android anyone? (no noobs please) HTC Wizard - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

this thread is to discuss android on the HTC Wizard. what do you think? how will it be ported? can it be ported?
PS. this OS can work on HTC devices (not for now) for those that think this is useless. At least its better then that iphone os

Anyone

I guess everyone's suddenly n00b?

heres some images...
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...and its pretty ugly! The software is made by Swedish software vendor TAT- quite an appropriate name!

Those are supposed Android OS images? From where??
ultraprime: I've been following the progress as closely as possible. Can't wait to see Android on my Tilt. So far, a dev on the Android Google Group has managed to dump the filesystem: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/277a73b32a02f26a?hl=en . Great, but my Tilt is not already running Linux.
I imagine it won't be long now! Do you have experience with Linux on HTC Devices? It's something I've been reading about but haven't taken the leap yet.
Charles

ultraprimeomega said:
this thread is to discuss android on the HTC Wizard. what do you think?
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You need a running linux kernel on the wizard first. The main roadblock
is the CPLD register access over i2c.

Here's a recent android presentation video:
http://tinyurl.com/2rqtw5
Nice!

Discussing android porting now is IMHO completely pointless at the moment... It does not exist yet...
Maybe this time next year...
Mirek

it may be pointless but good idea to talk about.
Project sites for porting to the x50v
http://android.cookieofdoom.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344076

Android would be great! What are the plans?
Hi,
I think this would be a good project, and in fact it might be helpful for supporting and advertising the new platform if Android could be used on already existing phones as well. I would definitely install Android on my Wizard rather than staying with Windows Mobile (even though TNT/its right provides great WM builds).
Are there any plans to port Android on existing HTC phones? I am sure that the Wizard is fast enough. Actually, from the technical side there was not much progress since then. Even in 2007 HTC and others presented phones with TI OMAP chip running on 200 MHz, which is sufficient. And the display resolution is stuck to 320x240, unfortunately. In fact, I plan to stay with my Wizard until I can get a phone that replaces my Notebook! Therefore, Android would be welcome meanwhile ...
What are your thoughts?
Eriol

Hi!
I have an HTC trinity since a year now and I've been waiting for a linux port since then.... I swear, if I was a coder I would start a project yesterday... but I'm just a sysadmin and the only code i can piss is script.
Windows mobile is an insult to such a nice device (flashing to WM6 is nearly useless.... and sometimes worst) so to me it would be great to just have a better OS on it.
To be straight, when I bought it I was certain that someone would have been able to port Linux to it so Android....would be perfect.
Of course i'll be happy to help in any way if someone sees a role for my "resources" :-D

the screenshot posted are ugly but the presentation of android that i saw on youtube are beautiful. its got all those iphone kind of transition effects and its a O.S so it would be great . In windows the emulators provide transition effects and finally reveals the traditional windows os.

News update:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265&page=11

I have a working kernel + Android combo
but as of now, it's pretty much useless..can't really interact with it.
Will post a guide/ howto if anyone needs it.
kudos to the guys on #linwizard!

Maybe we should keep stuff from linwizard were?

Just asking whats the status of getting android on the wizard??
( unfortunatly im a non coder so cant realy help in setting it up but i would help in testing it)
But one thing im really intrested in is getting linux running on the wizard tht would be awesome but unfortunatly the linwizard project seems to have slowed down considerably.Anyway cheers to the developers so far and heres hoping a breakthru comes soon.

Tada!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dm-EznlpMI
Check it out guys, hopefully not long now.

kyuzo1 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dm-EznlpMI
Check it out guys, hopefully not long now.
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Nice
Now we need is the phone working (RIL driver compatible with Wizard). I've done some experiments with android's SDK, if this thing gets to work properly, that would be great! (I was working on a online backup system for your contacts, events, etc).

Excellent man , excellent. So hopefully we wont have much longer to wait.

Updates?
Gentlemen (and Ladies, if appropriate),
Can you give us an update on your progress getting Android running on the Wizard? I am eagerly looking forward to the experience and check here regularly.
Thank you for sharing your work.

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android on the wing?

Has anyone heard of the android os being put on a wing? If u know anything about it let me know or email me a link [email protected] I have a g1 but also have a wing and like android system better than windows if u can help thanks
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I had the G1 phone for about a week after having the Wing for 2 years ... I took the G1 back and got a refund. While the interface was ok, and it has alot of potential .. the battery life was horrible and the lack of features for business use (exchange server, connecting to outlook) made it too much of a teeny booper phone instead of something for a professional.
duprade said:
I had the G1 phone for about a week after having the Wing for 2 years ... I took the G1 back and got a refund. While the interface was ok, and it has alot of potential .. the battery life was horrible and the lack of features for business use (exchange server, connecting to outlook) made it too much of a teeny booper phone instead of something for a professional.
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he was asking if Android was ported to the wing yet not ones Personal exp with the G1... i also am wondering if they ported the Android for the wing also.
diabolical28 said:
he was asking if Android was ported to the wing yet not ones Personal exp with the G1... i also am wondering if they ported the Android for the wing also.
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No, but there IS an existing porting thread, already. Although, I'm the only one in it that has attempted to port anything... (As in, not just putting another phone's in our phones to see it run, but doing a full port by compiling the kernel for our phones.)
Ivanmmj.
that's excellent. Let us know once your done! I'd love to try Android on my wing.
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Ivanmmj.
that's excellent. Let us know once your done! I'd love to try Android on my wing.
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I gave up a long time ago. Between my busy life (work, school and family) and the fact that I lost my progress due to an OS issue on my laptop, I just gave up on it. Sorry.
duprade said:
I had the G1 phone for about a week after having the Wing for 2 years ... I took the G1 back and got a refund. While the interface was ok, and it has alot of potential .. the battery life was horrible and the lack of features for business use (exchange server, connecting to outlook) made it too much of a teeny booper phone instead of something for a professional.
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You can get Exchange on the G1 with no problem. A program called "MailShadowG" from cemaphore.com syncs your exchange/outlook in realtime push with Gmail/Calendar/Contacts - it actually works really well.
I switched from the 8525 Win Mo phone to the G1 and could never go back. I'll agree that the battery life is pretty bad though. But I haven't found it to be that big of an issue myself. The better browser, maps, gps, accelerometer, etc. all make it worth the upgrade. Will be nicer when OpenOffice or some sort of office apps are created/ported over to it.
vr24 said:
You can get Exchange on the G1 with no problem. A program called "MailShadowG" from cemaphore.com syncs your exchange/outlook in realtime push with Gmail/Calendar/Contacts - it actually works really well.
I switched from the 8525 Win Mo phone to the G1 and could never go back. I'll agree that the battery life is pretty bad though. But I haven't found it to be that big of an issue myself. The better browser, maps, gps, accelerometer, etc. all make it worth the upgrade. Will be nicer when OpenOffice or some sort of office apps are created/ported over to it.
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Try turning off 3G, the GPS and the synchronizing to google at all times when you don't need them and that might help your battery life.
Not sure if this thread is still alive, but I just wanted to say that we've started a porting project at http://wing-linux.sf.net. So far we've got Android working pretty well on the Wing. No GSM, wifi, bluetooth or sound yet, but we're getting closer. Android 1.5 with full touchscreen support (and a mostly functional keyboard) is working.
We've also got an IRC channel on freenode.org for the project: #wing-linux.
- d
i tried this android today. there's version 0.3 worked really good!
then i upgraded from 6.1 to 6.5 and did not install it again. will try it out when there are new updates.
good luck for the project man, its looking VERY good!

WinMo & Xperia Drawbacks - Agree or Disagree?

Hey guys,
I got my Xperia in early October last year, and it was my first encounter with Windows Mobile. Like many of you I've had mixed feelings towards this device. I do think it can be a great phone - if you put some effort into it and with the help of the xda-developers.
But I took some time and wrote down everything that has annoyed me over the past year with WinMo and the Xperia. I thought it would be interesting to see if there are other Xperia owners out there that share my opinion
All That is Bad About Windows Mobile
So, is this article a load of cr*p or are my objections valid? Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks!
/Lars
Ì think you summed up about everything I know I hate - and love - about WM. Amen brother!
i agreed with you, but i prefer winmo 6.5 over the iphone, the blackberry and the e71.
Totally agree, and I started in somewhat the same situation.
The X1 is my first experience with Windows Mobile phones, even smartphones for that matter, and I found it horrible in the beginning. The only thing that has made it even harder for me than you is I use Apple pc's so I can't update my stock-rom without lending someones Windows pc and sure as hell can't try stuff like switching rom's!
i agree about the xperia bits and windows mobile 6.1 - but windows mobile is changing - the 6.5.2 builds with the buttons at the bottom are a huge improvement on the 6.1 we have at the moment and the Marketplace will also change Windows Mobile for the better
Agreed on most of it (99%) and laughed a lot, but FRACKING LOL'D at this:
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......but don't forget that there is a reason for the absence of those features... Why?...
...because.....
IT'S A GAMING MACHINE!
I agree too .. problem is there is no perfect device.
iPhone quite limits the software. No opera mini. No AVI playback.
WebOS and Android are still a bit young. We must wait. And in the time of X1, WebOS was not known and Android was just an infant.
WM plainly sucks, but most things can be fixed and it is actually possible to live with it.
Read the list but can't share all of it. I'm not very sensitive to GUI aspects because the critical items are one-timers mostly and you don't touch them every day. My point is that all the other fancy stuff on the market like iPhone and Android are basícally nice as well but they still are islands in a productivity kind of view. I need my windows/exchange connections and frankly, WiMo does the job. I need my particular range of software and I can get them for WiMo, I can't get that stuff for iPhone. An iPhone for me would just be "a phone" with web access but that's not what I carry that device for. I got my Spb 3 and got rid of the panelmanager (never found out what the heck I shall do with it anyway), got my street/air navigation stuff and my ERP system to run on it and I'm happy. I'm not after Facebook, I don't need strange themes every day, I don't even need weather because that's what I see when I don't stare at the screen but lift my neck (move muscles) and watch out of the window, the ones made of glas. Sometimes I think that I'm "just a happy customer" because that thing does exactly what I was expecting when I put my money on the table. Most of the things on your list I never even came across when using mine on a day-to-day basis. But I use my SE to do the job, it's not my job to do something an the SE.
Cheers - Susan
Well put!
+1 for "totally agree"...
all the frustrations ~and yet all the love too ...
Was my first WinMo too -and yes it took several weeks of trial and error(s)
Had it not been for XDA I'd have given up, but thanks to all the great people and stuff here (and my interest /patience /application) I now love my Xperia
Couldn't live without it
Thanks for all the excellent feedback! I was afraid the article was too long for anyone to be bothered reading it
Looks like you both agree and disagree with me, and that most of you have a love-hate relationship with WinMo as well.
@orelsi - do you follow Battlestar Galactica too? Frakking awesome show!
Great article. I agree with all of the minor irritants about default WinMo interface. Since I never really use MS built-in features and rely almost exclusively on 3rd Party (prettier) apps I don't really care about ugly touch-unfriendly interface.
However, for the uninitiated I can see that this could seem like a very large barrier to entry. I would have thought MS would have done to the old WinMo interface what they did with DOS and Win95/98. Hid it underneath a much prettier shell and NEVER see those old 3.1 style menus (unless a REALLY want to).
When people see my phone sometimes they ask about it and usually I can't recommend they buy it, unless they are pretty tech-savvy. Which I think is a little sad because I love my phone so much, and I wish everyone could get a device as capable as mine, but instead they settle for cruder devices.
Oh well, I am happy with mine, and maybe 6.5 and 7 will bring a little more for me to play with and recommend to others.
MapleDouglas said:
@orelsi - do you follow Battlestar Galactica too? Frakking awesome show!
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So say we all !

Official: No WM6.5 for X1

Now we all were informed: there won't be an official WM6.5-Update for the X1. *KLICK*
I anyway never believed in an update containing 6.5. Still hope for R4A with final-release of the new panelmanager and camera aso. .
Ahem....
Old news
Are you shure?
I wrote to SE Support Letter, and they say "YES, It's coming soon..."
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Are you shure?
I wrote to SE Support Letter, and they say "YES, It's coming soon..."
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Well, I'm not SURE.
What I've read it's not on the roadmap and until it's on official
SE support centre, it's not from SE...
via:
http://xperiancers.com/
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they would not say if there will be or not, its the right thing to do, if they do, it would hurt sales, especially if they are going to give the x1 the new panel manager
about the new panel manager; lets hope they do even if its wm 6.1, because to have 2 xperias that cannot run all the panels is not a good plan for a company...just imagine windows releasing vista= .exe and windows 7= .exg | OS X 10.5= .dmg and OS X 10.6= .dmh
that is what you call bull$%^t
they need to have all the panels to be compatible with the new panel manager and the new panel manager should be available for all wm xperias, even if we don't get the 6.5, the new panel manager is the main thing needed
They will never do it, because it will hurt their X2 sales. Why would anyone want the X2 if they have 6.5 on their X1? The only reason would be the 1ghz processor..... oh wait....
but thats only for the x1 customers really
just as a random note for you guys. although there's no offical wm6.5 rom out. I did find a non-offical 6.5 rom that I was able to use. It probably is a fake, but then it looks quite good to me.
We have an amazing community here at XDA with great cooks so official or not, the ROMs are superb! and we have many to choose from and can even make our own. I'm sure someone will release the new panel thing to us sooner or later.
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We have an amazing community here at XDA with great cooks so official or not, the ROMs are superb! and we have many to choose from and can even make our own. I'm sure someone will release the new panel thing to us sooner or later.
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i agree completely
a letter from first tier support is as valid as the gut feeling of the old guy on the park bench
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a letter from first tier support is as valid as the gut feeling of the old guy on the park bench
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I'd put more money on the old guy
The article the first post relates to is over a month old now even before 6.5 was launched should'nt we just give SE a chance see if they release before the end of the year!!
screw se...when they gt the x2 out vl rip it apart and port it to our x1..
we alrady have the x2 dump n playing around with it and also have a officaial xip for the xperia..
so its not far of..
rotastrain said:
screw se...when they gt the x2 out vl rip it apart and port it to our x1..
we alrady have the x2 dump n playing around with it and also have a officaial xip for the xperia..
so its not far of..
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Yeah, what he said.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
Sapa13 said:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
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The list is very small.
Surely if there is an offical xip they must be planing to release and update otherwise why go to the effort of creating it.
Just got of the phone with X1 support in the uk they have confirmed that we will not get an affical 6.5 update and no idea whether we will get new panel manger either.
So im with Rota it's up to us (by us i mean the superb chefs we have on xda) to look after us.
Real X1 XIP
How can there be a real XIP for custom ROM's if SE are not releasing a 6.5 upgrade?

Windows 6.5 in nexus!

Is this possible to install Windows mobile 6.5 in nexus replacing its android? I mean its obvious that Android doesnt have a variety of softwares like WM.
thanks
no. now go away little troll.
faz_2k2000 said:
Is this possible to install Windows mobile 6.5 in nexus replacing its android? I mean its obvious that Android doesnt have a variety of softwares like WM.
thanks
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Really???? seriously????? thats all i got to say WOW!!!!
LOL
in a while it will be a "variety of old software" ..
whyy!! how!! NOOOO!!
Don't do that to your nexus... It would be a shame.
christiankk said:
no. now go away little troll.
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This. (+10 characters)
wow.
You actually went there and compared windows mobile to android hahahah
I am being forced into using the htc hd2 for work.
And windows mobile have to be the biggest piece of **** i have ever had the unfortunate pleasure of dealing with.
The htc hd2 is such an amazing piece of hardware but windows mobile completely kills it.
Why would you even think about doing something like this?
And what software are you talking about? wm more the android?
I cant even find a bank of america, pandora, last.fm simple apps like that for windows mobile.
You are not worthy of the droid.
can a mod please close this thread? it's an obvious troll
hm, who is the troll?
The person who just asked a simple question, or the people who have to run to bash him? Don't think you hard, you might hurt yourself
A dual boot would be kind of cool. The one thing that bothers me the most about android is not having native windows office support. It would be nice to get a real MS office program on my nexus.
I hate the viewers and I'm not really sure I want to try an editing software for $15 which probably is crappy.
This thread fails.
... to entertain...
... to be relevant...
... to be humorous...
... to be likely...
... to be worthwhile...
... to B.S.
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I think this may have its own advantages actually...although I did move from the HD2 to the N1 almost solely for Android...it would be nice to be able to use Windows Phone 7 though (thinking that the games for it would be nice, the preview is nice after all)....
Honestly, if someone made some kind of emulation for it, I'd do it just because "my phone can handle it" etc.
I'm sorry, you missed April Fools Day about 29 days ago! FAIL!
Wow I guess android fan boys are just as rabid as the apple ones. Who knew? I know that it goes against logic that someone may actually like windows mobile..
I came from WM to android because its so boring!...
I luv android and its apps!
Yes, steady guys!
We generally allow a member a few posts before labelling them a troll.
Assume a first time poster is genuine before making assumptions. If you think what he wants is not a wise choice then explain why and don't assume he knows as much as you.
Words to the wise
Mike
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Seriously man, thats the funniest sh*t for today...
If you wanted WMo 6.5 then why did u waste your money on N1... You could have got that for a lot cheaper....
I should internet slap you.

bootdroid - Let's end it here shall we

When I was looking for x86 stuff today, I came across this "project" called bootdroid that is supposedly a guy coming along in his port of iOS to Android (blog of updates is here: http://bootdroid.blogspot.com/ code page here: http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/).
It amazes me how people think that, with all the issues we have with hardware acceleration, audio, and camera drivers with every OS update that SWITCHING to a completely different system wouldn't be out of the question.
Yes, for people still questioning, it IS fake. You're NEVER going to be able to run iOS natively on an Android device period. Likewise, you can barely get Android to recognize the iOS hardware.
A few things to note:
1) He's spamming it all over the place for SEO reasons,
2) The iPhone's/iPads interface images are static. They don't just "fit" into any given screen size, a reason why we can't have DPI changers like Android has. You'd have to totally recode the system to do what he's trying to make you THINK he's doing. He says he's using the iPad version... Have you ever tried using iPad apps on the iPhone? Well, it shows you only 4/100th of the screen. Yes, I have tried, and so have a few others.
3) He used old web app sample code that comes with Xcode. It's not even iOS5:
iOS4:
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iOS 5:
His:
Specifically, you can tell by the edges. His Push Notifications are also thick:
So move along now, nothing to see here.
Ga niet zomaar haten...
Seriously he is already been working on this project since ios 4 was still the latest and greatest. I don't know if you are an iPhone user or on the Android side but this is real. He has been providing very true ans interesting topics on his blogspot and I would like to see your face when an alpha build comes out.
People stop hating on this project please. Maybe this is fake but then again why would he been keeping the site alive for that long ? Do you think that someone that is wanting to say brick our devices is going to say don't promote this to much because the maker of thz port could be sued by Apple for the copyright things.
This is probably the last thing that Apple is waiting on, people using their (good and smooth with great exclusive apps) software on hardware that is better and faster and that fill better the needs of certain people. ( I don't like the iPhone's sound quality, display size, aspect ratio, glass that breaks rapidly...).
I have been an iPhone user since they came out. I also have Android devices. There are pros and cons with both.
I've managed to snag the GUI images that are available with the iOS 5 firmware and optimized it for the Android device I'm working with. I successfully built a Test App (GUI) in Xcode and added it as a system application to the iOS firmware currently running on my Android device.
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Again... That is NOT iOS5. I know how it looks like, and I know how Xcode looks and works.
Another thing, since iOS is basically OS X, what does this mean for driver support? There isn't a driver for any internal Android hardware that also works in OS X.
Lastly, just because it's better hardware doesn't mean the software will work better/faster on it. Being that Androids are mostly made out of plastic will most likely result in heating issues. The new iPad can hardly handle it.

			
				
Hunch
Well I noticed on the Bootdroid blog, that someone has released code for Bootdroid.
HTML:
https://github.com/Peter42/BootDroid
However, what we do not know is what the files actually do. I have tested it myself and... well... they do nothing that I can actually tell apart from run an app, which itself, does nothing? :S
However both the software and the app seems to be virus free, according to ESET and Lookout.
Is there any developers wishing to strip down these files, and have a little look inside to see what they do?
Thanks,
TyphoonScotland
The only big file there is U2WIN.exe which is 380MB. I won't download it and try it myself, so i don't know what that is or does.
But i find it strange that there's no videos of this. I would think that a lot of people would try this and post some videos on YouTube. But nope, no videos whatsoever.
LordManhattan said:
The only big file there is U2WIN.exe which is 380MB. I won't download it and try it myself, so i don't know what that is or does.
But i find it strange that there's no videos of this. I would think that a lot of people would try this and post some videos on YouTube. But nope, no videos whatsoever.
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i will download it tonite to see whuz that
therealphami said:
i will download it tonite to see whuz that
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Did you try it out?
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If I could figure out how to install it, I wouldn't mind trying!
iOS5 on Archos 70 would be awesome! =)
I thnk its real
It looks so promising... but then in his blog he said that this Krazy did it... mebbe itss real and i hope so cos iap crackee is onlly for iOS. And btw how do you even install it? So many files...
Soooo.
xjarylx said:
It looks so promising... but then in his blog he said that this Krazy did it... mebbe itss real and i hope so cos iap crackee is onlly for iOS. And btw how do you even install it? So many files...
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Did you find out? Theres no files on his google source anymore... I just revived a dead thread sorry

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