the port forwarding for you - (called Remote Viewing or something?) should be with the software for the slingbox.
Could be that your desktop is just going direct over the LAN?
Also, I had problems when I was just using the automatic settings to configure the box - in the end it works far better if you ignore the UPnP stuff, and use the manual setup process (or so I found). Again, the desktop software wizard steps you through this.

If you can connect over wifi at home, but not over wifi or 3g when away, then unless AT&T are blocking the ports, its more likely your router settings, as at home you are inside your LAN but elsewhere you have to go through your routers hardware firewall.
Just have a look at slingbox's help files.

SlingBox works fine on AT&T. Check your proxy settings on the phone. Try the "remove hidden proxy" cab. The home router also needs an outgoing port defined as well. Good Luck, I know it can work.

I will bet that it's your router/firewall blocking the incoming net traffic. Try connecting to it from a Friend's internet connection or a public computer at the library or something.

Had a similar problem with slingplayer mobile on my new HTC TouchPro- phone from Vodafone but I put in my T-mobile SIM as I wanted to keep the Web and walk.
Slingplayer worked fine from Vario3 with same sim but not from TouchPro. Eventually unticked the use proxy server in the connection settings and it started to work. Weird, as on the Vario the proxy box is ticked and it works.
Anyway, worth trying if anyone else is having problems.

One of two things, either you have not port fowarded your router to allow the Slingbox to be remotly viewed, go to portfoward.com for exact instructions for your specific router, or your hidden proxy is messing with it. More than likley its not port fowarded correctly. BTW...when your in your home network, i.e... using WiFi, it will work without the router being fwded because your slingbox is already inside your home network. When coming from the outside of your home network through 3g or whatever your router has to allow access to the slingbox.

Help with internet sharing/tethering on Vista

OK so I thought I was halfway intelligent about all this but apparently not. I can't seem to get my internet sharing to allow me to tether on my new Tilt. I had it working fine on my Sprint Mogul so I know theoretically how to do it. I have the stock AT&T ROM (allowed customizations; just lazy about figuring out what I'd need of the customizations so I live with the bloat).
I created a shortcut for IntShrUI.exe in my \windows\start menu\programs folder to start the internet shar. I start Internet sharing and select USB and AT&T ISP GPRS (or MEdia Net; same result). It says connected and doesn't give me any errors but I can't seem to connect to anything from my PC or even ping anything. I'm using a Windows Vista PC. While internet sharing is connected I can connect to the web on the phone itself but not from the PC.
I was originally on "PDA Personal Max UNL + 1500 Messages" but I couldn't seem to connect to ISP.CINGULAR and I thought maybe that's why I couldn't tether (and I thought it'd probably prevent me from connecting to my corporate VPN). So I called in and the tech guy said that plan isn't provisioned for ISP.CINGULAR so he switched me to the "older" (his words) PDACnctUntlAdd which is the same price and includes ISP.CINGULAR but not 1500 messages. In hindsight I'm guessing that's not my problem (especially since it didn't fix it) and I'll prob go back to PDA Personal Max with the 1500 messages once I figure out the tethering and assuming it allows me to VPN.
My settings are:
AT&T ISP GPRS
Modem:
APN: isp.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1 (doesn't show it but found that online)
Domain: blank
Advanced Settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP Address
Use software compression: not checked
Use IP header compression: not checked
Servers: User server-assigned IP Address
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the Internet: checked
This networks uses a proxy....: not checked
MEdia Net
Modem:
APN: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: ????? (doesn't show it and never looked for online)
Domain: blank
Advanced Settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP Address
Use software compression: not checked
Use IP header compression: not checked
Servers: User server-assigned IP Address
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the Internet: checked
This networks uses a proxy....: not checked
I've tried to do it with the proxy disabled (running Disable Proxy from programs) and with it enabled with the same result.
So what can I be doing wrong? I'm sure it's something supremely stupid (if it's not a provisioning problem but how could it be that?) but I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Any help greatly appreciated and let me know if there's anything else you'd need to know to get this working.
If it matters I have the following installed:
Kaiser.HTC.Home.v2.0.814.722.HTCHome.Dir.With.Brig htness.Fix.Updated.01OCT2007-schen.cab
duttythroy HTC Audio Manager 1_2_816716.cab
duttythroy HTC Voice Recorder 1.10.1717.2221.cab
duttythroy HTC_SIM_Manager 6.31.cab
duttythroy Task Manager 2_0_30995_1.cab
HTC Touch Keyboard + Keypad.cab
Kaiser_BCR World_Card_1_0_070724b_x.cab
Vibra (Switch) 1.32.cab
ComMgr3G(10 Buttons)fixed.cab
cecmd.arm.cab (Total Commander beta 2.5 build 3)
HHCv10b5.CAB (HTC Home Customizer v1.0 beta 5)
LiveSearch.cab
Tillanosoft tGetFile.dll (for pocketnester)
Microsoft Office OneNote Mobile
RViewer.cab
Birdsoft All-in Hold-em
Google Maps

So your device says connected (and can surf the web) but your laptop wont connect?
So is your laptops firewall blocking the network?
Have you tried it over bluetooth, and use the BT PAN option. Select BT in ICS and click connect, and click YES to allow it to be discoverable, then in Vista, click start, connect to, Then click Set up a network or connection. Then scroll down to the bottom option (BT PAN). Click it and it will offer your device's BT PAN, select that and click connect.
Wait for 30 seconds, then open the web.

Solution from ATT-Connect your Laptop/PDA
Here ya go! Tried it myself with the usb. Workin good-ATT has a comm manager app that installs on the laptop.
Here's the link to the ATT support for it.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt
Alemaker

Thanks for your help; hadn't thought of turning off firewall since it worked with the mogul without doing that. Tried that and it didn't work. Then tried with bluetooth and that didn't work either. Didn't want to use the ATT comm manager on the off chance that they could track tethering usage on it.
And of course it was a stupid thing not to check but something made me try connecting to an IP address and not a URL and BAM! it worked. So I guess I have a DNS problem and not a connection problem.
So now anyone have an idea why the laptop can't resolve DNS but the Tilt can? Should I manually set free public DNS servers on the Tilt? Or on the laptop?

Vista you said? correct?
Try making the network that Vista sees when you connect-private; if it's public,it'll block stuff

Yeah, it's already set to private. Still no DNS resolution. I'm going to try using a free public DNS server on the PC. Strange that the Tilt isn't passing thru DNS for me but it seems it is for everyone else.
Well using the free DNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) seems to work now and it even seems to resolve DNS faster. I feel better that I figured out how to get it to work but I'm definitely confused as to why it doesn't work by default like it does for everyone else.

get tethering working yet?
hi,
i have the same issue. have unlimited data plan on my tilt. no problem with connection on my tilt (although i did not put in all that proxy setting crap att asks you to put in).
anyhow
- installed the htc modem driver on my laptop.
- turned on the modem on the tilt
- created a new dialup connection on my xp laptop
---> question here, what is the "phone number" that should be dialed???
--> for [email protected], password is CINGULAR1 also
as a last resort i will try using the att comm manager, but like you i don't really want to do it due to any tracking att may be doing...
would be great to hear if loading that local dns resolves your problem, altho it seems kinda clugey (sp?)

lol-
ya'all kill me.
Anything at all,including data; going through any major network in the U.S., is tracked- period. Cell calls,data,internet connections, and even landline calls are ALL tracked in the U.S. now. Thanks to the current administration, EVERYTHING is tracked.
Alemaker

I meant tracked in terms of tethered vs non-tethered (not being on a tethered plan; but then I tether about once a month when travelling in airports if that so I'm not worried about it). I know big brother is always watching (especially on AT&T):
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3833172&page=1
@jprai I did get tethering working by just changing my DNS settings on the laptop to free servers. I'm not using wireless modem but the Internet Sharing app on the PocketPC (go to \Windows and copy the shortcut "internet sharing.lnk" to your \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory and then you'll be able to start the app easily). It's much easier to use (well now that the DNS issue was figured out).
I'm still very curious why DNS isn't working for me with the default settings and it does for everyone else but I'm OK with this work-around for the time being.

erikk said:
I meant tracked in terms of tethered vs non-tethered (not being on a tethered plan; but then I tether about once a month when travelling in airports if that so I'm not worried about it). I know big brother is always watching (especially on AT&T):
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3833172&page=1
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Sorry for gettin us off topic with this,p but, yup^^^^), and glad ya got tethering working!
Alemaker

erikk said:
Yeah, it's already set to private. Still no DNS resolution. I'm going to try using a free public DNS server on the PC. Strange that the Tilt isn't passing thru DNS for me but it seems it is for everyone else.
Well using the free DNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) seems to work now and it even seems to resolve DNS faster. I feel better that I figured out how to get it to work but I'm definitely confused as to why it doesn't work by default like it does for everyone else.
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This did the trick for me, thanks!
For those not fully aware of how to do this, connect your phone with ICS, go to network connections (control panel->network and sharing center->manage network connections), right click on the phone's connection (hover over them if you're not sure about which is which... mine said NDIS something or other), go to properties, click on TCP/IPv4, go to properties, and then give it the DNS addresses listed above.
Thanks!
-Taylor

isp.cingular and AT&T tech support - a box of chocolates?

Just got my Tilt last week, and of course had to upgrade to PDA Personal Max plan (had been using MediaMax successfully with my Wizard). But I figured the increased cost was worth it, and that also I'd be able to access isp.cingular (which I had used before when I was on PDAunlimited plan)
Couldn't access ISP at first, so I called tech support. Very nice lady said "You were on MediaMax, now you've upgraded to PDA Personal Max but they haven't turned ISP on - I will do that for you". She did, it worked, no problem at first. Download speed reported by DSLReports was in 600's, vs. 400-500 when on WAP (on Denver's very recently activated 3G).
Then 2 days ago it quit working. I called - first guy couldn't understand what I wanted, kept trying to step me through configuration in Connections for WAP - I said I've already got that going, with and without proxy, no problem. So he says "Then what's your problem?" I say I'm paying for it, I should be able to access ISP, please be sure it's turned on. He doesn't seem to have a clue as to how to do this, or why I would want to. Call ended in frustration.
Next guy I talked to said "ISP is only for tethered plans". I said, "Oh, really, then what am I paying extra for my plan vs. MediaMax?" and he gives me the song and dance about how MediaMax is for Smartphones and PDA Max is for PDA's. I said I didn't think he knew what he was talking about and hung up.
So, what is the real deal? Shouldn't I be able to access ISP?
Would like to hear other's experiences - especially if successfully using ISP and not on tethered plan.

Hey I went through the same exact issue with AT&T about this isp vs wap. Reading all the talk about how isp was better I had my phone upgraded to it. Everything was working fine until around the time I got 3g service upgraded to my area. I noticed I could not connect anymore so i went back to the old wap settings and everything went through. I do not think it is because of 3g that I can't access isp anymore it's just the timeframe in which it happened. Anyway now when you call AT&T it is almost like they got brainwashed into thinking that isp is only for tethering plans. Even though I tell them I had this configured to my account before it literally seems like that they had that memory wiped out from their recolection. Anyways I guess I am not too upset since 3g was upgraded to the area however having access to isp and ispda would be really great. If anyone is lucky enough to devise a way to get this feature added to their 39.99 plan that would be awesome. However like cushcalc said earlier and like what I have gone through it seems that now isp is now tied to tethered $59.99 plans instead.
Also I wanted to add 1 thing to this. All reps swear that this does nothing to increase your speed however they have now become so resistant to even add this feature now to $39.99. So if it's really the same thing why all the hassle to give people what they want?

It takes time to talk to the RIGHT rep.
Don't worry, i went through the same thing. Until i spoke with a lady and told her that "my wap settings works correctly, but i don't want to connect it using wap.cingular anymore, i want to be able to connect to isp.cingular." She did go on mention about the tethering and blah blah blah. And i told her "im not tethering, i need isp.cingular because it assigns an IP ADDRESS to my phone so i can access my computer remotely when im away from the office from my PPC Phone." In conclusion, she did some research and it seems like there's two different $39.99 pda unlimited plans. So i told her i want the pda unlimited plan that has isp.cingular support and for $39.99. So in conclusion, i guess the rep needs to know the difference of the two. Not sure if this helps, but that's how i got my isp.cingular to for for unlimited us at $39.99 a month.

Ok, i just got my tilt a few days ago, it's my first pda/smart phone, what ever. Whats does all this mean and how do i check which i have. i'm on a 39.99 data plan.

I've tried accessing isp.cingular many times.
Always fails.
After reading this post I decided to give them a call seeing as I have the 39.99 PDA Plan.
Well after getting transferred a couple times, the guy told me my phone was provisioned to access either of the APN's, wap.cingular or isp.cingular.
I think I will keep calling back every day until I get someone that knows wtf they are talking about.
I need to be able to access my work VPN, and have to have a static IP

I've been back and forth with AT&T on this. I'm also in Colorado (but Colorado Springs, not Denver) and we just got 3g as well.
I called about needing isp.cingular to access my home VPN. The first rep told me I had to get the $79.99 tethering plan. I said no thanks. I called again the next day and got a rep who knew actually knew what she was talking about.
She said that feature could be added to my account for $3 a month. I agreed, she made the changes, and I hung up the phone happy. I rebooted the phone (her instructions) and tried to make a connection to isp.cingular. No go. Same error message I always get.
Can someone on this thread verify the connection settings?? This is what I have:
Access Point
ISP.CINGULAR
Username
[email protected]
Password
CINGULAR1
I haven't tried calling back yet, but maybe I will tonight.

PDA Connect can connect to isp.cingular. PDA Personal Max cannot. You need to have them change your plan to PDA Connect and you'll be able to access isp.cingular again.

Someone who can connect to ISP, go into your wireless account screen and get the Plan name. Mine is: PDAPERUNL1500MSG and I can't connect to ISP.
here is the weird part, when I activated my phone and called in for it, the rep told me the PDA plans were EXACTLY the same, same cost, everything else the same, except one included 1500 messages. I made him repeat it and said "So there is NO difference whatsoever except one has 1500 messages included?" He said Yes, so I went with it. But I'm willing to bet, the one w/o 1500 messages allows you to connect to ISP.
Ugghh...

Read my post above yours again. That's exactly what I'm saying. I currently have a tethering plan, but I used to have PDA Connect Unlimited and could use isp.cingular also.
You CANNOT use isp.cingular with the PDA Personal plans.

URPREY said:
You CANNOT use isp.cingular with the PDA Personal plans.
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Then why did the AT&T rep tell me I could, but it would cost me an additional $3 a month?? (see attached pic)

Flapjack said:
Then why did the AT&T rep tell me I could, but it would cost me an additional $3 a month?? (see attached pic)
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Did it work? Just because a front-line support person tells you something doesn't make it true.

Flapjack said:
I called about needing isp.cingular to access my home VPN.
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I'm on the media max plan and VPN just fine.
I've personally done both IPSEC and PPTP vpn on wap.cingular
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URPREY said:
Did it work? Just because a front-line support person tells you something doesn't make it true.
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Obviously, I have to follow-up. The charge is there, for "static IP", which is promising. I will call tomorrow if I have time.
RacerX10 said:
I'm on the media max plan and VPN just fine.
I've personally done both IPSEC and PPTP vpn on wap.cingular
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I can't seem to make it work! I can connect from another network w/o issues, I just can't from my phone. The only place I see to add the VPN connection is under my "Work" network settings....

If someone would enlighten this OLD dog, I would like to see if my TiLt will connect with the isp.cingular.com
Only problem and reply I can use would be to tell me how and where to adjust the settings.
Be kind.....newb at play with my new toy!

Try this
Try and call them and ask them to set you up on this one "PDACnctUntlAdd" that is the exact name i got when i went to the features page on my at&t account online. And it's only for $39.99 and my isp.cingular works perfectly with 3g connections.

Out of curiosity I tried changing my Tilts MEdia Net settings to go to isp rather then wap, and couldn't make a connection.
Portland Oregon Area, with the 39.99 PDA Personal w/ 1500txt
I get 500-900 on the 3G out here, 80-150ish on EDGE, and around 1.6mbps on my wifi connection through my cable internet. No complaints!
Would like to know what kind of a change this would make though, other then the IP assignment.
Bubbacs
In your Settings / Connections / Connections screen, click "manage existing" and then edit Media Net. First screen is to change name, 2nd screen is to assign wap or isp.

I may be reitterating some information here, but I can tell you as a fact, APN isp.cingular is being reserved for either PDA Connect Unlimited, or a Data Connect plan. If you are any of the PDA Personal plans, access to isp.cingular WILL BE TURNED OFF. There are however, a VERY small number of users that (by shear luck) didn't have isp.cingular turned off when they changed from PDA Connect Unlimited to PDA Personal Max.
My advise is.. if you can't get isp.cingular to work, quit beating your head over it and change your plan to PDA Connect, or get a laptop card plan like I did.
I did a long research thread on this at the at&t forums. I cannot access that site anymore, but maybe someone else could dig up a link.

GWelker62 said:
I may be reitterating some information here, but I can tell you as a fact, APN isp.cingular is being reserved for either PDA Connect Unlimited, or a Data Connect plan. If you are any of the PDA Personal plans, access to isp.cingular WILL BE TURNED OFF. There are however, a VERY small number of users that (by shear luck) didn't have isp.cingular turned off when they changed from PDA Connect Unlimited to PDA Personal Max.
My advise is.. if you can't get isp.cingular to work, quit beating your head over it and change your plan to PDA Connect, or get a laptop card plan like I did.
I did a long research thread on this at the at&t forums. I cannot access that site anymore, but maybe someone else could dig up a link.
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Is this the correct one G? http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=49092#M49092
OK, isp.cingular and a real ISP has been discussed quite a bit in the past, especially after the new rom came out and the PDA Personal Max data plan. And this is when the trouble started. Many users lost the ability to use a real ISP and some didn't. Some of the fixes posted worked for some and others it didn't.
For me none of the fixes worked but using APN wap.cingular really did what I needed, so I decided to leave it alone. After I decided to upgrade my data plan to Data Connect, I now NEED to use isp.cingular. I cannot log in my company's VPN unless I use APN isp.cingular. So I was bound and determined to make it work. After much reconnaissance I found all the answers right here on the at&t forums. But there are many pieces to the puzzle and they were spread out all over the place. This is going to be an attempt to put the pieces all in one place so the picture will come together.
Update 05/06/07 1:40pm
I put this information together with the assumption of readers having some working knowledge of Windows Mobile 5 and mobile phone usage. If you are a complete NOOB to the whole WM5 thing this information will create more questions than answers. I am far from being a tech guru and if I can half learn this stuff with both my brain cells, then most other people can too. But still..... noobs enter at your own risk.
The Connection Profiles
Now, the new rom sets up the two network connections, "My ISP" and "Media Net". Refer to here Browser/internet Settings There is a link in that page also for configure and use the My ISP profile. For the MEdia Net connections follow the instructions to the letter. Now the My ISP instructions differ from what the new rom sets up automatically. (and if you call CS the data guys will walk you through those settings in that link) The new rom will have the settings for a "real ISP" connection. You will notice, if you follow those instructions it has you change a couple of things. For one it has you change the APN isp.cingular to wap.cingular. Well this won't give you a "real ISP" connection but it will make the My ISP profile work for web browsing. I did a survey of users on who had "My ISP" working and the ones that answered yes, I bet they were still using wap.cingular in the MY ISP profile. So they were/are not getting a real ISP connection. I will quote from that settings page and maybe it will give you clue on it's purpose for using wap.cingular in the My ISP connection profile:
# Additional features such as Wi-f and device based e-mail along with other 3rd party applications may not be compatible with the proxy settings associated with the MEdia Net profile.
# If there are connection issues with e-mail and/or Wi-Fi, configuring and using the My ISP profile as displayed below may resolve connectivity issues.
# Configuring the AT&T 8525 to use My ISP will disable MEdia Net (WAP) web pages when My ISP is used for connectivity. However, regular Internet (HTML) web page browsing will function as normal.
Now the best I can figure, all this does is give two profiles and both use APN wap.cingular, but one uses a proxy server and one doesn't. Which brings me to my next category.
The Proxy Manager cabs
There are two cab files in a folder called Proxy Manager, under your programs menu. These two cab files enable and disable the proxy settings via a registry edit. Now, to me, if I continue to use the MEdia Net connection for all internet use, and utilize these cab files to disable and enable the proxy, I am doing the same thing as above by setting up those two network connections and swapping back and forth from them. Now once you have the My ISP connection profile set up with "real isp" settings it will be no longer necessary to use these cab files. All you have to do is switch back and forth from MEdia Net and My ISP. The MEdia Net profile has the proxy settings built in and you will have to use it if you want access to the Media Net home page.
http://home or http://device.home
Now on to the next topic....
How Do I Get A "Real ISP" To Work?
After it is all said and done, the bottom line is you have to be on the right data plan. From what I have learn't, you have be on a PDA Connect Unlimited, or a Data Connect Unlimited before your account is provisioned to access through isp.cingular. There are a lucky few that when they switched to PDA Personal Max, isp.cingular was not turned off (lucky dogs who's names we shall not speak ). But if it is turned off, CS will NOT turn it back on untill you get on the right data plan and that is the FIRST step. PERIOD Once you do have the right data plan and isp.cingular is "turned on" then it is as simple as setting up My ISP with the "real isp" settings. And thats it! For a recap of those settings refer to RonAnnArbor's post here. You can consider this post a supplement to Ron's.
Something About PIE
Now lets assume you got on the right data plan and isp.cingular is provisioned, and the My ISP profile is set up to use the "real isp" settings but it DOESN'T WORK! You pull up PIE to view a web page and it times out and displays one of those dreaded error messages. Have no fear I found the answer on the at&t forums too. But credit for it should go to the folks over at the XDA site. (man there are some pretty tech savvy folks over there! I wish I was as knowledgeable as those guys) There are some settings in the registry for PIE to auto detect proxy settings. Let's keep it simple and say PIE is "hard coded" in the new rom to always use wap.cingular. So if your connected to isp.cingular, well... you get the picture. That may not be technically accurate, but I think it will be easy for most to understand. (at least for my two brain cells it is ) You will find that everything else that needs access to the internet will work, like email, weather programs, but one will assume they have no internet access if PIE doesn't work. Now lets fix that too, but it will take a registry edit to do it. If you don't know how to do registry editing, I suggest you get a reg editor like Resco or Total Commander and learn how to use it. Now here is what you do. Go to:
HKCU \ Software \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \ Internet Settings
There will be a Dword labeled "EnableAutoDetect". The default value that detects the proxy is "0", you can change it to a "1" but I recommend deleting the entire entry. Also after a reset go back and make sure it is gone. Sometimes the changes don't stick and you will have to do it again. Another thing to remember is DON'T use the Proxy Manager cabs again. The enable proxy cab will re-write those settings back in there.
Update 8/5/07 8:25pm: I have experienced an anomaly of the "EnableAutoDetect" Dword showing back up in the registry after a soft reset. No proxy cabs were used to cause it. At this time I have not figured out the "why" because it happened only twice. I will edit this update if I find the cause/fix. For right now I thought users should be aware of it and delete it again if necessary.
The Technical Side of APN (Or, what's the difference between isp.cingular and wap.cingular?)
Instead of me spouting off a lot of Geek language and acronyms I don't really know, I am going to link to this page. I have posted this link before and the entire page is some really good infomation. For the information related to the title of this paragraph, scroll down to the section labeled "There are two Cingular access points".
Multimedia Messages
If you want ot send/recieve MMSs, this "real isp" connection is not going to work. For over all web browsing, email, weather updates, ect, the MEdia Net profile should work just fine. I leave mine on MEdia Net most of the time. It is only when I am going to tether, or if a web site is acting flaking (that's a techincal term you know) I will switch over to My ISP. If you are connecting through My ISP when a MMS comes in, it will be a text message directing you to www.viewmymessages.com. (As of this writing this is how it seems to work)

Yep, that should be it. Of course all I can see is my ticket to Banville, but from your copy and paste, that should be the one.
FYI, some of the links from the copy/paste are not functional. But you should see them on the OP on the at&t forum.

The full thread can be found here.

Understanding AT&T Connection and Proxy Settings on Kaiser

Hi all,
I've been at these forums a few weeks now and am starting to understand much about the PPC (I have a Tilt), software, ROM's etc.
But the one thing still confusing me is the Connection and Proxy Settings for AT&T.
Specifically, my phone has 4 connection set up: MediaNet/AT&T ISP/My Work Network/MY ISP. Why so many different settings and when are each one used or otherwise needed?
As for proxy settings, there seems to be 2. One setup in the phone connection settings, and then a "hidden" proxy. What are each of these used for and what are the advantages/disadvantes to turning each one off/on?
And finally how does WiFi fit into all of this, if at all?
Thanks in advance!

ok, i'm gonna take a stab at this see if i can get this right......pls feel free to correct me
AT&T isp - this one use the isp.cingular gateway, it is basically the one you use if you have a tethering plan (now tethering without a thethering plan is a whole different story altogether)
MediaNet - this uses the wap.cingular gateway, and you use this if you have a medianet unlimited or pda personal unlimited plan
My Work Network - use this if you want to connect to a vpn network
My ISP - this one has no connection setting whatsoever (at least for at&t) and just leave it at this one if you dont have a data plan and just want to use wifi.
the hidden proxy......its used if you want to access at&t services such as cingular video and the medianet homepage, as for the "other proxy" you mentioned......i have no idea what will happen if you disable it, i just leave it as it is.

I have an OEM HTC Kaiser with no mods whatsoever ( I dont want any awwww Sh%$ts!!) I go to the ATT website, Support by Device for my connection answers and nice screenshots on the settings. I think there is only one that didn't apply to my device...the hidden proxy one. Seems to help me with my problems
Those connection settings get me going too!

for the hidden proxy, you just need to find the enable proxy and disable proxy cabs. you can make shortcuts to both cabs in your start menu or wherever for easy access (just like the at&t roms). those cabs are all over the forums......search for it