Problems with WiFi access on Helmi - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

I SIM unlocked to use T-Mobile with my SX66 to do a comparison with my Wizard to see how this BA performs: I cant figure out if this is an older unit (05 versus 06??) or a newer one (400 MHz rather than 190 and a 2 megaixel camera on the camera units rather than a 1.3???) and installed Helmi, which has lots of features I don't need but which seems to be the only WM6 ROM around for this unit (?).
Installation went fine and without a hitch but now on boot up, I don't get a splash screen of whatever type: I get the initial bootloader screen, which is curious! But seems to be correct. However on that screen on soft reset, it shows the OS correctly but with a R 1.02.10 and a G of 1337.35. What is unusual is that on hard reset it shows both these settings as empty. Only on soft reset does it show the radio etc.
Slightly more worryingly (as I would like to test out VoIP on this unit) this BA wont connect to the Internet. WLAN is off by default and turning it on just flashes up a list of local WiFi LANs: It wont actually connect to any of them. it does take you through the steps and asks all the seemingly obvious questions (Is this the Internet or a work VPN? WHY SHOULD YOU CARE??) and at the end of the process, it just doesn't connect. Even more annoyingly, when it doesnt connect, it turns WLAN off again, so you don't really know when it did this (or, of course, why). It takes you through all the steps and then gives you the Configure Wireless Networks screen which shows all local networks which you KNOW to be available as "unavailable".
Is this a known problem with Helmi or does anyone recognise what I am doing wrong please?

I had the same problem with my BLUEANGEL (MDA III). The Upgrade to WM6 was totally ok. Everything is working, except the WLAN. Did you tried this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343862

No, it just keeps disconnecting (things getting worse)
player_no1 said:
I had the same problem with my BLUEANGEL (MDA III). The Upgrade to WM6 was totally ok. Everything is working, except the WLAN. Did you tried this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343862
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The WLAN started trying to connect as I describe but now just doesn't even turn on in Comm Mgr.
Also tried upgrading to xplode but BA loses communication during the upgrade process. (Attempted to ask Xplode himself on that thread and will see if he has any idea)

i donno if this helps but wad i did was i turned on bluetooth. thn i turned on wifi.
it detected my wifi router entered my wep key thn logged on to internet. thn i switched off my bluetooth. i tried surfing and was ok.
i switched off wifi waited awhile thn turn on wifi.. it works flawlessly..for now
edit: u gotta use comms manager

badass7 said:
i donno if this helps but wad i did was i turned on bluetooth. thn i turned on wifi.
it detected my wifi router entered my wep key thn logged on to internet. thn i switched off my bluetooth. i tried surfing and was ok.
i switched off wifi waited awhile thn turn on wifi.. it works flawlessly..for now
edit: u gotta use comms manager
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Yes, although bluetooth was already working, this seems to do something: I dont know what it is but it appears to be some combination of turning off and turning on again all sorts of things in CommMgr. Now it is working.
I wonder how long it will continue to work? It certainly doesnt let me open VoIP settings while connected. I still get a fatal exception when I try to do so and even though I have inputted all my VoIP settings, VoIP still doesnt work.
Still trying to figure out whether Xplode knows what is causing my failure to communicate WHILE upgrading from Helmi to Xplode.

licensedtoquill said:
Yes, although bluetooth was already working, this seems to do something: I dont know what it is but it appears to be some combination of turning off and turning on again all sorts of things in CommMgr. Now it is working.
I wonder how long it will continue to work? It certainly doesnt let me open VoIP settings while connected. I still get a fatal exception when I try to do so and even though I have inputted all my VoIP settings, VoIP still doesnt work.
Still trying to figure out whether Xplode knows what is causing my failure to communicate WHILE upgrading from Helmi to Xplode.
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i am a noobie so i don't understand the term VoIP yet as i haven't read thru all FAQs and technical stuff lol pardon my noobness haha
anyway i wanted to update that today very early in morning when i tried using
wifi again the normal way but could not so i followed the steps again... and when it was working i pushed the reset button and till now which is abt 12hrs later still works ok ... i do not noe if its by chance or there is no way it shld work by my steps but it works for me and i hope it works for u too
btw i am using helmi's rom if it helps
cheers

hemi rom wifi not working
wifi not working i've tried it to turn on and turn off but to no avail
licensedtoquill said:
Yes, although bluetooth was already working, this seems to do something: I dont know what it is but it appears to be some combination of turning off and turning on again all sorts of things in CommMgr. Now it is working.
I wonder how long it will continue to work? It certainly doesnt let me open VoIP settings while connected. I still get a fatal exception when I try to do so and even though I have inputted all my VoIP settings, VoIP still doesnt work.
Still trying to figure out whether Xplode knows what is causing my failure to communicate WHILE upgrading from Helmi to Xplode.
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I have made an interesting discovery about this flaky WiFi on the Blue Angel
pda2kstar said:
wifi not working i've tried it to turn on and turn off but to no avail
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Often when I try to connect using IE and it says it isn't connected, it IS. I often get the message that I cant connect with the usual reference to completely useless settings pages or an offer to dismiss and give up on the internet connection.
But if I ignore it, I find that I mysteriously AM connected.

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WIFI encryption dead?

I have a wiress router at home that i used with PDA2k. Surfing net over TKIP-PSK encrypted connection worked fine for many months.
One day, there was some problem connecting or it hung up (dont remember exactly), so i popped out battery and put it back in ... and since that day, i cannot make a TKIP-PSK connection with the phone to anything. If i set up router as OPEN point (no passwd), the f**king phone connects!
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
3. Hard reset phone
4. Reflashed phone with WM2003 and older radio rom.
5. Reflashed WM05
6. Reflashed Wm2003 and latest radio rom
7. Tried different router.
No results!
I live in apartment building and cant leave my router in the open. Other encryption modes supported by PDA2k dont work either.
I DONT GET IT!!! HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SH*T STOPPED WORKING? If some hardware chip died, WIFI wouldnt work at all! But it works for non-encrypted connections!!
Unbelievable sad story. Everything points for some hv failure, but I just don't believe it. Try some more routers.
Try reflashing to older radio ROM. It may help.......
starik said:
But it works for non-encrypted connections!!
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The crypto stuff is done on-board the wifi IIRC, so that's possible.
I once heard of people having problems on the phone when using the keyboard for the encyption key. The recommendation was to use the on-screen keyboard to ensure the key is entered correctly. Might be worth a try, but try it with the most basic encryption settings i.e. wep to keep things simple. Make sure you disable EAP in the phone settings.
The problem could be within the storage space within the Wifi hardware. It has it's own registers for the actual settings. If some were in nvram that maintained it's state, then corruption to these would be bad.
A last resort might be to take of the battery for a few days to completely drain the backup battery. If there are any volatile storage areas maintained by this that are not cleared during a hard reset, then a complete power down will reset them. One of the problems with this phone is that you cannot fully switch it off.
Take the last two paragraphs with a pinch of salt; I've never looked into the hardware on these phones in any great detail, so it's all guesswork.
ok , i'll try a full powerdown.
i have windows 2005.
just to confirm : i will only lose the RAMdisk with temp files? the rest of the stuff is in the flash?
Yes, that's correct.
well, i finally got around to draining the backup battery.
any kind of encryption/password authentication over WIFI no longer works.
time to buy a new pda phone.
starik said:
I have a wiress router at home that i used with PDA2k. Surfing net over TKIP-PSK encrypted connection worked fine for many months.
One day, there was some problem connecting or it hung up (dont remember exactly), so i popped out battery and put it back in ... and since that day, i cannot make a TKIP-PSK connection with the phone to anything. If i set up router as OPEN point (no passwd), the f**king phone connects!
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
3. Hard reset phone
4. Reflashed phone with WM2003 and older radio rom.
5. Reflashed WM05
6. Reflashed Wm2003 and latest radio rom
7. Tried different router.
No results!
I live in apartment building and cant leave my router in the open. Other encryption modes supported by PDA2k dont work either.
I DONT GET IT!!! HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SH*T STOPPED WORKING? If some hardware chip died, WIFI wouldnt work at all! But it works for non-encrypted connections!!
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I'm in the same boat with my SX66, the SD slot no longer appears to recognized memory (pny or sandisk). I re-flashed the ROM to factory default and still doesn't recognize memory modules.
How do you drain the backup battery? I haven't done this yet...
Mike
starik said:
well, i finally got around to draining the backup battery.
any kind of encryption/password authentication over WIFI no longer works.
time to buy a new pda phone.
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Did you ever try it with another router at all? Might be worth trying as I didn't notice you mentioning it.
starik said:
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
7. Tried different router.
No results!
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See above;P
Had the same problem with my set(wm5). Did not know why, could not log into my wep network. After hardreset , and leaving the phone alone for 10 mins, it was functional again . Thought i just voice out .

WiFi not working

After upgrading to WM5 wifi access points r deceted but does not connect, no error messages just, says connection ten after a while it says avaible and does not connect
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o come on guys 116 views but no replies?
What ROM are you using? Has this problem just started since upgrading to a new / diffrent ROM or has it suddenly appeared on a ROM you have been using for a while?
If it's suddenly happened on a ROM you have been using for a while try a hard reset if you can.
I have a Wi-Fi problem in Helmi BA WM2k5 AKU3.2 Beta (v.1.3.3 Beta), but the 1.3.2 Beta works fine so just went back to that version.
Well my ROM infomation is Below in Sig.
WiFi worked fine when i used the softwear which came witht eh phone but after upgrading to WM5 WiFi does not work
I upgraded to (see Below)
Try using this new ROM, it's a diffrent version to the one your using and I've had no problems with it. Make sure after you do the flash you do a hard reset - you'll have problems if not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276915
ty i will try
I have none of these problems with WiFi, I can connect without any problems. Now, actually using the link causes me the odd issue (it tries dialing GPRS anyway), but that's an entirely different thing altogether.
xiokai, revert back to WM2003 and check WIFI.
sorry to interput the post here, but can someone tell me how to connect to wifi? there is a wifi zone near me that i should be able to connect to but for some reason my phone wont do it, any one got any tips?
xiaokai said:
After upgrading to WM5 wifi access points r deceted but does not connect, no error messages just, says connection ten after a while it says avaible and does not connect
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O2 is your problem, they suck
millzmillzy said:
sorry to interput the post here, but can someone tell me how to connect to wifi? there is a wifi zone near me that i should be able to connect to but for some reason my phone wont do it, any one got any tips?
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If you have a recent WM5 ROM, there is sometimes an icon of a padlock in the network list next to the hotspot. This indicates that the connection is secure and you need the password.
There are other ways to secure a hotspot such as using a publicly accessing log-on network that bounces you onto a private one or only allows access once you've authenticated. These are less common though, mostly hotels/airports etc. If you see the network without a padlock and you still can't get a proper IP address and ping google (try vxUtil and vxIpConfig) it may be one of these more complicated ones.
You could ask the person who runs the hotspot! Be aware that using a hotspot without permission may be illegal where you live.
Hey guys, Internet Explorer doesn`t work correctly after the Rom has been loaded for some reason, so just try another browser. I had that WIFI issuse for some time not but since i got Opera mobile it isn`t a problem.
xiokai, have you checked your Wifi encryption settings? I just had the same symptoms on a Blue Angel (WM2003SE), a Wizard(WM5) and a friend's phone, and it turned out none of them could handle WPA2.
I'd enabled it on my network as it was supposed to be more secure, and found that when it was disabled (I reverted to WPA-PSK) my Wizard connected first time, perfectly. Haven't tried the Blue Angel yet, but that works fine at my folks' house.
Another thread about BA not connecting to WPA-PSK:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-257076.html
Thanks for the info and link uberdeity.
Does anyone know if there is anyone working on WPA2-PSK support for the BA, and/or if it is at all possible?

How can I fix my WiFi problem

I have not been able to turn on wifi reliably for ages now - It all started when I upgraded to WM5. Now (even if I downgrade to wm2003se) I cannot turn it on. I press the wifi on button, the cursor comes up but nothing happens), leave it for a couple of hours, and then press again - it will sometimes turn on. It then stays on for about 30 mins, and turns off (I have the wifi set to never turn off).
I cannot diagnose the problem - can you?
Any help GREATLY appreciated - feel free to ask for more details.
hardint0110
I have exactly the same problem with Xplode's WM5 Rom. My solution is to perform a soft reset and turn it on then which (mostly) works. I would love to find the answer to this one as it is annoying ...
If you're using the conn manager to turn on the wifi that probably won't work. Try going to wireless properties and turn on the wifi from there. It works for me.
hardingt0110 said:
I have not been able to turn on wifi reliably for ages now - It all started when I upgraded to WM5. Now (even if I downgrade to wm2003se) I cannot turn it on. I press the wifi on button, the cursor comes up but nothing happens), leave it for a couple of hours, and then press again - it will sometimes turn on. It then stays on for about 30 mins, and turns off (I have the wifi set to never turn off).
I cannot diagnose the problem - can you?
Any help GREATLY appreciated - feel free to ask for more details.
hardint0110
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have exactly the same problem
I've the same problem too, very annoying...
It's well documented in baniaczek's latest WM5 ROM. You all would've known if you took the time to read throughly.
Turn on WiFi: Do it only once after soft reset. This procedure will load WiFi driver into system drivers. Start Comm Manager. Select from menu: Settings/WLANsettings. Tap "Turn on WLAN". If there are any WiFi networks available - device will try to connect to. Provide proper parameters (network name, authentication, encryption, keys etc). Probably device would not connect. Go back to "Comm Manager". Turn WiFi off. Since that use only Comm Manager to turn WiFi on and off. There is easy way to recognize if it is required to load WiFi driver, or it is enough to turn on. Look at todays wireless plugin. If there is listed WiFi in any state - there is no need to load driver tapping "Turn on WLAN". Resolving this issue is not easy. If you are interested - read this: http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=194
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My problem is that there is no WiFi Off in the today screen.
I am going to try using this http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=195
i have a drifrent problem...i find a lan but can't connect?!...help?
also wm5
wuzy said:
It's well documented in baniaczek's latest WM5 ROM. You all would've known if you took the time to read throughly.
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Yes, I have tried this, but there is no WiFi in any state in my today screen. I have tried downloading the program from teksoftco.com, but it only works to turn bluetooth/phone on and off.
I cannot turn WiFi on and off by following baniaczek's tutorial. He says that "Resolving this problem is not easy", but does not go into it. Can you provide more info?
Cheers,
hardingt0110

Got to the bottom of Wifi problems... Yep, Definitely

Guys,
I don't know if this is actually a cure yet, but it seems to have worked on my first attempt.
First the background...
When I first got my Kaiser (UK Orange Tytn II) I was at work, I quickly enabled the wifi and all was well. When I got back home later that day I really struggled to get a connection to my access point at home. I connect to a Cisco aironet in both locations (I know there is a post about cisco extensions but I know that is not my problem as I can and have connected to both APs on at least one occasion with no problem).
After deleting wireless settings and a few soft resets I was able to connect at home. I managed to use that wifi connection all night without a problem. Getting back into the office the next day resulted in the same problems connecting to the office access point.
The AP is visible and is 'Available' but doesn't connect automatically. I tried to establish the connection manually, the phone shows the AP as 'Connecting' but shortly after goes back to 'Available'.
I've tried flashing different roms and radios but to no avail.
Last night I got to thinking that I generally connect to my AP, browse the web, sync mail etc, but I don't switch off the wifi when I am finished. I just let the phone go into standby as that shuts the wifi off anyway. So to try something different last night, I disabled wifi once I had finished.
This morning, when I got into the office, I enabled wifi and for the first time it connected immediately and I'm browsing on it just fine. This leads me to believe that there is a problem when the wifi is enabled and the phone is is standby mode for a considerable length of time and then is woken up in a totally different location.
I'll test again tonight by disabling the wifi before I leave the office and hopefully I'll get an instant connection when I get home.
Any thoughts?
I get the same thing for work and cannt connect even though it says available, and then connected.
Tried your approach but didnt work for me.
bluemamba said:
I get the same thing for work and cannt connect even though it says available, and then connected.
Tried your approach but didnt work for me.
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Of course that might be due to any number of factors. Have you ever been able to connect at your office?
i've had issues with my orange (uk) tytnII actually wanting to make a GPRS connection whilst connected to WiFi when i try and go online.
I connect at work using a program called Odyssey and eventually got that working yesterday, but had to turn off most other connectivity before it'd actually use the WiFi.
then I was at a pub later on with a free wifi hot spot, but that wouldn't connect despite it being 'available'
YAY!
Well...
I retested my theory. Disabled the wireless before I left the office. Got home, enabled it and I connected with no issues.
So there is a problem with having the wifi on when the phone goes into standby and it then waking up in a totally different location.
I wonder if WM6.1 addresses this. I hope so because although I have a work around, its still a pain in the a$$
I had similar problems on my Wizard... never had anything like that on my Kaiser.
DarkDvr said:
I had similar problems on my Wizard... never had anything like that on my Kaiser.
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Could you tell me what radio you are using?
foobar1977 said:
Could you tell me what radio you are using?
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ROM: DualTouch v3 (dutty's v3)
Radio: 1.27.11.31
No problems with it.. no missed calls, calls come through fine when I'm on HSDPA.. no wifi problems so far.
DarkDvr said:
ROM: DualTouch v3 (dutty's v3)
Radio: 1.27.11.31
No problems with it.. no missed calls, calls come through fine when I'm on HSDPA.. no wifi problems so far.
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Thanks, I might give that a go when I get a chance.
My problem is similiar. If I connect to a certain access point, it will stop working after a minute or so and then not be able connect to that access point or any other one, they are just listed as available. Strange...
Firstly set your wifi power to max.
Secondly, my orange Tytn2 (now dutty v3'd) has never had that problem.
I leave navizon on a lot of the time and thus enter and leave wifi zones frequently with wifi on and my device connects fine to the regular ones I use.
Wi-fi connection
Hi unwired,
I've been surfing this site, but unable to find an answer yet, a newbie that I am. Is there a way to define one network as default? Anytime I want to connect, I have to do it manually, and define settins, rather than just switch it on, connect automatically and fire away. This is how it works on my laptop, or I have to high expectations from the Kaiser?
Thanks in advance.
unwired4 said:
Firstly set your wifi power to max.
Secondly, my orange Tytn2 (now dutty v3'd) has never had that problem.
I leave navizon on a lot of the time and thus enter and leave wifi zones frequently with wifi on and my device connects fine to the regular ones I use.
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This is nothing to do with power settings, or at least not for me or several other people I have spoken to. Its generally not a problem when the wifi is on, its after the device has gone into suspend.
I'll bet my bottom dollar that if I set the reg hack so the wifi is always on I wont have this problem but I can't deal with the battery drain.
Just this morning I was connected to my office wifi, went for lunch without switching off the wifi first and when I got back I was longer able to connect to the same access point.
I then deleted the settings for the access point, soft reset and I'm connected again (even if I switch to low power).
To say that this pi$$es me off is an understatement, what kind of wireless device cant handle waking up in a different location to the one it went to sleep in!?
foobar1977 said:
This is nothing to do with power settings, or at least not for me or several other people I have spoken to. Its generally not a problem when the wifi is on, its after the device has gone into suspend.
I'll bet my bottom dollar that if I set the reg hack so the wifi is always on I wont have this problem but I can't deal with the battery drain.
Just this morning I was connected to my office wifi, went for lunch without switching off the wifi first and when I got back I was longer able to connect to the same access point.
I then deleted the settings for the access point, soft reset and I'm connected again (even if I switch to low power).
To say that this pi$$es me off is an understatement, what kind of wireless device cant handle waking up in a different location to the one it went to sleep in!?
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I have had similar problems. I get disco'ed from my AP at home and it won't let me re-connect. Jut keeps asking for the WPA2 key.
I use the same remedy as you. Turn off Wifi Before walking out of range. No amount of Softreset's fix it for me.
Although, some ROM's work better than others. ie Alex's WM6 ROM would not connect at all, the ROM / Radio in my sig are perfect so far.
P.S. This might also be tied to my router, cause a router reset fixes it for me. But i doubt work will let you try that
DaveShaw said:
Although, some ROM's work better than others. ie Alex's WM6 ROM would not connect at all, the ROM / Radio in my sig are perfect so far.
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Yeah I'm really hoping that this is fixed in WM6.1 which, if your experience is anything to go by, might well be the case. I really wanted to wait for the official 6.1, but I feel a flash of Duttys 6.1 coming on real soon.

Wifi not working no matter what I do. Help

I have had my diamond for about 2 weeks now and the wifi worked fine for the first few days I had it. I did a hard reset to fix another problem and then after that the wifi didn't work. I may have changed a setting but I don't remember. I have looked at every setting that there is and I can't figure out everything. I know that there should be wifi working because I use it on my ipod and laptop. I have tried putting my battery to performance, but that didn't work. Any suggestions of what I can do or try?
you tried the usual? restart ur wireless AP/router? delete the connection on ur diamond, try redo it, does it pick up your wireless AP/router?
Does bluetooth work ok? If not, then its a hardware fault and would need to be repaired.
Yes, I have tried your method beany and my bluetooth works, I just tried and it works fine. I can not get wifi anywhere. My house's wifi doesn't work, and at the gym, it doesnt work. No networks at all even show up. I need a solution.
Go to Settings>Connections Tab>Wlan>Power Mode> Slide the slider to the far left (Best performance). Should fix it
happened to me too the first few times, even when holding the phone up to the antenna of the router it wouldn't connect. i don't know why the "best battery" option is even available
Yes, I know that. That was the first thing I ever did. It didn't help. No wifi shows up anywhere. Is there any settings that I may have changed in Network adaptors?
I need something because it is so annoying with no wifi.
same problem here. No Wifi... But Bluetooth works OK
Maybe some radio patch or something??
I really don't know what to do anymore. My Iifi stop working without reason. I saw some topic about it but it seems nobody now how to fix it.
Please, help me.
I have already updated everything, it works randomly if I reset my phone.
Thanks

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