Screen Align not working? DOA? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi, Just got my MDA Vario III, and it appears the screen alignment that WM runs on first boot will not work. By that I mean its asks me to align the screen, but it will not register the taps with the stylus or fingers.
However, it does know when I touch the screen as it brings it out of powersave. I downloaded this Remote Screen Alignment program, which is able to skip the screen align process, but then when I have done that the taps from the screen are all over the place - because the screen hasn't been aligned. The keyboad works fine for navigation around the menu's.
Does this sound like a DOA device? Or am I missing something stupid?

foaf said:
Hi, Just got my MDA Vario III, and it appears the screen alignment that WM runs on first boot will not work. By that I mean its asks me to align the screen, but it will not register the taps with the stylus or fingers.
However, it does know when I touch the screen as it brings it out of powersave. I downloaded this Remote Screen Alignment program, which is able to skip the screen align process, but then when I have done that the taps from the screen are all over the place - because the screen hasn't been aligned. The keyboad works fine for navigation around the menu's.
Does this sound like a DOA device? Or am I missing something stupid?
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It might be a simple loose connection or something trapped between screen and bezel. But I would not be even thinking about that, it would be going straight back under warranty. Thankfully, this is not a common problem with the Kaiser and I think you have just been unlucky.
I assume you have not put on any screen protector that might be causing this behaviour> Otherwise it is a DOA and nothing you can/should do other than return.
Mike

Thanks. I hope its not common! No screen protector, but I did try one first before first boot. I immediately removed it when the taps weren't working. I'll send it back tomorrow, thanks.

Dont tap. Just lightly drag the end of the stylus around each target until it proceeds to the next one.
It's common and should be fine.

Thanks unwired. Whilst that does get a response from the TyTn II, and moves the align crosshair, unfortunately it just loops the alignment process indefinitely. Arranged an exchange with T-Mobile without a problem

foaf said:
Thanks unwired. Whilst that does get a response from the TyTn II, and moves the align crosshair, unfortunately it just loops the alignment process indefinitely. Arranged an exchange with T-Mobile without a problem
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If the future device does it, just try what I suggested but be as accurate as you can.

Unwired's method works for me as well. My Kaiser always seems to lose the ability to detect stylus presses (but finger pressure works) every time I use it on a plane which I assume is due to the cabin pressure. When the screen is reset, everything goes back to normal. Has anyone else noticed this, or do I have some defect that is only going to get worse?

I got the second Kaiser, and it happened again. But I immediatley used unwireds method, this time being extremely precise and only moving the stylus slightly. It works fine now, and stylus accurancy seems to be ok.
I still think it's strange, as I have had an HTC XDA before and a tap was sufficient on the screen align process. Furthermore it clearly states "tap screen" not "tap and drag".

My last three Wm devices (Prophet, Hermes and Tytn 2) have all been reticent to respond to alignment taps... but carefully moving the stylus around the target has always fixed it.

unwired4 said:
My last three Wm devices (Prophet, Hermes and Tytn 2) have all been reticent to respond to alignment taps... but carefully moving the stylus around the target has always fixed it.
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For me it is more like 'tap-and-hold'. I make a firm tap on the '+' symbol, then keep the stylus pressed on the screen for one second, then release. The '+' then moves to the next alignment point.

Just for the record, I think the problem is common!
I've seen many people who have unresponsive touchscreens, and now I'm one of those unlucky people. And nothing works. And I don't have warranty because I'm in a different country than the purchase country and the reseller here only services phone bought in the Middle East. #[email protected]$#@$#@

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Screen Alignment Problem

Coming from a P3600 I did read about the TyTN´s screen alignment issues. Nevertheless, I figured that it can´t be the TyTNII will have similar problems.
Well, mine does.....
Pressing one spot on the screen occasionally activates another. Easily recognizable when drawing: I just put down the stylus and instead of a dot I get a line.....
I´ve tried the bussiness card trick but no good. Will wait for the Brando screen protector to arrive and see if it helps. (Right now I have the HTC shipped protector installed, which is a rather poor solution)
edit: new findings:
1. only the left 25-30% (portrait mode) of the screen is affected
2. By pressing fairly hard on the screen I can duplicate the problem in 80% of the attempts
3. Have adjusted the registry value for screen sensitivity to 250......light to normal presses register correctly 95% of the time.
Using the finger instead of the stylus I have 100% success rate
4. Don´t really want to send it in yet for fear of the repair guys just doing a hard reset, testing for 5 seconds and sending it back
Hehe, i got scared at first, i'm pretty sure that's connected to the finger scrolling and is not a hardware issue. You can try to disable TouchFlo (in registry, i don't remember where exactly) and see if it helps, i'm pretty sure it will fix it
About the finger issue: even if we don't get the HTC Touch hardware that detects finger (or so they say) our Kaiser kinda detects finger too, at least i feel like it does, so this strengthens my point about this being connected to TouchFlo

Problem with the touch screen.

I bought my HTC tytn II about a week ago and I am having a problem with the touch screen. Sometimes when I touch for example on the start or on the ok button with the stylus it doesn’t respond from the first time and I must touch again to respond. I have align the screen so that’s not the problem because most of the time it works ok. Can someone please help me with this? Thanks.
Sometimes the corners just need a firmer press where the digitizer layer is held more firmly. So you would need to check whether yours really needs two presses or just a firmer one.
Mike
The problem is not just the corners but the whole screen. Sometimes it just doesn’t respond from the first touch.
After further usage of the device I think it’s not the touch screen that has the problem because when it’s not responding it freezes for about 2-4 sec. and then it’s normal again. Is anyone experiencing this strange behavior? What can it be wrong it drives me crazy! Can please someone help?
My ATT Tilt is doing the same thing. Right now im running the stock ATT Rom with the ATT autoload crap disabled after a clean hard reset.
I notice that when my touch screen stops responding so do the soft keys and function buttons. The device appears to hang-up and **** the bed every once in a while. Its often enough to also drive me crazy as well.

Touchscreen won't work!

My touchscreen won't allow any input. I tried hard reset, reflashing ROM and radio - nothing helps so far. Now it's stuck on the 'tap the screen to setup your device' on the initial setup screen. The buttons work, slide works, but touching the screen won't. Any ideas? I saw the posts about frozen screens, but I don't think this is it.
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My touchscreen won't allow any input. I tried hard reset, reflashing ROM and radio - nothing helps so far. Now it's stuck on the 'tap the screen to setup your device' on the initial setup screen. The buttons work, slide works, but touching the screen won't. Any ideas? I saw the posts about frozen screens, but I don't think this is it.
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Maybe its a loose connection?
Uh - is there a way to tighten it??? ;-)
Any ideas? If the screen is hosed - any suggestions as to who could repair it?
Bump? How about difficulty in replacing the screen on these?
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Bump? How about difficulty in replacing the screen on these?
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just did mine, it's not TOO bad.. just 4 screws and a lot of careful prying but it's definately doable. There is a how to somewhere on here. If I were you I'd try the tool that lets you skip the screen setup and see if your touch screen works otherwise... strange thing is when I try to align my screen right now it freezes my phone on the "align screen" screen... so hopefully that's what is happening to you and you dont need a new screen. so yeah look for the align screen skip and see if it works.
Thanks for the info - I'll look around for the skip alignment tool. I assume the screws were those outer four teeny tiny torx screws?
OK - Dude - how crazy is that... it just started working again. I just kept hitting around on the screen by forcing it to alignment and it's now working. What gives? I saw a post about magnetization screwing up alignment, but this is kind of crazy. It works if I push the screen part of the phone 'south' and then I can tap and get the alignment to complete. Loose connection somewhere, I'll check out those guides to figure out if the ribbon is tight or not.
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OK - Dude - how crazy is that... it just started working again. I just kept hitting around on the screen by forcing it to alignment and it's now working. What gives? I saw a post about magnetization screwing up alignment, but this is kind of crazy. It works if I push the screen part of the phone 'south' and then I can tap and get the alignment to complete. Loose connection somewhere, I'll check out those guides to figure out if the ribbon is tight or not.
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glad to hear you've got it working and saved yourself a headache... you might want to try sliding it open and giving it a squeeze below the screen but above the buttons... that's where the screen attaches to the board... give it a try.
OK - more of a 'tard moment for me - the screen protector was jamming against the screen. I figured that out after I had the whole back off and pried open to look internally to see what was going on and then noticed the screen was working fine with the back off.... oh geeze, time for a stiff drink. Thanks for the suggestions - you guys are cheap therapy bahahahahhaaaa!!!
Look out for dust particles
Glad you found out what was wrong. I would like to add that in general, if a touch screen is unresponsive, examine the device for dust particles stuck between the plastic and the touchscreen. It will be understood as a tap by the touchscreen, thereby rendering your own tabs unrecognized. I've tried that 2 times now.
I had a similar problem with my touchscreen. Sometimes it doesn't recognize my touch with a finger or stylus. I have to keep pushing the same spot for it to register the touch.
Now I took a needle and cleaned the space between plastic and touchscreen. For now it seems that it helped. Lets see how it works for now on.
Thanks.
ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
at leats you admint the retardness
D'oh.. the problem stays. Do I have to open the whole machine, and clean it that way, or can the problem be in the software?
I think, that after a soft reset the screen works properly, but after a little while it overlooks some of my taps.
What SPL are you running? Are you experiencing the 'screen freezes'?
"XDA-Developers HTC Kaiser HardSPL CID Unlocker v1.0" says in the readme.txt file. Does 'screen freezes' mean that I can't do nothing with the screen, or what? What is the SPL's job in the PPC, I thought it was needed only for the OS flashing.
OK, now I know what you mean with screen freeze. It sure does freese. So the problem is not in the touchscreen, but in somewhere else? The whole phone freezes in time to time.
what spl are you running?
OK, I suppose that was a tip. Thanks for the tip. I upgraded my SPL from 1.0 Olipof to HardSPL 3.56.
Everything started going very smoothly for now. Lets see how it keeps being smooth after couple days of using.

Tilt Problems...Help

I have an AT&T Tilt...until Friday it worked great...It has WM6.1, HTC Home and spb Mobile Shell.... Friday I changed the screen protector from the same pack that I have used for months and then the problems started.... Randomly when I try to touch the screen it appears to lock up, but then the start menu will drop down. The soft buttons work, but then every once in a while the start menu will drop down again. I have soft reset to no avail, but then in an hour or so it will start working fine again. Anyone have any ideas, does it sound like a hardware or software problem? should I hard reset the phone and start over? Help
Thanks
Andy
pull off your screen protector.
chances are you have it touching on a side which causes pressure somewhere else and it (touchscreen) thinks its being touched in a different place.
which in turn makes you believe its locked up, since it does not have multi-touch touchscreen it will not respond because it is perceiving a touch somewhere else.
Thank You...Thank You... I believe that was the problem.....

Touch screen not responding after hard reset..hardware problem?

I have searched for solutions for the past 2 days but cant find one, if i missed it or this post is redundant , i apologize in advance.
Now my tilt is driving me crazy. It started last week when The touch screen wasnt working, but i fixed it by doing a couple of soft resets. then all the sudden, everytime i slide my keyboard out, the touch screen would stop responding. this went on for a day, then yesterday, when i tired to use the keyboard, the screen went blank, like the light died or something. but when i put it back on portrait, the screen would light up again.
A few moments later, the touch was responding, tried to use the keypad then the screen went blank..tried soft resets about 5 times and uninstalled all recent added programs (skyfire) ..finally the screen was working but the touch still wasnt working.
So this morning, i had the bright idea to do a hard reset....dumbest idea ever cos now its stuck at the screen where i have to "tap the screen to set up your wm device" and guess what..the touch screen isnt responding
plz i really need help with this. all so , i have a broken tilt.., well lcd screen is cracked...can i try to dismantle both tilts and replace the screens?
Ok, i used Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment, but if i cant use the touch screen or the keyboard, the phone is pretty much useless for sending any information or making calls..is there a way to fix this?
I have had this same issue with my tilt. I could use the scroller on the left side of the unit to navigate but no touch screen. Both times that this has happened to me I removed the screen protector that I had on and restored a backup that I had on my storage card (I run a backup weekly). This has always fixed my issue. You could try another hard reset, not sure if that will help but do you get any lights on the keyboard when you slide it open? Is your tilt less than a year old because there is a manufacturer's warranty too.
Jim
when i slide the keyboard, i do get lights on the keyboard but not on the screen...it just goes dead..but when i slide it back in, the screen comes to life.
I cant do another hard reset cos i have to input the "1,2,3,4" code.
Also , the phone just got out of the 1yr warranty this month...awesome
I want to buy a replacement screen with a new digitizer but i need to be sure that is the problem.. ive searched for this keyboard problem but still have no answers
Now I'm having the same issue, touch not responding. I first noticed it about two days ago, when I slide the keyboard out, I could type just fine, but when I went to send the message the touch screen wouldnt work, so I'd close the keyboard and it would work. well yesterday it stopped working all together, so i used my d-pad and did a sprite restore and it started working again. But then On my way home i hit the lock button, and it stopped working after that, and I couldn't get it unlocked. I used the inner soft key to hit the first part of unlock, but then I couldnt ever figure which button to hit to get the on screen part of the unlock. So I had no choice but to do a hard reset, and just like highoct now I'm stuck on the stylus setup , and the touch still doesnt respond. does anybody esle have any suggestions ? Thanks in advance.
You can use the Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment.
If the touch screen is the only problem, you can do one of two things if you are no longer under warranty;
1. Fix it yourself. You will have to buy a new Lcd screen with new digitizer at ebay and use this site http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser/ to open up your tilt and replace it
2. Send it to a repair shop, I had two tilts and sent the one with the broken screen to www.missionrepair.com got it back in a within a week, $89.00 plus shipping
here is the link : http://www.missionrepair.com/Mission_Repair_AT_T_Cell_Phone_Repairs_and_Upgrades_s/321.htm
I still have the same tilt with the original problem..havent found a solution yet
Oh yeah, I did manage to do a hard reset again, but now the screen is just white. I can hear the sound of it booting up but it still has a white screen. I tired going to the Bootloader screen ( Camera and power at the same time)...still have the white screen. I believe its a hardware problem but i don't know what it is...any ideas?
Ok now I've done a hard flash, using the same HTC kaiser rom 6.1 and it fixes the problem for a little bit, until the first time I slide out the keyboard , then the screen stops working again, any suggestions ?
iPhone 3G Screen Repair...finally an affordable answer
If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
Chill0987 said:
If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
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Sounds like a plug for your website to me... Last I checked this wasn't an iPhone site.
Chill0987 said:
If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
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Does this look like an apple website? did i say i had an iphone? GET OUT OF HERE!!!
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Sounds like a plug for your website to me... Last I checked this wasn't an iPhone site.
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And thats his only post, its spam. jerk him outta here
Tilt Touch Screen
highoct said:
You can use the Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment.
If the touch screen is the only problem, you can do one of two things if you are no longer under warranty;
1. Fix it yourself. You will have to buy a new Lcd screen with new digitizer at ebay and use this site http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser/ to open up your tilt and replace it
2. Send it to a repair shop, I had two tilts and sent the one with the broken screen to www.missionrepair.com got it back in a within a week, $89.00 plus shipping
here is the link : http://www.missionrepair.com/Mission_Repair_AT_T_Cell_Phone_Repairs_and_Upgrades_s/321.htm
I still have the same tilt with the original problem..havent found a solution yet
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I know this thread is a bit old but was searching d forum for possible solutions cos yesterday i developed the same exact problem on my kaiser for no apparent reason!..flashing it hasnt helped and now im stuck on the wm setup screen..when u say u still have the same tilt with the original problem do you mean that the repair was unsuccessful? have you tried reparing it yourself? Thanks
I just started to have the same problem, it started out with the touch not responding (which a few soft resets fixed) and now the whole screen doesn't function unless i slid out the keyboard or if i jiggle it around and open it a couple of time i can usually find a spot that allows the screen to function with the keyboard closed. If i leave it in this position for about an hour the touch starts responding again, wtf. This is very inconvenient because as soon as you move the screen even just a little it will take me like half an hour to find the position which allows the phone to function.
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I just started to have the same problem, it started out with the touch not responding (which a few soft resets fixed) and now the whole screen doesn't function unless i slid out the keyboard or if i jiggle it around and open it a couple of time i can usually find a spot that allows the screen to function with the keyboard closed. If i leave it in this position for about an hour the touch starts responding again, wtf. This is very inconvenient because as soon as you move the screen even just a little it will take me like half an hour to find the position which allows the phone to function.
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same thing happened to me 3 days ago. touchscreen has just stopped responding.
it still worked when i slided my keyboard out, but only when it was out. then i realized it won't work at all (!) after soft reset. however, i could make it work again like that when i did the soft reset with the keyboard out. weird.
i tried searching, and decided to make a hard reset, flash a new rom, etc, etc., but no more touchscreen. at all. the device doesn't feel any touch in any case. nothing. i bypassed the beggining tap here with the storage card trick. (i've read it somewhere on the forum).
now i can only use my kaiser with the hw buttons, the keyboard, and that's it. no touch. really weird. please if anyone has any updates, solutions, anything, post. sniff sniff
mine doesn't have anything on the screen unless i slide it out, if i have it closed anymore, it just doesn't work at all.
try this:
ive just replaced my barely functioning lcd by myself, after living with it sometimes registered the stylus jumping around when i used the stylus. but before you change your lcd, here is a couple of tips for you guys:
1) try sliding out the keyboard. hold one finger in the middle of the keyboard and another on the back side of the phone, and squeeze hard, but careful. it might be that the flat cable between the screen part and the main part has loosened a bit from its socket, this could help it back in.
2) try sqeezing the hang up button hard. this might help the lcd-cable correctly back in its socket if it is loose.
im saying that this MIGHT help, if youre lucky. most likely you have to open the phone and squeeze the connectors back in yourself, or actually change the entire lcd. anyways, let me know what works for you!!
se1988 said:
ive just replaced my barely functioning lcd by myself, after living with it sometimes registered the stylus jumping around when i used the stylus. but before you change your lcd, here is a couple of tips for you guys:
1) try sliding out the keyboard. hold one finger in the middle of the keyboard and another on the back side of the phone, and squeeze hard, but careful. it might be that the flat cable between the screen part and the main part has loosened a bit from its socket, this could help it back in.
2) try sqeezing the hang up button hard. this might help the lcd-cable correctly back in its socket if it is loose.
im saying that this MIGHT help, if youre lucky. most likely you have to open the phone and squeeze the connectors back in yourself, or actually change the entire lcd. anyways, let me know what works for you!!
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well, i tried both tips, but they didn't work. i'd like to say a big thanks anyway!
then i grabbed the kaiser service manual and took my device apart into pieces. i reconnected pretty much all the cables and stuff, but still no touchy. any further ideas?
you should try replacing the screen. im happy to say that this screen from this seller on eBay worked for me: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250539984183
look here for dissasembly video: http://www.fonlogix.tv/tiltlow.wmv
(to save it to desktop right click link and "save target as")
thanks for your help, i've just ordered a new screen! phew, i hope it's gonna work

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