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Hey guys,
I'm looking around for a PDA, I've never really had one before but I really like the sound of the Kaiser.
Does O2 (UK) have a Kaiser based product?
Many Thanks
I have read a couple of things which suggest that O2 don't intend to pick up the Kaiser. Not sure how accurate the source information is though.
I doubt it!
I've been hoping since I first saw the Kaiser that O2 would be picking it up to release this year, as my contract runs out in November so I was going to upgrade to it then...
But since they've only just released the TyTN as the XDA Trion in the last couple of months, and that phone has been with every other network for over a year, I doubt very much they'll replace their "flagship" phone I suppose with a new one inside 6 months :-(
Yeh, I think you are probably right myk_83.
I have to say I can't imagine going back ot O2 now anyway. I used to be with O2 and they were fine, a good company, but with phones like this I find the Tmobile Web'n'Walk incredible value for money.
Unlimited data (within reason ) for under a tenner a month, compared to the other networks per mb charging. It is no exaggeration to say that my data use would cost me a couple of hundred pounds per month on the other networks
Awww man!
Say it isn't so!
I've been with O2 for 18 months now - on just a regular phone - and I've been really impressed with them, I've no experience with there data services but I'd hate to have to switch networks.
Osbornaldo said:
Say it isn't so!
I've been with O2 for 18 months now - on just a regular phone - and I've been really impressed with them, I've no experience with there data services but I'd hate to have to switch networks.
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Yeh, I never had any problems with O2, they were a good company. With these types of phones though, chances are you are going to want to download your emails, surf the net etc... and you will find that your data use creeps up faster than you realise.
I am not sure what O2 are currently charging but generally the other networks seem to charge around £3 to £4 (it used to be £7.50 per mb with most networks!!) per megabyte of data. I wouldn't consider myself a particularly heavy data user but I have used 40mb in a month before now which would cost me a fortune!
With Tmobile, it is just £7.50 per month ... big difference.
Aye,
E-mails and web connectivity are a large part of my needs.
I'm also looking at the possibility of developing custom apps to make me more productive (I'm a .Net developer by trade) and these apps would often rely on connectivity to the web.
I don't want to switch providers... but I'm starting to feel it may be inevitable.
Yeh, it may be the way to go. I haven't looked at O2's tarriffs though since I got my Vario 2 a year ago so perhaps they now offer a data plan, they didn't then but they might now. It's worth asking.
Only thing I would say about Tmobile is that in my area there is limited 3G coverage which means for the most part I am on the slower GPRS connection. This doesn't bother me at all but would bother some who use the video calling or need a faster connection. If you decide that it is time to try a new network, if you need 3G, check on the coverage for your area first.
... also, you can take your number to Tmobile if you need to, I did and it was nice and easy.
O2 Data
I think O2 include 1mb of browsing with their contract tariffs for free, and then they charge £3 for 2mb, or £5 for 4mb as bolt-ons. For me, that's not much of a problem, because pretty much everywhere that I'm not driving and can use my phone there's a wi-fi network I can access, so I very rarely use GPRS (can't use 3G at the minute cos I have a Wizard).
I can see this being pretty useless tho if you ever use GPRS or 3G internet, as I've noticed most pages loading about 150-200kb on average, so that's only gonna be about 10 sites with the 2mb package :-/ I guess it depends on what you use it for, and like I said, it probably wouldn't bother me, but it'd be nice to have 3G and be able to use it without paying a bundle!
There's not much chance of O2 selling the Kaiser tho, and although O2 in general have been pretty good to me for about 10 years, they don't seem overly fussed with PDA phones in general (they never did an AKU 3.x upgrade for the Mini S, and stuck at 2) and are slow to upgrade models, so I'm gonna check around when my contract's up and just try and move my number wherever I go.
Bit of a knee jerk reaction... but I think I'm already sold on T-mobile.
I just need to check coverage because I work in a few remote locations.
Crikey Mate!
I work in the sticks - but according to T-mobile's website there 3G coverage is at absolute maximum in my area plus very good @ home and the other sites I work...
Really do have no excuses now
I'm also on O2 and my contract is running out in December....T-mobile seems like a good bet IMO....what's the Kaiser named on T-Mobile?
budo*85 said:
I'm also on O2 and my contract is running out in December....T-mobile seems like a good bet IMO....what's the Kaiser named on T-Mobile?
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When it gets released, it will be branded as the MDA Vario 3 I think
myk_83 said:
I've been hoping since I first saw the Kaiser that O2 would be picking it up to release this year, as my contract runs out in November so I was going to upgrade to it then...
But since they've only just released the TyTN as the XDA Trion in the last couple of months, and that phone has been with every other network for over a year, I doubt very much they'll replace their "flagship" phone I suppose with a new one inside 6 months :-(
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I have no information on this at all, just an opinion. The Kaiser is a direct replacement for the Exec, which is 2 years old & can't be selling much now. There is a definite case for O2 to replace the Exec with what is essentially HTC's best ever product & one that would generate them considerable revenues especially data. If I was XDA product mgr at O2 I would be selling the Kaiser straight away.
The matter of data charges is somewhat irrelevant to O2's ability to market this product - anyone who use significant date on O2 should have one of their data tarrifs, mine is for 36Mb per month, I usually have a little left over each month & I leave my emails on all the time & I look at lots of web sites each day.
Either way, I really hope that O2 do market the Kaiser.
I thought that the Omni was going to be the successor of the Exec (Universal), while the Kaiser was the next gen Trion (Hermes).
I'm basing this guess entirely on looks, of course...
Also, I thought that O2 had just got some shiny new XDA device in, as well as their Cocoon. I can't see them getting another (better) device in to overshadow them.
I'm happy to jump ship to T-Mobile, as the O2 data rates are extortionate.
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I thought that the Omni was going to be the successor of the Exec (Universal), while the Kaiser was the next gen Trion (Hermes).
I'm basing this guess entirely on looks, of course...
Also, I thought that O2 had just got some shiny new XDA device in, as well as their Cocoon. I can't see them getting another (better) device in to overshadow them.
I'm happy to jump ship to T-Mobile, as the O2 data rates are extortionate.
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t-mobile suck ass for service tho!
my gf has so many problems with the customer services, network coverage etc etc
Well, my choice appears to be:
Stay with O2 and get no TyTN II (or get it SIM free, which is expensive)
Switch to Orange, Vodafone or T-Mobile and get it on contract.
My O2 contract runs out at the end of September.
Interesting...
according to the announcement today, the group that owns O2 will be getting it, so you may be in luck if you hold on with your current contract.
personally i'd move to tmo, they're pretty committed to developing all their 3G services
Expansys appear to be able to sell the Kaiser on O2 & Voda contracts, might be worth a call.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=258736&view=findpost&p=840064
Gordon
I'm curious, where is everyone buying their TyTN IIs? I almost got burned on a purchase through eBay (decent rating, but had to file a claim to get my refund).
I looked at smart-mobile-gadgets.com which looks pretty legit. They even have the version with TomTom in stock, and a good price. However when I called the number it went to a generic 'the person @ is unavailable' voicemail box.
I know it's carried at the XDA store but there's no guarantees yet on versions (I want TomTom) and I need the phone sooner rather than later.
On top of that, I've looked into becomming a reseller but none of my distributors carry it either, and I'm getting a lot of runaround from HTC America.
Any suggestions or stories of good experiences of your purchase? Please share!
i bought my unit from supergps - but it was faulty so i sent it back - they said they couldnt reproduce the fault and sent it back to me - so ive now got back to them and have asked for my money back - we'll see what happens - i will probably be buying the next kaiser from someone else who has a bit of credibility to their name (i dunno, maybe expansys)
i bought mine from phonesource-usa.com's store front in las vegas. It had tomtom, uk plug, and no us adapter. no hassles. only caveat is the 14 day return policy. my unit has a bad pixel, but i didn't feel like fussing over it (assuming they would have exchanged it anyway).
i'd buy from them again.
the XDA-Store has a great Deal: http://store.xda-developers.com/HTCTyTNII-unlocked.html
Comes with TomTom and US adapter for the UK plug
I bought from MobilePlanet, myself. And got a discount for getting the AT&T plan through them (need to call their CS to get that).
I would ask a question, though - if you're in the US and don't already own maps for TomTom, you're likely to end up unable to use the taster version that's included. The maps you can select from are relatively small (the LA area is three maps, for example), and I haven't run into anyone who could purchase additional maps for the included version without popping for TomTom 6 anyway.
So if you're in the US, you might want to reduce the importance of TomTom on your purchase decision.
I'm looking for this phone (s730) at lower price.. i need number 2 devices.. who can make me better price? thank you!
goolpone said:
I'm looking for this phone (s730) at lower price.. i need number 2 devices.. who can make me better price? thank you!
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http://www.katshing.se/prod/prod.asp?aid=15307&ref=prisjakt 3 599 SEK = 545,34 $ = 374,82 €
@goolpone: It also depends on where do you come from: Africa, Asia, Usa, Europe? ;-)
geaerally? eBay my friend.
I'm italian, is there any body who want to sell his/her s730?.. i need 2 devices for $500/$520.. sameone?..
I found many people selling it through "second hand" stores in our country. Try to do the same with google focused on your country area with keywords / sell HTC s730 price / of course in your native language (sell, price).
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i need 2 devices for $500/$520..
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So you want someone to sell you 2 phones that retail for around $500-550 new for the price of one? The European model has only been out for a few months and AFAIK not picked up by networks yet.
I think you need to either set your price higher or wait for network upgrades to filter on the market. It's when people get 'free' or heavily subsidised phones they don't need that second-hand deals start becoming attractive.
But good luck!
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i need 2 devices for $500/$520.. sameone?..
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Sure hope thats each, unless someone got theirs for free no one would sell two for what they payed for one, and if it was a pre - prod unit...
but there are not carreer like vodafone, o2, cingular that sell it for a contract? and sameone that coul resell it? i know it's possible and yet done
Did you try my recommendation? I found the second hand phones (one month old = warranty) on 500 dollars level in CZ. I think that in your country you will find the same. There are many people disillusioned by RAM, ATI drivers, GPS lacks.
For a new phone such as this, you'd perhaps be better off trying on ebay
Do not forget that price on ebay is sometimes "penalized" by paying also the TAX and VAT to your custom.
My S730 is brandnew and im already so fed up with it.
Im going to sell it on ebay in the comming days.
I will also post the link to the auction on this forum for you to use.
It means that you are not satisfied by s730 and you will switch to different producer? As f.e. jocky.d? If yes, I have some favorites.
share your favorites then roomish....as I too am getting annoyed with my S730 and ebay is calling
It is so pitty - S730 could be so cool smartphone.
Well my favorites:
Asus P750 - although it has only 64MB - the free memory is about 20MB, the phone is handy sized
iPAQ 614c - very cheap, little bigger
I-mate 8502 - qwerty keyboard
All models are on the market only few days.
I've only had this thing since last week and I think I'm going to return it. The memory leak is horrible, not to mention there isn't enough of it to begin with. If I browse to a non-mobile url using IE, the browser closes since there isn't enough memory! The keyboard is slow and if I type fast, misses letters and I have to go back. A few times I have placed calls and they route through the speaker phone even though I haven't activated it and the entire phone locks up. Don't buy this phone, it sucks. I should have bought a Tytn II, at least then I would have working GPS.
I was after something a little smaller but with features.....
I liked the size of my old C600 but obviously you get more the bigger you get :s
and does anyone want to buy an S730?
4sale HTC S730
HTC S730 for sale.
12 month old contract is running out (I am changing the company I am working for)- fully working with 2GB SD Card
VB 220€
[email protected]
Was bought in October 2007. There is still 1 year garantie on it till October 2008.
Sold for 284,38. Thanks
12 months old? It must be preproduction model!?
New iphone??
Seems like 3G iphone is ready for delivery. I wonder if it has GPS as well. That could very well make it something to consider as an alternative to the Kaiser... I love my Kaiser, but my wife has an iphone and it does do certain things better. With Jailbreak, there are plenty of cool apps too. I even found a voice command app. Pretty much fill most of the gaps...
but it still doesnt have the hardware qwerty keyboard for me and i'm not a iphone fanboy...just me though
I'll jump ship to the iphone if they update their browser to support flash. i'm still disappointed that after all this time (deepfish, opera 9.5 beta) their isnt a comparable browser out there for windows mobile. Opera mini is really good, but not as good as it could get
Steve Jobs is going to have a press conference on monday 6/9 (which is today for some users). I hear that at&t were able to get him to commit to release the new iphone at $199.99 w/2 year contract.
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Steve Jobs is going to have a press conference on monday 6/9 (which is today for some users). I hear that at&t were able to get him to commit to release the new iphone at $199.99 w/2 year contract.
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If that's true...I will certainly buy one for that price...for $200 you can't beat that.
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If that's true...I will certainly buy one for that price...for $200 you can't beat that.
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inside info suggest that the device will start below current two year contract price or significantly less I received information that the device would be between 199.99-299.99. We will see in about 12 hrs if Jobs mentions pricing.
redbandana said:
Steve Jobs is going to have a press conference on monday 6/9 (which is today for some users). I hear that at&t were able to get him to commit to release the new iphone at $199.99 w/2 year contract.
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Vodacom which has the largest user base in South Africa has been granted the distribution rights for the Iphone. Vodacom is 50% owned by Vodafone and 50% by Telkom, the local fixed line operator.
We will be getting the gereration 2 version, but apart from it's 3G capabilities we will have to wait for the announcement today. Shipping will apparently start immediately.
The only down side here is that we do not have a Itunes Store so we cannot use that side of it's functionality.
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Vodacom which has the largest user base in South Africa has been granted the distribution rights for the Iphone. Vodacom is 50% owned by Vodafone and 50% by Telkom, the local fixed line operator.
We will be getting the gereration 2 version, but apart from it's 3G capabilities we will have to wait for the announcement today. Shipping will apparently start immediately.
The only down side here is that we do not have a Itunes Store so we cannot use that side of it's functionality.
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Howzit basilrsa,
Nice to know that there are other South Africans here!!!
I am not an iPhoney fan anyway, so I will wait for the TyTN III or the SE Xperia X1 maybe.
In the meantime my TyTN II ROCKS!!!
Again, good to meet you boet!!!
Regards,
MAC
WWDC starts at 10 AM PDT, we will get the final specifications then but sites like engadget say:
- It will be 3G (a given, any phone is nowadays)
- But it will not have a front-facing camera for videoconferencing (it seems that it's not a known thing in USA, so if USA does not want it, Apple does not include it)
- It will have GPS receiver (nothing surprising, adding GPS to a phone is only $5)
- No hardware keyboard, typing with finger on a 2.8" screen does not convince me
- As always, closed system, very vendor-centric, very few applications you can run there.
I thought they moved to an open source setup.
I know this is a dumb question, but I rather ask then not know at all. Will the 3G IPhone be able to flash the Window 6.1 instead of there OS. I ask because I don't know if it was a Hoax or if it was for real.......I saw a Iphone that had the WM6 on it. This was a while ago that I saw it............
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I looked more closely, it's not only a hoax it is a fake Iphone...........I'm sorry for this waste of space I just used up..
3g Iphone....
So 199 out July 11th... think it will be unlocked by then? If so might need to try it out, even though I hate apple with a passion.
Just announced... 3G iPhone... For those who care, Engadget link.
I'm thinking I'm going to try out that new iphone. If it sucks and I don't like it, I'm only out $200 and then I can most likely sell it on ebay for more than i paid...haha.
is it 200 with a new contract or without?
i'd suspcect with
as apple cant get their cut of each mb downloaded if iphone3gs are sold without a contract
Personally I still cringe inside regarding the Iphone. My next phone will be either a X1, HTC Touch Diamond Pro, or the Nokia N96 (can't go wrong with an internal 16GB + SD slot for additional memory + accelatometer(sp?). Variety and change is always good though.
I'm sad that it still uses the same lame camera
I kinda wanted an iPhone but only if it had GPS...the new one does....hmmmm....let's see!!!
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Just announced... 3G iPhone... For those who care, Engadget link.
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Also you can check out the official website.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/
about time too
upgrade should be next week
Awesome!! I just noticed this myself. I've been waiting for this, my tmobile contract ran out on sunday. I moving to orange because it has better coverage around the crap hole where i live. I can't wait to get my hands on this bad boy
You beat me to the post LOL.
Yep available at http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/htc_touch_diamond/detail/pay_monthly
To be honest i think this is a cracking buy and will be hard to beat.
Dolphin 35 Tarif includes £5 discount so will only cost you £30 month.
600 miins, unlimited texts and unlimited tinternet.
I have also confirmed that they support hsdpa speeds for internet.
I booked mine yesterday and should recieve tomorrow so I get a new toy to play with for the weekend
by the way the phone is only £39.99
Got to be one of the best contracts available IMHO
Yes its out
I ordered mine from http://www.mobiles.co.uk yesterday some good deals there to.
Better than the orange website itself
Should receive mine tomorrow (Fri)
Looks like Orange have finally caught up with tmobile and the rest of the operators offering "unlimited" internet (subject to fair use policy - silly service providers! unlimited should mean unlimited!)
Also looks like Orange are having a reshuffle so lets hope their customer service and retentions teams are gonna do their best to actually keep hold of customers from now on!
I think i would go back to orange, but at the moment, im happy with tmobile, i luckily got my phone from eXpansys so ive got an HTC Diamond, no awful Orange branding there then!
This forums gonna explode over the next few days as people get their new toys!
See story covered here on coolsmartphone...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12620
Interesting to see that the display card (instore) the magazine and the website all have different standby times for this device... lol
Just placed my order.
Great deal for the price. Given up waiting for T-Mobile (even though I slightly prefer the Compact IV looks) and they'd probably work out more expensive anyway.
Just a shame they won't deliver to my work address, so it'll be at least Tuesday before I get it.
Mmm some good deals on there razoruk1974
i looked at mobiles.co.uk But for me the internet is a big thing and the package is only £30 from orange website as opposed to £40 on mobiles.co.uk
mr_Ray, Did you order from Orange cause I should expect you get this Fri or Sat.
I rang up last night at 8pm, I just recieved my text to say the phone has been despatched and should recieve tomorrow.
Quick or what..
I dont care about the orange branding of the rom as this will be the first thing i will change
along with some of the good speed tweaks we have on here.
Let the Diamond forum Rock..
Does anyone know what the fair use policy is for the theoretical unlimited internet package from Orange? This hasn't been that clever for non T-mobile packages in the past.
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Does anyone know what the fair use policy is for the theoretical unlimited internet package from Orange? This hasn't been that clever for non T-mobile packages in the past.
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Orange 'Free unlimited internet' is only free for two months and subject to a 500MB fair use policy.
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Orange 'Free unlimited internet' is only free for two months and subject to a 500MB fair use policy.
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where is that information?
I was not told about any of that when i called!
ukmdb said:
where is that information?
I was not told about any of that when i called!
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call upgrades...you can now get the phone!
just got it for £19.95
650 x network calls...unlimited landline...unlimited text and data for £30
they are going fast....mine is here friday
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Orange 'Free unlimited internet' is only free for two months and subject to a 500MB fair use policy.
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The two months is not true at all but 500mb FUP is
I have seen mention of the 500MB fair use policy
for the Panther call plans
also for the offer : Free mobile access to facebook, Bebo, myspace and flirtomatic subject to a 50MB
Have not seen anything that states the fair use policy for unlimited data package on Dolphin.
liamhere - thats is a cracking deal
liamhere said:
call upgrades...you can now get the phone!
just got it for £19.95
650 x network calls...unlimited landline...unlimited text and data for £30
they are going fast....mine is here friday
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I bet you can not wait for this to arrive tomorrow - if your in a city then it may still arrive by motorbike otherwise it should be DPD (Parceline)
The good thing about the orange customisationis the Orange logo is on the back cover which can be replaced-unless the have changed the dummy model
Just bought mine from the Orange store in Bristol. Looked like they only had one handset in stock.
£35 / month for 600 minutes, 3000 texts and unlimited internet, plus I get £5.50 per month back when I trade in my old handset, taking it to £29.50 / month.
Currently have a TyTn 1, so looking forwward to using a smaller handset with a better interface. The standard WM interface is pretty awful IMHO.
I was torn between the Diamond and the iPhone, but when the reviews came in saying that it *still* didn't support MMS, I decided to go for the Diamond.
It's charging up on my desk right now!
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Just bought mine from the Orange store in Bristol. Looked like they only had one handset in stock.
£35 / month for 600 minutes, 3000 texts and unlimited internet, plus I get £5.50 per month back when I trade in my old handset, taking it to £29.50 / month.
Currently have a TyTn 1, so looking forwward to using a smaller handset with a better interface. The standard WM interface is pretty awful IMHO.
I was torn between the Diamond and the iPhone, but when the reviews came in saying that it *still* didn't support MMS, I decided to go for the Diamond.
It's charging up on my desk right now!
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Nice one - does it still only have the logo on the back? I've had mine a month today
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Just bought mine from the Orange store in Bristol. Looked like they only had one handset in stock.
£35 / month for 600 minutes, 3000 texts and unlimited internet, plus I get £5.50 per month back when I trade in my old handset, taking it to £29.50 / month.
Currently have a TyTn 1, so looking forwward to using a smaller handset with a better interface. The standard WM interface is pretty awful IMHO.
I was torn between the Diamond and the iPhone, but when the reviews came in saying that it *still* didn't support MMS, I decided to go for the Diamond.
It's charging up on my desk right now!
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have you checked the interface yet ?
i am deciding between vodafone and orange (orange reception where I work is not ver good) but will be swayed by who has mucked around with the interface the most.
Orange used to total layer up, but recently their HTC devices have been close to the original in software terms.
Whats your view here after looking at the device ?
If Orange UK uses the same softs as Orange France, the TF3D has been all reskinned (in a better way IMHO), an "analog" clog replaces the nice digital one, no more youtube and google earth but orange TV and Orange navigation, the internet tab is for Orange word, etc.
I sent a screenshot of the clock here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406642 (note that I manage the icon bar using the advanced tool, so it's not in order, and the windows skin is not the default orange one (grey, as for TF3D))
My Orange phone just arrived. I had pre-ordered last week, After loads of transferring. They let me pre-order it. Paying £35 a month 1400 minutes, unlimited Text. Unlimited Net, and insurance and guess what its UNBRANDED!!!!!! IT's GENERIC!!!
CHuFFED !!