How to make default ringtone stick? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Pardon me if this sound stupid. I am having problem getting a ringtone for incoming call to "stick" in the phone setting. I have this MP3 ringtone that I like and would like to set it to ring whever the incoming calls are from stranger, private caller or people not on my contacts and contact I've not assigned unique ringtone to.
I would go into phone>sound>ring tone to set it to that MP3. But after a little while, it would revert back to "Ring-WindowsMobile" tone which is not loud enough for me.
Anyone knows how to make my selection of ring tone stick once I set it?

Thats strange, my ringtone sticks.
Maybe you havent placed the ringtone on the device?(Has to be on device not storage card)

I am using a ring tone stored in the device under window\ring.

joeleung888 said:
Pardon me if this sound stupid. I am having problem getting a ringtone for incoming call to "stick" in the phone setting. I have this MP3 ringtone that I like and would like to set it to ring whever the incoming calls are from stranger, private caller or people not on my contacts and contact I've not assigned unique ringtone to.
I would go into phone>sound>ring tone to set it to that MP3. But after a little while, it would revert back to "Ring-WindowsMobile" tone which is not loud enough for me.
Anyone knows how to make my selection of ring tone stick once I set it?
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I had the same problem. I installed the WAV file in the ringtone folder and it worked, until I installed GSPlayer. It made file associations, including WAV files and so it wouldn't play as the ringtone. So if you've installed some sort of media player recently, check the file associations. If they play WAV files, then uncheck it and your ringtone should work.

I have the same problem.
I'm using the 8125 "OldRing .wav" in my \My Documents\My Ringtones folder. The ringtone sticks for a few days, through soft resets and such, and then suddenly one day it just changes back to the crappy default Ring-WindowsMobile.
I haven't figured when or why it switches back, but I don't think it has anything to do with media players. I've got lots of media players installed (MortPlayer, Pocket Player, PocketMusic, and TCPMP). I use them all the time and they don't appear to affect my ringtone.
If it matters to anyone, I'm using Helmi's Dynamic Big Storage. Can't remember if this happened on my stock AT&T ROM.

Forced ringtone
This happened to me again. I think it happens after my phone locks up and has to be reset via button next to mic.
Anyway, I was fed up with this, so I figured if something keeps reverting our ringtone to default, why not change the default to the ringtone we want? I did a search in the registry for Ring-WindowsMobile and found/changed it at these keys:HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\Phone\Wave = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\DefaultSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview\DefaultSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0\SavedSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0\Sound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring2\Sound = ringtone​I also added my ringtone the beginning of this multistring (in case the first is selected as default somewhere):HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ringtones​Hopefully this should take care of our problem!

BennTech said:
This happened to me again. I think it happens after my phone locks up and has to be reset via button next to mic.
Anyway, I was fed up with this, so I figured if something keeps reverting our ringtone to default, why not change the default to the ringtone we want? I did a search in the registry for Ring-WindowsMobile and found/changed it at these keys:HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\Phone\Wave = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\DefaultSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview\DefaultSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0\SavedSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0\Sound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring2\Sound = ringtone​I also added my ringtone the beginning of this multistring (in case the first is selected as default somewhere):HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ringtones​Hopefully this should take care of our problem!
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Please advise if the above works and it rings your preferred ring tone. Thanks.

Does it work??
Hi BennTech,
Please advise whether your registry changes got rid of the WM ring tone and replace it with your preferred ringtone permanently.
Thanks!

So far so good...
I haven't posted back that they work because my ringtone switching happens rarely--maybe once or twice a week, and thus I can't verify that this fix works yet. However, I'll only be able to tell if the fix doesn't work, because if it does work, then when the phone switches back to "default" for no apparent reason, it should stay as my ringtone because the default IS my ringtone. Quid pro quo.
Regardless, there's no reason for you not to change them, too. However, if you're worried about what you're changing, here's a little more information:HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\Phone: default ringtone settings for known callers (I think)
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring: default ringtone settings
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview: not sure where this one is used, but virtually every hack of the previous key changes this one as well
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0: your current ringtone settings
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring2: no idea, but don't think it's used
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ringtones: multistring that lists only ringtones. Only these ringtones and the sound files from \My Documents\My Ringtones show up in the Phone control panel, as opposed to the Sound control panel that lists all sounds. If you put your ringtone in \Windows, you'll need to mod this to have it show up in Phone control panel.​

Thanks for your feedback. Currently I am trying out mring and set the unknown/no caller ID/no specific ring tone assigned callers to play my favorite MP3 ring tone.
So I'll wait for the mring trial period expires, before I modify the registry based on your advice.

i could not set unique ring to each contact,bec my contacts were on my sims, u need to have the contacts in the phone memory to use that feature. once copied my contact to the phone it worked like a charm

phaej said:
i could not set unique ring to each contact,bec my contacts were on my sims, u need to have the contacts in the phone memory to use that feature. once copied my contact to the phone it worked like a charm
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That's not the problem we have. I don't use sim contacts at all, and I'm not trying to assign unique rings. We're setting the regular ringtone and it works for a period of time, but then it mysteriously reverts back to WM6's default Ring-WindowsMobile.
BTW, so far so good on my hack. Been a week and my ringtone hasn't reverted back to the lame default.

joeleung888 said:
Pardon me if this sound stupid. I am having problem getting a ringtone for incoming call to "stick" in the phone setting. I have this MP3 ringtone that I like and would like to set it to ring whever the incoming calls are from stranger, private caller or people not on my contacts and contact I've not assigned unique ringtone to.
I would go into phone>sound>ring tone to set it to that MP3. But after a little while, it would revert back to "Ring-WindowsMobile" tone which is not loud enough for me.
Anyone knows how to make my selection of ring tone stick once I set it?
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me too
I have the same problem on my T-mobile Dash WM5. It happened after I installed PocketMusic. I uninstalled it , and no change yet. I restarted the phone, nothing.. :S I believe I have lost the mp3 plugin support, cuz the explorer doesn't recognize the mp3 format now. Can anyone help us please ?

mohamedmohsen2000 said:
I believe I have lost the mp3 plugin support, cuz the explorer doesn't recognize the mp3 format now.
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I think you're trying to say that since you uninstalled PocketMusic, your .MP3 files are no longer associated to a media player and thus give you an error like "There is no application associated with..." when you launch them in Explorer. Correct? That's an extension-mapping problem, which you can correct with a utlity like Resco Explorer. This thread is about ringtones, specifically how our phone's ringtone mysteriously reverts back to the WM6 default.

Any idea why?
I have Xpress Mail set up to push my work emails to my Tilt. It seems that everytime a new email comes in via Xpress Mail, the ring tone will automatically revert to WM6 default ring tone (even though I've set it to use my favorite MP3 tone).
Other emails come in (not via Xpress Mail) do not cause the ring tone to change though.
What gives?????

joeleung888 said:
It seems that everytime a new email comes in via Xpress Mail, the ring tone will automatically revert to WM6 default ring tone (even though I've set it to use my favorite MP3 tone).
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Wow. That's weird. Personally, I don't use XpressMail because I've got my own Exchange server at home. My Exchange push doesn't appear to corrupt my ringtone.
However, at least this gives you a reproducible test to see if the hack works. Try changing the registry entries one at a time (or all three at once to different ringtones), send yourself an e-mail, and let us know if the hack fixes the problem and which registry entry it reverts to (should be HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\DefaultSound).

I've made one registry change as per your advice as below
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\MyMP3 tone
Before email came in, called my Tilt (with blocked caller ID) it rang my MP3 tone perfectly. But then I sent myself an email (via Xpress Mail) and after the email came in, it reverted back to WM6 default ringtone. Worst was, when I called my Tilt (with blocked caller ID) it would display a call came in (private) but did not ring a sound.
Now I just changed the registry to the dafault WM6 tone again, at least I won't miss any call.
Are there anything I should do?

Sorry for late reply.
Well, shoot. I don't know what's going on there. I'm running out of ideas here, but there's still a few things to try/eliminate since you can reproduce the problem at will.
Check the ring volume. Do your test and check the ring volume just to be sure that's not the problem. I only bring this stupidly simple check because a couple of times my ring volume has mysteriously set itself to off despite the fact the I toggle between full and vibrate only.
Check if the issue is MP3 only. Change the registry values to a WMA sound file instead of MP3, then run your test to see if the problem is specific to MP3 or if it extends to Windows' default extension.
Test all registry entries. Change the values of all the registry entries I listed, preferably each to a different WMA ringtone, and test again. This should tell you which registry entry it's using when it corrupts the ringtone.
Search the entire registry for the default ringtone and replace it. As a last resort, do a simple find in your registry for "Ring-WindowsMobile" and replace all occurrences with another WMA file. There shouldn't be any others, but if there is, change them and test again (and let me know where they are).
I know this is a lot of tedious testing, but since the ringtone is kinda vital for phone functionality I guess its worth it.
Good news for me...my ringtone appears to finally be sticking. Haven't had it revert back since I made the registry changes two weeks ago. Woohoo!

BennTech said:
Sorry for late reply.
Well, shoot. I don't know what's going on there. I'm running out of ideas here, but there's still a few things to try/eliminate since you can reproduce the problem at will.
Check the ring volume. Do your test and check the ring volume just to be sure that's not the problem. I only bring this stupidly simple check because a couple of times my ring volume has mysteriously set itself to off despite the fact the I toggle between full and vibrate only.
Check if the issue is MP3 only. Change the registry values to a WMA sound file instead of MP3, then run your test to see if the problem is specific to MP3 or if it extends to Windows' default extension.
Test all registry entries. Change the values of all the registry entries I listed, preferably each to a different WMA ringtone, and test again. This should tell you which registry entry it's using when it corrupts the ringtone.
Search the entire registry for the default ringtone and replace it. As a last resort, do a simple find in your registry for "Ring-WindowsMobile" and replace all occurrences with another WMA file. There shouldn't be any others, but if there is, change them and test again (and let me know where they are).
I know this is a lot of tedious testing, but since the ringtone is kinda vital for phone functionality I guess its worth it.
Good news for me...my ringtone appears to finally be sticking. Haven't had it revert back since I made the registry changes two weeks ago. Woohoo!
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1/ Ringtone is on
2/ Will give it a try with ringtone other than MP3
3/ I did change all registry settings but to no avail
Another thing I noticed is that, when Xpress Mail arrives, besides reverting the ringtone to WM6 tone, it also changes the ring type. I set it to Vibrate and ring, but it would revert to vibrate then ring. Strange.

joeleung888 said:
I've made one registry change as per your advice as below
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\MyMP3 tone
Before email came in, called my Tilt (with blocked caller ID) it rang my MP3 tone perfectly. But then I sent myself an email (via Xpress Mail) and after the email came in, it reverted back to WM6 default ringtone. Worst was, when I called my Tilt (with blocked caller ID) it would display a call came in (private) but did not ring a sound.
Now I just changed the registry to the dafault WM6 tone again, at least I won't miss any call.
Are there anything I should do?
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Forgive me for replying here, as I own a TYTN, not a KAISER, but I too was having this issue using the stock AT&T WM6 Rom, and I also have Xpress Mail installed. I just used the regedit approach to find all of the places where the stock ringtone existed and replaced all of them with the name of the ringtone I want to use.
FWIW, I never associated the problem with Xpress Mail, as I found my phone reverted whenever it was boot ... either with a power cycle or a soft reset. I don't often SR, but as I change my batteries daily, it meant I had to remember to reset my ringtone every day or it was back to the default.
Anyway, after doing the regedit, I found my desired ringtone is now sticking between power-cycles and soft resets.
As an experiment, I finally sent myself an Xpress Mail, and I am happy to report that it did not change the ringtone back to the default.
But as a question to joeleung888 ... do you also have phoneAlarm installed? I mention this because:
1) I cannot see the association between this problem and Xpress Mail
2) There were some difficulties in development of phoneAlarm and the Tilt
3) phoneAlarm would be accessing both Xpress Mail AND your ringtone settings
Based on these three things, maybe the problem lies with the combo of phoneAlarm and Xpress Mail. Maybe try uninstalling each of them, one-at-a-time, and testing. It MIGHT isolate the problem. If the problem is with phoneAlarm, you should alert Bruce (aka Penguin) on the pA forums. He is always very helpful.
Anyway ... just an idea. Good luck,
-pvs

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Text message notification

This must seem like a really stupid question(it even does to me) but I've had my tilt for 3 weeks and I can't seem to find where to turn on a notification for text messages. All I get when a text comes in is the screen lights up, no sound. And the ringer is set to loud. Will someone tell me how to activate this?
Beardington said:
This must seem like a really stupid question(it even does to me) but I've had my tilt for 3 weeks and I can't seem to find where to turn on a notification for text messages. All I get when a text comes in is the screen lights up, no sound. And the ringer is set to loud. Will someone tell me how to activate this?
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Mate i don't have my kaiser now but i am using another wm6 phone.
Go settings-sounds and notifications-notifications tab and try to find on events drop down menu about new text message notifications. Hope this was helpful.
Is there any way to change the sound that plays? I don't like any of the included WM sounds and was hoping to use a custom ringtone like I did on my old Sanyo flip, but I've moved them to the ringtones folder and they only show up for voice calls, not for messages.
detox702 said:
Is there any way to change the sound that plays? I don't like any of the included WM sounds and was hoping to use a custom ringtone like I did on my old Sanyo flip, but I've moved them to the ringtones folder and they only show up for voice calls, not for messages.
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Put the text tones you want in the windows directory and voila!

How to change default Warning sounds?

For some reason my TyTN II no longer plays a warning sound. For example, a confirmation pop-up appears when you want to delete a particular file. At the same time there's a sound associated with this pop-up. Sadly, though, my phone is not playing that sound anymore. For all other things, i.e., ringer, reminders, messages received, calls received, etc., the sounds are working perfectly.
I'm only missing what I call "Warning" sounds, or the sound that plays when you're trying to do something and the phone is "asking" you if you really want to do it or not.
Using a desktop PC as an analogy, this "Warning" sound would play when there's an "Asterisk," a "Default Beep," an "Exclamation," or a "Question."
Can I reestablish this sound? Where is this value in the Registry?
Thank you,
Peter
Default Event Sounds ...
Yes, I know, I'm responding to my own question, but no one else replied, so I thought I would ask again.
Does anyone know how to bring back event sounds, or how to change them to a different sound, or even how to defeat them selectively? Unfortunately, my event sounds have mysteriously disappeared. When I say event sounds, I'm referring to the default sound the phone makes when you, for example, try to delete a file. On a desktop PC, this would be in the control panel, sounds and notifications section, and the events to which I refer are called "asterisk," "critical stop," "exclamation," "program error," and "question," etc. Similarly, I used to have a default sound when any of these types of events would occur, but now that sound is silent.
Any ideas?
Thank you,
Peter

Setting Unique ringers for Known, Unknow, and calls while Roaming

One feature i am missing from my move from treo's to the HTC Diamond is the ability to select different ringers styles/sounds for Known, Unknow and Roaming callers.
i know its in the registry and i have made some good advancements but im stuck. here is where i stand
Note: i dont mention the roaming caller ring profile here but its the same concept as the "know caller" profile i just didnt want to retype the whole blurb.
Ive added the key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\Known Caller]
@="Phone: Known Caller"
"Options"=dword:80000000
"Wave"="\Windows\Ring-WindowsMobile.wma"
"DisplayOrder"=dword:00000002
"Duration"=dword:00000001
This shows in the Sounds and Notifications settings as Known Caller
Ive changed
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\Phone]
"DisplayOrder"=dword:00000002 <------ default was "1"
@="Phone: Unknown Caller" <----- Default was "Incomming Call"
"Options"=dword:80000000
"Wave"="\\Windows\\Ring-Innovation.wma"
"Duration"=dword:00000001
these both show in the Sounds and Notifications.
then i navigated too:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\KnownCallerR ing0]
this key allows you to set a ringer for Known Callers that do not have a custom ringer set already in yoru contacts. it was empty so p populated it like this
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\KnownCallerR ing0]
"Sound"="\Windows\Ring-WindowsMobile.wma"
"Category"="Ring"
"Script"="apw3r"
The "Unknown Caller" ringer ringer settings are located here:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\RingTone0]
"Sound"="\Windows\Ring-Birds2.wma"
"Category"="Ring"
"Script"="apw3r"
So the problem is. under "Sounds and Notifications" if i change the ringer in one they both change ( both known and unknown callers are still pointing to RingTone0)
now i know that KnownCallersRing0 sets the ring for people in your contacts because i have tested it and it does work. the issue is that i cannot get the Notification "Key" to map back to
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\KnownCallerR ing0] rather then
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0].
(in simple terms, Known caller and unknown caller map back to the same ringer style and sounds and they shouldn't be. i cannot get the "know Caller" setting to go to KnownCallerRinger0 Via "sounds and Notifications" even though this working you have to change your ringer via reg edit and i want to be able to do it in "sounds and Notifications" GUI)
Any one have some insight?
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\KnownCallerR ing0]
"Sound"="\Windows\Ring-WindowsMobile.wma"
"Category"="Ring"
"Script"="apw3r"
Above sets ringer for Known callers in your contact list that DO NOT already have a custom ringer
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RoamingRing0]
"Sound"="\Windows\Ring-Birds2.wma"
"Category"="Ring"
"Script"="apw3r"
Above sets ringer for calls receiver while roaming
Note: set up both keys the way you see it. change "Sound" to a different ringer file to change ring tone.
i wish i could get this to work with the "sounds and notifications" GUI
you may need to create the whole key or just some of the entries.
KnownCallerRing0 has a space in it when posting. it should not in the registry. i dont know why the forum does this.
awesome post, perhaps someone can make an application so we can set the ringtones for each via a GUI ?
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awesome post, perhaps someone can make an application so we can set the ringtones for each via a GUI ?
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we dont need a new app if we can figure out how the "phone" notification maps to ringtone0 then we can do the same for "known callers" and "roaming caller" the treo didnt need a third party app to do this
it must be something simple im missing
I spent all last night searching every registry entry to see how the Phone notification calls up the RingTone0 sound entry with no luck. some one smarter then me needs to hop in and hely a brother out
Juggalo_X said:
we dont need a new app if we can figure out how the "phone" notification maps to ringtone0 then we can do the same for "known callers" and "roaming caller" the treo didnt need a third party app to do this
it must be something simple im missing
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nono, i just meant a GUI to easily change ringtone for each i don't want to have to go into the registry and manually change the keys every single time i change ringtone
I would also love to be able to do this. Registry or not.
Subscribed to this thread, I would love to have this ability as well.
why you don't install 3rd party software, like inesoft phone? It maintains ring profiles for known, unknown etc

AT&T 8925 annusual porblem NO RING VOICE calling, but it will ring on text,alarm,dial

AT&T 8925 annusual porblem NO RING VOICE calling, but it will ring on text,alarm,dial
Hello every one it is been awhile since I been to this site and ask for help, but unfortunately I having trouble with my AT&T 8925 (tilt) that every time someone calling me the speaker (buzzer or ringer) doesn't work, I have to set it up to vibrate so I can notice that someone calling me. but the if someone texting me or I set my alarm clock the sound will work ok it will ring on text messaging, dialing have sound too(every time you press the numbers) on the alarm too(when you set it up) only when someone calling me (voice call) that's the time the ringer doesn't work at all only vibrate works
check that your using a valid ringtone in the sound notification settings
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check that your using a valid ringtone in the sound notification settings
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Yes, I know is valid because I haven't download any ringtones at all only a regular tones that came in the 8925 that I use always only. I have no any fancy ringtones save in my phone
maybe you use the wrong radio
I had the same problem after changing my media file associations (mp3, wav, etc...) to media player other than mobile WMP. Everthing worked fine when switched back to WMP & soft reset. I hope this helps.

[Q] Wrong ringtone rings sometimes?

Sometimes it happens that for person for which I dedicated separate ringtone, default phone ringtone rings.
Does it happen to anybody here? I am using Gingerbread 2.3.3. default with CF-Root.
Thanks.
Do you have your contacts synced with google? If yes, make sure that the contact you have a custom ringtone also have a duplicate on the phone contacts joined with the google one. Else, each time your contacts are getting synced with google, the custom ringtone will get lost (actually it will still show on the contact but will not play).
It happens even if I don't sync with Google. It happens randomly. The person calls me, default ringtone is ringing. After 10 seconds same person calls me, dedicated ringtone is ringing. I don't know what is happening...
Also, the same happens with contact which is only in my phone (not synced with google).
Stile35 said:
Sometimes it happens that for person for which I dedicated separate ringtone, default phone ringtone rings.
Does it happen to anybody here? I am using Gingerbread 2.3.3. default with CF-Root.
Thanks.
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Not sure about this but I think it my be network related. It happens to me occasionally, and when it does I usually notice a drop in call quality.
It also used to happen on my stock Xperia X10 Mini, so I doubt it's anything on the phone's side.
I had this back on eclair, but then noticed it was happening on calls taken shortly after having mounted the SD in USB... so now I put my ring tone mp3 in the data folder were the android ring tones are, and never had the problem again ;-)
My ringtone is stored on phone (not on SD) but in separate folder. Maybe I should put it into system folder but I think it doesn't matter since custom ringtone and default ringtone are on the same folder. Default ringtone is also custom MP3 which is used for all other calls except only two contacts.
So, to be clear, instead of custom caller ringtone, it is ringing "default" custom ringtone (not default Samsung ringtone). Hmmm...
this is the Android Issues link: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3311
no solution yet the best response (not verified) to me seems to be
"Haven't reverse-engineered the source code, but it happens when the phone is busy. I suspect that when the CPU is busy, the correct ringtone is not drawn from the SQLite on time. In that case, some default is played after some timeout, be it the default or just the previous ringtone."

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