What Memory should I use on Kaiser? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi guys, I am trying to buy a "SanDisk Mobile Premier 2GB Micro SD high speed", I believe it is fit for Kaiser, right?

Yep that'll work fine; be wary of buying on eBay as many tend to be fakes. Buy from a trusted reseller. I have got a 6GB for less than £40 delivered.

If your in the US, you can get great deals @ newegg.com
I purchased my 2gb microsd for 19.99, and 3 day ups is standard shipping.(costs like 3-5 dollars, on some cases its free shipping)

it supports cards over 2GB (Micro SDHC); i have a 2GB Micro SD for now, waiting for a 10-15GB model of the SDHC's to come out so i can dump all my music on it and ditch my iPod

dunno where ive got this from but i think/heard/got the vibe that the kaiser can only support up to 8gb sdhc?

that's great, I was think about a 2GB one but seems like it is not enough? Does Kaiser a good music/video player?

Slade8525 said:
it supports cards over 2GB (Micro SDHC); i have a 2GB Micro SD for now, waiting for a 10-15GB model of the SDHC's to come out so i can dump all my music on it and ditch my iPod
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ditch iPod, you are so cool man

niccyk said:
ditch iPod, you are so cool man
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i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.

Slade8525 said:
i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.
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Yes we all need a slim pocket...
By the way here comes a new question, I found that all micro SDHC are come with CLASS 2, that means 9mb/s on reading and 5mb/s on writing... a little bit slow? It that necessay to buy a MicroSD Ultra II ?

Slade8525 said:
i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.
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up to 32 GB sd card in ATT Tilt
DLD

if you have a 1-2GB micro SD card now, i'd wait a while unless your dying for memory space; they are bound to up the read/write speeds and lower the prices. I teach digital photography, a few years back read/write speeds of memory cards mattered a LOT, nowadays most D-SLR's have a huge cache so a superfast memory card isnt such a big deal, and the prices are fairly decent. My bet is in 6 months an 8 gig Ultra II Micro SDHC shouldnt be more than $60.
thats great to hear RacerX10; even 10-15GB should effectively mean i dont need to drag my laptop and iPod everywhere; 32GB means pretty much ALL my media with me.

SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III

Slade8525 said:
if you have a 1-2GB micro SD card now, i'd wait a while unless your dying for memory space; they are bound to up the read/write speeds and lower the prices. I teach digital photography, a few years back read/write speeds of memory cards mattered a LOT, nowadays most D-SLR's have a huge cache so a superfast memory card isnt such a big deal, and the prices are fairly decent. My bet is in 6 months an 8 gig Ultra II Micro SDHC shouldnt be more than $60.
thats great to hear RacerX10; even 10-15GB should effectively mean i dont need to drag my laptop and iPod everywhere; 32GB means pretty much ALL my media with me.
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yep, let's be normal to the speed
your really professional on this topic

RemE said:
SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III
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lol im aware of that, i'll just be happy to see the day i dont have to drag 14 lbs of PDA/MP3/PC crap around.

RemE said:
SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III
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And the ATT Tiltless.......
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6GB Micro SDHCs are available - Sandisk seems to be th eonly real supplier at this moment. I'm sure others will have theirs out soon too. I just bought one from www.mydigitaldiscount.com in the US. Got it with no issues, and I've filled 4.5GB of it with music and video.
8GB MicroSDHCs are targeted for release probably around the end of the year. Again, Sandisk will be the first supplier.
No one has even announced an official "coming soon" statement for anything bigger than 8GB yet.

jomo25 said:
6GB Micro SDHCs are available - Sandisk seems to be th eonly real supplier at this moment. I'm sure others will have theirs out soon too. I just bought one from www.mydigitaldiscount.com in the US. Got it with no issues, and I've filled 4.5GB of it with music and video.
8GB MicroSDHCs are targeted for release probably around the end of the year. Again, Sandisk will be the first supplier.
No one has even announced an official "coming soon" statement for anything bigger than 8GB yet.
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So you think by Christmas we'l be seeign 8gb micro SDHC cards? should i wait till then and put off geting a 6gb card?

niccyk said:
that's great, I was think about a 2GB one but seems like it is not enough? Does Kaiser a good music/video player?
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Kaiser is a real good video player(Using TCPMP), but it also depends on the format.
My favorite, and In my opinion, the best format is .m4v (You may need a special convertor for that)
Other formats are either 2 big, or has really choppy playback.
Also you should increase your font and glyph cache to 32768 (makes things more responsive/ smoother)

the SDA SD Card Association has never quite said the 'maximum' size of a Micro SD; there is a theoretical maximum of 32 GB, hence the 'limit' at the moment, which IMO means merely a new 'type' of SD card in a year or two. as for hardware that reads them, there likely is a maximum size they can read.
Currently Samsung has an 8GB Micro SD in development, Kingston and Sandisk are sure to be right behind anyways. besides, its just a memory card; i have piles of 128MB Memory Stick Pro Duo's that i bought for my Sony S710a when it first came out, and 128MB was still a fairly sizeable card for a cell phone; now we're talking 6-8+ gigs...

ekw said:
Kaiser is a real good video player(Using TCPMP), but it also depends on the format.
My favorite, and In my opinion, the best format is .m4v (You may need a special convertor for that)
Other formats are either 2 big, or has really choppy playback.
Also you should increase your font and glyph cache to 32768 (makes things more responsive/ smoother)
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That's great advise, I used to play .AVI with TCPMP and it works fine but haven't try to increase the cache, due to my Vario I is limited by its memory

Related

Do we think a 16Gb SDHC card would work?

This is sorely tempting - never have to use the MD again and still have plenty of spare space!!
http://uk.gizmodo.com/2007/12/09/transcend_crams_16gb_onto_tiny.html
Sweet!! Last year 1GB was mainstream, now it's 2GB but it's raising very fast.
I'm waiting on 8GB to be in store, but 16GB sounds more interesting.
apd said:
This is sorely tempting - never have to use the MD again and still have plenty of spare space!!
http://uk.gizmodo.com/2007/12/09/transcend_crams_16gb_onto_tiny.html
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No, I don't think it would work. Our device is only capable of accepting either the MicroSDHC (with an adaptor) or MiniSDHC.
SDHC's physical dimension is too large to be slotted into our device.
you can get a convertor from sd to micro sd its being on these forums before but this is a good price for anyone looking at the shift to improve batterylife and increase storage for that as it uses sd as far as i remember
eaglesteve said:
No, I don't think it would work. Our device is only capable of accepting either the MicroSDHC (with an adaptor) or MiniSDHC.
SDHC's physical dimension is too large to be slotted into our device.
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They will presumably bring out Mini and Micro versions in the not too distant future....
spzero said:
you can get a convertor from sd to micro sd its being on these forums before but this is a good price for anyone looking at the shift to improve batterylife and increase storage for that as it uses sd as far as i remember
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scissors or pocket knives?
apd said:
They will presumably bring out Mini and Micro versions in the not too distant future....
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Let's hope it's not too distant in the future.
converter from sd to micro or mini.. google search just comes up with mini to sd adapter, ie wrong way round. im getting an athena, and i dont need the space, but would be cool to have the possibilty of paying 60 quid for 16 gb of storage.
and to think, 2 years ago, november 2005, i got a 2gb ms pro duo for my psp and k750 for 80 quid in singapore, when 1gb were 100 quid.. now look lol
should work if it comes in our size miniSD or microsd w/adapter.kaiser is rated up 32gb and i think the athena is the same.
rorydaredkign said:
converter from sd to micro or mini.. google search just comes up with mini to sd adapter, ie wrong way round.
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I did find one once from a no-name mfr in China or Taiwan. It was basically a Mini-SD card with a flat ribbon cable coming out of it into a PCB that had an SD adapter on. I assume it would work, but looks like it would break apart within 5 mins. And added to the fact that you would have to leave the flap open on the athena compartment.
Not quite 16GB yet, but the 12 GB microSDHC is already out. See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371700
any capacity will work, provided the device supports sdhc. 32gb is the official (so far) limit on the sdhc capacity
leoni1980 said:
any capacity will work, provided the device supports sdhc. 32gb is the official (so far) limit on the sdhc capacity
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My understnading is that 32 gb is the limit of the current os. Once we upgrade to wm7 this will no longer be applicable.
32gb is the official purported maximum capacity of the sdhc standard, though this 'wall' may be lifted in future (2terabytes if you believe wikipedia). It is certainly not os specific.
I think 32 gigabytes of data storage should be overkill for most people anyway. It seems many people have ample media and software on their microdrive and still have 50 percent left, though if my ssd vs sdhc poll is to be believed some people would like 64gb of storage on their Athenas: whilst this is all good for showing off, in real terms such a large amount of storage would be fairly pointless to the average joe. Only video files could realistically swamp such a chasmic void of memory and who really wants to keep films they've already watched on their hard drive (unless of course it's a particularly good film)?
This principly applies to any phone, pda or multimedia device. One use for which i do propose to use a 32gb sdhc is in my eee pc. Provided the write speed of a class 6 card is fast enough i will use one to install xp and give me the extra space for program files and dowmoads that i crave
leoni1980 said:
32gb is the official purported maximum capacity of the sdhc standard, though this 'wall' may be lifted in future (2terabytes if you believe wikipedia). It is certainly not os specific.
I think 32 gigabytes of data storage should be overkill for most people anyway. It seems many people have ample media and software on their microdrive and still have 50 percent left, though if my ssd vs sdhc poll is to be believed some people would like 64gb of storage on their Athenas: whilst this is all good for showing off, in real terms such a large amount of storage would be fairly pointless to the average joe. Only video files could realistically swamp such a chasmic void of memory and who really wants to keep films they've already watched on their hard drive (unless of course it's a particularly good film)?
This principly applies to any phone, pda or multimedia device. One use for which i do propose to use a 32gb sdhc is in my eee pc. Provided the write speed of a class 6 card is fast enough i will use one to install xp and give me the extra space for program files and dowmoads that i crave
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32GB is the maximum native partition size for window ce 5.0.
32GB is actually not difficult to fill once you start collecting musics, pictures and videos in a serious way. How big is iPod's biggest storage? Larger than 32GB I think. If I have that much space, I would convert all my old CD's and put all my CD in storage for good (may be will bury it for 200 years and have it sold as antique for a fortune then ).
Pictures is another story. It can only grow. I seldom want to delete them ever. My children's photo, no matter how old, must be kept for ever.
Another thing that I must mentioned is the video capture requirement. If you use your video camera, you will notice how quickly the disk storage get used up.
I won't be complaining about having too much disk space for this reason.
I still remember those early days when all we had on our IBM PC was a floppy and could'nt fantom why anyone could use a 10MB harddisk that cost $15,000. When my boss acquired a 100MB notebook, we all said he was insane because nobody should ever need so much space. Then, he went 1 GB! That was unthinkable. I'm seeing the same thing here. When the space is available, we will somehow find use for it, may be slowly, but surely.
May be 5 years later, we can look at this post again, and see if this is true
I agree space, however big can slowly be filled up for being social beings, one way or the other, we will be sentimental on things which we hold dear to us regardless how junk it may be for some other people.
What we are actually seeing here is the old evolution of storage space coming to life all over again. Different it may seem right now because of the difference in medium and usage but I agree with Eaglesteve. It may sound insane now but five years from now, it may look funny not just to us but to those that will replace us that we even talk about these things.
The beauty about having billions of people in this world is that in terms of economies of scale, it is faster to develop technology for everyone to use. Even if a small percentage will adopt a certain size of storage, it is already enough to make it economical for every one to use.
Even if there is a limitation in the OS that we are using right now, who's to say that it will not change in the future. It used to take MS 5 years to develop a new version of the Win CE OS. We have seen how fast Win CE evolved and we already have 1 whole version upgrade every 2 years or so. Every 6 months MS announces an aku upgrade on certain new devices. For me this is very good news, for the average joe this is nothing because he doesn't really care. His only concern is being able to use what he has. Actually the average joe is afraid of change. He wants his life to be better but is afraid of the sacrifices needed to make it better.
We, along with the minority are at the forefront of technological evolution. We are the early adoptors because we have the foresight to see the possibilities technology has in store for all of us. If we stop and become complacent, we will become the average joe and eventually get buried in the mass of zobies or sheep that the average joe really is.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion however crazy or educated they may be. However, an opinion may be shared by not just one or two but also by millions or maybe billions. It maybe that the average joe for now may crave for 8G storage whatever the medium. It may also be that people like leoni may think Asus eee may be a good replacement for the athena. But let us not forget, there are many more not voicing their opinions on this or any topic in and outside the forum.
The vocal ones maybe the catalyst for now but it is the masses or those affected by the mass marketing campaigns of businesses that will ultimately decide the future. Let us not forget though that for there to be a future for every one, we, the visionaries and early adoptors must constantly look choose for the best out there for us and influence others to our thinking. In doing so, we ensure that there will be a future for what we believe in. This is the essence of a forum. This is the reason we are here but then again, this is just my opinion.

12 GB microSDHC cards out

It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html
eaglesteve said:
It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html
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Not worth the money though Eaglesteve. I could buy TWO 8gb Sandisk SDHCs with free postage for 37 dollars less than that. 179 dollars for 12gb versus 60 dollars for 8gb is a total rip off for an extra 4gb in my opinion. Hopefully the price will drop soon though.
leoni1980 said:
Not worth the money though Eaglesteve. I could buy TWO 8gb Sandisk SDHCs with free postage for 37 dollars less than that. 179 dollars for 12gb versus 60 dollars for 8gb is a total rip off for an extra 4gb in my opinion. Hopefully the price will drop soon though.
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Hey leoni, where can you get the 8 gigs for that cheap, and does it come with the mini sd adapter? Oh and by the way you make total sense as usual. Way over priced. But thanks for the info Eaglesteve.
tootallk2000 said:
Hey leoni, where can you get the 8 gigs for that cheap, and does it come with the mini sd adapter? Oh and by the way you make total sense as usual. Way over priced. But thanks for the info Eaglesteve.
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Www.play.com. It's a sandisk and comes with an sd card adaptor and a usb sdhc card reader. Ive tested my sdhc card in 3 different card adaptors from non-sdhc cards and they work fine anyway so you just need a microsdhc to minisd adaptor from ebay or elsewhere for the athena if you dont have one already....
Any products bought by "early adopters" are more expensive. It will come down in price. When I bought my 4 GB SD cards for AUD300 few years ago it was a steal because the 512MB was going for more than 100 then. Now, we looked at that and laugh. The same goes for Athena - because I bought it very soon after it was released, I paid probably 50% more than what could be had today.
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Any products bought by "early adopters" are more expensive. It will come down in price. When I bought my 4 GB SD cards for AUD300 few years ago it was a steal because the 512MB was going for more than 100 then. Now, we looked at that and laugh. The same goes for Athena - because I bought it very soon after it was released, I paid probably 50% more than what could be had today.
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You're right Eaglesteve, although in this instance I think i'll be a late adopter of 12gb cards. I can cope without that extra 4gb for now, 8 is more than enough for me now anyway!
16gb micro sdhc cards are about to be released too! Check out www.symbian-freak.com for the article
Already??
I thought they would come 4th quarter this year...
Nevermind,the article doesn't say a word about availabilty.
On the other hand,the pix are proof that those things are existing already...
i did the same with my psp and pro duo's. In 2005, the best you could get even a 1gb for was about 60 quid on ebay, and I got a 2gb from singapore for 85 quid. these days, only 2 and a bit years later, its about a tenner
Lol at electronics
Rory
eaglesteve said:
It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html
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Appreciate this...ordering now.
ltxda said:
Appreciate this...ordering now.
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Would you mind posting your SKtools benchmark test for us when you get it please?
eaglesteve said:
Would you mind posting your SKtools benchmark test for us when you get it please?
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Don't mind at all....i should get it a few days after March 10th. Just shoot me a reminder in case I forget.
For all those considering the 12gb micro sdhc cards, the 16gb cards will be released also in 2-3 weeks, with 32 GB models (rather incredibly) arriving in the next few months. Sandisk seem to be ahead of the mark here, and the whole 32gb Athena project could instantly be put on hold: why not take out the mircodrive altogether to save on batteries! it'll be superfast to stick all your films on a 32gb card with the supplied card adaptor and reader, so screw activesync/wm5torage.
32gb cards should work in any sdhc compatible device, since the manufacturer's given capacity for the device's card reader is invariably based on current size limitations. There is no reason why a 32gb card wouldn't work in an Athena so this could be quite a big step for the device, and mobile devices in general.
I disagree that the 32GB project could go on hold. There is a 16GB SSD that costs ~$110, and in 6 months or so, there will be a 32GB SSD out by at least one manufacturer.
Couple that with a 32GB micro SDHC card, then you have an Athena with 64GB, that costs much less than a Sony UX
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I disagree that the 32GB project could go on hold. There is a 16GB SSD that costs ~$110, and in 6 months or so, there will be a 32GB SSD out by at least one manufacturer.
Couple that with a 32GB micro SDHC card, then you have an Athena with 64GB, that costs much less than a Sony UX
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I think there a people out there who might still want to take their device apart to replace it with an ssd and risk bricking their device (and certainly shred their warranty) but i imagine most would prefer to use a card as the transfer speed of a card in a reader vs software transfer over activesync/wm5toerage file is huge.
By this time of the year, my warranty is already about to expire anyway. If there is well documentated instruction by a more hardware oriented poster, I'm willing to take the risk of opening it up.
I prefer to install all my program on a non-removeable storage, so that I can swap the removeable one in and out at will for even more storage.
Plus, I expect savings in battery life, access speed (SSD should be quite a bit faster than the microdrive, I expect), and reduced weight are all attractions. It would also certainly make Athena surpass X7510 in everyway other than the keyboard. Just imagine, we have larger storage and we still manage to keep all the nice hardware buttons.
That's half the fun is trumping HTC at their own game!
Imagine, when the 16gb 7510 hits the streets and some tech blogs instantly declares is obsolescent because someone has jammed a 32gb ssd into a 7500/7501.
Maybe then HTC will wake up and juice up the 75xx series to have great video performance, and other improvements.
Any update yet on the availability of these larger storage cards? I can't find any 12gb microSDHC for sale online apart from preorders. And if 16gb are only 3 weeks behind, I'll wait for those.
Thanks
Jon
Found some info here... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2281491,00.asp
In part, it says (re SanDisk):
Product-wise, the company made no major announcements at CTIA, but company reps did confirm to us that the previously announced 12GB microSD size will not be released. Instead, this summer the company is going to "jump to the next obvious size," which is 16GB.
Apparently the 12 giggers previously 'available' are all only pre-orders?
I've had a few cards where it would only let me write to half of the card and the other half was corrupt. I suggest every time you buy a flash mem card you write to the full amount right away to test it. Because sometimes you never get around to using the whole thing until way later and then is when you realize it's faulty. 12gig copy time will be insane.

Sandisk MicroSD 32GB

Still waiting..
but they have given a release date:
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£99.97
£85.08 ex. 17.5% VAT
Release Date: 20/04/2010.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sandisk-microsd-card-32gb-p20431.htm
nice
and very expensive for card
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and very expensive for card
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not that expensive when you consider its the size of your finger nail - it wasn't that long ago you'd be paying the same ammount for a 3.5" hdd
double the capacity, yet more than 4x the price of a 16gb card.. come on.
£27 delivered for 16GB or £99 for 32GB ?
That's the equivalent of paying an extra £72 for gaining a mere 15GB more space.
do you think its easy to just double the capacity of something thats physically so small?
This is like comparing the price of a 42" LCD TV and 50" LCD TV...do u think the prices are proportionate ?? The difference is even more when u compare 50" and 105" (for a 100% increase we may have to pay abt 500% or more)
renjithvakkayil said:
This is like comparing the price of a 42" LCD TV and 50" LCD TV...do u think the prices are proportionate ?? The difference is even more when u compare 50" and 105" (for a 100% increase we may have to pay abt 500% or more)
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To be fair, that's not an accurate comparison. A 105" screen has more than 4x the surface area of a 50" screen. So, paying 500% more is not all that unreasonable. However, to pay 300% more for double the memory, while not unhear of historically, is a bit steep. I'll wait until August when they're £50!
Lol why are you people defending your reasons to buy one or not to? Isn't it your own choice? xD
you could get 3 X 16GB @ 27 quid for the price of one 32 GB! plus you have some money left for a packet of crisps and some cola bottles!
you could place the spare cards in the battery cover, where that spongey foam stuff is !
note: this is not a serious suggestion although i would go for it
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Long time ago I spent that for a 64Mb SD card, so its all relative.
rabthecrab said:
do you think its easy to just double the capacity of something thats physically so small?
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Easy, just glue two together, fold them in half and job's a good un
is it class 2,4 or 6?
a class 2 or 4 32gb microsd is useless imo..
patanello said:
is it class 2,4 or 6?
a class 2 or 4 32gb microsd is useless imo..
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So why would a Class 4 32GB MicroSD card be useless? Or a Class 2 for that matter?
I have both a Class 4 and Class 2 16GB card and they both perform well - I'm sure there are differences (OK - I know there are differences) but to the human senses including watching full DivX movies and running PS1 Roms with FPSEce I have no problems at all? I personally am looking forward to the availability of a 32GB card - I tried to buy one from the guy on Ebay from Germany but he wouldn't ship to the UK - I would worry "too" much about Class 2, 4 or 6 just yet....
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Blob8me said:
So why would a Class 4 32GB MicroSD card be useless? Or a Class 2 for that matter?
I have both a Class 4 and Class 2 16GB card and they both perform well - I'm sure there are differences (OK - I know there are differences) but to the human senses including watching full DivX movies and running PS1 Roms with FPSEce I have no problems at all? I personally am looking forward to the availability of a 32GB card - I tried to buy one from the guy on Ebay from Germany but he wouldn't ship to the UK - I would worry "too" much about Class 2, 4 or 6 just yet....
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well..ok..maybe useless is quite a "strong" word..
but..i'll tell you what..i had an 8gb class 2 that (for the record) perform well..but now i bought a 16gb class 6 and trust me..with 10gb of mp3 and 4gb of divx has no slowdowns..never..and has an amazing transfer rate..
my point is: if u need alot of space for your device, u also need some speed..otherwise u got a tons of mp3s i.e. that only slow down your device..
just my two cents..
patanello said:
well..ok..maybe useless is quite a "strong" word..
but..i'll tell you what..i had an 8gb class 2 that (for the record) perform well..but now i bought a 16gb class 6 and trust me..with 10gb of mp3 and 4gb of divx has no slowdowns..never..and has an amazing transfer rate..
my point is: if u need alot of space for your device, u also need some speed..otherwise u got a tons of mp3s i.e. that only slow down your device..
just my two cents..
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I had travel last month about 4000 km (2k+2k), with iGO8 (full europe) and pocket player on for all the time (1200 mp3's), receiving calls too and i never had any gap from music or navigator .. my microsd is sandisk 16gb class2
itoYo said:
you could get 3 X 16GB @ 27 quid for the price of one 32 GB! plus you have some money left for a packet of crisps and some cola bottles!
you could place the spare cards in the battery cover, where that spongey foam stuff is !
note: this is not a serious suggestion although i would go for it
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This, single handedly, is the best storage advice you'll ever hear. I salute you fellow goon
patanello said:
well..ok..maybe useless is quite a "strong" word..
but..i'll tell you what..i had an 8gb class 2 that (for the record) perform well..but now i bought a 16gb class 6 and trust me..with 10gb of mp3 and 4gb of divx has no slowdowns..never..and has an amazing transfer rate..
my point is: if u need alot of space for your device, u also need some speed..otherwise u got a tons of mp3s i.e. that only slow down your device..
just my two cents..
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As I understand it the bus on the HD2 couldn't take advantage of the full class 6 speed anyway.
Sure, if you're transferring 10Gb of data from your computer onto the card directly, you'll notice the difference, but I reckon most people put their music on their SD card once, and leave it on, so it's hardly an everyday occurrence.
I know this is not a Sandisk but I think you might want to know.
Check this.
This is a class 4, very interesting for a cheap price. I'll follow your advice for now though.

kaiser microSD card read/write speed

The company I'm working for gave me an HTC Kaiser as work phone. I had a 2gb microSD card as spare, so Im using it for now. What I'm wondering is the phone's read/write speed.
I am considering to buy a 16gb class 6 microSDHC card, would that be an overkill? (not the size of course, Im going to put a lot music etc, but would class 2 or 4 be enough for it? Also, I liked this phone, but just loved HD2(some use LEO, too. I wonder why HTC uses just too many aliases, anyways). I may buy it, so even a class6 card would be overkill for tytnII, would it be an overkill for hd2, too?
Thanks in advance,
zazafci
zazafci said:
The company I'm working for gave me an HTC Kaiser as work phone. I had a 2gb microSD card as spare, so Im using it for now. What I'm wondering is the phone's read/write speed.
I am considering to buy a 16gb class 6 microSDHC card, would that be an overkill? (not the size of course, Im going to put a lot music etc, but would class 2 or 4 be enough for it? Also, I liked this phone, but just loved HD2(some use LEO, too. I wonder why HTC uses just too many aliases, anyways). I may buy it, so even a class6 card would be overkill for tytnII, would it be an overkill for hd2, too?
Thanks in advance,
zazafci
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A class 6 is overkill for the Kaiser, but bigger/faster is always better. It is not overkill for the Leo.
Rule of thumb is always buy the biggest/fastest you can afford because you never know what you will be doing with it.
However, remember, if you try to drain a bathtub through a 5 cm hole or you try and drain a lake through a 5 cm hole, the same amount of water will still come out the other side.

SanDisk SDSDQUA-128G-U46A 128GB microSDXC card

Looks like SanDisk is keeping it under wraps - spoke to SanDisk support rep - he denied existance, but the info is getting spread all over the internet and some Taiwanese sites already list it in their inventory, like this one: http://www.sbit.com.tw/en/productsearch.aspx?_searchtext=SDSDQUA-128G-U46A
Making a placeholder thread for this card - please post any news here and of course links, if you see it available. I expect formal announcement from SanDisk in the next couple of months or so
I wonder how much those will go for?
a year ago, when 64GB one, the one in my signature, came out it was $229.99 on SanDisk site...Don't expect this to be any less...after all - it's double in size
Apo11on said:
a year ago, when 64GB one, the one in my signature, came out it was $229.99 on SanDisk site...Don't expect this to be any less...after all - it's double in size
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Has the 64gig one only been out a year? Seems longer.
128gig would be welcome.
Apo11on said:
Looks like SanDisk is keeping it under wraps - spoke to SanDisk support rep - he denied existance, but the info is getting spread all over the internet and some Taiwanese sites already list it in their inventory, like this one: http://www.sbit.com.tw/en/productsearch.aspx?_searchtext=SDSDQUA-128G-U46A
Making a placeholder thread for this card - please post any news here and of course links, if you see it available. I expect formal announcement from SanDisk in the next couple of months or so
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It would be much cheaper and even as effective to simply get a Ribbon adapter (microSD to SD) and buy a standard 128GB SD card with a good write speed.
BigBison420 said:
It would be much cheaper and even as effective to simply get a Ribbon adapter (microSD to SD) and buy a standard 128GB SD card with a good write speed.
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That is true and you should theoretically even get better performance and data integrity from the card with the larger surface area. However there is the convenience to the micro sd of have not having to worry about possible mods to make it fit inside your case etc
baileyjr said:
That is true and you should theoretically even get better performance and data integrity from the card with the larger surface area. However there is the convenience to the micro sd of have not having to worry about possible mods to make it fit inside your case etc
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Bingo- I have a ribbon adapter soldered to a Kingston sdcard. Believe me its a pain if I want to remove it to put it in an adapter to go in the PC for whatever reason. It was difficult to solder, it's difficult to fit, and just plain a nuisance overall (but I do love having my 70gb music library and tons of leftover room for videos or whatever). Even I would strongly consider getting a $200 ish 128gb microsdxc.
I don't understand what Sandisk is waiting for. There is obviously a demand for 128GB microsdxc cards. is it possible that Sandisk couldn't manage to fit 128GB on the tiny microsdxc card?(not yet anyway?)
the 128GB SDXC cards are selling quite well... I bought the Sandisk one for only $120 recently.(for use in my camera)
Its a combination of time it takes to develop the technology and making a production pipeline for it. Once its ready they're not gonna make 100 of those cards - they're gonna make 100 million of them.
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If anyone gets one and can test it I'd love to know if it works with a Nokia 808?
I'm desperate to upgrade the 64gb card nside my Symbian mobile to 128g
GlynG said:
If anyone gets one and can test it I'd love to know if it works with a Nokia 808?
I'm desperate to upgrade the 64gb card nside my Symbian mobile to 128g
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Ah. Good ole symbian. Kind of miss it. Wish Nokia had spruced it up.
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centerwaters said:
I don't understand what Sandisk is waiting for. There is obviously a demand for 128GB microsdxc cards. is it possible that Sandisk couldn't manage to fit 128GB on the tiny microsdxc card?(not yet anyway?)
the 128GB SDXC cards are selling quite well... I bought the Sandisk one for only $120 recently.(for use in my camera)
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It's probably pressure from the network carriers. The service providers want people using smaller built-in memory so they use the cloud more. If users rely on the cloud over local storage, there is a much higher likelihood they'll go over their monthly data cap and get charged for overage. It's likely part of the reason Apple is the only major smartphone manufacturer (that I can think of) that hasn't adopted expandable memory via a MicroSD card slot. A 128GB MicroSD card would allow the majority of people to carry their entire collection of music, videos and pics around. Bandwidth demand would drop and carriers would lose overage revenues.
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It's probably pressure from the network carriers. The service providers want people using smaller built-in memory so they use the cloud more. If users rely on the cloud over local storage, there is a much higher likelihood they'll go over their monthly data cap and get charged for overage. It's likely part of the reason Apple is the only major smartphone manufacturer (that I can think of) that hasn't adopted expandable memory via a MicroSD card slot. A 128GB MicroSD card would allow the majority of people to carry their entire collection of music, videos and pics around. Bandwidth demand would drop and carriers would lose overage revenues.
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Yeah but their is a shi* ton of people qho take thousands of pics and videos. Music etc. Unless they go 64GB internal or 128GB internal there is still a need.
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DimeDrl said:
It's probably pressure from the network carriers. The service providers want people using smaller built-in memory so they use the cloud more. If users rely on the cloud over local storage, there is a much higher likelihood they'll go over their monthly data cap and get charged for overage. It's likely part of the reason Apple is the only major smartphone manufacturer (that I can think of) that hasn't adopted expandable memory via a MicroSD card slot. A 128GB MicroSD card would allow the majority of people to carry their entire collection of music, videos and pics around. Bandwidth demand would drop and carriers would lose overage revenues.
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Disagree.
Carriers aren't making the phones. Carriers do want people to rely on added data usage but don't want to over-burden data plans which is exactly what streaming 128 gigs of media would do if it weren't onboard.
My media collection is just over a terabyte still and I have no desire to try to stream that even on my unlimited data plan.
BTW, HTC is also on this 'no expandable storage' kick for some reason. I think they're just being cheap on components to maximize profit.
the delay is most likely they're still testing the card to make sure it works as expected on various devices. These cards are used in other devices besides phones.
I highly double carriers have much input into this. The memory makers are always looking for ways to add more storage and a reasonable price for profit. And more and more, mobile devices are not including ways to expand memory; then the phone can be charge for stupid amount for a tiny bit of extra memory.
Like many, I look forward to having the extra memory. I seem to blow through memory on my phone; yet, not on the tablet.
Cant wait till these are out!
I have way too much music, and to be honest, this would be great for carrying roms and kernels with me, as well as other stuff in case I have to do an emergency reflash. 128GB would be dandy to have.
inb42TBCardsby2018.
I'm not super familiar with microSDXC technology, but I have a question -- how do we know a Note II will support a card of this capacity? I thought that the largest card a Note II could support is a 64GB one.
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I'm not super familiar with microSDXC technology, but I have a question -- how do we know a Note II will support a card of this capacity? I thought that the largest card a Note II could support is a 64GB one.
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At the time that the phone was released, the largest capacity sdcx micro card available was 64gb. I suppose that theoretically, the phone might be able to see higher cards when they are released.
8 months ago I bought a SanDisk 64GB micro SD for $56. I think it has been out for almost 2 years. When the 128GB comes out it will drop in price quick. Why? Because they need to get them sold before the 256GB comes out. Then the 512GB. Then the 1TB and so on...
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Asquared said:
I'm not super familiar with microSDXC technology, but I have a question -- how do we know a Note II will support a card of this capacity? I thought that the largest card a Note II could support is a 64GB one.
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What really matters is that this phone supports microSDXC, so it should support any size microSDXC. All of my android phones worked with the 64gb microSDXC even though this is the first one that officially supported it.

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