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SDHC-support (hack/update/other)

It's simple: I'm looking for an SDHC-support update/hack/driver/other for Blue Angel (Qtek 9090).
Can anybody help me?

Yes, it's rather easy: sell BA, buy sth that supports SDHC out of the box.
More complicated solution: wait until more devices will support SDHC, then sell BA and buy it.
So far we can forget about update of drivers to support SDHC and, what is more probable, device itself is not capable of suppoorting SDHC.

Thanks for you respons even though I don't like the sound of it.
Nothing at all I can do to get my Blue Angel på support SDHC? Nothing?

For sure something can be done
1. Write driver that supports SDHC, if chip inside is capable of reading SDHC cards. If not:
2. Unsolder reader and solder a new one in it's place, that supports SDHC for sure. Then write driver.
In both cases it will be easier and cheaper to just buy new deivce.
BTW: yo you know, that BA reads easily 4GB SD cards, that are not SDHC (a bit out of standard, but still possible)? Maybe it would be enough for you?

Ok. I'll sell the 8 GB SDHC-card and buy another (not HC) SD-card.
Thanks...

From all the technical datasheet I've gathered so far, it's all in the drivers.
Not even the device reader's firmware.
Right now I'm just waiting for a WM5 device that fully supports SDHC so we can lift the driver out of it, but that chance of that is slim as they'll all most liekly be WM6. Anyway, there is a possibility and I'm not giving up that easily.

So when is it possible for a sdhc-driver for Blue Angel to come out? Soon or should I sell my 8 GB SDHC and buy a 4 GB SD?

If you want to have more flash on your BA, you should buy no-SDHC card. Even it there will be any device on WM5 that reads SDHC, there is little chance it will work correctly in WM5 on BA.
And chances of having new device on WM5 are also lower and lower, as WM6 is the mainstream today.

8gb SD
My 8GB SD card (not SDHC) does not work in my BA.
Anyone know if a driver has been released?

Forget about driver. So far.
Where have you bought 8GB SD that is not HC? Any links?
What reader it is compatible with this (rather odd) thing?

8GB SD
fleabay are selling 8gb sd cards.
The readers are sdhc and sd compatible.
prices are around £45 incl reader + del.
what are the chances of a 8gb sd driver?

Does the Athena support SDHC?

AbuGWM5: I don't think there can be SD card that is both SD and SDHC compatible. It's like having a partition formatted both Fat32 and EXT2 at the same time.
hardingt0110: This is BlueAngel forum, isn't it?

The only non HC 8 gig SD cards are MMC. These can be made to work with driver support. It's all in the data transfer. Here's all you ever wanted to know about SD cards http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/88442-8-gb-card-hunting-tips.html

AbuGWM5 said:
fleabay are selling 8gb sd cards.
The readers are sdhc and sd compatible.
prices are around £45 incl reader + del.
what are the chances of a 8gb sd driver?
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I just looked on ebay (US and UK) and all the 8 gig SD cards I saw were SDHC. Have a link to one of these cards that are not SDHC?

8gb SD
Here's the link to the 8gb SD card:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/150X-8GB-OEM-...yZ122613QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Sorry for the mis-understanding: i meant 8gb SD card with a reader that is compatible with SDHC.
MMC just stands for multi-media card. So any memory card falls into that category.
PS buy at your own risk from the above seller he is very slow with delivery approx 4 weeks from USA and his cards may not be x150.
If you really want this 8gb sd card pm me if you'd like to purchase from me.

"8GB Secure Digital™ SD SDHC"
That card will not work in the BA, it's an SDHC card.

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MMC just stands for multi-media card. So any memory card falls into that category.
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MMC is registered name of MultiMediaCard standard, that is separate from SD (but usually compatible), MemoryStick, CompactFlash and other standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard

mmc sd
jakubd said:
MMC is registered name of MultiMediaCard standard, that is separate from SD (but usually compatible), MemoryStick, CompactFlash and other standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard
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Thanks jakubd

8GB Adata SDHC Card

I'm presently running Toflock WM6 and wanted to install the biggest possible SD card so I can put TT6 UK & Europe plus tons of other stuff without swapping cards.
I was advised in the Hima forum that there were SDHC patches which would enable SDHC. So based on this advice I just bought an Adata 8GB card.
I've tried several patches and nothing works, even the non-HC cards stop working and I have to re-install the Extrom prog to bring it back
So has anyone managed to get a class 6 SHDC card running yet ? If so with what rom etc.
Thanks

i am sorry to tell u this but SDHC is not possible on any Hima YET !!..i released 2 or maybe 3 Patches my self but none of them work...users cant even run 4GB and u bought 8GB..hope its refundable

Okay, I'll just have to keep an eye out for threads about SDHC updates.
In the meantime the Adata 8GB SDHC card will have to serve as a healthy sized flash drive to swap movies / mp3s with friends/family etc.
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??

ebod said:
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
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Forget it.
Decent 4 GB SD cards from well known manufacturers cost approx. 20 €/$
There is no need for this cheap crap.
Sascha

I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya

svenni said:
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
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r u sure?
how? and what product?
billionton, adata or what??

Yes, i'm sure!
It's a Transcend card

I've got an A-Data 4-Gb, pink stiker (it says: myflash, 150x turbo SD 4gb Adata) and it's working well (sure not at 150x, maybe 1x ). To be fair, I have tryed several ones diferent sizes and the bigger they are slower they work, not only on the PDA but in the PC as well.

Have you testet read/write access to the whole 4gb? As far as I know, you can use these cards, but you have no access beyond 2gb.

4GB CARD
I am working with Transcend 4GB Card and the speed is great , No problem at all.

I also use a Transcend 4GB SD and it works great. You can access the full 4Gb. I watch many tv series in my himalaya with tcpmp.

As I said full access to the 4Gb card. I used to travel with my 100Gb 2,5 USB HD, some times I thinks it's a shame there is no app to get acess to it through a kind o USB cable, wuold you imagine?

Memory card advice wanted

Hi,
I've just received my TyTn II and am interested in getting a memory card for it.
It takes Micro SD but what is the max size that it/WM6 will work with?
Also, what is Micro SDHC? and can I use it?
I've seen a 2GB MicroSD card for £7.55 del. but I probably want a bigger card.
I intend using it for tomtom - photos - some games and apps and of course data file storage.
TIA
Bryan

I picked up a SanDisk 8GB via Amazon for under $70 USD (minus shipping).
http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Micro...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1204123335&sr=8-1

I have a San Disk 8gig in mine and it's great.
Cheers, Paul

Thanks for the quick replies,
As you are using 8GB cards they must be MicroSDHC? AFAIK MicroSD cards that hold 4GB or greater are all MicroSDHC.
Any chance you can pop your card and see?

The 8Gb SanDisk that I ordered is MicroSDHC (a.k.a. 2.0).

The HC stands for High Capacity and it is indeed for cards above 4 GB.
The device for the memory card has to be HC capable and lucky for us, our Kaiser is
Every micro sd card also has a class (2, 4 or 6 I believe). The higher the number, the better transfer rates (and response time), but also the bigger the cost.
I currently have a 6 GB (class 4) micro SD card. I'm going to wait a while to buy a new one until cards with about 16 GB or 32 GB (or something like that) of memory come around.

I'm also running the sandisk 8gb SDHC card. Its speedy and
works flawlessly. I got it on amazon for about 80 USD
The only thing i could recommend after having a card this big
is a good card exporting program on your phone so not
limited by activesync

Thanks for the help.
The 2GB MicroSD card at £7.55 seems very good value but I'll wait for an 8GB MicroSDHC deal to come along.
Hopefully a faster variant too..
Is it possible to connect the phone to a PC and have it recognised as a large memory stick? I know some phones do and then you can just explore them like a disc drive.
I will setup activesync at home for normal installation etc. but wondered if I could access the SD card whilst in phone from the PC/USB a la memory stick whilst at work.

yes, you can access the SD card like it's a memory stick by exploring. However, the transfer rate isn't as good as a USB connection with a stick. The 8GB SanDisk comes with a USB reader so that the card can actually be used in the reader just like a stick. Fastest transfer rate I've ever gotten with my phone

I'm using an 8Gb SanDisk MicroSDHC.
Works great!

I have a 8gb and it is fine.. but if you wait until next month you can pick up a 12gb and really have some storage space.

'im using a sandisk 6GB MicroSDHC for about 50canadian$

WebAgents said:
Thanks for the help.
The 2GB MicroSD card at £7.55 seems very good value but I'll wait for an 8GB MicroSDHC deal to come along.
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Talk about a deal i just purchased two 8gb for $70 because they were used and only came with one adapter.

I got my 8 gb sandisk sdhc card on ebay - another place to look for a great deal. Just be careful about the track record of the seller. I love the 8 gb card, but will be looking for a 16 gb card when they come out.

i saw the 16GB ones out anyone tried if it will work with the kaiser???

I run a Kingston 8GB SDHC in mine without problems (brought it over from my SDHC enabled Orbit), which I bought for £25 about 8 months ago from mobymemory. Never had any problems with it at all.

would a 16GB SDHC memory card work for TYTNII?

Thinking of buying this 16GB SDHC memory card.
http://www.meritline.com/kingston-16gb-sdhc20-class4-sd-card.html
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.a...m=206812522&Type=PE&Category=Comp&dcaid=15890
But I dont wanna throw away money..so..
is the TYTNII a SD (ver. 1.0, 1.1) device? (if so then it will not recognize SDHC cards (>4GB))?
Does anyone know if this works with TYTNII (pratically, not theoretically)?
Has anyone used this or the 12GB one?
Thanks
some info on it:
Compatibility with SDHC 16GB: 16GB SDHC are designed for devices that are compatible with the SDHC 2.0 specifications. The SDHC logo on the packaging is to ensure compatibility. Please check with your device manufacturer for their current/future supported SDHC devices.
SDHC works differently then standard SD cards, this new format is not backwards compatible with legacy SD format host devices.
Kingston Technology's Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) memory cards are fully compliant with the new SD Association specification version 2.00. They are a new performance class of SD memory cards designed to meet the storage demands of high-quality digital still and video cameras and other high-resolution image recording devices.
-Remember that standard host devices must call out support for SDHC in order to be compatible with SDHC Cards (>4GB). Look for the logo!
-SD (ver. 1.0, 1.1) devices will not recognize SDHC cards (>4GB).
Features/benefits:
Compliant: with the SD Card Association specification version 2.00
Secure: built-in write-protect switch prevents accidental data loss
Compatible: with SDHC host devices; not compatible with standard SD-enabled devices/readers
File Format: FAT 32
Simple: as easy as plug-and-play
Specifications:
Capacities: 16GB
Dimensions: 0.94" x 1.25" x 0.08" (24mm x 32mm x 2.1mm)
Speed Class Rating:
--Class 2: 2MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
--Class 4: 4MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
--Class 6: 6MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
Operating Temperature: -13°F to 185°F(-25°C to 85°C)
Storage Temperature: -40°F to 185°F(-40°C to 85°C)
Voltage: 3.3V

The problem is how to fit it in your Kaiser ?
Cause this is not a micro SDHC card

While I don't know about the SD version on the Kaiser, I can tell you it reads 8GB SDHC cards. So if your 1.0, 1.1 versions only recognize under 4GB then the Kaiser is obviously using a later version.
Not sure on what you are going to pay for that size card... you can get an 8GB for under $50 which might be a smarter move until the others come down in price.

dang thats the price of my tilt
btw our phone support up to 32gb

ChefChaudart said:
The problem is how to fit it in your Kaiser ?
Cause this is not a micro SDHC card
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LOL good point, i didn't even follow the link to see that. I thought that SDHC was only micro cards...but then again I don't own any other devices that use these so i never researched them.
So, to the OP the size should work...but make sure you get a micro!

the card u posted in ur link will NOT work becase it doesnt suppot SDHC...u just simply cant put it inside ur phone...

It does Fit into the phone, what you see in the link is the exterior part of it. The smaller card is in the inside (fits underneath the one shown).

bluemamba said:
It does Fit into the phone, what you see in the link is the exterior part of it. The smaller card is in the inside (fits underneath the one shown).
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Actually, the links provided are SD cards, not Micro SD. The picture is not a Micro SD to SD converter, it's just an SD card. Micro SD to SD converters do not show the size of the card on them
So in conclusion, no, the product(s) in the links you provided will not fit in the kaiser, and therefore will not work. However here in the UK, we can expect to see 16GB Micro SDHC on the 31st May. See here

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Actually, the links provided are SD cards, not Micro SD. The picture is not a Micro SD to SD converter, it's just an SD card. Micro SD to SD converters do not show the size of the card on them
So in conclusion, no, the product(s) in the links you provided will not fit in the kaiser, and therefore will not work. However here in the UK, we can expect to see 16GB Micro SDHC on the 31st May. See here
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Sorry My bad then..
Anyway now that thats sorrted out, my question still stands

Memory limit
One of HTC tech support guys basically told me that if the microSDHC card says SDHC that the Kaiser (or the Tilt he was referring to seeing as I was talking to him about my phone) will support it...and I believe he mentioned up to at least 128gb memory capacity or something. One other poster in this thread mentioned 32gb...
Now for reality, at the time of my purchase of the Tilt Nov 2008, Sandisk was the first to make 8gb microSDHC (okay others announced it too), and the time from their announcement of 8gb being put on their website at $139.99 in Nov 2007 or so.....to the availability on amazon in roughly January or Feb 2008 at 139.99....to the current amazon price of roughly in the $50 range by March/April 2008.....to the realization that very few other memory manufacturers have released 8gb microSDHC cards.......makes one think that by the time any amazing company makes anything substantially bigger than 8gb, AND releases it to market at a price I'm willing to pay for.......By that time...I and probably many of us, will have bought a newer phone with proper drivers...that the limit of memory size of microSDHC for the kaiser will be a memory.
In others words, 8gb microSDHC is the largest you will find today (most likely), and the phone will handle much more than that in its product lifetime. Buy with confidence that your kaiser in April 2008 can handle any microSDHC product available in April 2008.
Hope this helped.

thanks nicely put

come on dude you put up a link for an sdhc memory card you need a MICRO SDHC MEMORY CARD. Also I thought all th Tytn II could use the high capicity cards...are you sure you don't have a TYtn-one.

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come on dude you put up a link for an sdhc memory card you need a MICRO SDHC MEMORY CARD. Also I thought all th Tytn II could use the high capicity cards...are you sure you don't have a TYtn-one.
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This is true, by this thread is 6 months old also . Have a look at the date!

I'm buying the 8 GB MicroSDHC tomorrow. My 2 GB is already completely full!!

The SanDisk 16GB microSDHC works just fine in the Tytn II -- I've been using one for about a week now. I don't notice any speed difference between it and my old class 4 8GB card.

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The SanDisk 16GB microSDHC works just fine in the Tytn II -- I've been using one for about a week now. I don't notice any speed difference between it and my old class 4 8GB card.
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That sounds awesome!!! I haven't seen the 16gb ones yet. How much do they go for?

I live near a Microcenter
so the 8G Microcenter version went on sale for 34 Bucks..thats right! Now the SANDISK 8G is a little bit more expensive but they are the same class SDs. I have the Microcenter version running right now in my Tilt with only 2Gs left...I'll probably try and get the SANDISK 16G but I might even wait to see if Microcenter comes out with their own 16G which generally is cheaper than Sandisks.

MACkjam said:
That sounds awesome!!! I haven't seen the 16gb ones yet. How much do they go for?
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I've seen them in the range of US $75-100. I paid $98 for mine -- they were the only US supplier I could find that had them in stock.

[Q] Memory Card compatible for HD7?

hi guys, my hd7 currently only have 8gb inside. planning to upgrade to 16 or 32gb. but i notice that our hd7 only compatible card. i've done my research on hd7 forum, this is what i came up with. need some one to verify it.
my question is:
1. basically what class do i need to look for? it is either class 4 or 2?
2. notice that stock memory card named "Sandisk MicroSDHC". Does it need to be HC? at my local higher capacity card seem to be running out. only 4gb are available.
3. and can i use another brand. i know some already used other brand. but do kingston work?
if u have upgraded ur hd7 memory. do also let me know the brand, capacity and class speed.
i think it might be good for our forum to compile all compatible microsd into a thread.

Forged said:
hi guys, my hd7 currently only have 8gb inside. planning to upgrade to 16 or 32gb. but i notice that our hd7 only compatible card. i've done my research on hd7 forum, this is what i came up with. need some one to verify it.
my question is:
1. basically what class do i need to look for? it is either class 4 or 2?
2. notice that stock memory card named "Sandisk MicroSDHC". Does it need to be HC? at my local higher capacity card seem to be running out. only 4gb are available.
3. and can i use another brand. i know some already used other brand. but do kingston work?
if u have upgraded ur hd7 memory. do also let me know the brand, capacity and class speed.
i think it might be good for our forum to compile all compatible microsd into a thread.
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Almost all newly manufactured SDHC cards will now work with the HD7.
I would recommend a higher quality brand like , SanDisk, PNY or Kingston... These are less likely to have poor Read/Write speeds and you shouldn't have any problems with it being a faulty SD card in the device.
Use a class 4, 6 or 10 SD card. The Read/Write speeds on the higher class cards are generally faster. Which equals faster loading, transition and less lag on the device.
The HC stands for "High Capacity" and yes I would stay with the SDHC card and they make 8, 16 and 32gb cards that will work with the HD7.
If your devices bootloader version is 5.12 then it will support the 64gb class 10 micro SDXC cards.
I'm using a 32gb class 4 micro SDHC card in my HD7 with a bootloader version of 3.xxx and it has worked perfectly in 2 different HD7's now.

thanks for the confirmation! sandisk usually run out pretty fast. but there alot of kingston at my local store. i know a place sell class 6 16gb and class 10 32gb microsdhc. so i'll give em a try. as for my bootloader version, yes it at 5.12. but planning to downgrade it using the y-cable method after the memory upgrade. so l'll stick with microsdhc.

how long does the initial start up take? after the restore process completed.. cus i had install mine, sandisk 16gb class 4, and currently its still on the htc logo waiting to start up. on the bootloader, the mmc info has been updated. or the card is bad?
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Seem the card is not compatible to my hd7. if i remove the card, it will switch on after restore process complete.

Forged said:
how long does the initial start up take? after the restore process completed.. cus i had install mine, sandisk 16gb class 4, and currently its still on the htc logo waiting to start up. on the bootloader, the mmc info has been updated. or the card is bad?
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Seem the card is not compatible to my hd7. if i remove the card, it will switch on after restore process complete.
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After you insert the new SD card, make sure you perform a hard reset to integrate the SD card into the system first.

ok i got my hd7 up n running for weeks now. I used 16gb class 4 sandisk.
a buddy of mine also using hd7 8gb. So he ask me to do the same thing to his hd7. Weirdly his phone wont boot up with the same memory card i bought. Does mango update make a difference?