Tilt Pricing Catch-22 Help - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I am trying to buy an ATT TILT +PDA personal MAX plan - should be easy? No!
Regular pricing shows TILT $399 less 2 X $50 MIR = $299 and plan $39.99
However, I registered as Premier and found out to my dismay that as a Premier customer I am charged $399.99 (and no mention of MIR) and even worse - the PDA personal MAX plan is $44.99. I am qualified for upgrade - no problem.
Question is simple - how can I order (obviously to my existing number and voice plan) at the "advertised" prices and not at the special Premier prices which turn out to be more expensive.
I know it sounds weird - HELP

Wrong, a little
Premiere shows at $399 persistently until the second you add a data plan. Then the price drops to $299 which is the same as the in-store pricing after the 2 x $50 rebates.
At least that is my premiere experience.

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AT&T Tilt now available on Premier Website

Just logged in to my company's AT&T Premier site - the Tilt is available now for $399 (!). I was hoping for $299 before rebates......
warwickwebb said:
Just logged in to my company's AT&T Premier site - the Tilt is available now for $399 (!). I was hoping for $299 before rebates......
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P.S. Looks like I can upgrade to the Tilt (no new contract) for $399 as well - I chose 'Upgrade Device Only', which allowed me to keep my current plan unchanged (including my trusty Medianet service).
yep, i was just getting ready to post this..
Included Accessories
1350 mAh Lithium Ion Polymer Battery
AC Wall Charger
Mini USB Sync Cable
Stylus
Extra Sylus
My wallet is at work and AT&T has the Tilt ready for me
Yeah I was hoping for a better price too. If you do the upgrade device only, I know it leaves your plan intact. Does it extend your contract 2 years though?
Where the heck is PDA Personal Max? Does anyone have it in their list? I HAVE a cell card, I don't need tethering, dagnabit!
And no data plan discount? We're better off getting it from the retail site!
YodaJM said:
Yeah I was hoping for a better price too. If you do the upgrade device only, I know it leaves your plan intact. Does it extend your contract 2 years though?
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I'm wondering the same thing - I got to the very end of the process and had to click to agree to a Service Agreement that specified 2yrs. I asked this same question in another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334349&page=3
Richard
I had an option to upgrade the phone only for 399 or upgrade the device and plan as well..so i tried to see if price is goona changed it did,instant 100$ off and 25 dollar instant credit..275 plus tax and 18 dollar upgrade fee because I bought the 8525 like 3 months ago. because it seemed like I bought new plan and data plan,I can get the 100 MIR as well,they won't have esxuce not to give,,I saved 225$..so I really don't understand the big deal if they exttend the contract you know..if a better phone comes I can do the same process over and over again,with out having to wait 2 years,,so the money I will save over time is justified if I have to abondan my contract and pay 175$ one day.. what do you guys think?
hayaticik said:
II really don't understand the big deal if they exttend the contract you know
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FWIW, in the other thread I referenced above, at least one person has confirmed contract extension showing on his account after the $399 deal
As far as the "big deal" on contract, my company pays for my phone and the monthly bill is a LOT more than I'd carry personally. I don't want to be at my company's mercy if they decide they don't need me to have a phone (or don't need me at all) with 23 mos left on a contract. Sure, they *SHOULD* cover the ETF but why risk it....
Richard
in your case yeah its a big deal but for me when I just saved over 200 with the extention,I don't mind the possibility to be punished 175 only. 399+tax VS 274.99+tax is a difference that I can't let go,couldn't live with myself haha.I can extent again in 6 months if they come up with a better phone..so I am in control and getting the discounts ..you know...but for you ,no contract is clean and necessary..

How much did you pay for your Tytn II/Kaiser/Tilt?

Just curious.
I bought my AT&T Tilt for $99 (after a $100 rebate) from Cartoys Online.
I've heard of people paying as much as $1000 for their phone. I assume thats for an unlocked unbranded version.
How much did you pay?
$399, with two $50 rebates, bringing it to $299 (with a 2yr contract, new account), bought it about two weeks after launch for ATT
I paid $150 AR during AT&T's black Friday sale on Premier. I almost paid $300 for it second hand, but the guy from craigslist flaked out on me... twice. I'm glad he did though. The $800 price tag you've seen going around was for the HTC Kaiser (TyTN II) which has the front-facing camera.
I bought mine (A genuine TytnII with all on board (except the video driver) ) 27.500 New Taiwan Dollar
Must be some 800 USD indeed.
I paid -100 dollars!
$250 in store with 2 year contract -100 mail in rebate.
I also got another line with a $50 mail in rebate and sold the phone that came with it on eBay for $200. Paid 0 in store for that phone (Samsung a737)
So in total I put $100 in my pocket... my girlfriend kept her unlocked V3 (I know, pretty mean...)
$1140 AUD Outright
I could have gotten it cheaper online but never underestimate the value of a local warranty Plus it came with the full version of Copilot Live 7 and an after-market screen protector.
Wasnt cheap... but worth it. HTC gear is hard to find in Perth.
$600 CAD from Craigslist
mine was free! well, almost. $50 insurance deductable.
800 CAD local
£480.00 each, we bought six of them (!!!)
Mine was free from orange with my upgraded contract
i paid £50 ($100) on a 12 month £20 ($40) a month contract
paid $870.00 AUD delivered, its HK stock though, so the power plug is different. warrenty is via local which is good.
ran it for 1 day as stock, then flashed dutty v4.....very happy.
KC
Bought a TyTN II from 3 Australia for 1049 AUD, so thats like 947 USD. expensive but worth it!
Drooch
Bought mine on Expansys for 660 euros...and i tought it was the cheapest price around!
It's absourd that in an italian store a kaiser costs not less than 800 euros while in the US you can buy it for nothing...
Paid £105 as an upgrade phone from T-Mobile on a 1 year (£35 a month) contract.
It's very interessting to see how much the Kaiser cost in different countrys.
My contract in Germany included a pay-out of 100€.
So I paid for my Kaiser (VPA 1615v; incl. all monthly fees) 280€ or 410$
I didn't pay anything since it's a company phone. But they paid $299.
I bought mine with a two year contract at bestbuy for $325.00 with a plan of 65 or lower....
with a plan of 65 or higher it cost you $299.00.
I gave in an old cellphone so that they can discount $30.00.
$340 off Craig's List, and work will reimburse me $100. Will sell once (if?) T-Mobile USA rolls out their 3G.

Best place to by a TyTN II? (in the US)

Hi I’ve been angsting over which device to buy and finally decided on the tytnii so now I’ve been searching around for good places to buy it (at good prices). Places like expansys seem to be out (horrible reviews) and most other places seem to be selling it in the mid $700 range. Amazon seems to be the best bet at the moment (not ideal but can settle) however I wanted to check and see if anyone else could recommend any better places for cheaper prices.
A wee bit of background. I’m working in Afghanistan at the moment, will be going back to the states in about a week (then coming back to Afg). Sh*t happens here so it seems like getting a warranty/insurance would be a good idea (looking at squaretrade.com at the moment) which would set me back an additional $180 or so.
Any suggestions on getting a phone for a better price, insurance, etc would really be appreciated!
Cheers
-Gaiko
You didn't mention who your provider is. If you have ATT you can get them new for $549.99 (retail price) and if you don't mind signing a 2 year contract on the line you can get a good deal below:
New ($299):
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...etails/?device=AT&T+Tilt(TM)&q_sku=sku1060009
Refurbished (149.99):
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...s/?device=AT&T+Tilt+(Refurb)&q_sku=sku1190046
As for insurance I've seen this place recommended a lot:
http://www.safeware.com/
if u r going to sign 2yr than get from amazon.com as they have fantastic prices.
p.s. i got mine for 75 after 50.00 mail in rebate w/2yr.
Amazon has a great price, but the fine print. Conditional $250 Discount
The Price listed above for this phone includes an instant $250 discount from Amazon.com. You agree to repay this $250 discount to Amazon.com if, during the six-month period following the activation date or renewal date of your existing contract, you: (1) fail to pay your balance due each month on time; (2) fail to maintain your account in good standing; (3) disconnect the line of service; (4) transfer the phone to another line of service; (5) change your service rate plan, including canceling or removing required PDA, BlackBerry, or smartphone features after your product has shipped; or (6) use this line of service to replace an existing account with the carrier. The discount is available only if you are activating a new non-substitute line of service or extending an existing line of service. If you do not follow these rules, you authorize Amazon.com to charge your credit card $250 as reimbursement of the discount without need for further approval."
I would stick with AT&T.
Buy it here, service is really good and prices are the best:
R & D Marketing, LLC
http://www.networkingrus.com/
They also sell on ebay:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnetworkingrus
i bought this phone and im still not 100% convinced by it.
its got a lot of capablities and features but i wouldnt pay more than $200 for it...
i personally paid more than $400 for mine just 2 weeks ago.
sandro.1971 said:
Buy it here, service is really good and prices are the best:
R & D Marketing, LLC
http://www.networkingrus.com/
They also sell on ebay:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnetworkingrus
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Sale Price $ 648.95
The front camera isn't work that much to me. I can get a tilt for a lot cheaper.
PsyOpWarlord said:
You didn't mention who your provider is. If you have ATT you can get them new for $549.99 (retail price) and if you don't mind signing a 2 year contract on the line you can get a good deal below:
New ($299):
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...etails/?device=AT&T+Tilt(TM)&q_sku=sku1060009
Refurbished (149.99):
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...s/?device=AT&T+Tilt+(Refurb)&q_sku=sku1190046
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Dude, I'm working in Afghanistan; thanks though.
sandro.1971 said:
Buy it here, service is really good and prices are the best:
R & D Marketing, LLC
http://www.networkingrus.com/
They also sell on ebay:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnetworkingrus
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Wow, thats about $100 cheaper thanks! (thier ebay cred seems to be good but i can't find much else about them in terms of cust satisf though).
PsyOpWarlord said:
As for insurance I've seen this place recommended a lot:
http://www.safeware.com/
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Thanks, the policy looks nice but the cost is a bit out of my range ($200/1yr where as the other is $186/3yrs)

Saveing some money on the s6 edge !!!!!!

I just got the s6 edge 128gb pre ordered threw att's web site. I called customer service and told them Verizon is
selling there phone for 899.99 were att is selling it for 1014.99 so a difference of 115 dollars they credited my account
115 dollars and I payed full price so no contract for me. My contract was up last November so i waited for the s6 to come out.
I figured i would go back on a 2 tear plan but there isn't really any savings. The phone is 500 dollars buy they told me my
monthly rate goes up buy 15 dollars a month so take 15 dollars multiply it buy the time 24 months and add 360 dollars to the cost of the
phone. So the cost of the phone now is 860 dollars so for a 30 dollar difference i bought the phone and no contract. The next program
is a joke. But anyway i figured i would pass this info along so others might benefit from the savings. Have a good one
negev said:
. The next program
is a joke. But anyway i figured i would pass this info along so others might benefit from the savings. Have a good one
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yes. the NEXT is a joke. 2 years contract is no joke !
i have a old family plan with 3 lines, only 1st line has internet with 2GB data, the other 2 lines is just dumb phones, i paying average around 110$ a month.
but i getting S6 GOLD 64gb for 399$ plus taxes + upgrade fee, it' about 500$.
netnerd said:
yes. the NEXT is a joke. 2 years contract is no joke !
i have a old family plan with 3 lines, only 1st line has internet with 2GB data, the other 2 lines is just dumb phones, i paying average around 110$ a month.
but i getting S6 GOLD 64gb for 399$ plus taxes + upgrade fee, it' about 500$.
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How is next a joke? It'd actually cheaper to get phones through next compared to signing 2 years contracts on the new MS value plans 10gb +. It's simply an installment plan on the full retail price...
How much you paying Next with 10gb data a month? Plus full price on phone. I don't need no 10gb a month.
If you were gonna pay full price for the phone and you're with AT&T should have bought the T-Mobile variant and unlock it... Why? Because the T-Mobile variant would have worked with AT&t LTE and it would have a unlocked bootloader. Taking for previews Samsung phones the T-Mobile variant have most of the bands and unlocked bootloader. If you're Verizon should have wait for the Dev Edition
negev said:
I just got the s6 edge 128gb pre ordered threw att's web site. I called customer service and told them Verizon is
selling there phone for 899.99 were att is selling it for 1014.99 so a difference of 115 dollars they credited my account
115 dollars and I payed full price so no contract for me. My contract was up last November so i waited for the s6 to come out.
I figured i would go back on a 2 tear plan but there isn't really any savings. The phone is 500 dollars buy they told me my
monthly rate goes up buy 15 dollars a month so take 15 dollars multiply it buy the time 24 months and add 360 dollars to the cost of the
phone. So the cost of the phone now is 860 dollars so for a 30 dollar difference i bought the phone and no contract. The next program
is a joke. But anyway i figured i would pass this info along so others might benefit from the savings. Have a good one
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More or less, companies price everything so that you pretty much have minimal to no savings on the contract. Sometimes, you even lose money, depending on whether or not you can get the device cheaper online or which model you're getting. Paying full price up front, however, is usually not recommended, mainly due to inflation and opportunity cost. That being said, 2 year contracts are usually the worst of the options, especially since they make you pay the tax of the full price of the device. If you're in a state without sales tax, this discrepancy can work in your favor.
inkrededibles said:
That being said, 2 year contracts are usually the worst of the options, especially since they make you pay the tax of the full price of the device. If you're in a state without sales tax, this discrepancy can work in your favor.
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i dont have the NEXT plan, dont you also pay sales taxes on it also? like on the first bill ?

I did the math on Verizon's pricing options. Here's my analysis

For anyone wondering, I did the math on the three options provided by Verizon in terms of paying for the S6 Edge. Here are my equations, where n is sales tax. If you want to find out the cost where you live, replace n with (1+your sales tax). So if your sales tax is 9%, n=1.09:
32 GB
Verizon Edge: (29.16)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 299.99+[699.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (699.99)n=
64GB
Verizon Edge: (33.33)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 399.99+[799.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (799.99)n=
128GB
Verizon Edge: (37.49)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 499.99+[899.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (899.99)n=
For example purposes, I calculated with a sales tax of 9%. At 9%:
32 GB
Verizon Edge: $735.83
2 Yr Contract: $755.39
Full Price: $762.99
64GB
Verizon Edge: $871.91
2 Yr Contract: $864.39
Full Price: $871.99
128GB
Verizon Edge: $980.74
2 Yr Contract: $973.39
Full Price: $980.99
This only the device, not the amount you'll be spending per month in terms of data and minutes. However, the 15 dollar discount you receive for being off-contract is included in the price difference when compared to the 2 Yr Contract. I also didn't include any promotions held by Samsung, Verizon, or any other companies, as to keep this relevant for future readers.
In conclusion, inflation makes the difference between Verizon Edge and 2 Yr Contract negligible, so if you're on the fence, choose whatever you're comfortable with. Inflation also makes it much cheaper for you to pay through Verizon Edge instead of paying everything up front. So unless you're getting a significant discount somehow through a different dealer or Amazon or something, don't purchase the phone with a single payment.
+ no $40 activation fee for Verizon Edge
+ $100 bill credit to the new customer for Verizon Edge
No that best buy also sells phone with Verizon Edge, but the price is $150 higher than the Verizon Shop. I ordered mine from Verizon. I miss the preorder bonus from best buy (wireless charger), but I can find cheaper chargers in Amazon ($10 duracell bundle)
inkrededibles said:
For anyone wondering, I did the math on the three options provided by Verizon in terms of paying for the S6 Edge. Here are my equations, where n is sales tax. If you want to find out the cost where you live, replace n with (1+your sales tax). So if your sales tax is 9%, n=1.09:
32 GB
Verizon Edge: (29.16)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 299.99+[699.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (699.99)n=
64GB
Verizon Edge: (33.33)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 399.99+[799.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (799.99)n=
128GB
Verizon Edge: (37.49)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 499.99+[899.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (899.99)n=
For example purposes, I calculated with a sales tax of 9%. At 9%:
32 GB
Verizon Edge: $735.83
2 Yr Contract: $755.39
Full Price: $762.99
64GB
Verizon Edge: $871.91
2 Yr Contract: $864.39
Full Price: $871.99
128GB
Verizon Edge: $980.74
2 Yr Contract: $973.39
Full Price: $980.99
This only the device, not the amount you'll be spending per month in terms of data and minutes. However, the 15 dollar discount you receive for being off-contract is included in the price difference when compared to the 2 Yr Contract. I also didn't include any promotions held by Samsung, Verizon, or any other companies, as to keep this relevant for future readers.
In conclusion, inflation makes the difference between Verizon Edge and 2 Yr Contract negligible, so if you're on the fence, choose whatever you're comfortable with. Inflation also makes it much cheaper for you to pay through Verizon Edge instead of paying everything up front. So unless you're getting a significant discount somehow through a different dealer or Amazon or something, don't purchase the phone with a single payment.
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I actually did something quite similar but I simply went through the process twice on Verizon's device and plan pages.
For an S6 Edge using their 'Edge' service plan it worked out to $101.30 per month, basic service, 2GB, no addons, pre tax.
For an S6 under 2 year contract it came out to $72 and change plus the $349.99.
Running those numbers, the Edge plan cost $2431.20 over the course of 24 months. (taxes and fee's extra)
The contract rate however was $1735.2 + the $349.99 = $2085.19! (taxes and fees extra)
Now, there's the activation fee pay right? then that $30 discount for renewal but in my case an additional $100 for phone trade and the $50 mail in rebate.
Anyway, I realize your mileage may vary but according to the numbers I got off of Verizon's website, the Edge plan is an absolutely terrible option. Maybe multiple lines or large data plans might change that but for me the difference was roughly $486 savings to go with the contract.
Food for thought.
I guess you didn't count $15 / month discount for the customers with Edge program.
So basically you have to subtract 15*24 = $360 from the price.
I saw an article somewhere around the internet.. and it actually was the same price for both contract and edge including the activation fee.
But new customers are likely get $100 more benefit from the edge.
Again, existing customers can get a free gift if preorder through Best Buy.
Causality said:
I actually did something quite similar but I simply went through the process twice on Verizon's device and plan pages.
For an S6 Edge using their 'Edge' service plan it worked out to $101.30 per month, basic service, 2GB, no addons, pre tax.
For an S6 under 2 year contract it came out to $72 and change plus the $349.99.
Running those numbers, the Edge plan cost $2431.20 over the course of 24 months. (taxes and fee's extra)
The contract rate however was $1735.2 + the $349.99 = $2085.19! (taxes and fees extra)
Now, there's the activation fee pay right? then that $30 discount for renewal but in my case an additional $100 for phone trade and the $50 mail in rebate.
Anyway, I realize your mileage may vary but according to the numbers I got off of Verizon's website, the Edge plan is an absolutely terrible option. Maybe multiple lines or large data plans might change that but for me the difference was roughly $486 savings to go with the contract.
Food for thought.
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I did a 2-year contract upgrade and not sure if it was noted or not but there was a $40 upgrade fee included as well.
Hey, nice to make your acquaintance.
Unfortunately the numbers still don't pan out. I just went through and did it again, this time the contract price came out to $80 per month. not sure why I saw $72 last time and $80 this time but....
Anyway, That's the monthly price minus fees and taxes. I didn't forget to add anything, Verizon did it all on their checkout page. 80*24+40-30+200=2130.
2 year Edge: 2430
2 year Contract: 2130
I was wrong in saying $486 and for that, my bad, but no matter how you slice it, contract is cheaper for a single line plan. Unless you need to upgrade often I just can't see the point. Then again, I've been on Verizon since the bastards absorbed Alltel years ago. Now that was a good company. I've never been particularly fond of Verizon but... I'm a CDMA guy so I don't see that I have much of a choice.
Edge is cheaper.
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Edge is cheaper.
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I'm sure it is for some. For a single line, 2GB plan, no, it is not. Go to Verizon and price them both out... It's all there on their page.
Also, I believe at the higher-tier plans, you get a $25/mo discount off, not just $15. Here is a good website that breaks it down:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/03/29/galaxy-s6-verizon-edge-vs-verizon-2-year-contract-prices/
eyc said:
Also, I believe at the higher-tier plans, you get a $25/mo discount off, not just $15. Here is a good website that breaks it down:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/03/29/galaxy-s6-verizon-edge-vs-verizon-2-year-contract-prices/
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Yep minimum 8GB of data gives you -25$ Discount so add that 25$x24 months. (as a saving)
patt2k said:
Yep minimum 8GB of data gives you -25$ Discount so add that 25$x24 months. (as a saving)
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*6GB
Masciale said:
*6GB
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Yea i realized my mistake later was to lazy to edit lol
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My analysis goes like this....
I HAVE to have 64gb. 32 if MicroSD would be fine. But... that means 64 is a must since no more MicroSD.
I have unlimited data. If I go to Edge or renew my contract (I am off contract for over a year) I am forced onto a new plan AND loose unlimited. When I did the math on the prices/costs/fees of a new plan over 2 years (and unlimited data loss) VERSUS just outright keeping the phone and plan and data and no contract I have now, buying the phone outright wins in a dollars to dollars comparison.
9% sales tax omg where is that at!?!
California - many cities have 8-9 percent sakes tax.
Edge is more beautiful than S6 I think.
patt2k said:
Yep minimum 8GB of data gives you -25$ Discount so add that 25$x24 months. (as a saving)
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I have no idea if VZW was bull****ting with me, but they said that if you are on a family plan and the aggregate total data the family can use is at a certain level (in my wife's case, 16 GB), then everyone on the plan can get $25/mo off by switching to Edge. That sounded too good to be true, but they let my wife go to Edge and save $25/mo on the family plan.
eyc said:
I have no idea if VZW was bull****ting with me, but they said that if you are on a family plan and the aggregate total data the family can use is at a certain level (in my wife's case, 16 GB), then everyone on the plan can get $25/mo off by switching to Edge. That sounded too good to be true, but they let my wife go to Edge and save $25/mo on the family plan.
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they trolling you don't worry. All that has to be is at least 6GB data plan for -25$ either out of contract or on edge. Can't really believie reps these days especially last month they tried to make do an upgrade like twice when I was asking for something else and out of nowhere they were telling me that I asked for upgrade 2 weeks earlier and I never did lol.
patt2k said:
they trolling you don't worry. All that has to be is at least 6GB data plan for -25$ either out of contract or on edge. Can't really believie reps these days especially last month they tried to make do an upgrade like twice when I was asking for something else and out of nowhere they were telling me that I asked for upgrade 2 weeks earlier and I never did lol.
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Yea, I hear ya. So, let's say 4 people are on a family plan that has 12GB/month total data available. Can all 4 people go on Edge and each save $25? That's what VZW was telling me.
eyc said:
Yea, I hear ya. So, let's say 4 people are on a family plan that has 12GB/month total data available. Can all 4 people go on Edge and each save $25? That's what VZW was telling me.
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In this case yes unless I misunderstood your last post that would be correct. As long as there is a minimum of 6GB data package on all your lines you would get 25$/per line per-edge phone or if you are out of contract.
Hope that helps

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