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Hello Everyone,
Does anyone know how or has anyone seen anything about doing this. Please point me in the right direction. I've been in the forum searching for a few days now.
What do you mean tightening?
Interesting you'd bring this up. My first Tilt's screen was solid, hardly any play at all. It became loose, and I returned it and got a refurb which was worse. I just returned that one (different issue) and it's solid. What he means (I think) is that the space between the two halves is more than it should be. I'm not sure of what causes this variance, but, it's annoying. Especially when you tap the screen because it gets all jostled around.
I'd imagine that you'd have to have a jeweler's screw driver or such, and get to some tiny screws somewhere.
Doug
I was assuming me means tightening the 'tilt' mechanism (brackets)??
MineralGray02K said:
I was assuming me means tightening the 'tilt' mechanism (brackets)??
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Yeah, I saw the tutorial for making it tilt farther.
dougrb said:
Interesting you'd bring this up. My first Tilt's screen was solid, hardly any play at all. It became loose, and I returned it and got a refurb which was worse. I just returned that one (different issue) and it's solid. What he means (I think) is that the space between the two halves is more than it should be. I'm not sure of what causes this variance, but, it's annoying. Especially when you tap the screen because it gets all jostled around.
I'd imagine that you'd have to have a jeweler's screw driver or such, and get to some tiny screws somewhere.
Doug
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I have had this one for quite a while, would that matter.
Is there a way to tighten the tilting mechanism on the kaiser if or when it loosens up a bit?
I've done a quick google but found nothing.
dougrb said:
Interesting you'd bring this up. My first Tilt's screen was solid, hardly any play at all. It became loose, and I returned it and got a refurb which was worse. I just returned that one (different issue) and it's solid. What he means (I think) is that the space between the two halves is more than it should be. I'm not sure of what causes this variance, but, it's annoying. Especially when you tap the screen because it gets all jostled around.
I'd imagine that you'd have to have a jeweler's screw driver or such, and get to some tiny screws somewhere.
Doug
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mine is getting that way. it's not bad, yet. but it's getting that way
I think I might give it a shot at figuring it out. I saw a modification to make tilt straight so somewhere in there may be th ething to make a little more stiff.
I'd venture a guess and say that for those who's screens have become more and more loose over time, it would be a screw to tighten. (or a few) BTW, the new one I got today is tight as the abs of steel girl's butt...
I have a similar issue and I need soe guidance. My screen is "shifting". The two halves are not matching up evenly any longer. There is about a 1/16" overhang of the top half and the bottom half when the phone is closed.
Any help to loosen and then shift the top half so it is equal to the bottom would be appreciated.
I had this problem, too, and fixed it myself. Here's the thread where I talk about it. There's a little rubber bumper at the end of each slider track and mine were malformed, so I added some layers of plastic to make them thicker. Check out the pics in this thread to see where the bumpers are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346104
maxh said:
I had this problem, too, and fixed it myself. Here's the thread where I talk about it. There's a little rubber bumper at the end of each slider track and mine were malformed, so I added some layers of plastic to make them thicker. Check out the pics in this thread to see where the bumpers are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346104
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Thank you. I appreciate the direction. I'll be sure to check that out today.
That might sound like a dumb question, but I could swear that's what happened to me. I was at my friend's Fourth of July party last night, and the screen on my Kaiser broke. But the thing is I have absolutely no idea how it happened, because it was in my pocket and I was standing. One minute it was fine, and the next minute I took it out of my pocket to find that the screen was destroyed. The only thing I can think of is that I was playing pool at the time, and maybe I leaned against the table, but I don't even remember doing that. And I know for a fact that I didn't bump hard into anything. This is just so mind-boggling to me.
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That might sound like a dumb question, but I could swear that's what happened to me. I was at my friend's Fourth of July party last night, and the screen on my Kaiser broke. But the thing is I have absolutely no idea how it happened, because it was in my pocket and I was standing. One minute it was fine, and the next minute I took it out of my pocket to find that the screen was destroyed. The only thing I can think of is that I was playing pool at the time, and maybe I leaned against the table, but I don't even remember doing that. And I know for a fact that I didn't bump hard into anything. This is just so mind-boggling to me.
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i know alot of people walk around with their screen oriented in a way that the screen faces the environment. I personally keep all my phones and devices with screen facing my leg/body.
perhaps you walked into something like a truck tailgate or the corner of a desk or table?
frostedglcok said:
i know alot of people walk around with their screen oriented in a way that the screen faces the environment. I personally keep all my phones and devices with screen facing my leg/body.
perhaps you walked into something like a truck tailgate or the corner of a desk or table?
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That's what I was thinking the most likely scenario is, but I just don't remember that happening. I was just wondering if a crystal could have burst or something strange like that, but who knows, maybe I did bump into something and somehow didn't notice it.
The touch screen is very easy to destroy. I broke mine once about 6 months ago and it was not fun spending an hour taking it apart to replace the screen with a new one. By the way, good luck finding torx wrenches small enough for the inner screws, I had to use a 1.25 mm flathead screwdriver and rig it into the screws to undo them.
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The touch screen is very easy to destroy. I broke mine once about 6 months ago and it was not fun spending an hour taking it apart to replace the screen with a new one. By the way, good luck finding torx wrenches small enough for the inner screws, I had to use a 1.25 mm flathead screwdriver and rig it into the screws to undo them.
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Where did you find those wrenches then? And, more importantly, where the hell did you find a replacement touch screen?
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Where did you find those wrenches then? And, more importantly, where the hell did you find a replacement touch screen?
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i believe you can find the replacement screens on ebay or cnn.cn . the torx wrenches can be found like screw drivers except they look like star heads.
looks like this
i have a similar set like this from home depot
screen w/ tools included ...
this is what I used.
-Guy
GuyIncognito said:
this is what I used.
-Guy
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wow, nice find!
So how hard is it to replace a screen for someone who's never done it before? And how much is $50 compared to how much you spent frosted?
check the wiki's for the instructions. should have a manual to take the kaiser apart.
i've never done it myself. i've just heard from my friend that he bought his on ebay for $100 a year ago. the deal guy posted looked good cuz it includes tools.
This is the screen I bought although it was regular price, $39.99 but on sale now for 29.99 with both torx wrenchs, and pry tools, although you still need a philips screen driver, any glasses screw driver will work for the philips driver. Pretty fast shipping also, I used the slowest one, low on money, and it came within a few days.
YouTube Video For changing screen.
I have replace my display today and works fine 50Usd. Change the display is easy look the istruction and do it very slow and calm....no coffee
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser/
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
Good lucky
is this housing http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260453968402&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123 a FURTHER rip-off in quality as the OEM found here http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-SONY-ERICSS...ries?hash=item2ea6dd8d1e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
i want to buy a new housing but i don't wanna buy one with less quality than the original
what are your thoughts on the pics there?
Judging by the pics both fascias seem identical. Although don't know why this big pricing difference. Maybe the first auction is for a replica housing? Don't have large pics as the second auction so we can tell for sure.
Also, at CNN http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-xperia-c-28_638.html the housings are pricey. For me go for the second auction or buy from CNN, you will be 100% sure that the housing is the OEM.
yeah i was looking at the $24.00 on ebay too... someone should buy it and tell me how it is
i think im gonna let this pass and sell my x1 as it is, im thinking of leaning towards the touch diamond 2 i will miss my keyboard but what the heck
Yo!
I ordered the $24.00 last week... When I receive the housing parts, I will take pictures and spread the message....
Fingers crossed......
Damn the cracks....Its a pity to sacrifice a gd device just now that some gd new things are coming....senseUI....Leo...sure it'll come for d2 too.....but no KeyBoard there.....I have ur very same problem...but I'll try the case !!
Received the housings yesterday.
They're certainly not OEM (maybe the backcover is, the rest not). The outside looks quite nice finished, the set is quite complete (with some tools for the fitting). From the two sets I ordered, one has a large gluestain on the top part of the housing (below the LCD). This gluestain damaged the paint. So I decided to start transferring the phone in the other housing.
After dissecting the phone I started with the assembly of the screen part. The speaker fitted not quite nice, so took some feddling to get mounted. At last it fitted (the print on top of the speaker fitted just). Closing the top part of the housing was a mess. The snap-locks didn't snap (partly) and on one side the housing did not flush fit. The (original) screws did not fit in the thread bushings.... With some fiddling I sort of managed to fit them. Then on with the bottom part. The new chrome buttons do not fit in the new chrome housing part.......
This is were I give up for yesterday. I think I'm going to rebuild the old housing en give up on the new one....
So.....
Decide for yourself if it's worth the trouble.... The housing looks quit neat (not as good as OEM though) but the fitment process is quite troublesome. Delivery was fast and the package is complete (including self-adhesive rubber for screen and speaker fitment). I will get in touch with the guy from Ebay with my findings.... Maybe I'm doing something wrong....
Will post some pictures tomorrow or something....
thnx ur comments were of gr8 benefit to me.....will be gladly w8ing for the pics !
thnx, ur comment were of gr8 benefit to me.....will be gladly w8ing for the pics !
thnx dude, im waiting on mine to be delivered,
looking forward for more reactions...
@Fliptil
From a scale from 0-10, how hard was it to do?
Before starting myself, I want to know if i'm capable of doing this.
To be honest, I know how to fix stuff, but don't know if I can do this trick..
Thanks for sharing anyway
Does anybody know, where i can buy a non branded battery cover for my sliver x1?
It is branded with T-Mobile, but i would like to have it blank or non-branded.
An original one is 25 € in ebay Germany. That's too much. So a cheap one would be fine.
Thanks in advice for all tips!
Best regards
Jog
ebay dude, i purchased one 2 weeks ago for about 10 GBP
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170363212269
OK guys....
I managed to revive the Xperia tonight.... It has become a hybrid with the metal (original) front and black backside. The middle part is also left original. So the only part I ended up exchanging has been the back cover.
First of all; kudo's to HTC for making the Xperia somewhat sturdy (at least the inside is...). The amount of mechanical havoc tha has been put through the innards of the phone are substantial... And still everything functions!!
After the initial assembly attempt a few weeks ago, I was sure that I had wrecked my phone trying to assemble it with the new housing. Some parts did not fit really well, and the (original) screws did not quite fit the (new) threaded bushings. Halfway through the assembly process I ran into the new chrome buttons not fitting in the new chrome middle part and I gave up on assembly for the time being. After recharging myself for a couple of weeks I forced myself to take up the task of finishing the assembly of the phone tonight...
First I had to disassemble the phone (I was halfway assembling it...) again. I decided to use the original front (had some scratch damage and a very small crack) to surpass the not-fitting thread bushings in the new part. This was a problem... One of the screws had settled in the not-fitting thread bushing and decided to not unscrew, but turn the bushing in the plastic instead. After trying careful and not damaging anything for some time I decided it was time for the hobby knife and screwdriver (as crowbar...). The new front cover did not survive this operation. The screw and the innards of the phone did however!! Reassembly using the old front cover was quite easy, as was reassembly of the back using the original middle part. In the new back part was the thread bushing missing for fixation of the speaker... I used the not-fitting bushing from the front cover as bushing for the speaker fixation. Off course after I made the bushing fitting by forcing the screw in the bushing using a sturdy screwdriver and a set of pliers. This bushing was hammered (carefully...) into the location where the bushing should have been.... This sort of worked. The new back cover does not fit as neat into the original middle part as the original back cover, but it did fit (with some force). The plastic lip that fixes the SIM card was a bit to long, so I had to cut of 0,5mm to make it fit the SIM card. And last but not least only one of the two new battery covers was able to get a grip on the phone...
Then came the thrilling moment to switch on the phone.... Everything worked as if nothing had happened!! So end good all good; I have a phone that looks quite neat (part brushed metal - part black) and functions.
If it was worth the hassle... I doubt it... When you've got a phone that is in pieces and you want spare parts to repair it (as cheap as possible and you like some hobbying) then go ahead and buy this housing. If you want a phone that looks as good as new (and you don't want to risk a heart attack or nervous break down) then I guess you're better off leaving this housing as it is.... For a phone that's worth a few hundred bucks I think this housing is not OK. For a scrapheap phone that needs revitalisation for a small amount of money than it's OK.... If I had to do it all again I think I would have gone for an OEM housing.... After all, I'm happy that my phone functions again so I can leave the TYTN at home. I was to stubborn to buy another housing...
This has become quite a story, hope it will be of any help to somebody. Now I must see if I can post some images....
Grreetz,
Ronald
Some pictures.... try if it works....
Hmm i've dropped my poor x1 on the concrete sidewalk as i got out of my car.
Amazingly it must be good quality because there are a only a couple of scratches on the front and some damage on the rubber around where the
stylus is, but otherwise everything works and is functional.
What this experience did, was got me lookin for spare parts in case I'd
ever need them. As a result I ordered from the same person on eBay 2 days ago
and I just now found this post. Needless to say, I'm damn scared that I've
wasted the money. You tried to fit the black parts on a silver X1, and mine is black,
so I'm crossing my fingers that for some unknown odd fantastical reason, it fits better on the black version. Also may ask whether your model is an x1i or x1a?
I'm guessing b/c its silver its an x1i but u can nvr be to sure. As for me, mine is
a black x1a. I'll post back if i have any updates.
Hi Nick.
I've got a X1i, as you had already guessed.... The mixing of the parts is also a bit of a risk.... The chrome middle part (original) has suffered some damages during my disassembly actions to start with... And has developed some new cracks in the use as a hybrid. Maybe I've overtightened some screws, or maybe the bottom part does not fit well enough so it develops to much tension I don't know...
I've decided to use the X1 till it dies, and to buy something else (no slide keyboard) a little bit more sturdy when it does. I am not going to do any repairwork on it. The design is simply flawed, I have had it repaired at SE once, when it came back it was broken again within two months. These stories can be found al over the internet, so I am not going to repair it again (just to get it broken again). I am not careful enough for a phone like this (however, my colleague also has a X1 that's broken and he is very careful...) I guess.
Just my two cents.
thanks fliptil I'll keep those things in mind.
Before i dropped my x1 for the first time. There was some kind of defect in the silver middle part. At first it was a slight crack so i thought nothing of it, until a piece fell right out of it. Until now i've never needed to go through the process
of getting something fixed and was my experience painful. I got mine through a carrier (Rogers) so I called them on the phone. I was on hold forever, and when I finally got through they told me I had to go to a rogers store to have someone
personally take a look at it.
I got to the store, got on their phone, and was on hold for 20 minutes. When I got through they told me they would connect me to a specific department.
Another 20 minute wait.
I got through and then gave the phone to a rogers employee there. He confirmed that it should be a defect as there were no signs of dropping it and then HE waited 20 minutes while the guy on the line called sony.
I waited all that time to find out that I cannot get it replaced through my carrier but had to go through sony themselves.
I looked up some stories of experiences with SE's services and found that most (if not all) of the time they replace your x1 with a refurbished one, and I wasn't about to trade a perfectly brand new one with a minor ding in it, for
one that could be potentially scratched up and badly treated.
Now that I've dropped it though I fear that whether the defect gets worse or not I cannot get Sony's warranty on it. However, after what you've just told me I don't think I want to. Here's to hoping that i won't have to do x1
surgery anytime soon...
I just have a quick question to see if anyone else has encountered this issue and if so whether or not B&N fixed it. My NC has just recently had the back coming off right in the corner by volume buttons. It hasn't been dropped nor have I tried to open it. Also it creaks on the middle of the front bezel on the right side. Any ideas if B&N would take care of it under the 12 year manufacturers warranty?
Not sure on what B&N will do. From what I've read, it really boils down to the rep you get on the phone and their 'ability' to help you. If you get someone that simply follows a script... good luck.
As to the quality of the build, my model wasn't very solid from the start. As soon as I held it to read on it for the first time, I felt the back plate clicking and somewhat loose. Not very impressed but as of now, there's been no separation issues.
I had the exact same problem. There was creaking to the left of the "n" button. It almost seems like some of their hardware doesn't fit properly inside the case. Long story short, they exchanged it. Call 'em up. If they tell you to take it into a store don't accept that. I tried, and the guy at the store told me to call. I eventually got a new one.
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I had the exact same problem. There was creaking to the left of the "n" button. It almost seems like some of their hardware doesn't fit properly inside the case. Long story short, they exchanged it. Call 'em up. If they tell you to take it into a store don't accept that. I tried, and the guy at the store told me to call. I eventually got a new one.
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Or get the name and agent number of the person on the phone who told you to go to the store and when the store says no you can say "Well, so-and-so from 1-800-THE BOOK whose agent ID is blah-blah said to bring it to the store. So first, exchange my Nook and second contact whoever runs your help line and deal with this type of problem with them."
Also, get the managers name as well. People generally don't give you the run around if you get their names...
They definitely do read from a script. The rep had to go check with a supervisor to see if it is covered. Waiting on a reply. I definitely am no accepting no as an answer.
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Or get the name and agent number of the person on the phone who told you to go to the store and when the store says no you can say "Well, so-and-so from 1-800-THE BOOK whose agent ID is blah-blah said to bring it to the store. So first, exchange my Nook and second contact whoever runs your help line and deal with this type of problem with them."
Also, get the managers name as well. People generally don't give you the run around if you get their names...
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I will have to exactly this. I was getting the run around from the rep on the phone, and she was definitely reading from a script. She was trying to make it seem as if I had someway caused the backing to come off and so it isnt covered. I told her straight up that the problem is that the glue isnt holding it in place and that the problem is at the juncture of the backing and the volume keys, and that since it is the glue that is the problem it should be covered by the manufacturers warranty. SO after 20 minutes of arguing, I am off to my local store to talk to them with the name and ID number of the phone rep. I am getting this fixed one way or another.
I've noticed the same issue since new, but nothing major. I keep my nook in a leather case so i'm only really touching the screen when using it.
(In general, not to OP since don't think he's under 14-day policy anymore)
If you just got your nook, you might want to consider exchanging --- in the week I had my first one, I noticed creakiness and slight flexing all around the right side from when I first opened it, and it only got worse -- started getting little clicks/pops when I shifted my grip on that side and I noticed the white backlight came through a small part of that side, so it looks like it was probably going to end up unhinged. I'm pretty gentle with my electronics and I had it in an Industriell case since day 1, and it still got worse.
The 2nd one I just got is significantly better built, no creaking at all and the bevel is firm and solid (no flex) everywhere. I know it's only $250 but better to avoid future repair hassles and get a good one now.
I was definitely over the 14 day policy as The nook was a Christmas gift from the wife. I ended up going to the store and had them inspect it to make sure that it was definitely a manufacturer issue. The local rep then proceeded to call and try to get it done for me. Now mind you, the stores have an entirely different number to call about Nook Color returns/exchanges. They don't actually deal with the same tech support we do. They were then giving her the run around even with her manager right next to her telling them it is a warranty issue, that it definitely looks like an adhesion issue, no water damage, no drop damage etc. Finally the rep gave up and just did an exchange anyways and said to screw the corporate that once it got sent back it would never be looked at anyways. And this is why i love my local B&N store.
Awesome! Congrats on getting it exchanged The new one, have you noticed if the bevel is darker than your old one? Mine is very noticeably darker, I compare it to the grey of the B&N Industriell case and my old Nook used to be lighter than the case, this new one is several shades darker (almost black). Wonder if they switched materials/updated design somewhere down the line?
Interesting reading, I got my NC back in March, haven't noticed any of these problems. Maybe it was just a bad batch or something. Good luck with getting your NC's exchanged.
Had the same issue, disassembled the nook according to these instructions in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858697
(Note the switch and battery connectors disconnect by pulling them perpendicularly from the board)
Then used Loctite silicone gasket sealant along the edges where the two shell halves meet, between the entire edge of the back cover where it mates, as well as between the screen frame and metal frame. You'll need something to pry with and T5 screw driver. Took 30 minutes
Now feels as sturdy as an iPad, no squeaks or creaks, and in theory I should still be able to pull it apart again if needed.
Hope this helps someone.
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I just have a quick question to see if anyone else has encountered this issue and if so whether or not B&N fixed it. My NC has just recently had the back coming off right in the corner by volume buttons. It hasn't been dropped nor have I tried to open it. Also it creaks on the middle of the front bezel on the right side. Any ideas if B&N would take care of it under the 12 year manufacturers warranty?
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The back cover on mine is loose in the same area...but its just fractions of an 1/8".
I don't know if the heat(what heat?) expanded the metal there, but it wasn't 'loose' when I first bought it.
I'm not too concerned, I bought a cheap silicon glove for it and it has not been that noticeable.
It does look a bit darker. I have also noticed that it looks like the bezel is recessed more than on my previous one. This one just feels a lot sturdier than my first one.
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Had the same issue, disassembled the nook according to these instructions in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858697
(Note the switch and battery connectors disconnect by pulling them perpendicularly from the board)
Then used Loctite silicone gasket sealant along the edges where the two shell halves meet, between the entire edge of the back cover where it mates, as well as between the screen frame and metal frame. You'll need something to pry with and T5 screw driver. Took 30 minutes
Now feels as sturdy as an iPad, no squeaks or creaks, and in theory I should still be able to pull it apart again if needed.
Hope this helps someone.
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Sounds really interesting.
Did you also remove the bezel ?
Thanks
I have had my nook color sine april of this year. Its been rock solid with none of the issues described in this thread. Just thought I would add in my own observations.
Yes, I already broke my phone. Go ahead, grin and chuckle..now that you've gotten it out of your system, anyone want to offer a little guidance? Never disassembled a newer cellphone before. New glass is ordered and has been shipped, just waiting for it to arrive. I'm hoping the process is fairly simple. I do have a specialized set of screwdrivers with all the hard-to-find bits, so that's not a problem ..it even has the tiny blackberry bit.. but from what I can see HTC uses standard micro Philips screws. Yay for standard formats!
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If this phone is anything like hd2 you're gunna want the flat pry tools they sell (search hd2 screen replacement tools). Their not needed but a nice handy thingy to have, other wise you might crack your LCD from flexing it too much.
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I wont grin and chuckle too much, I broke my Atrix after 4 days.
The Vivid screen seems very fragile. 2 of my coworkers have broken theirs within a few weeks of having them. Small drops from waist distance. Its too bad because I have seen the current Samsung models dropped from 6 feet face first and survive
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Yeah, I've cracked mine as well. If you google HTC raider teardown on YouTube.. There's a vid.... Butttt, it's not in English and it's a teardown not a screen replacement tutorial.
It seems as thought HTC has been using reeeeally thin glass in their devices.
Whered you get the glass? It'd be very thoughtful of you to do a tutorial as you do it. I really want to replacement mine but if you remove one on the screws by the battery it voids your warranty
Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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How much is it for them to fix it?
I have no idea. Shoot them an email (not Support Inquiry, youre gonna wanna send it to Repair Inquiry) and they should be able to tell you. Make sure you fill out the S/N box out now, or their just gonna send you an email back asking for it.
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I have no idea. Shoot them an email (not Support Inquiry, youre gonna wanna send it to Repair Inquiry) and they should be able to tell you. Make sure you fill out the S/N box out now, or their just gonna send you an email back asking for it.
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I'll do that right now. Thanks alot
(sorry to hijack the thread lol)
They use a double sided tape that hopefully comes with your replacement screen , I tried to replace a water damaged screen and it really wasn't a fun process
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It didn't fall very far..
Yeah when mine fell I had it in a shirt pocket, bent over to pick something up and it slid out, fell about a foot and a half..directly onto the search button corner on ceramic tile. Crunch. I ordered a new panel from tmart.com .. I got a confirmation email back on the 4th saying its been shipped via usps.. should be here soon. I hope it comes with everything I need - cost me about $50.00 with the shipping and everything. I paid the extra 3 bucks for insurance lol..
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Yeah when mine fell I had it in a shirt pocket, bent over to pick something up and it slid out, fell about a foot and a half..directly onto the search button corner on ceramic tile. Crunch. I ordered a new panel from tmart.com .. I got a confirmation email back on the 4th saying its been shipped via usps.. should be here soon. I hope it comes with everything I need - cost me about $50.00 with the shipping and everything. I paid the extra 3 bucks for insurance lol..
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So, how was the installation process? And did it come with the adhesive? I'm going to buy it from that site as well
And then it was fixed..! FTW!
Ok sorry for the delay getting back to you guys.. been frantically waiting for the screen to clear US customs (ugh) and arrive, which it finally did today. I was able to get my hands on it at about 3 this afternoon, but I wasn't able to actually look at it until about an hour ago..
So.. I open the package, big grin on my face..and the first thing I notice is that the glass is AT&T branded. Funny, considering I'm in Canada and using Rogers..but hey a digitizer by any other name...and all that. So! I open the bag that my "tools" came in.. There are 2 blue plastic tools, one a prying tool and one looked a lot like a guitar pick. Cool. There are also 2 screwdrivers included, and I'm momentarily excited, until I realize they're just tiny torqx bits. The Raider uses TINY philips head screws, so those were useless. I put them into my tiny tool set..for later consideration.
Back to the screen. Looks like it the real deal, so I watch half of the teardown vid on youtube.. As mentioned in an earlier post it isn't an english-language vid so aside from seeing the locations of the screws and the methods of levering off the internal components, there's no exchange of information going on. I would like to mention however that the video kind of glazes over the locations and removal processes for some sensitive connections, so having only experienced laptop repairs personally.. I was in fairly uncomfortable and unfamiliar territory - but I was determined.
I tried several ways at getting the phone down to its base components, and finally succeeded in locating the panel's ribbon connector interface on one of the phone's circuit boards. I had to remove the back of the phone, pull the batt, sim and sd, and pull the 4 main screws that lock the housing down onto the phone.. From there its a matter of levering off the black plastic shell and whats underneath is a whole lot of tech in a very tight space. There were 3 or 4 wires I had to disconnect, about 15 tiny screws in 3 different lengths, and then when all was said and done I had to pry the busted panel off using the supplied blue lever tool (pretty handy, actually.) and then lift the lcd away from the metal housing enough to slide the old connector out and the new one through.. This was a very tricky process - I drink way too much coffee to hold completely steady for long..lol.. Finally got it all through, but by this time I had smudged the inside of both glass surfaces pretty badly and it took some serious mechanical dexterity to hold the surfaces and wipe them down without wrecking any of the flapping, loose circuit boards, screens, etc.. it was a frightening experience.. I won't lie.. I definitely feared the worst possible outcome given my limited experience.
So.. the panel's ribbon cable is inserted, the white clip back down securing it.. I manage after several attempts to remember how to put the puzzle all back together, and after about 45 minutes of messing with it I had a visually complete phone again. I hit power, and miracle of miracles the HTC logo flashes on the screen.. I'm hopeful..
The phone boots up, looks great (aside from a few smudges I missed on the inside..grr) so I start touching the screen and here's where we have the first problem..lol.. its recognizing that I'm touching the screen..but not really accurately.. it seems to be that there are dead areas.. So now I'm thinking I broke something..lol..
Smoke break.
Took it all apart again, forgot to clean the smudges, removed and re-seated all the connections, and about 15 minutes later I had it back together again. I booted it up and waited.
Success!! It sees where I'm touching accurately now - I think the ribbon must have moved while I was putting it back together, I was shifting things a lot as I was trying to figure it all out, so I must have stressed the cable enough to move it slightly in the slot.. that, or I didn't have it all the way in / straight the first time I did it. Either way, it works fine now. I was successful on the 2nd attempt, and now the only difference is that this glass feels..rougher? less smooth? not sure how to describe it.. it feels different, anyway.. and the at&t logo of course. Aside from that, you'd never know it was in pieces an hour ago..lol.
Would I do this again? ..I hope I don't have to. Its not impossible, but man, if you're going to try this BE SUPER CAREFUL!! lol..
edit: and no - it didn't come with the double sided tape, but it seems to be staying without having to replace it.. it wasn't too hard to remove it from the panel, but getting it back on straight took some finesse.. lol.. it comes apart easier now when you're tryingn to disassemble it..but seems to be holding together fine on its own.
travisxcore said:
Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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Corning makes the glass on the Raider/Vivid?
I would suspect it to be more sturdy if its corning, my SGS has been without a screen protector and still does not have any scratches. Yes i know SGS is Gorilla Glass and this is not but i would think it would be stronger.
@ bproulx
You should take it apart again and make a tutorial . I hope i never have to go though what you did. Knock on wood.
lol..might take it apart again..
So..I have smudges on the inside of the glass. Stupid sweaty fingers. Now I'm tempted to pull it apart again ..but not far enough to make a tutorial lol.. besides.. I'm glad I didn't have a camera on me - you guys woulda had a good laugh at me breaking into a sweat trying to pry loose the glass panel the first time..lol. I know it was already broken but (a) I was trying not to cut myself on it and (b) I was also trying not to break the lcd underneath. Which I believe also has smudges on it. Oi.. I guess I'll have to get in there and clean it. Probably not tonight tho. I'm just glad the thing still works - I was scared I was going to bust something. There are a LOT of little things in there. For the record the CPU looks neat. Its smaller than a sim card, a little bigger than a micro sd. Pretty impressive.
bproulx said:
So..I have smudges on the inside of the glass. Stupid sweaty fingers. Now I'm tempted to pull it apart again ..but not far enough to make a tutorial lol.. besides.. I'm glad I didn't have a camera on me - you guys woulda had a good laugh at me breaking into a sweat trying to pry loose the glass panel the first time..lol. I know it was already broken but (a) I was trying not to cut myself on it and (b) I was also trying not to break the lcd underneath. Which I believe also has smudges on it. Oi.. I guess I'll have to get in there and clean it. Probably not tonight tho. I'm just glad the thing still works - I was scared I was going to bust something. There are a LOT of little things in there. For the record the CPU looks neat. Its smaller than a sim card, a little bigger than a micro sd. Pretty impressive.
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I've taken apart laptops (MacBooks at all) and successfully reassembled them so I think I'm up to the job. I'm reaaaally thankful that it says AT&T at the top and not HTC like the pic shows (since I'm on att).. Another question though, did you successfully get the "void" plastic piece back over the screw? Because, I want to keep this phone as "under warranty" as possible
Getting better at taking it apart..lol..
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I've taken apart laptops (MacBooks at all) and successfully reassembled them so I think I'm up to the job. I'm reaaaally thankful that it says AT&T at the top and not HTC like the pic shows (since I'm on att).. Another question though, did you successfully get the "void" plastic piece back over the screw? Because, I want to keep this phone as "under warranty" as possible
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No, the little void sticker on mine was less like a sticker and more like... glue, with paint on it.. lol.. it just flaked apart when I tried to lift it.. but I wasn't concerned with preserving it. Maybe if u use an x-acto or something like that you can lift it intact..? Let me know how you do.
I started getting some random touch input glitches yesterday, and today they got worse.. then my son spilled hot coffee on me and I dropped my phone on the carpet where it of course popped apart..lol..and then when I booted it back up I had some *major* touch glitches.. it was seeing input higher up than the actual contact point, and just acting real buggy..the phone was lagging.. so I took it apart again, completely.. took my sweet time reassembling it this time - I even got out the micro-fibre cloth and cleaned all the glass, and voila.. this time - its like new. I can already tell its put together right this time, which tells me something wasn't quite right before - I'm guessing I didn't get the ribbon cable seated properly before.. there are a lot of tiny, offset contacts on the end of that little cable. Anyway, I guess the moral of the story is screw warranties, and the more times you disassemble your phone the better you get at it.. lol.. it wasn't anywhere near as intimidating this time around. Felt kinda easy, actually. I think I just psyched myself into thinking it would be hard to do the first time around.
I do miss my original glass tho.. I'm thinking about contacting HTC and ordering an oem panel lol.. this one feels.. grippy. The HTC one felt smooth as silk.. I dunno this one kinda feels more like window glass. Meh.. better than a broken ghetto phone. At least now I can whip it out in public without hanging my head in shame and peeking around to see who's looking at my ugly screen. I never even tried HTC directly..I just googled the part and went with the one with good reviews..
OMFG...FML..
Sooo.. I got angry at my Raider today.. started doing the weird touch input glitches again after a battery pull, got frustrated and slammed my phone down on the table in anger...and.... smash. Brand new panel is now ten times as shattered as the old one was. AND...now the phone won't even light up. AND..it looks like I may have cracked the actual LCD this time.. just a small crack at the very bottom - wouldn't even be visible with the shell on the phone.. but.. I'm not very optimistic. I get absolutely nothing on my screen when I boot the phone, all I get is one haptic "bump" and thats it. Nada.
Sooo... looks like I need a new phone. Again.
Lame.
There goes $600.00
....sigh.
Anyone wanna donate an old android device to a guy who's now really really sad and has no phone? LOL.. why did I give away my legend????
Not giving up my phone!! LOL!
Ok so I decided to try my luck at replacing the LCD as well as the busted digitizer that I just re-broke..lol.. back to tmart, and ordered both. I really wish I could have found the whole assembly pre-built, but the only company I found selling both as a single unit had a minimum order of 5 pcs. Out of my price range for repairs, although with my track record maybe it wouldn't have been a bad idea? lol.. anyway, I just bought both parts from tmart and am still waiting for one of them to show up. The good news is I was able to replace the LCD already. It really is just held in there with tape. Like.. there's nothing really holding it all together..you'd think with all those screws and tabs they could have come up with a better way?? Ah well. I have a display again, but until I can get the digitizer and install it I'm without input.. so I can just watch the phone boot and then sit on my lock screen. Or boot into recovery mode and use the vol and power buttons to mess about.. But why..lol. I'll just wait.
I'm just happy that nothing else seems to be affected. I had my alarm going off still with no screen, so that tipped me off that everything else should still be ok. I won't know for 100% certain til I complete the repair, but it looks promising. I picked up a used HTC Magic (ugh) from kijiji for $80 and it came with 3 batteries, 3 chargers, 3 usb cables, 3 leather cases, and a bunch of other crap in threes. Just so I'm not completely without a phone in the meantime. Overall not bad for $80 but man is this phone slow. I installed a custom rom **THANKS XDA!!** on it and it improved the performance and look of the OS a little, but it lags a lot even overclocked when just typing a text.. I can't wait to get my phone back!!
Aside from the screens, this phone is pretty tough. I slammed that sucker down pretty hard that day.. Cmon HTC - why didn't you give us gorilla glass on a $600 LTE phone!?!?!?!? I wish I could find an aftermarket panel that was made from gorilla glass. That would totally rock!
Yeah, i really wish they would've put gorilla glass on it. I used to have the atrix and ive dropped it on tile floor at least 3 times... Nothing. Keys in the same pocket as phone.. No scratches at all.
I didn't want to try my luck, so I just got a replacement vivid