Please do me a favor and dump ram - HTC Wings

Please use the attached files to dump 1MB ram to file.
Please zip it and attach in this thread. Thx!
EDIT: no need anymore, files removed

Here it is...

Is it from prepro model?

No, production model.

I will dump the ram for you as soon as I'm at home
Ah, it's a pre-production mode of course

Thx amaric for your dump.
Is it SIM locked?
If it is, please try this code:178501488

jockyw2001 said:
Thx amaric for your dump.
Is it SIM locked?
If it is, please try this code:178501488
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It is not SIM locked.

rafuz.. werent you going to dump ur ram here?
why do u make so many promises and then disappear?!
please help us with the GPS issue

Maybe he got contacted by HTC and either threatened or bought not to dump the pre-prod rom?
I guess there are not so many pre-prods out there and perhaps HTC have a iron grip on them with contracts or something???

lol
Its a bit to early for a Conspiracy Theory if you ask me. Just be patiant, Rome wasnt built in a day...

To: jockyw2001, see pls GPS thread - moneytoo found that some gps exe files missing. Are these files in Kaiser? Thanks

I will do some checking, please also see my thread about dumping ROM.

Hi guys,
I just returned from holiday and was reading the forum.
As you know I also have a working GPS pre-production model of the S730.
I was going to dump everything you like but I don't know if tis is still necessary. If yes, could you give me a hand?
Attention: I need to return the model tomorrow (the distributor asked it back)
Many thanks,
Narthexs

Yes it's necessary. A complete dump of the pre-prod ROM is still missing I think. I never did any dumps so I wont be much of help to you.

Yeeeessss. Please do it! 6000 members are waiting only for you. The steps how to dump a rom is in the thread:
"How to Dump a ROM", but put the result ROM here. THANK YOU!!!

narthexs;
[B said:
Attention: [/B]I need to return the model tomorrow (the distributor asked it back)
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For what reason???? They want to avoid possibility to find out how to enable GPS maybe. After that will you receive the production model with nonworking GPS?

narthexs said:
Hi guys,
I just returned from holiday and was reading the forum.
As you know I also have a working GPS pre-production model of the S730.
I was going to dump everything you like but I don't know if tis is still necessary. If yes, could you give me a hand?
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Sure, start here

lol
waits and bites nails, hehehe

NoNco said:
waits and bites nails, hehehe
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me too good luck dude (nearly went for the Cruise dammit)

PLEASE DUMP THE ROM, narthexs!
We are desperately waiting for this (as mentioned above).
I wonder if they are asking him to return the device because the MSM 7200 Chip is 3G enabled for the US?

Related

Wizard rom Upgrade

Hi,
I would like to upgrade the rom on my Qtek 9100 as getting a hermes seems like a waste of time(not enough new developments) Can anyone reccommend a good rom and provide a link to it? - I cant find farias rom anywhere. I have the earliest revision of radio and os rom avail as I got my 9100 last December.
Please help as I think upgrading ROM would be much preferable to upgrading phone.
P.s do the new roms fix the screen calibration and alarm wakeup problems
Many Thanks,
Darko2006
darko2006 said:
Hi,
I would like to upgrade the rom on my Qtek 9100 as getting a hermes seems like a waste of time(not enough new developments) Can anyone reccommend a good rom and provide a link to it? - I cant find farias rom anywhere. I have the earliest revision of radio and os rom avail as I got my 9100 last December.
Please help as I think upgrading ROM would be much preferable to upgrading phone.
P.s do the new roms fix the screen calibration and alarm wakeup problems
Many Thanks,
Darko2006
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It is highly unlikely that you will find Farias ROM as he has removed it from the general population. You need to read for about a week or two and after that you may be ready to upgrade your phone. I don't know if the new ROMs fix the problems you are talking about because I never had those problems to begin with.
Good Luck,
Kirby
rkwhyte2 said:
It is highly unlikely that you will find Farias ROM as he has removed it from the general population. You need to read for about a week or two and after that you may be ready to upgrade your phone. I don't know if the new ROMs fix the problems you are talking about because I never had those problems to begin with.
Good Luck,
Kirby
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Do you have the info on what was in Farias ROM?
I don't want the ROM, but I'd like to see what he was doing. It's a shame that someone had to be an arse and ruin for other people, but then again, it's as a shame that people let people get to them over the interweb.
juanschwartz said:
Do you have the info on what was in Farias ROM?
I don't want the ROM, but I'd like to see what he was doing. It's a shame that someone had to be an arse and ruin for other people, but then again, it's as a shame that people let people get to them over the interweb.
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The best way to find out what his ROM had in it is to go to the first post in his thread and find the link that will show you his first post in the very first thread about this whole thing. He talks in detail about what the ROM contains.
Kirby
rkwhyte2 said:
The best way to find out what his ROM had in it is to go to the first post in his thread and find the link that will show you his first post in the very first thread about this whole thing. He talks in detail about what the ROM contains.
Kirby
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I went there and got 404...
darko2006 said:
P.s do the new roms fix the screen calibration and alarm wakeup problems
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It seems screen calibration is a hardware problem...
I had got this, was forced to visit service center (to replace the whole display). New screen is fine
Vladimyr said:
It seems screen calibration is a hardware problem...
I had got this, was forced to visit service center (to replace the whole display). New screen is fine
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crap, looks like getting a hemes would be the way to go then.
Is it much better than the wizard? - the only thing I can see different is 3G which I dont really need anyway(I dont watch corporate media or TV)
rkwhyte2 said:
It is highly unlikely that you will find Farias ROM as he has removed it from the general population. You need to read for about a week or two and after that you may be ready to upgrade your phone. I don't know if the new ROMs fix the problems you are talking about because I never had those problems to begin with.
Good Luck,
Kirby
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Cheers, I have the knowledge to update my rom now, I just need to know a suitiable one with the minimum of hassle and problems with good apps already installed e.t.c. the rom I have now is fully unlocked and ext rom visibe e.t.c. but it is version 1.1.7.5 I hear there is a great speed dufference in the later revisions - is this correct?
darko2006 said:
Cheers, I have the knowledge to update my rom now, I just need to know a suitiable one with the minimum of hassle and problems with good apps already installed e.t.c. the rom I have now is fully unlocked and ext rom visibe e.t.c. but it is version 1.1.7.5 I hear there is a great speed dufference in the later revisions - is this correct?
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You might want to take a look at what Molski has to offer. He has a fairly clean ROM that is quite stable.
Kirby
juanschwartz said:
I went there and got 404...
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I forgot about that try it using IE.
Kirby
rkwhyte2 said:
I forgot about that try it using IE.
Kirby
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The original thread was removed after being trashed by an idiot..
kyphur said:
The original thread was removed after being trashed by an idiot..
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Dang you are right what a bummer.

Need help to CID unlock

I would like to unlock CID of my Trinity in order to be able to switch from Italian ROM to English ROM.
Can please somebody tell me how to do it ? Since I am totally new to tweaking and hacking, I need a very simple step-by-step guidance.
Thank you
Passano
can you please make an archive with this files:
* all *.0409.mui
* all *.0409.htm
* all *.0409.css
* all *.0409.wav
plus:
lang_db.txt
browsres.dll
elate.dll
elatesock.dll
instmsgrresources.dll
jmmbox.dll
LocInfo.dll
msscript.dll
outres.dll
pmsnresources.dll
shellres.dll
shellresapps.dll
syncres.dll
tapres.dll
tshres.dll
wmploc.dll
thanks
Thank you Decebal for your kind answer.
I can make an archive (shall I zip them all together and send them to you ?), if they are on my device. But will this help me doing the CID unlock ?
Perhaps there is something I am missing in your post. Could you please explain me better ?
Passano said:
Thank you Decebal for your kind answer.
I can make an archive (shall I zip them all together and send them to you ?), if they are on my device. But will this help me doing the CID unlock ?
Perhaps there is something I am missing in your post. Could you please explain me better ?
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no. it will not make the CID unlock but it will help me make some language packs that will change the language on the locked devices.
a zip file will be ok.
I appreciate your kind offer to make such changements, but since I would like to upgrade/change ROM, I am really interested in CID unlocking.
I hope you are not offended by my obstination. I assure you that your offering has impressed me.
Thank you
Passano
Passano said:
I appreciate your kind offer to make such changements, but since I would like to upgrade/change ROM, I am really interested in CID unlocking.
I hope you are not offended by my obstination. I assure you that your offering has impressed me.
Thank you
Passano
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Passano,
I am also interested in CID unlocking a Trinity, but so far we were unable to do it. So .. I decided to find/offer an alternative solution.
I CANNOT work alone on it as I have no access to other than german languages therefore my request.
This community is based and built onto collaboration and seems that more and more people only want to get things with nothing in exchange.
x Admins: this was just a small rant as I try to get for about a week the resources files from different languages.
I will offer assistance you need
I agree with your sentiments!
decebal said:
Passano,
I am also interested in CID unlocking a Trinity, but so far we were unable to do it. So .. I decided to find/offer an alternative solution.
If you still need the mentioned files. I'llsent to you with nio problem.....
Let me know
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capzicco said:
decebal said:
Passano,
I am also interested in CID unlocking a Trinity, but so far we were unable to do it. So .. I decided to find/offer an alternative solution.
If you still need the mentioned files. I'llsent to you with nio problem.....
Let me know
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thanks. so far no one sent me anything!
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I'm trying , but i cant copy. I try with resco.... and I have *.0410.* file
Let me know how to copy the file for you
Hi I'm a Hermes user.The devices are on most parts the same.Have you read this thread in the HTC Breeze Forum ? It has the same hardware and an equal bootloader like the HTC Hermes.
Maybe is this a possibility to make your Trinity sim and CID unlock ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282223
HTCSHTC__405L””'HTCE on my trinity
Htcshtc__102Ã;¿htce

No Sound!

hey guys, i unlocked my tilt 2 days ago. since then, i have only been able to place 1 outgoing call, and then i have to restart the phone. this is starting to get very annoying. there is no ringer, no volume, nothing.
Before you tell me to reflash my radio, i did. like 20 times. nothing
Whoever wrote that unlocking program messed up BIG time.....
Halp!
lol. rotfl..haha..sorry man.. just read read read that's all I can say.
why waste your energy typing? if you dont have anything worthwile to suggest, then GTFO
Change your Radio. The radio included in your new ROM does not the right one. do i search and find a compatible radio and it will work
bluemamba said:
Change your Radio. The radio included in your new ROM does not the right one. do i search and find a compatible radio and it will work
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thx capitan obvious!!! did you read my original post? i tried EVERY radio!!
You're not very polite
Besides, the unlocker worked perfectly for many many many people here, so i would not say that Olipro messed around here.but anyways...
did you reflash the same Radio Version all the time or did you try different ones?? I had Versions with which the same problem occured, no voice, no ringer, no sounds. 1.64.08.21 worked for me
guciodog said:
Before you tell me to reflash my radio, i did. like 20 times. nothing
Whoever wrote that unlocking program ****ed up BIG time.....
Halp!
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Its really funny how you are the only individual that flashing the radio didn't help. And before you go talking about OLI, jocky and the likes that made the program so you could get rid of the bloat and flash works of art that this forum provides, I'd look inward and see if you might have done something wrong.
You know what, Im gonna make it real easy. If you have a 6.1 rom then you need a 6.1 radio. Same goes for 6.0. However some cooked roms are at$t specific and you have to have a at$t radio. A little more information such as the radio you are using and the rom would be really helpful.
haha simultanuous post and NO, your original post does NOT tell WHICH Radio Versions you tried...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
tried every radio on that page.
im running http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380991
sorry if im a little pissed off, but comments like "haha read read read" and "relash your radio" dont help at all
While we all understand that you're frustrated due to the problems you've been having, there is no need to insult the people who have created these tools.
Please also understand that the more information you give, the more we can help. The other members are just trying to tell you that what you've told us is not enough for us to assist.
You also have to understand that many MANY people ask similar / redundant questions all the time. The answers are usually the same, and thus, some users are more disturbed by these redundant questions than others.
Finally, ask nicely for assistance. No one is required to assist you, so remember that a bit of honey always gets you further than a lump of turd.
guciodog said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
tried every radio on that page.
im running http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380991
sorry if im a little pissed off, but comments like "haha read read read" and "relash your radio" dont help at all
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Ok, why did you try to change radios? That rom comes with 1.64.08.21. Did you HR at the "Tap here to align" screen prior to setting up all your apps? Have you HR since this happened to see if it fixed it?
guciodog said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
tried every radio on that page.
im running http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380991
sorry if im a little pissed off, but comments like "haha read read read" and "relash your radio" dont help at all
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If ur pissed off at him , why are u impolite to me?
Listen and listen good...
YOU RADIO IS INCOMPATIBLE (means not compatible; not the right one).
Find a Compatible Radio that matches your dam ROM (whatever the f that is) READ READ and READ again..and find it.
There are experts and know 30000% more than u on this site..respect their help or dont post anymore.
Worst case scenario...revert back to your old ROM that work and leave us in peace
@ p1tater-and why would i want to delete all my data?
and 2, if the "experts" KNEW that their unlocker would f-up the radio, why wouldnt they fix it?
guciodog said:
and why would i want to delete all my data?
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I try and try....... I give up. I'm moving on now. Good luck.
guciodog said:
and why would i want to delete all my data?
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back up you data...then when u go back to a ROM that works for you...restore them....
sprite back up is a good one
bluemamba said:
back up you data...then when u go back to a ROM that works for you...restore them....
sprite back up is a good one
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the ROM works perfectly, its the radio thats giving me problems.
seriously im moving on too.
Read the stickys well and you will find you answer.
good luck
Please provide the following information so we can better assist:
Which ROM was installed? Please tell us what it says from Start /Settings / About and Device Information from your phone.
Which SIM unlocker did you use? Jockyw2001 or Olipro?
Are you sure that you've completed the unlocking successfully?
guciodog said:
@ p1tater-and why would i want to delete all my data?
and 2, if the "experts" KNEW that their unlocker would f-up the radio, why wouldnt they fix it?
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The unlockers have been used successfully time and time again. However, responsibility for it's results lie within your ability to accept failure and to follow through all the steps properly.
Continuing to lay blame on others is quickly making you lose the people trying to help you.
guciodog said:
the ROM works perfectly, its the radio thats giving me problems.
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Holy Hell. The rom you pointed to came with a radio, that I know for a fact works. Why did you try to change radios? If it didnt work straight out of the box then you have a bad flash and the radio section is bad.
Edit:
I did feel bad for you and decided to come back and help but you wont listen so have fun playing with the nice new shiny brick you call a phone. You could get better reception from 2 cups and a string before I come back to help. I'm done.
_Alex_ said:
Please provide the following information so we can better assist:
Which ROM was installed? Please tell us what it says from Start /Settings / About and Device Information from your phone.
Which SIM unlocker did you use? Jockyw2001 or Olipro?
Are you sure that you've completed the unlocking successfully?
The unlockers have been used successfully time and time again. However, responsibility for it's results lie within your ability to accept failure and to follow through all the steps properly.
Continuing to lay blame on others is quickly making you lose the people trying to help you.
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1. no idea what my original ROM was, now im running "CE OS 5.219202 (build 19202 dutty's) v6.1
2. i used the olipro one
3. it said "phone unlocked" so im guessing it worked.
im not sure if i stated this before, i was running dutty's ROM for 2 weeks, and just recently (sunday) unlocked it.
for all those telling me to read the stickies, there is only one relevant to my situation, and it tells you to try a different radio. i did that. many times.
if i cant fix it, im selling this POS and getting an iphone

Liberated Chinese Traditional SnapVue Backup

Here is liberated Chinese Traditional SnapVue, http://www.zshare.net/download/177435127433672d/
Please use this for your ROM Cooking to help localization. This is backup of my system.
Thanks to cmonex for her help in reconstructing NBH file. She is amazing.
Thanks to thaihugo for WWE 1.22. I used to extract the OS.nb file.
Thanks to pof for the thread, how to dump HTC Shift ROM.
Thanks to all who answered my questions regarding this.
I am planning to install thaihugo 1.22, because I cannot read chinese and move to WWE.
I am learning cooking, please let me know how could i help. I have few cycles available for the next couple of weeks.
Thanks
Ram
Thanks for your help
Right now, my two subjects are phone and video (d3d mainly). If you want to help, please try to make this work on my rom, or to provide the necessary folders from SYS to adapt to any rom. Make sure you post your progress so we can stay in sync
Will do.
thaihugo
definately. If I could get phone and d3d on this, i could retire hermes, that I am using for my official calls and keep dell lattitude 620 home while travelling. I will try to work on those and update the progress.
Thanks
Ram
thanks a lot for your ROM, I flashed the new ROM without backing up the original ROM, otherwise, I will have problem if my shift needed to take back for service.
szjohnwong said:
thanks a lot for your ROM, I flashed the new ROM without backing up the original ROM, otherwise, I will have problem if my shift needed to take back for service.
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szjohnwong
No problem. you are welcome.
Thanks
Ram
one more request, can you make it with RUU?
we can wait!
Hi Saiweb,
I'd flash your rom without backup mine original rom. After completed, it said flash is successfully but the Snapvue side goes dark.
How can I recover it?
Many Thanks1
Hi Saiweb,
Can you post the original CHT rom?
Many Thanks!
hkesunny said:
Hi Saiweb,
Can you post the original CHT rom?
Many Thanks!
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It is original ROM only. For your other question, I am currently travelling as soon as I am back home, I would help you out. did you try to hard reset (take out battery, wait for few seconds and reinsert battery) and try.
Thanks
Ram
szjohnwong said:
one more request, can you make it with RUU?
we can wait!
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Hi
I am currently travelling. I will as soon as I am back home.
Thanks
Ram
hkesunny said:
Hi Saiweb,
I'd flash your rom without backup mine original rom. After completed, it said flash is successfully but the Snapvue side goes dark.
How can I recover it?
Many Thanks1
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Hi Sunny
I sent you couple of PMs regarding this. Follow this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421351
Let me know how did it go.
Thanks
Ram
Try this.
hkesunny said:
Hi Saiweb,
I'd flash your rom without backup mine original rom. After completed, it said flash is successfully but the Snapvue side goes dark.
How can I recover it?
Many Thanks1
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Hi Sunny
I am able to flash it back to CHT frofile uploaded, but anyway this time I followed thaihugo mentioned style to extract, try this and let me know. This doesn't have GPS though. ruu_signed.cht.nbh - 57.22MB
Thanks
Ram
saiweb said:
Hi Sunny
I am able to flash it back to CHT frofile uploaded, but anyway this time I followed thaihugo mentioned style to extract, try this and let me know. This doesn't have GPS though. ruu_signed.cht.nbh - 57.22MB
Thanks
Ram
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Dear Ram,
Thanks a lot for your great help. Your NBH file is downloading and I will keep you update.
Sunny
saiweb said:
Hi Sunny
I am able to flash it back to CHT frofile uploaded, but anyway this time I followed thaihugo mentioned style to extract, try this and let me know. This doesn't have GPS though. ruu_signed.cht.nbh - 57.22MB
Thanks
Ram
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Dear Ram,
Thanks again for your kindness and great work! Just restored your NBH using CustomRUU. Everything looks fine and I got back the Chinese Snapvue. Could you do me a favor use Thaihugo mentioned style to re-build the Rom with the GPS?
Your kindness is much much appreciated!
Sunny
Gps is there if you copy OEMdrivers folder from my source. The gpstool, used to check the gps, is not here if you don't copy the content of the OEM folder. But you can try google maps to see if it get a fix.
Cool.
hkesunny said:
Dear Ram,
Thanks again for your kindness and great work! Just restored your NBH using CustomRUU. Everything looks fine and I got back the Chinese Snapvue. Could you do me a favor use Thaihugo mentioned style to re-build the Rom with the GPS?
Your kindness is much much appreciated!
Sunny
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Sunny
Glad to know that it worked for you. Definately, will add GPS to that and upload it again.
Thanks
Ram
thaihugo said:
Gps is there if you copy OEMdrivers folder from my source. The gpstool, used to check the gps, is not here if you don't copy the content of the OEM folder. But you can try google maps to see if it get a fix.
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thaihugo
I will do that. how far did you go with Phone?
Thanks
Ram
For the phone, I couldn't find any DLL that can connect. It's either a radio problem, or the RIL.Dll and rilphone.dll that must be found. Using the one from kaiser doesn't help, as it complains about sim door not locked.
So far, I cannot go further, but maybe the rights DLL's can make if work. That's also why I'm posting the kitchen, and hope to discuss about this in the thread.
thaihugo said:
For the phone, I couldn't find any DLL that can connect. It's either a radio problem, or the RIL.Dll and rilphone.dll that must be found. Using the one from kaiser doesn't help, as it complains about sim door not locked.
So far, I cannot go further, but maybe the rights DLL's can make if work. That's also why I'm posting the kitchen, and hope to discuss about this in the thread.
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Ok. I will work on that. I have few cycles free starting today.
Thanks
Ram
saiweb said:
Sunny
Glad to know that it worked for you. Definately, will add GPS to that and upload it again.
Thanks
Ram
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Dear Ram,
Few days past, still waiting your CHT Rom with GPS.
Thanks
Sunny

Dump The Radio !

Hi There,
its gone quiet in this Forum for the Shift,
i want to put some life back in it,
if anyone want to do me a favor i'd like to get the Radio Rom of the shift Dumped. If you could do that and upload it i would be glad.
I learned a lot of stuff about the ARM processors the last weeks and now feeling to get an Radio rom to reverse it !
and compare to the Radio stuff from other devices wich are simmilar to the MSM7200 rom from Shift !!
Kind regards
possibly this could tell us where the limit is that it doesnt accept phone calls.
As nobody replied i dumped it myself, if some of the pro's can help me to cook a flashable romm of it i would be glad.
http://rapidshare.com/files/166050083/files_dumped.zip
mem.txt holds the bases and addresses
Kind regards for your help
Yes it's been really quiet at the Shift front. Either project team is still cooking in secret, or they gave up and moved on to other devices. Anyway, If there's anything I can do to help you test just ask. I am really easy with donating time, rather than money.
Neutron83 said:
As nobody replied i dumped it myself, if some of the pro's can help me to cook a flashable romm of it i would be glad.
http://rapidshare.com/files/166050083/files_dumped.zip
mem.txt holds the bases and addresses
Kind regards for your help
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Hi,
I appreciate your effort here, as I'm no specialist to radio, but I don't understand why you need to cook a rom if you have the radio part? there are totaly independent AFAIK
Okay im new to embeded reversing but as i have ported tapi and so on to shift and phone still doesnt work i assumed that the radio rom is the limiting part. as i looked for the radio rom version in the forum i found polaris / kaiser roms with that version number , and cause they have the same HW i think there is then point to look iinto to get phone working. so i dumped the radio and like to get somethinbg flashable because if i do wrong i need to "repair! flash" it ...
and if i find the interesting parts and could solve them i need to know how to flash them to others to provide my stuff !
in first step it will be for myself as secure as i can get it back to a working version
greets
Config
Hi there i forgot the Config dump
here it is
http://rapidshare.com/files/166325608/temp.qcn
greets
Hi Radio Hackers,
I hope there is something going on with the still quit shift project:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448112
greetz
Joy

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