watching TV - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Is it possible to watch TV on your Kaiser? If so, what do I need to d/l?

Yes, it is possible. You can stream from your home sling mobitv qt TV many many many many options to choose from.

which program would be the best to use/most reliable?

orb is good but i haven't streamed live tv. otherwise i use my slingbox which can be a more costly solution as you have to buy hardware

I have had great luck with Slinbox. It lets you watch YOUR cable or satellite tv, meaning you get your local channels, local sports, etc. Yes, there is a the cost of the box itself but that's a one time expense not an ongoing monthly charge like most of the streaming services.
Easy to set up and use and the quality is surprisingly good.

I use Slingbox. If you are interested...do an eBay search on Slingbox SB100. That's the original version that has all of the connections on it (no HD) and you can get it relatively cheap. I got mine for about $80 after shipping. Then you have to spend $30 on the mobile client software.

ORB is the way to go. You can stream TV, any movies off your home computer, any mp3s or music and also use it as a file browser to retrieve any files you may need off your home computer. I stream TV at 300k just fine on 3g. Of course you need a home computer with high speed internet and a tv card in it, but it has many more advantages over slingbox as to what you can do with it.

i think there is amonthly charge to use the orb, i may opt for the sling box, it cost about usd 80 and comes with all the software to watch tv etc from ppc and pc.
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Nope, there is no charge on the orb service. Just install and go....

Orb's good, I just don't like keeping a PC running all day for my occasional streaming need. I'm a big Slingbox user and can say that they are simple and solid, can control a DVR Plus it can access your cable directly so you can set up some icons for your favorite channels on the phone and stream live TV anytime as well. I even peek out my front door from a cam modulated onto one of my TV channels.
Sling is a clean easy solution.

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Orb's good, I just don't like keeping a PC running all day for my occasional streaming need. I'm a big Slingbox user and can say that they are simple and solid, can control a DVR Plus it can access your cable directly so you can set up some icons for your favorite channels on the phone and stream live TV anytime as well. I even peek out my front door from a cam modulated onto one of my TV channels.
Sling is a clean easy solution.
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True, but you can set the PC to wake on lan, then dont need to leave it on, however the PC I have running ORB is my Exchange 12 Server, so needs to sta on all the time anyhow....

I use ORB all the time. I have been using it well over a year now. I always leave my PC on, so that isn't an issue. I'm from the old school, where frequent bootups were bad on the RAM/CPU, etc. I know it's not the case anymore, but it's just a habit.

orb.com, the best. I have media center pc to use on the online rental movies. I also use the media center pc to copy tv shows to my device so I can watch it on the go. I also use orb to record shows when I forget to set to record. It's a multi purpose device. Unlike LocationFree, which I have as well, or Slingbox, you can't record. So you have to be on that time to see the show.
Orb can be used on top of your existing or old computer. Just slap in a PCI or USB Capturing Video card and voila, you're done. I even use ORB as a Webcam surveilance camera to record if there is any movement. The computer is always on, but then again, the computer is a Pentium-M Desktop with super quiet fan and it's tiny as a mac.

yzf750 said:
ORB is the way to go. You can stream TV, any movies off your home computer, any mp3s or music and also use it as a file browser to retrieve any files you may need off your home computer. I stream TV at 300k just fine on 3g. Of course you need a home computer with high speed internet and a tv card in it, but it has many more advantages over slingbox as to what you can do with it.
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Orb is awesome, I use it almost daily, and best of all it's free. I would like to point out, not all TV cards are compatible with ORB, you might want to reference which cards are supported first.

im getting loads of buffering issues when im trying to play videos / tv in orb, anyone got any ideas? im using HSDPA on the Kaiser and got 384k upload on the home pc.

jaso2005 said:
im getting loads of buffering issues when im trying to play videos / tv in orb, anyone got any ideas? im using HSDPA on the Kaiser and got 384k upload on the home pc.
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Try using a "fixed" speed on the orb on your kaiser instead of letting it run the speed test. Alot of times it does the speed test and finds for example 800kbps and sets orb at that on the ppc. Manually set it to say 300kbps and see if that solves the problem. Alot is dependent on your cell providers bandwidth, they may have good bursts at times but then drop in speed between them.

ko0ky said:
Orb is awesome, I use it almost daily, and best of all it's free. I would like to point out, not all TV cards are compatible with ORB, you might want to reference which cards are supported first.
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TV Tuners for Windows XP Users
A supported TV Tuner is required for streaming live TV in Orb
Supported Single Analog Tuners (aka, MPEG-2 tuners)
All tuners with a built-in hardware MPEG-2 encoder (aka. MPEG-2 tuners) including, but not limited to:
Hauppauge: WinTV PVR-150 - Buy now and save $20!
Hauppauge: WinTV PVR-USB2 - Buy now and save $20!
Hauppauge: WinTV PVR-250, and 350
ADS Instant TV Deluxe PTV-305 PCI - Buy now (enter promotional code Orb305)
ADS Instant TV Deluxe USB (External)
Diamond XtremeTV PVR660 USB 2.0 - Buy now
Diamond XtremeTV PVR560 PCI - Buy now
AVerMedia UltraTV Media Center PCI 500 and PCI 550
Emuzed Angel Dual TV Tuner
*Important: ADS Tuners are for Windows XP only and are not compatible with Media Center Edition PCs.
Supported Over-The-Air (OTA) Digital Tuners - ATSC Tuners
All Microsoft BDA-compatible ATSC tuners, including, but not limited to:
ATI HDTV Wonder (Hybrid ATSC/analog PCI card)
VBOX: DTA-150 and DTA-151 (PCI cards)
VBOX: USB-A 3560 (USB-2 external); ATSC 2060
ATSC tuners compatible with Media Center
NOTE on DVB tuners:
Most DVB-T (terrestrial) digital tuners should work in Orb. However, this functionality is offered as a "beta" and is therefore not fully supported at this time.
DVB-S (satellite) digital tuners do not work in Orb at this time.
Supported Dual Tuners
Hauppauge WinTV 500MCE PCI (for Media Centers only)
Emuzed Angel Dual TV Tuner PCI
Adaptec VideOh! Media Center USB 2.0 (AVC-3610)
Novac NV-TV300D2 Dual-TV2
NVIDIA Dual-TV
Note on software-based, non-MPEG2 TV tuners
At this time, most non-MPEG2 tuners (such as: ATI All-In-Wonder family of tuners; Hauppauge soft-PVR USB tuners; etc.) will work in Orb. However the implementation of this functionality is still in beta and therefore not supported. If you cannot make your non-MPEG2 tuner work in Orb, search Orb forum posts at forums.orb.com where issues related to this type of tuners are discussed, and basic setup tips are offered.
Set-Top Boxes
If your TV setup includes a Set-Top Box (STB), to change TV channels in Orb you will need a Microsoft MCE-compatible Infra-Red (IR) Blaster (usually comes bundled with the MCE remote control). The following Set-Top Boxes are supported by Orb:
TiVo Series 1 and Series 2
Motorola DCT-2000 to DCT-6000
Scientific Atlanta (SA) Explorer Series 2000 to 8000
Echostar 301 and 501 for Dish Networks
Remote Controls and IR Blasters
The following Remote Controls include IR Blasters supported by Orb:
Philips Media Center Remote Control
SMK Remote Control for Windows XP Media Center Edition
Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition Remote Control
Hewlett Packard Remote Control for Windows XP Media Center Edition
USB-UIRT (Universal Infrared Receiver Transmitter)
ADS IR Blaster
(*) NOTE: The ADS IR Blaster is for Windows XP only. It is NOT MCE-compatible and only works with the ADS Instant TV Deluxe USB tuner listed above

yzf750 said:
Try using a "fixed" speed on the orb on your kaiser instead of letting it run the speed test. Alot of times it does the speed test and finds for example 800kbps and sets orb at that on the ppc. Manually set it to say 300kbps and see if that solves the problem. Alot is dependent on your cell providers bandwidth, they may have good bursts at times but then drop in speed between them.
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Any ideas how to do that matey? I was looking for something similar but couldnt find it anywhere.
Thanks

Soz, RemE is correct here.
Sling is perfect because it will give you acces to what you have at home with full control via PPC or your laptop or as in my case my Media PC connected to my TV.
Slinger's do it their 'Home' way....

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Watching live TV from your pc at home! (?)

I almost completed my post...and then i pressed my backspace key...so i can start over again
Hello,
I was wondering if there are people who are interested in watching live tv on there windows mobile phone from your pc at home...(?)
Last week i was searching for tools/progs like snapstream(stream live tv/record/schedule etc...) but it wasn't working good enough for me...
I just wanted a simple program to scan for tv channels...name them...and watch them on my kaiser...
So after a few hours programming... it worked
A moment ago i was driving my car and watching tv(350kb(its)s) on my kaiser over hsdpa / umts using my tv card in my pc at home...
The only thing i need to do is make a simple GUI that you can access on your kaiser using pocket ie/opera etc... In this webpage there will be very big buttons (for ex. CNN) so when you press this verry big button (you can't miss ) it will start CNN in TCMPM or windows media player...
(These buttons will be created dynamicly using a xml with your tv channels/freq/descriptions) so you can customize it or auto scan for channels...
Also you will be able to customize output quality...
Are there people who are interested in this? If so i'll will post some beta versions here
Let me know!
God bless!
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Ok well...
I made an installer you can download it at: ShareTV
It is an early version of it, but for me it works great!
Before you install ShareTV.msi
- install Microsoft .NET framework v3.5
- install windows media encoder v9
ShareTV will automaticly startup a little http/wwwebserver on port 80... but if you need to change this port number (firewall/dmz or what else) it's possible! Just take a look at ShareTV.exe.config!
In wwwroot folder you will find index.htm and template.htm. template.htm is needed to export your channels...
So first Autoscan channels in ShareTV after this you can (if you like) customize this index.htm the way you want!
Enoy! And if you have quetions or suggestion don't hesitate and please let me know!
Her are some screenshots...
Interested!
VERY interested
WiFi as well as Hspda?
stream media from pc to phone
i use a nice piece of freeware called orb.. streams all your media from your pc across your network or across internet.. web interface is pretty cool can be set for different devices and depending on the pc you can stream to multi devices at once (xbox, ps3, wii, pc, phone etc). and if you have a tv card it will stream that as well as any webcams etc u have attached. also allows download access to shared folders so you can have all your data on the go...
anyway... it's free so maybe it'll work for ya.
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VERY interested
WiFi as well as Hspda?
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Yes Wifi as well
gelf said:
i use a nice piece of freeware called orb.. streams all your media from your pc across your network or across internet.. web interface is pretty cool can be set for different devices and depending on the pc you can stream to multi devices at once (xbox, ps3, wii, pc, phone etc). and if you have a tv card it will stream that as well as any webcams etc u have attached. also allows download access to shared folders so you can have all your data on the go...
anyway... it's free so maybe it'll work for ya.
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Thnx for your tip! But i didn't really like orb... its a nice app but not for me
I'd be very interested in such a thing as i've been trying to find a way to stream ESPN and several other channels with no luck. Where would the streaming source come from however?
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I'd be very interested in such a thing as i've been trying to find a way to stream ESPN and several other channels with no luck. Where would the streaming source come from however?
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The source come's from your pc at 'home'...
The only thing is that this pc must have a tv capture card
Orb works OK if you have the TV tunercard and dont wanna spend any money, but if your willing to spend a little cash go for a cheap slingbox off ebay and you will have your entire cable line-up at your disposal.
I've found a app called Mytinytv where you can stream tv but the only problem is (for me) he find only one channel so if you can make something that works with my hercules smarttv i would love it
Very interested. That would be sweet. Trying out orb now it is ok. I would love to try your app out.
Thanks!
if this is somehow possible with dvb-s cards, i'm very interested
Deba$er said:
if this is somehow possible with dvb-s cards, i'm very interested
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Hi!
Wel'll first i have to buy a dvb-s card... because i don't have one..
But when i have it will also support dvb-s cards yes
ah, okay.
i thought most of nowadays tv-cards run by bda-drivers and so they're all compatible to every program that supports bda.
hm
but
hm
no, i won't donate you a dvbs card! i can wait!
very nice app but my video card is not supported can you fix this. It would be nice
It does seem that Orb has already crossed this birdge... I like the interface and functionality of it. It is worth a look!

New Roku Streaming Stick

Roku has announced a new HDMI stick that's obviously intended to compete with the Chromecast: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_...ck-vs-google-chromecast-how-do-they-stack-up/
It costs $50, but comes with a WiFi remote.control that's probably worth the extra $15. It also supports 5 GHz WiFi, unlike the Chromecast. It looks like it will be the same as the current Roku models under the hood in terms of processor and firmware.
So if the Roku 3 already implements DIAL, what Chromecast apps will run on the new Roku Streaming Stick if it's also a DIAL device? Are the apps developed with Google's sdk Chromecast-specific?
Update: siratfus points out below that the Engadget article says that the hardware will be based on the lower-spec Roku 1. Does that mean it won't support DIAL? Because my Roku 2 XS has the same spec, and it doesn't support DIAL even with the latest Roku firmware. But why would Roku introduce a product to compete with the Chromecast and not have it support DIAL?
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Roku has announced a new HDMI stick that's obviously intended to compete with the Chromecast: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_...ck-vs-google-chromecast-how-do-they-stack-up/
It costs $50, but comes with a WiFi remote.control that's probably worth the extra $15. It also supports 5 GHz WiFi, unlike the Chromecast. It looks like it will be the same as a Roku 3 under the hood in terms of processor and firmware.
So if the Roku 3 already implements DIAL, what Chromecast apps will run on the new Roku Streaming Stick if it's also a DIAL device? Are the apps developed with Google's sdk Chromecast-specific?
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I don't see any info that suggests it would support "Chromecast" type of streaming. Face it there are hundreds of options for media boxes/sticks, I wanted a standard media box/stick I'd just get a Android stick. No limitations to apps there! I personally love how Chromecast works in that you have rich full featured control on your phone/tablet but once the streaming starts it hands off everything to Chromecast and you can do what you want with your phone/tablet. I just wish all apps allowed you to transition from one phone/tablet to another seamlessly like Plex (some others do this do but can't remember right now). What i mean by this is that you can resume control from another device. Last wish is that a new Android TV (Google TV) comes out with HDMI pass-though and Chromecast built in. No changing inputs and the ability to push content from any supported Chromecast app.
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So if the Roku 3 already implements DIAL, what Chromecast apps will run on the new Roku Streaming Stick if it's also a DIAL device? Are the apps developed with Google's sdk Chromecast-specific?
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I believe DIAL compliance would allow the Roku stick to be seen by YouTube/etc.
However, the player (stick) end may be different between Roku and Chromecast if the player app isn't web-driven. I think one of the smart folks mentioned that Netflix has its own Chromecast-native app.
We'll have to wait and see... The 5 GHz band on the Roku stick will definitely give it an advantage, at least for households with a 5 GHz AP.
Personally I'm on the fence about the remote... If it supports the audio playback from the remote control that's a definite win though.
DJames1 said:
Roku has announced a new HDMI stick that's obviously intended to compete with the Chromecast: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_...ck-vs-google-chromecast-how-do-they-stack-up/
It costs $50, but comes with a WiFi remote.control that's probably worth the extra $15. It also supports 5 GHz WiFi, unlike the Chromecast. It looks like it will be the same as a Roku 3 under the hood in terms of processor and firmware.
So if the Roku 3 already implements DIAL, what Chromecast apps will run on the new Roku Streaming Stick if it's also a DIAL device? Are the apps developed with Google's sdk Chromecast-specific?
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I read on endgadget that it's actually the Roku 1 crammed in a stick. On the Roku comparison chart, the Roku 3 is still listed as 5x faster than the rest. But cheap enough to own both, if only just for Amazon Prime.
is there any alternative APP remote control i can use for roku stick? something that works with WIFI DIRECT? i cant use my roku stick and its not connected to my wifi network any more
I have a question about Roku Stick is there anyway possible to install KODI on the Roku Stick

Why not just this simple open Chromecast alternative?

Hello folks,
I got my Chromecast, it works, I like it.
But I find it unnerving that the system is so closed.
Some guy has, months ago, released something he called "PiCast" as an open alternative on the Raspberry Pi.
I wonder: Why aren't there more devs bringing an open, extensible alternative, installable on a Raspberry Pi or other small computer, to life? I really don't understand it, since. like I see it, it doesn't seem particularly complicated! The following features would at least have to be implemented:
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- media player software which can play a broad palette of formats and stream from different sources (VLC, Mplayer etc. come to mind an can surely be used as a part of the project)
- web interface which accepts URLs (web or LAN) of files that are to be played and passes them to the media player; and which accepts control commands for the now playing file like pause, forward etc.
Most convenient would be if these URLs could not only be http ones, but also SMB, streaming protocols etc.
Don't we all want a device where we NOT are confined to certain formats?
- apps for computers and mobile devices which let the user choose files he wants to watch / listen to and pass the URL to the web interface and which pass control commands like pause, forward to the web interface
- a customized, lean OS with a Chromecast-like, very simple UI
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Any thoughts?
Best wishes,
Hasenbein
The entire reason for the CCast (which essentially replaced the GoogleTV fiasco) was to keep the system closed enough to get Content providers to support it due to the ability to use DRM and control the players being used.
Why do you think other projects like XBMC still to this day do NOT (and will NEVER) have access to Netflix for any sustainable time because Netflix will change their encryption and break any player app they do not have complete control over.
GoogleTV was actually blacklisted by the network websites to prevent it from playing content. All because it was just a little too open for their liking.
What @Asphyx said, plus Android TV sticks have been around for quite some time and already do similar. The key difference is market share. History is littered with proposed "standards" that never won. In the end it's not what is better, sometimes not even what's cheaper, but what picks up.
Iomega's Zip drive was inferior to SyQuest EZ drive, but Iomega won by marketing and hence adoption. Developers had more incentive to support Zip drives (not that much was specifically required but still) because there was a wider audience and market for them.
Adobe's changing the design market the same way. I still have CS6, but more and more I'm getting files from people on CC. And it's annoying. Essentially I'm being forced into CC if I want to work with anybody outside of my four walls.
Even though it's only available in select retail channels, Google is pushing Chromecast with TV ads. The fact that they've sold (or at least shipped) millions is a strong testament to its adoption rate. Even at my local stores, I can say just by the serial numbers they've cycled through, at least 500 have left the shelf since August 2013.
The market share attracts content providers, and the closed nature gives their lawyers ease regarding theft. Sure, there will always be people supporting TV sticks with clever solutions that are free or near-free, though they sometimes require jumping through numerous hoops (even moreso than Chromecast of today), and if something doesn't work as required, it involved researching. It's not like you can put in a support ticket or call support. Granted, Chromecast support isn't outstanding... but many of my non-techy friends have adopted Chromecast, even without hearing from me, and these are not people who visit XDA, nor are they people who would ever have run across or even considered an Android TV stick, nor are they people who have any idea of what an Arduino or Raspberry Pi is.
The draw is the consumer, and the consumer needs content to consume. Which means longevity of the product/concept/standard depends on support from the content providers.
At the price point of Chromecast it seems to be designed to draw in not just first timers, but also customers who may already have a media to TV solution but it's lacking in simplicity or quality. E.g. maybe you have a powerful HTPC that suits all your needs but Netflix is in low-def for DRM reasons. And YouTube stutters on 1080p because Windows keeps trying to do other things in the background while you play it. OK then you put $35 down on a Chromecast and now your Netflix & YouTube videos look better.
And similarly, it's cheap enough that if Chromecast alone does not suit your needs, you can say, well hey, all I spent on the Chromecast was $35, so I don't see why that should stop me from also buying that other media box that does more things.
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At the price point of Chromecast it seems to be designed to draw in not just first timers, but also customers who may already have a media to TV solution but it's lacking in simplicity or quality.
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I'm definitely in this boat.
I have a semi-Smart TV that supports YouTube, Amazon, and a about 12 other "channels" - but its interface is slow and clunky. It also doesn't support DLNA video (sadly, one model year too early).
I have a HTPC that I use to play DVDs and Blu-rays from my media server, and even though I have a BT keyboard remote for it, navigating between Windows Media Center and browser-sourced video is fiddly.
Chromecast didn't replace my HTPC, it's just giving me a much easier way to view those browser-sourced videos.
However, if/when Chromecast gets DVD and BD playback, it very well might replace my HTPC...
http://blog.vudu.com/?p=10711
https://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?112941-UltraViolet-FAQ-s
Vudu ultraviolet on Chromecast will displace the need for a disc player or home video server for a number of people. Not sure yet but I'll probably be one of them.
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At the price point of Chromecast it seems to be designed to draw in not just first timers, but also customers who may already have a media to TV solution but it's lacking in simplicity or quality. E.g. maybe you have a powerful HTPC that suits all your needs but Netflix is in low-def for DRM reasons. And YouTube stutters on 1080p because Windows keeps trying to do other things in the background while you play it. OK then you put $35 down on a Chromecast and now your Netflix & YouTube videos look better.
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Yup. I really care about picture quality, so Chromecast offers the cheapest way to get SuperHD Netflix on my TV. If I wasn't bothered about the quality, I'd just connect my tablet with a cable whenever I wanted to watch something.
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http://blog.vudu.com/?p=10711
https://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?112941-UltraViolet-FAQ-s
Vudu ultraviolet on Chromecast will displace the need for a disc player or home video server for a number of people. Not sure yet but I'll probably be one of them.
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Interesting service and a good idea....
Unfortunately $2 per SD conversion of DVD or $5 to HD is a bit too pricey considering how I have the equipment to rip my own DVD (I have more than 3000 titles in my collection), do the Upconvert and even rip the subtitles to put into an MKV.
But this service will do well because of the sheer number of people who do not have the capability to do that and the ease of use.
I wonder are they actually converting your DVDs or are they doing the much smarter thing and letting you insert the disk, check it for validity and then just giving you access to the already encoded content they have stored?
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I wonder are they actually converting your DVDs or are they doing the much smarter thing and letting you insert the disk, check it for validity and then just giving you access to the already encoded content they have stored?
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The second one, so far as I know.
And if you just enter your digital copy information that works too.
My son-in-law does that but I haven't asked him about the details - he's very happy with the service though.
It's a great Idea....
I have a similar validation system I use....
If I own it already on disc then I feel I have the right to download it if I choose...I paid them their cut so no Guilt involved.
LOL
Similar but I don't pay the conversion fee!
I have a small collection.
I got tired years ago of format changes, player upkeep and having more plastic in the house, so I've been satisfied with rentals. I keep a few favorites on my shelves just in case.
And I had one of my media servers die of old age a few months ago. I'm tired of maintaining my own cloud. Been there, done that. Still do my music and just a few movies now.
I like the ultraviolet model, it sounds simple to me.
And to the OP -
LocalCast does direct entry of http and smb addresses.
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I have a small collection.
I got tired years ago of format changes, player upkeep and having more plastic in the house, so I've been satisfied with rentals. I keep a few favorites on my shelves just in case.
And I had one of my media servers die of old age a few months ago. I'm tired of maintaining my own cloud. Been there, done that. Still do my music and just a few movies now.
I like the ultraviolet model, it sounds simple to me.
And to the OP -
LocalCast does direct entry of http and smb addresses.
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yeah unfortunately I live in a very rural area and Cable and Internet outages are common (all the damn trees!)
So when that happens I really have no other recourse than to use whatever is on my Media server to entertain myself...
I went out and invested in a good NAS with Raid that holds 16Tb worth of drives (don't get full16Tbs with Raid though...I may even need to double that soon as I'm running out of space).
My Media Server is my HTPC so I can simply replace that unit if it craps out and just re-install the server software and map the drives.
Been checking out that Chromecast store app...a Lot of stuff in there I didn't know about...

Most Effective way to stream Local files.

Hey Guys, new to the forum.
I purchased the chromecast, looking to stream local files and get rid of my hdmi cable. I can cast a tab fine, but experience a bit of lag when viewing at max bit-rate. (extreme 720p)
My computer is i7 4770k @3.5ghz and card is HD7970. SO i dont think hardware is the issue. My router is a Linksys EA6900 and its about 5m away from the dongle.
Has anyone managed to actually stream full HD to the chrome cast without noticeable lag or reduction if FPS, or is it simply not available at this point of time?
Thanks
MaverickH93 said:
Hey Guys, new to the forum.
I purchased the chromecast, looking to stream local files and get rid of my hdmi cable. I can cast a tab fine, but experience a bit of lag when viewing at max bit-rate. (extreme 720p)
My computer is i7 4770k @3.5ghz and card is HD7970. SO i dont think hardware is the issue. My router is a Linksys EA6900 and its about 5m away from the dongle.
Has anyone managed to actually stream full HD to the chrome cast without noticeable lag or reduction if FPS, or is it simply not available at this point of time?
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720p tab casting even of Flash video works well for me, but I seem to be an exception rather than the norm...
Are there any obstructions between your router and Chromecast, especially the TV itself?
My system is a dual Quad-Core Opteron 2.9 GHz Shanghai, 32 GB RAM, running Win 7 Professional x64. AMD/ATI Radeon HD 7750 graphics.
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720p tab casting even of Flash video works well for me, but I seem to be an exception rather than the norm...
Are there any obstructions between your router and Chromecast, especially the TV itself?
My system is a dual Quad-Core Opteron 2.9 GHz Shanghai, 32 GB RAM, running Win 7 Professional x64. AMD/ATI Radeon HD 7750 graphics.
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Its pretty much line of sight and the perpendicular to the back of the TV. What kind of router are you using?
Also what file type are the videos you are watching and how big are the files. For example, if i watch a .mp4 blue-ray RIP its size is around 1.8Gb i experience minor FPS decrease on the High setting. Extreme just leads to lagging.
The way i see it there's the potential for 3 issues.
1. The computer hardware
2. The router connection
3. Google chrome's wireless hardware
MaverickH93 said:
Hey Guys, new to the forum.
I purchased the chromecast, looking to stream local files and get rid of my hdmi cable. I can cast a tab fine, but experience a bit of lag when viewing at max bit-rate. (extreme 720p)
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to stream local file (movie) is better to send the file and let Chromecast buffer and decode it than stream a tab.
I've been using this here and works like charm: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/videostream-for-google-ch/cnciopoikihiagdjbjpnocolokfelagl
I don't believe I tried sending a 1080p but 720p is flawless and I can't see why it wouldn't
They also have an Android app for remote control the stream, so I pretty much click play on the PC and sit on the sofa with the phone to control.
If your video is not in a compatible format, I'll go ahead and do a shamelessly self-propaganda: I did this little batch converter specifically for the CC and it seems to be working fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699870
Budius said:
to stream local file (movie) is better to send the file and let Chromecast buffer and decode it than stream a tab.
I've been using this here and works like charm: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/videostream-for-google-ch/cnciopoikihiagdjbjpnocolokfelagl
I don't believe I tried sending a 1080p but 720p is flawless and I can't see why it wouldn't
They also have an Android app for remote control the stream, so I pretty much click play on the PC and sit on the sofa with the phone to control.
If your video is not in a compatible format, I'll go ahead and do a shamelessly self-propaganda: I did this little batch converter specifically for the CC and it seems to be working fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699870
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Yes i tied to use Videostream, but for some reason it gets stuck on the loading screen. I turned off all my firewalls, changed permissions, ran chrome canary, ran as admin but it still doesn't work.
i think that's the issue. CC needs to buffer video. It sounds like VideoStream is the kind of program i need so will just have to keep working at it.
MaverickH93 said:
Yes i tied to use Videostream, but for some reason it gets stuck on the loading screen. I turned off all my firewalls, changed permissions, ran chrome canary, ran as admin but it still doesn't work.
i think that's the issue. CC needs to buffer video. It sounds like VideoStream is the kind of program i need so will just have to keep working at it.
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well, those HERE are the media types that Chromecast can natively run. Anything besides that it will not work (unless you're just mirroring the screen, but as you noticed, it's pretty slow, or you have some media server on your computer doing some on-the-fly conversion, which can run pretty slow and heat your PC a lot).
I suggest getting a video that you're sure within the spec to test. Probably if you download a YouTube from those "youtube downloaders" website or just something you recoded with your phone, it will be in spec (mp4 container, h264 codec, AAC or MP3 audio).
So what I've done (check my last post) was to code myself a batch converter (helps being a Java developer) so currently my computer at home is converting my whole video collection to compatible format.
Can I upload a mp4 video say dropbox and stream it to chromecast? Any online hosts allow this?
LoL.
I have a Raspberry Pi running Rasbian and it has 1TB USB drive attached, I'm running Apache2 and point it to my drive so it appears in http. I then use the Android NAS Cast app, settings configure to the http of the directory with the MP4 and it casts perfectly decent quality. So there is no desktop involved, Android in your hand and the small Linux server and Chromecast.
As has been said, Chromecast as very limited codecs. You can explicitly seek out the compatible videos, or recode using ffmpeg. The Raspberry Pi is too weak to do real-time recoding but you can batch up and have recoding those files not compatible, and then if low on disk-space, delete the original non-compatible.
I'm 90% through overnight building my own Rasbian system (been on a Dockstar on older Linux for years) and built ffmpeg overnight.
nigelhealy said:
As has been said, Chromecast as very limited codecs. You can explicitly seek out the compatible videos, or recode using ffmpeg. The Raspberry Pi is too weak to do real-time recoding but you can batch up and have recoding those files not compatible,
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Like I said on the other thread.
I found a FFMPEG for RaspianPi but it was so painfully slow. Like a low-res 20 seconds video would take 30 min to encode. Now imagine a tera-byte drive it would take a few years, not really good. Best option is really to get the best-fastest machine you have available and leave it running for a week or two.
Budius said:
Like I said on the other thread.
I found a FFMPEG for RaspianPi but it was so painfully slow. Like a low-res 20 seconds video would take 30 min to encode. Now imagine a tera-byte drive it would take a few years, not really good. Best option is really to get the best-fastest machine you have available and leave it running for a week or two.
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Tried running it locally (Ubuntu desktop) lots of error messages saying
Failed to get FFPROBE
I have the ffprobe command though.
nigelhealy said:
Tried running it locally (Ubuntu desktop) lots of error messages saying
Failed to get FFPROBE
I have the ffprobe command though.
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what does say in the LOG tab?
Try running from the terminal: ffprobe <video_path>.mp4 Does it work or does it say "can't find command ffprobe" ?
at the end of this https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide it shows how to add the ffmpeg to the path
ps.: let's keep debug/conversation regarding the Converter on the converter thread? I guess it's more logical and we don't hijack MaverickH93s thread
moved to the app thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51533199
I use Plex and I love it, try it if you haven't!
The best way is Localcast https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.stefanpledl.localcast
Great for android!
Enviado desde mi Amazon Kindle Fire HD mediante Tapatalk
MaverickH93 said:
Its pretty much line of sight and the perpendicular to the back of the TV. What kind of router are you using?
Also what file type are the videos you are watching and how big are the files. For example, if i watch a .mp4 blue-ray RIP its size is around 1.8Gb i experience minor FPS decrease on the High setting. Extreme just leads to lagging.
The way i see it there's the potential for 3 issues.
1. The computer hardware
2. The router connection
3. Google chrome's wireless hardware
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So your router is behind the TV? That's how mine is set up, although my Chromecast is actually off to the side of the TV.
My router is a Netgear WNDR4500
I've mainly been watching Flash videos, as that's what the websites my little one likes has (Nickelodeon, BabyFirstTV, Disney Junior)
nigelhealy said:
LoL.
I have a Raspberry Pi running Rasbian and it has 1TB USB drive attached, I'm running Apache2 and point it to my drive so it appears in http. I then use the Android NAS Cast app, settings configure to the http of the directory with the MP4 and it casts perfectly decent quality. So there is no desktop involved, Android in your hand and the small Linux server and Chromecast.
As has been said, Chromecast as very limited codecs. You can explicitly seek out the compatible videos, or recode using ffmpeg. The Raspberry Pi is too weak to do real-time recoding but you can batch up and have recoding those files not compatible, and then if low on disk-space, delete the original non-compatible.
I'm 90% through overnight building my own Rasbian system (been on a Dockstar on older Linux for years) and built ffmpeg overnight.
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Boy wish you had a tutorial or walk through of setting this up. I would love to use my beaglebone black for that if possible. Any links that would point me in right direction? mind sharing?
I would really like to use headless systems for this. Thanks
I think Plex is the easiest way to stream local movies since it makes everything organized and can convert file formats if needed. The phone app makes it a breeze to control everything. I use localcast to stream pics and videos taken from my phone.
paracha3 said:
Boy wish you had a tutorial or walk through of setting this up. I would love to use my beaglebone black for that if possible. Any links that would point me in right direction? mind sharing?
I would really like to use headless systems for this. Thanks
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as far as I Googled beaglebone is just a little Linux machine like the RaspberryPi. Just install a mini-DLNA on it and that's all you need. Most Android apps in Google Play will run from a DLNA (bubble and LocalCast do it).
Quick Google I found this tuto on mini-DLNA on RaspberryPi (http://bbrks.me/rpi-minidlna-media-server/) should work for the beaglebone too.
I have to throw my hat in the ring for plex, too. Downside is that you have to put your videos in a certain folder and name them a certain way for the server to see them. It doesnt let you just open a random video file like VLC and have it sent to the chromecast. Upside is that it transcodes the videos to a supported format on the fly.
As far as streaming videos/pictures off your phone, there are a few choices, but none of them are ready for primetime yet. Allcast shows some of the videos/pictures taken on my phone sideways and upside down. I also havent found an easy way to tell Allcast to stop casting and return to the chromecast homescreen (screensaver). Localcast has an option to let you rotate the files so you can at least see them with the correct orientation, but it still has some issues with connecting. Localcast does, however, have an option to stop casting so you dont burn-in its screen on your TV.
gianptune said:
I have to throw my hat in the ring for plex, too. Downside is that you have to put your videos in a certain folder and name them a certain way for the server to see them. It doesnt let you just open a random video file like VLC and have it sent to the chromecast. Upside is that it transcodes the videos to a supported format on the fly.
As far as streaming videos/pictures off your phone, there are a few choices, but none of them are ready for primetime yet. Allcast shows some of the videos/pictures taken on my phone sideways and upside down. I also havent found an easy way to tell Allcast to stop casting and return to the chromecast homescreen (screensaver). Localcast has an option to let you rotate the files so you can at least see them with the correct orientation, but it still has some issues with connecting. Localcast does, however, have an option to stop casting so you dont burn-in its screen on your TV.
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The naming should be a non-issue though. Most of the movies and shows you download are already named the correct way.

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I have a Nook Tablet running @amaces AOSP 7.0 and my husband has an HD running CM 11. The "cast" feature, as far as I can tell, does not seem to do anything. It doesn't see my Win 10 laptop and does not see a generic Miracast dongle I just picked up (the Win 10 PC does see the dongle...).
Does the cast feature support Chromecast? If so, what's the experience like? The main reason my husband's HD is still on CM 11 is to maintain functionality of the HDMI out. But we've run into issues with our local newspaper app (of all things) after an update and are now looking at trying the last CM 13 build to support HDMI out.
It would be simpler if the cast function worked (I.e., cast the entire screen) as well as the really simple HDMI out. I get it, people don't like wires. But for the price (now $10 online at B&N), that cable is pretty sweet.
So...what works for whole screen casting? We don't have smart TV's and don't use any streaming services. 90% of the video material is local, played with either MX player or Kodi. Occasional streams via Kodi.
I added an entry in the FAQ addressing some of these concerns.
nmyshkin said:
Does the cast feature support Chromecast? If so, what's the experience like? The main reason my husband's HD is still on CM 11 is to maintain functionality of the HDMI out. But we've run into issues with our local newspaper app (of all things) after an update and are now looking at trying the last CM 13 build to support HDMI out.
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Yes, full screen casting definitely wants a Chromecast receiver. I think it works pretty well, especially for static content; highly dynamic content might have slight delays, or out of sync audio. Movies should be fine, but really, you should send video, YouTube, etc using in-app casting, so all A/V processing is done on the receiver (rather than full screen re-encoded on tablet).
nmyshkin said:
It would be simpler if the cast function worked (I.e., cast the entire screen) as well as the really simple HDMI out. I get it, people don't like wires. But for the price (now $10 online at B&N), that cable is pretty sweet.
So...what works for whole screen casting? We don't have smart TV's and don't use any streaming services. 90% of the video material is local, played with either MX player or Kodi. Occasional streams via Kodi.
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While full screen casting works, for the above reasons, it's always better to use in-app casting, if available. Even with local content, finding an app that processes only the actual media (rather than capture/encode entire screen) is usually preferable. I looked at HDMI intermittently, but no idea what's broken yet.

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