BB Connect Question - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi there
I'm due for an upgrade (got a HTC Wizard @ mo) and wanting to avoid carrying mobile & blackberry - have read that I can put BB Connect on Kaiser and this seems a good option.
My question is - work use Vodafone for BES - but do I need to be on the same network or can I stay with Orange and get BES activated on my account? I use my personal phone (had same number for years!) and just bill the company back - so would prefer to stay with Orange (for call plan) if possible.
Have asked Orange (UK) and they couldn't give me an answer that made sense, so thought I'd ask here!
Thanks for any help
Dan

BB Connect on O2
O2 have just released the Kaiser and i before i go and purchase one i was wondering if anybody knows whether the blackberry client will work on it and where i can get it from if possible. thanks

danski73 said:
Hi there
I'm due for an upgrade (got a HTC Wizard @ mo) and wanting to avoid carrying mobile & blackberry - have read that I can put BB Connect on Kaiser and this seems a good option.
My question is - work use Vodafone for BES - but do I need to be on the same network or can I stay with Orange and get BES activated on my account? I use my personal phone (had same number for years!) and just bill the company back - so would prefer to stay with Orange (for call plan) if possible.
Have asked Orange (UK) and they couldn't give me an answer that made sense, so thought I'd ask here!
Thanks for any help
Dan
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Your Kaiser can work as a blackberry if you install BlackBerry Connect 4 on your device. Regarding the SIM card, it has to be the one given by your Blackberry service provider. I mean if you use Orange for the phone, and if Orange is not you blackberry provider (it shouldn't be) then you will have to put the blackberry SIM card in your Kaiser and use another phone for your Orange SIM card (I know blackberry can also provide the phone functionality if you ask it and of course pay for it...).
I know you can put two SIM cards in your Kaiser using a specific tool (the brand name is SIMORE) but I don't know if it works with the Blackberry SIM cards (all I know is that is does not work with 3G ...).

thanks for the reply - what do you mean when you say that Orange shouldn't be my blackberry supplier?
surely i can get phone & blackberry on the same sim card, rather than use 2 sims?
not sure if i have an answer to the question yet either. to receive work e-mail do i need to be on the same network (i.e. vodafone) or can i be on a different one (e.g. orange)?
thanks

NavOrbitUser said:
O2 have just released the Kaiser and i before i go and purchase one i was wondering if anybody knows whether the blackberry client will work on it and where i can get it from if possible. thanks
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BB Connect comes on the application disk and is running on my Stellar right now. Obviously you have to tell O2 you want a Blackberry tariff before it will work.
I've had it running since I got my phone on Friday and my only complaints so far are that it didn't pull down all my old emails off the server like my 'real' Blackberry did/does and it appears you have to go through the Blackberry Internet Explorer shortcut to browse the web.
Blackberry tariff is £10 a month for (allegedly) unlimited email and browsing, though I suspect there is a FUP of 200meg, like on the data bolt on.

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HTC Kaiser - what unlimited data plan can I use?

Howdy,
I currently have a Cingular 8125 and for the last year I've been using an unlimited data plan for $19.95. I think this data plan is only for cell phones (not PDA phones) and I honestly can't remember how I managed to pull this off. I think my last phone was a cell phone and they just transfered the plan over.
Problem is that when I buy the AT&T Tilt, I'm assuming they'll only offer me the unlimited PDA data plan, which is much more expensive.
So here's the question - any reason why I can't just pop out my existing SIM card and move it over? Do I need a new SIM card for the 3G functionality? Any way to move over my existing data plan?
I remember purchasing the Cingular 8125 a long time ago w/ a medianet plan I believe $19.99. The representative didn't mention anything about unlimited PDA data plan. So if you still have the $19.99 media plan, you should be fine with it if using the Tilt. I guess it all comes down to how much you use their data...
If your existing sim card is 3g capable stating that you got it last year, I'm guessing toward the end of the year, then you should be fine. If not, you will need to obtain a new 3g sim card from ATT...
hope this helps you...
at last a question i can answer lol.
There are a few ways to go about this
1. buy the kaiser/tilt/8925 outright pop in your sim ATT wont change a thing as they dont track the phone u are using for the most part
2. you can try to do a upgrade to get it cheaper the only problem with this is if you run into someone who is doing there job and checking to make sure you have the correct stuff for your plan. if you go about this route when you go into do a upgrade just tell them you want to upgrade your phone sign a new contract but you dont want anything changed on your plan. most times this will work.
other then that thats about it. Only other thing is you do need a 3g sim if yours is not already it will say right on it if its 3g or not. At a ATT store they norm give them away with upgrades as well as at places like radioshack. ATT sometimes will give you a new free sim if you say yours is lost or not working other places like RS just charge you 25 as thats what ATT charges them for them.
magnamar said:
at last a question i can answer lol.
There are a few ways to go about this
1. buy the kaiser/tilt/8925 outright pop in your sim ATT wont change a thing as they dont track the phone u are using for the most part
2. you can try to do a upgrade to get it cheaper the only problem with this is if you run into someone who is doing there job and checking to make sure you have the correct stuff for your plan. if you go about this route when you go into do a upgrade just tell them you want to upgrade your phone sign a new contract but you dont want anything changed on your plan. most times this will work.
other then that thats about it. Only other thing is you do need a 3g sim if yours is not already it will say right on it if its 3g or not. At a ATT store they norm give them away with upgrades as well as at places like radioshack. ATT sometimes will give you a new free sim if you say yours is lost or not working other places like RS just charge you 25 as thats what ATT charges them for them.
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Cool - just checked my SIM card and it says '3G' on the back. I was going to upgrade to the Tilt via my corporate Web site, but that will force me to set up a whole new plan w/ the unlimited PDA package. Instead I'll try calling AT&T and doing the upgrade over the phone. I'll post back here to let you know if it worked.
Thanks for the info!
You can change it at any time....
On the AT&T account maintenance website, you can change your data plan to the Unlimited MEdiaNet for $19.95 if they make you sign up for a PDA plan when you get your Tilt. I did it last week.
jakirkla said:
On the AT&T account maintenance website, you can change your data plan to the Unlimited MEdiaNet for $19.95 if they make you sign up for a PDA plan when you get your Tilt. I did it last week.
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Which site is that - just the main AT&T wireless site where you view your account details? And it lets you change to MediaNet, even if you have a PDA? Nice....
I am a customer with Rogers of Canada ...
got a free/unactivated SIM card ( came with my S621 ) ... I kept on using my old card from way back.
This new free card that came with the S621...it doesn't say "3G" on it ... just the Rogers symbol and 5 lines of 4 digits codes on the left side ...
when flip over to other side ( the gold contact side ) ... it said " HSDPA" ... what does that equivalent to ??
Found the answer to my "HSDPA" question:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
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I have a question ...
I've been using the old card for the last few years .. this card does not have the HSPDA/3G imprinted on it ... but if I want to switch and let's say I told them my old card is damaged and wanted to use this new highspeed capable card ... will there be activation charges ??
other then what's labeled ... both card look exactly the same on the gold side
jakirkla said:
On the AT&T account maintenance website, you can change your data plan to the Unlimited MEdiaNet for $19.95 if they make you sign up for a PDA plan when you get your Tilt. I did it last week.
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I tried that, got a confirmation email, but the service never activated.
When I called AT&T they said that that service was not available for me because I had a PDA phone and I shouldn't have been able to select it, much less get a confirmation email.
Tried it again two weeks later and the same thing happened.

Kaiser on T-mobile ?

Anyone using this successfully ? I'm looking to buy this phone, want to make sure someone is happy with the phone on the U.S. T-mobile network first.
Works fine!
Bought mine out of Hong Kong (unlocked, of course), inserted my T-Mobile SIM card, made a few modifications to accomodate T-MobileWeb, and I was up and running in about 5 minutes.
No problems
I got an unlocked Kaiser. Popped in my sim card and phone and Total Internet settings were ready in seconds. Never a problem since.
bought mine in september..using the tmobile blackberry plan(cheaper same speed as total internet)... sets up the settings for you.... pop the sim in turn it on no mods necessary..... upgrade to 6.1 though ;-) threaded text is nice
yep, my tilt works good... Called up ATT and told them i going over seas and BAM! Unlocked in like 2 minutes... configured it for Tmobile and works Marvelous.
nautiakopnoy said:
bought mine in september..using the tmobile blackberry plan(cheaper same speed as total internet)... sets up the settings for you.... pop the sim in turn it on no mods necessary..... upgrade to 6.1 though ;-) threaded text is nice
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Total Internet plan (w/ free hotspot) is only 19.99 which it is same as the full Blackberry data plan.
Too bad that Starbucks is going to use ATT for their wifi service soon.

T-Mobile USA Side-Kick Prepay and Tytn II

Hello All,
I bought a prepay Side-Kick Tmobile sim card in Memphis today, after activating it and toping it up. I put it in my Kaiser. Auto connection setup started nicely and found tobile USA settings.. whoever, I am unable to attatch to the data network.. when ever I try and connect, the E with arrow icon starts working around, but then it stops and a message reading: Cannot connect for unknown reason (then it goes on about changing settings etc)
I looked everywhere for answers, (as I id like to think im more intelligent than just asking a question that could be dumb :-D) but i could not find a thing that worked about this.. and the things i did find were not helpful..so apologies in advance if there was an obvious place for my answer but i missed it some how..
The Device Information is:
ROM: Dutty WM6.1 WWE (CE OS 5.2.19716, build 19209)
Date: 04/01/08
Radio: 1.64.08.21
Protocol Version: 25.74.40.02H
I would hope that someone can help me, as i am desperately needing to get connected... im visiting from the UK and my silly sim card malfunctioned and i can no longer get online :-(
Many Thanks
the other day i saw a cab that said ::
"use this when you have trouble setting up t-mobile" ..
post #20 on page :: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336084&highlight=tmobyjoe599.cab
has a cab and instructions.. maybe its for you.. if you try it, please report results
Sidekick data tries to connect to Danger (manufacturer of SKs) Servers for internet connection, any other devices will not work on that service. You need to use the service that they offer for regular cell phones called Tzones or the data plan for smartphones
amkaos said:
the other day i saw a cab that said ::
"use this when you have trouble setting up t-mobile" ..
post #20 on page :: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336084&highlight=tmobyjoe599.cab
has a cab and instructions.. maybe its for you.. if you try it, please report results
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I tried the file (its one of the solutions i found and didnt work before posting).. what it did that it refused to even try and connect. it was something to do with having the Prixy settings active..so really im not sure what to do..
I tried to get through to Tmobile CS, but im almost sure that they will have no clue on what to do, but i was too late in the evening, so I will try tomorrow..
Any more ideas are Warmyl welcommed!
Thanks
from what i've read it seems that the sidekick data plans will not work on our devices.. as i was planning to do the same thing it seems that only the unlimited text would work not the data probably due to the fact that the data connects through danger which would detect that it's not a sidekick.. i was disappointed to find this out b4 as well
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
So what does a man have to do to get access to get pay as you go mobile access( in the US)!? does any one know any other service provider that would sell me a prepay sim that will have some kinda daily data package?
cant tell you who dissapointing this is!
bigchemist said:
So what does a man have to do to get access to get pay as you go mobile access( in the US)!? does any one know any other service provider that would sell me a prepay sim that will have some kinda daily data package?
cant tell you who dissapointing this is!
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I totally agree! I ran into the same problem as you. I am in the USA for 3 weeks and want a cheap (prepaid) mobile data connection. The best option seems to be: T-Mobile Total Internet Plan $40 month-by-month unlimited EDGE + WiFi.
ATT also sells prepaid sims under the name Go Phone...
SH4YD33 said:
ATT also sells prepaid sims under the name Go Phone...
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Yes.. I found that out.. but they said in the ATT shop that it doesnt allow data access :-(
The Sum of All Fears!
Well to sum up,
I managed to get through to tmobile CS, they confirmed what was mentioned before about Side Kick servers. so the anser is No to all other devices besides to "side kick" (the handset)..so no Kaiser, or anything else!
I guess that i will have a new addition to my sim collection!
Many thanks to all that gave thier opinion and tried helping out
Ta
i actually had the same problem. and i downloadede a Dutty Tmobile set up worked wonders! make sure you install it to device .
i downloaded the zip onto my memory card. inserted it into phone searched my memory card opened the zip and used the DUTTY tool to set up connection. installed the program onto device and once installed you will need to do a soft reset in. once the phone comes back on it will prompt you to set up the tmobile connection.
hope it helped

G1 in Hand (Ask Away)General Questions

Does anyone know if the text messaging will be threaded similar to wm 6.1?
gottifour said:
Does anyone know if the text messaging will be threaded similar to wm 6.1?
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it will be similar but yet not similar....................it will be threaded but it wont be all pretty; but yes threaded there is a video that shows this i dont recall which one due to the fact that there are like 30 videos on youtube......but its there somewhere
Thanks for the reply...I really got used to the 6.1 version. I hope somebody way smarter than me develops a nice program similar to what we have been using.
with this being so open...the sky is the limit on what can be done...look at what people have done with WM on here. These guys will be computing their fingers off making new apps...i am sure that we will not have to use the android market..im sure that people will make apps-> download to computer->use computer to put on our SD-> install to phone...
I like the threaded SMS - It's very smooth for me, kind of like a prettier IRC.
I give it 2 weeks max till it comes out if it isn't already on g1, threaded text is my favorite feature from 6.1.
stats555 said:
I give it 2 weeks max till it comes out if it isn't already on g1, threaded text is my favorite feature from 6.1.
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It's there, and is mentioned a few times in the user guide:
G1 User Guide-Page 57 said:
Select a message thread in the list to open it for reading. When open, the individual messages appear stacked on the screen, much like with instant messaging conversations (or chats). Note that messages you send are also listed in the Read view.
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It's there, and is mentioned a few times in the user guide:
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cool..thanks for the reply
questions using the g1 without 25$ plan
-if i buy a g1 in ebay and i dont want to pay the 25$ add. plan, i can use this phone with my tmobil plan?? only have to change the sim card?
-for request a phone now i have to select 35$ or 25$ addicional plan. when i have the phone i can cancel this 25$ or 35$ plan?
now i am using excalibur with 4.99 internet plan.
thanks
Negative. The data plan is required. It will be added to your account when you get the phone. It's tied to the G1.
beartard said:
Negative. The data plan is required. It will be added to your account when you get the phone. It's tied to the G1.
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Tmo said the same thing with the sidekicks. But after a while you were able to remove sidekick plan.
It may very well be. But the fact is that the data plan is part of buying the phone. If you make changes to the plan within the term of your new, two-year contract, you risk that early-termination fee deal.
For those who didn't re-up a contract for the phone, nobody knows just yet how it will work if you cancel the data plan.
This is like if you go to the AT&T wireless forums, 5000 questions a day about removing the iPhone plan (can't be done). Are there ways around it? We don't know yet. What we do know is, T-Mobile is making you keep the plan as long as you keep the phone, exactly like iPhone. If you can find a way to use it without the plan but still get unlimited data, do that.
technically, if Tmobile doesnt know you have the Dream, they cant make you purchase a package (unless I am missing something). If you leave your phone listed in the My Tmobile as a Dash, or whatever, the options available for that phone are shown and will not include the dream packages. If you buy the phone elsewhere, they wont know until you tell them.
Of course I have absolutely no idea why you would want a phone like this without data (and without text messaging, since they are likely tied) as it would be so crippled.
well t-mobile would know because i called them a day and they told me every phone i've used including the iphone. They said everytime you make a call from you cell they get info on what phone your using
interesting, because they only knew the last phone they sold me when I called them before. I have never bought a Dash from them, yet they allowed me to add tzones access to my "razr" and use it on the Dash for over a year before I upgraded to the full internet plan.
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interesting, because they only knew the last phone they sold me when I called them before. I have never bought a Dash from them, yet they allowed me to add tzones access to my "razr" and use it on the Dash for over a year before I upgraded to the full internet plan.
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Same thing with my tilt... in fact I keep telling them that it's the wing and my.t-mobile.com never saves it. I think that if you have a t-mobile phone they can tell but if it's an att or even a CID/SIM unlocked phone (Correct me if I am wrong on the CID/SIM part) they can still see it but it doesn't match any of their phones so they don't know what it is.
wat if i have familt text messaging can i only pay 15 or 20 for data
Vendor and model/serial number are contained in the IMEI.
eg. 00|000000|111111|0
First 2 groups are TAC and stuff, third is UE serial, last is checksum bit.
IMEI and IMSI are sent to the network when the device attatches to a cell.
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Looked at the spec quickly (just happened to have Rel6 to hand, as you do)
Its in 22.016 if anyone is interested.
Composition of IMEI
The composition of the IMEI shall be such that each individual mobile station equipment can be separately identified.
Information is contained in the IMEI by which the PLMN, after requesting it, can immediately decide whether or not to accept calls made by means of this equipment.
Secondly, the IMEI shall directly or indirectly contain all information which is necessary for the network operator to make relations through its administrative system to trace the equipment to its origin of production. 3GPP TS 23.003 [2] describes the structure of the IMEI in detail
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T-mobile can see every phone you use
Dabs is correct, every time that you make a call the network sees and logs the IMEI number on the phone. I work for T-mobile and when you pull up an account you can see every device that has ever been used on that account and the dates it was used.
T-mobile has traditionally not cared what kind of phone that you use, if you want to buy an unlocked smart phone and you can get internet access working on t-zones they don't care.
T-mobile knows that you are using a G1, the question is do they care. I can personally vouch for the fact that it will work on a blackberry data plan, I had my sim in one today and had full 3G service (averaging roughly 700kps over 3).
Regarding the sidekicks on t-mobile, the data plan is required (but can be removed) because of the way the sidekick stores data on the sidekick server. Sidekicks store the majority of their data on the server. The phone restores data off of the server after being turned off. If you do not have the sidekick data and remover the battery you lose all of the info, contacts, etc, except what is stored on the sim card.

Can I use my TMobile Diamond on Three (UK)

I have a TMobile (UK) Diamond which is about to come out of the contract.
My wife who has about a year of her 18month contract with 'Three UK'.
She has a rubbish phone and would like to take use my Diamond on Three.
I know I'll have to get it unlocked first...
What I'm not sure about is will it 'just work' on Three without any problems... IE will her messaging settings and internet access settings be set up automatically when I insert her SIM card, or am I going to have more hurdles to jump to get it working?
i'd be grateful for any advice on this.

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