When I originally bought my Tilt, it was a HTC 8925 but it RLoD'd so i had to get it replaced (see sig) when the replaced one came, it was a 8900 should i be mad?
8925 has camera in the back and 9800 has none. They're same priced, too.
Why need to be mad? Just call and let they know the issue, they will swap it for you right away.
Well... heres the thing, its def an 8900 becasie about and system info says so, but there IS a camera on it
The system says it's 8900. That's in the About or somewhere like that. Don't worry about it, that's what all Tilt's originally say .
kareem9nba said:
The system says it's 8900. That's in the About or somewhere like that. Don't worry about it, that's what all Tilt's originally say .
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Yup, same here.
I'm not pretty sure where do you get the "8900" info! All three of my tilt simply say model No. Kaiser in Device Information> Identity; and say nothing in "About"
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Well... heres the thing, its def an 8900 becasie about and system info says so, but there IS a camera on it
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That I believe if memory serves that the "HTC-8900" is common and the series. If you had an actual ATT Tilt NC aka 8900 it would not have the rear camera and it would say KAIS110 in the top left corner under the battery.
The info is in the battery compartment
Look in the label where the phone's P/N, S/N and IMEAI are printed.
I have an 8900, and the label says KAIS110.
It has no cameras at all.
In the back, just by the speaker, there's an opaque black plastic cover, where the camera would be in the other Kaiser models (or the 8925).
Does anyone know of or have the Tilt with Both cameras? Front and back? It's shown on HTC, but not on AT&T the only US carrier.
Its only called the Tilt by AT&T.
Elsewhere it is known as the HTC Tytn2, the Vario3, etc etc
@cny_man AT&T does NOT support video calling. Hence, no front camera.
Battery says Kais160
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Battery says Kais160
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Yep they all do .. Now pull that sucker out of the phone so you can see the labels in the phone that are UNDER the battery.
Let me understand
8925: it has one, has only the camera
8900: it has one, has nothing
myk980 said:
Let me understand
8925: it has one, has only the camera
8900: it has one, has nothing
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Not sure what you mean by "it has one" .. One of what?
The 8925 has no front camera but it does have a rear camera.
The 8900 has no cameras at all. Not front or rear.
There's another difference. An 8925 has HSUPA while a 8900 does not. My tilt also says 8900 but has the camera.. so who knows.
here is a direct compare of the two: http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
You might have real photos of 8900 and 8925 to see how they are made, especially the 8900
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All:
It would appear that my device is a KAIS130. Does anyone know how this differs from the KAIS100, KAIS110, and KAIS120?
NW
I have no idea how it differs - but I also have a KAIS130...
It would be interesting to see if you have any trouble registering on the HTC e-Club...
See this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332992&page=5
I believe we all have 130's. When you take your battery back off, there's a sticker ABOVE your battery. What is the country code? Mine's EU.
-Mc
Different number of cameras!
From FCC docs
100: 3M camera no front camera
110: No camera
120: Both cameras
Not sure where the 130 came from
Gordon
GordonTGopher said:
From FCC docs
100: 3M camera no front camera
110: No camera
120: Both cameras
Not sure where the 130 came from
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Mine is also KAIS 130. With date of manufacture 061107(TB02)/EU Yet I have none of the problems stated here Bought it in Rotterdam.
Has any one noticed that the battery also hasModel KAIS 160
These codes may not mean much in the solution of the registration and other problems
The KAIS130 is the standard HTC production version. The AT&T version will probably be the 100, etc. The T-Mobile Vario III might be the 120 version.
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The KAIS130 is the standard HTC production version. The AT&T version will probably be the 100, etc. The T-Mobile Vario III might be the 120 version.
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I have the T-Mobile Vario III, and it's the KAIS130.
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the Kais130 is the battery model number, not your device model. hence why its on the battery
id assume if they release an extended battery, it would be called the kais200 or something...
Rayder said:
the Kais130 is the battery model number, not your device model. hence why its on the battery
id assume if they release an extended battery, it would be called the kais200 or something...
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NO YOUR WRONG!!
Most Kaisers out now are KAIS130's the Battery is a KAIS160 go look at your battery if you want to know what Kaiser you have put your phone into bootoader mode by pressing and holding in the Camera and power button and then reset while holding those buttons in or pull the battery out an it will say KAIS130 on a small white sticker! I hate when people spread false info!! So please be smart before you post and do some research!
Has anyone else noticed that the battery is now grounded to the phone through the 4 gold tabs under the battery hence why the back of the battery is metal. I find this very strange also look at the hermes battery compaired to the Kaiser on the Kaiser we now only have 4 connectors as opossed to the hermes 6 on the Kaiser the 6th one i was talking about is now the whole battery on the back. Open yours up and look and you will see what I mean
oh sorry, got the number mixed up, yes the battery is 160, thats what i was refering to. no idea bout 130...
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NO YOUR WRONG!!
Most Kaisers out now are KAIS130's the Battery is a KAIS160 go look at your battery if you want to know what Kaiser you have put your phone into bootoader mode by pressing and holding in the Camera and power button and then reset while holding those buttons in or pull the battery out an it will say KAIS130 on a small white sticker! I hate when people spread false info!! So please be smart before you post and do some research!
Has anyone else noticed that the battery is now grounded to the phone through the 4 gold tabs under the battery hence why the back of the battery is metal. I find this very strange also look at the hermes battery compaired to the Kaiser on the Kaiser we now only have 5 connectors as opossed to the hermes 6 on the Kaiser the 6th one i was talking about is now the whole battery on the back. Open yours up and look and you will see what I mean
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No YOU are wrong! The battery has only 4 contacts, do some research before spreading false info!! It's the truth, but I' just messing with ya
I actually started a thread about the battery and ground plate, seems that they are using it as an additional shield or ground plane. The thing to be carefull about is if buying a spare, make sure it's also got the plate.
Damn it lol... I didnt feel like pulling mine out and looking! Guess I'm getting old!
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I have the T-Mobile Vario III, and it's the KAIS130.
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Odd, I would have expected them to give it a different number because of the different front. Good info though.
perhaps the purpose of the metal back and gold contacts is to dissipate the oodles of heat the batt generates?
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Damn it lol... I didnt feel like pulling mine out and looking! Guess I'm getting old!
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lol i had to take pictures of mine with the back off and batt out so i wouldnt have to continuously open it up ha
GordonTGopher said:
From FCC docs
100: 3M camera no front camera
110: No camera
120: Both cameras
Not sure where the 130 came from
Gordon
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hm, wikipedia says something different:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN_II
so which is true? I'm asking because I'm on a quest for a Kaiser without camera (is there even one?)
Lars
TauTau said:
hm, wikipedia says something different:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN_II
so which is true? I'm asking because I'm on a quest for a Kaiser without camera (is there even one?)
Lars
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I have the non Camera version ATT Tilt NC (8900) and it shows KAIS110 under the battery.
Having just had a new Kaiser delivered with KAIS130 on it, I would suspect that it means it's the next version up... It would make sense anyway
Charge/Headphone/Sync port failed after 8 months Orange have just sent me another.
Htc kais130
TauTau said:
hm, wikipedia says something different:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN_II
so which is true? I'm asking because I'm on a quest for a Kaiser without camera (is there even one?)
Lars
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Hi There!
I am owning a HTC Kaiser 130. The Model was sold by T-Mobile Austria. I don't know, where else this type of PDA was sold.
Greetings from Austria...
Faity said:
I am owning a HTC Kaiser 130. The Model was sold by T-Mobile Austria. I don't know, where else this type of PDA was sold.
Greetings from Austria...
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Welcome to the xda-dev forum Faity and it's nice to see someone who fills in their profile correctly. The wiki now covers all of this stuff (since the original posts are from way back in 2007) so those interested can find out the differences there. The T-Mobile Austria version may be similar to the one they sell (or at least sold - not sure if it's still avail here) in the UK and other parts of Europe (although NOT the USA).
KAIS130 - KAIS160? Confused!
Hi,
I have been using a TyTN II for about a year now. All of a sudden, it has developed a problem. If a call goes on for about 4-5 minutes, the phone powers off. Even with 100% battery charge. Rebooting doesn't work as it comes to the the screen with "smart mobility" and then powers off again. Once I connect it to mains and power on, it boots properly. After such reboots, sometimes it shows the battery empty, other times, it shows it at 95-99%.
Out of curiosity, I checked the phone. I found that the battery says KAIS160 3.7V - 1350mAh. Below that, it also says 4.2V DC. On removing the battery, the body (behind the battery) says KAIS130, 5V DC, 1 A.
Does this mean I have a wrong battery? Is the reason that the phone needs 5V and 1 Amp while the battery is a 3.7V?
My apologies if this question has been answered already or if this is the wrong forum. I felt this thread would be the most apt.
Just curious who bought the ATT Tilt and who went for the more expensive HTC Kaiser and why..
(Yeah I wasn't sure to call it the Kaiser or TyTN 2 lol)
Tilt. $150 vs $600 (MOL).
Tilt 225 w/ 50 bucks back.
FYI: not to get picky....
it's Tilt or TyTN II
they are both considered a Kaiser
I got the tilt for the reason of cheaper
Tilt - got it for $50 after MIR. That was a clear winner for me....
Waited and waited and actually saw the Black Friday Ad and called up a buddy I worked with there. Plus I generally like to stay specific to AT&T equipment for whatever reason...
Tilt bc of the price ($150). Obv I would like to have the tytn 2 for the front facing camera, but its not worth $450 more.
Is the front cam the ONLY difference between the two?
Tilt for 149.99 after rebate.
ericc191 said:
Is the front cam the ONLY difference between the two?
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Thanks to this forum and the ROM and app's you can find here, that the pretty much main difference.
lol it looks like people prefer to save a couple hundred than having a front video camera
damn...comming from the uk.. i neva actually realised the tilt didnt have a front facing camera!!
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Is the front cam the ONLY difference between the two?
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Where's the Tilt made and what's the body code (KAIS***)?
Other differences are:
- the video front camera
- the colour scheme
- the package contents
- Warranty from AT&T versus HTC
- I'm not sure if the batteries are different (Samsung vs Dyna)
JwY said:
Where's the Tilt made and what's the body code (KAIS***)?
Other differences are:
- the video front camera
- the colour scheme
- the package contents
- Warranty from AT&T versus HTC
- I'm not sure if the batteries are different (Samsung vs Dyna)
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I actually like the front buttons on the TyTN 2 much better than the all chrome look on the Tilt
It was pretty easy for me. The only differences are
1. The lack of a front facing camera.
Even if you had it, you can't use it with AT&T anyways
2. The addition of lots of dumb bloatware.
Takes 20 minutes to remove, or 10 to reflash with OEM image.
3. Slightly differently colored case.
Who cares?
It wasn't nearly enough to me to consider for 1 minute paying an extra 450 or so for the Kaiser. If you have the money, and you are a perfectionist, go for the Kaiser.
the tilt is a kaiser. i think you mean TyTN II. Which is also a kaiser
kireol said:
the tilt is a kaiser. i think you mean TyTN II. Which is also a kaiser
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lol the whole TyTN 2 and Kaiser mix up must be a pet peeve of yours
ericc191 said:
lol the whole TyTN 2 and Kaiser mix up must be a pet peeve of yours
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nah, i'm just trying to correct ppl now so that future confusion happens less
In the US with AT&T, there is really no reason not to go with the Tilt:
you can't use the front camera anyway;
if you're a good customer, they'll happily provide an unlock code; and
compared to an imported TyTN II, they're a total bargain
People complain about "all the bloat." I can tell you that with a minimal amount of work, the bloat can be removed -- keeping the stock ROM -- and having an extremely stable and high-performing device.
I'm sure it will get better with the next batch of cooked roms, too...
dreboi said:
damn...comming from the uk.. i neva actually realised the tilt didnt have a front facing camera!!
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Me neither ... I thought they were the same just branded differently. I went for the Tytn II as we don't have the tilt in Sweden. Now I just need to get it in English ... I know, i'm studying the Wiki
Scarlet
ericc191 said:
I actually like the front buttons on the TyTN 2 much better than the all chrome look on the Tilt
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Me too. And I prefer the all black keyboard.
RojasTKD said:
Tilt for 149.99 after rebate.
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Where did you guys get titl for $150? I got mine for $400 (in Philadelphia) without rebate a week ago from AT&T. Even with the rebate, it was about $300.
Under device id it says 8900 not 8925. It has its camera in the back and it works.
under About it says-Version: CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)
and under Device ID HTC-8900.
Should i be concerned do you think? The only reason i ask is there is a non camera ver of the phone and i'm a little worried about a hw/sw conflict since this is a refurb replacement.
both my original and replacement tilts were identified as HTC-9800
i wouldnt be concerned
Snowreaper said:
Under device id it says 8900 not 8925. It has its camera in the back and it works.
under About it says-Version: CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)
and under Device ID HTC-8900.
Should i be concerned do you think? The only reason i ask is there is a non camera ver of the phone and i'm a little worried about a hw/sw conflict since this is a refurb replacement.
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Remove the battery and in large type you'll see the model number, which might very well be different than what the device ID says.
Thanks for posting guys. Yea under the battery it says 8925. I guess i'll just make it match then!
how would one go about getting a new tilt, even though the one i have is fine without shelling out money? My tilt is flimsy and not as stiff as out of the box like i loved.
there are ways to make it seem like it crashed,in a way which should be covered by warranty, however that idea is awful. If they catch on you have no phone. Or you can "accelerate" the breaking by doing awful things to it. Water wont work, they have a water mark which i dont think is covered by warranty.
phan10m said:
how would one go about getting a new tilt, even though the one i have is fine without shelling out money? My tilt is flimsy and not as stiff as out of the box like i loved.
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Flash it back to an original AT&T stock ROM, then call their handset repair line and tell them that the GPS chip isn't working in your phone [ie TomTom and other programs freeze when trying to access it]. Since their TeleNav software uses cell towers and not the GPS, they have no way to prove you wrong.
Maybe the 8900 has the video drives, awmygawd
Hey All,
I recently bought a brand new AT&T Tilt off ebay that has no camera. I have been trying to get the camera working, but apparently it is pointless to try. The box says it has a 3.0mp camera and everywhere else in the documentation. I contacted the seller and he claims this is some rare business edition that has the camera removed. This really sucks he advertised it saying it had the camera, I need a camera on my phone for my work.
Is this really a legit product does AT&T really make these with the cameras removed?
wilkewhaq said:
Hey All,
I recently bought a brand new AT&T Tilt off ebay that has no camera. I have been trying to get the camera working, but apparently it is pointless to try. The box says it has a 3.0mp camera and everywhere else in the documentation. I contacted the seller and he claims this is some rare business edition that has the camera removed. This really sucks he advertised it saying it had the camera, I need a camera on my phone for my work.
Is this really a legit product does AT&T really make these with the cameras removed?
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It's the 8900 model that has the camera removed. The 8925 is the Tilt with the camera on it.
Check under the battery for the model number.
The regular Tilt should show:
KAIS100
The Tilt NC (Non Camera) (8900) should show:
KAIS110
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/att-tilt-gets-further-specs-price-launch-frame-300047.php
wilkewhaq said:
Hey All,
I recently bought a brand new AT&T Tilt off ebay that has no camera. I have been trying to get the camera working, but apparently it is pointless to try. The box says it has a 3.0mp camera and everywhere else in the documentation. I contacted the seller and he claims this is some rare business edition that has the camera removed. This really sucks he advertised it saying it had the camera, I need a camera on my phone for my work.
Is this really a legit product does AT&T really make these with the cameras removed?
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Why don't you get it refunded or exchanged?
idj1975 said:
It's the 8900 model that has the camera removed. The 8925 is the Tilt with the camera on it.
Check under the battery for the model number.
The regular Tilt should show:
KAIS100
The Tilt NC (Non Camera) (8900) should show:
KAIS110
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/att-tilt-gets-further-specs-price-launch-frame-300047.php
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Along with no camera, isn't this the model they also didn't include the video drivers in?
Oh wait a minute............
Seriously , I'd talk to him then file a complaint with ebay if you get no satisfaction with Jake.......er.......the seller. Good luck
wilkewhaq said:
Hey All,
I recently bought a brand new AT&T Tilt off ebay that has no camera. I have been trying to get the camera working, but apparently it is pointless to try. The box says it has a 3.0mp camera and everywhere else in the documentation. I contacted the seller and he claims this is some rare business edition that has the camera removed. This really sucks he advertised it saying it had the camera, I need a camera on my phone for my work.
Is this really a legit product does AT&T really make these with the cameras removed?
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It might be worth a shot to contact this guy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2267058
He needs his phone to not have a camera for work. You might be able to work out a trade.
wilkewhaq said:
Hey All,
I recently bought a brand new AT&T Tilt off ebay that has no camera. I have been trying to get the camera working, but apparently it is pointless to try. The box says it has a 3.0mp camera and everywhere else in the documentation. I contacted the seller and he claims this is some rare business edition that has the camera removed. This really sucks he advertised it saying it had the camera, I need a camera on my phone for my work.
Is this really a legit product does AT&T really make these with the cameras removed?
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Does anywhere on the posting of the auction does it say has a camera or not?
The auction says must be returned within 3 days, and i've spent the last 6 trying to figure out why the camera doesn't work. He won't take it back since it has been more than 3 days. Im going to leave neg feedback but that seems pointless since ebay is getting rid of it. I guess ill have to ebay it to someone else ;(
Does the back panel have a camera hole? Shouldn't take too long to figure out why the camera doesn't work from that.
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The auction says must be returned within 3 days, and i've spent the last 6 trying to figure out why the camera doesn't work. He won't take it back since it has been more than 3 days. Im going to leave neg feedback but that seems pointless since ebay is getting rid of it. I guess ill have to ebay it to someone else ;(
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It doesn't matter if it says 3 days or 6 days to return it back. If the auction was for att tilt with the camera, then you are entailed for what was auctioned.
File a claim with eBay (Paypal) and your money will be refunded to you. You have to ship back the item on your expense.
Can you post the link to the item in question?
KOR!
I would highly recommend adding something to let the bidders know it doesn't have a camera so they don't make the same mistake you did. As you well know, just not mentioning a camera, doesn't mean they won't assume there isn't one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/H-W-UNLOCKED-AT...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I would highly recommend adding something to let the bidders know it doesn't have a camera so they don't make the same mistake you did. As you well know, just not mentioning a camera, doesn't mean they won't assume there isn't one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/H-W-UNLOCKED-AT...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Fully agree!
Not only that the listing in the above link reads:
Brand: HTC
Model: 8925
Type: Smartphone (PDA Phone)
Camera: --
Condition: --
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Since the PDA Phone is listed as Model: 8925, therefore according to the specs of the model, the PDA Phone should have a camera. Thus, the buyer can claim refund based on truth in adverting. Of course, the model: 8900, has the camera removed.
KOR!
wilkewhaq said:
Hey All,
I recently bought a brand new AT&T Tilt off ebay that has no camera. I have been trying to get the camera working, but apparently it is pointless to try. The box says it has a 3.0mp camera and everywhere else in the documentation. I contacted the seller and he claims this is some rare business edition that has the camera removed. This really sucks he advertised it saying it had the camera, I need a camera on my phone for my work.
Is this really a legit product does AT&T really make these with the cameras removed?
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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-UNLOCKED-AT...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
All over that page it says No Camera. I can understand how someone might not catch it if because you just assume all new cell phones have a camera, but to come on here and say "he advertised it saying it had the camera" is just wrong.
Check with the guy from my post #5. And I still say you should bite the bullet and say in big bold NO CAMERA if you sell it on Ebay. Do the right thing.
Good Luck,
Feedback regarding Sellers still exists
wilkewhaq said:
The auction says must be returned within 3 days, and i've spent the last 6 trying to figure out why the camera doesn't work. He won't take it back since it has been more than 3 days. Im going to leave neg feedback but that seems pointless since ebay is getting rid of it. I guess ill have to ebay it to someone else ;(
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ebay is not eliminating feedback regarding sellers, only regarding buyers, AFAIK.
holmanm said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-UNLOCKED-AT...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
All over that page it says No Camera. I can understand how someone might not catch it if because you just assume all new cell phones have a camera, but to come on here and say "he advertised it saying it had the camera" is just wrong.
Check with the guy from my post #5. And I still say you should bite the bullet and say in big bold NO CAMERA if you sell it on Ebay. Do the right thing.
Good Luck,
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I agree 100%. The auction says "This version comes without the camera." What more can the seller do? He says it in at least 3 places.
Seems negative feedback to this seller would be terribly unwarranted.
If that is the actual link to the ebay listing, you should not leave him negative feedback. It clearly states no camera. I sell quite a bit on ebay and try to list things clearly. People do make mistakes, I understand, but don't leave negative feedback for your mistake.
Jefff
Note: Seller's Brother. I am an eBay seller on eBay but I will keep who I am private if the buyer chooses to retaliate against myself as well.
I rarely go on here but my brother forwarded a message to me from a potential buyer on eBay regarding this (thank you). He has a lot of finals right now so he may leave a reply.
The listing is quite clear of there being no camera. When purchasing an item, it be good if you paid attention to the FEATURES listed.
I don't see how my brother ever fooled you into purchasing a CAMERA VERSION Tilt. If you are to spend this kind of money on a phone, it be good researching what 8900 meant when you saw everyone having the 8925 model listed in the keywords.
Yeah dude you have to read carefully. Sell it.
Aint no sympathy from me, it does clearly state that the model is without camera
Mixed messages
Yes... it does say no camera on there a couple times... but the model number also is listed as AT&T 8925... not AT&T 8900... so overall mixed messages. I could see this either way. The buyer should have requested more info though prior to buying.
Ebay said:
This one is Europe/Asia model, it may not work with 850mhz in US, please note that if you buy it and it doesn't work we will not be responsible. It will work with any other GSM in US only for AT&T 850mhz it may not work. It is your responsibility to make sure your carrier will accept this gsm frequency . we don't issue refunds for no connects .
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320259682574
I hope he doesn't post on here in a while that he was sold a phone advertised to work in North America and it doesn't.
Greetings
I just bought a TyTN II from ebay.. I thought it would be a nice addition to my ever so small collection of PDA's, and it was relatively cheap.
Here's the link (remove spaces):
ht tp://c gi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260569169356#ht_3409wt_1276
Now, the seller claims it to be 100% oem, but I'm not completely sure.. In case it's a knockoff, I'll use Paypal to get my refund
So my question is, what do you guys think? is this the real deal, or just another fake TyTN II? I've heard about the knockoffs, but I havn't seen anyone.
You call that cheap? That's the real deal though.
yeah well, it's about 1/4 of retail price back in the days it's not too bad for nice little gadget like that
the auction doesn't display any photos of the actual phone, but I'm pretty confident that it's a legit OEM phone by the description, price and the claims made by the seller that it's "100% brand new & genuine or money return", even though it ships from HONG KONG
Anyway, what would a knockoff be like? and what's the price for one of those? What would one look for, in order to spot the knockoffs?
Cheers
Sorry for bumping this thread, but can anyone else confirm this is the real deal, so I can have some peace of mind?
Show us some real picks of it and we will tell you 100%
We know about this phone not the knock off's. If it doesn't look like the one in the pics then it's not what it says it is. It's a 3 year old phone, I wouldn't worry so much about knock off's.
Well, that would be like getting a picture from e.g t-mobile of the specific device you're gonna order. The seller is a powerseller with several (10+ in description) htc tytn II's.. When I ask him he keeps reassuring me that the phone is as described with official specs and pics from HTC and that it's 100 % brand new & genuine.
Would you feel good about this, or would you prepare for a full refund?
Well, I just got my Kaiser Eventhough it's a KAIS100, it has a front camera in addition to the rear-facing one. HTC could confirm it was the real deal, but... i think about the ONLY thing OEM in the package was the phone.... There were 3 chargers in the package (none of which fit !!!!) and i'm not too sure about the battery which said DynaPack on the outer side, and had å chrome-like inner side.
and btw, the battery is behaving weird. the phone takes a very long time to charge. lets say i have 50% battery, and i start charging for 30 min, and i end up with 55% battery.. then i reset my phone, and upon boot i all of a sudden have 82% (for instance)... i don't know if it's just old, or fake..
hanskl said:
Well, I just got my Kaiser Eventhough it's a KAIS100, it has a front camera in addition to the rear-facing one. HTC could confirm it was the real deal, but... i think about the ONLY thing OEM in the package was the phone.... There were 3 chargers in the package (none of which fit !!!!) and i'm not too sure about the battery which said DynaPack on the outer side, and had å chrome-like inner side.
and btw, the battery is behaving weird. the phone takes a very long time to charge. lets say i have 50% battery, and i start charging for 30 min, and i end up with 55% battery.. then i reset my phone, and upon boot i all of a sudden have 82% (for instance)... i don't know if it's just old, or fake..
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I have had three batteries so far for my Kaiser. One was the " chrome type " back, that was the original and the other two were cheap replacement batteries that were all black except for the terminals. They all worked the same.
I would just buy a new battery , seeing as the phone is new to you. Might as well start out with a new battery too.. If HTC ran the serial number and says the phone is legit, I wouldn't worry about wether it is real or not.
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What he said.
Well, it seems its actually a modified AT&T Tilt with a added front camera. Void seals were broken, I think both front and backcover is fake, and the voicedialbutton doesn't show a image of a "speech bubble" but PTT (which seems to be used on AT&T phones)
An ATT Tilt is still a Kaiser..
papabear said:
An ATT Tilt is still a Kaiser..
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Ok, a Kaiser has a front camera, does the Tilt?
That's pretty strange, they replaced everything but the insides? The Keyboard isn't from a tilt (as far as I could tell).
ChumleyEX said:
Ok, a Kaiser has a front camera, does the Tilt?
That's pretty strange, they replaced everything but the insides? The Keyboard isn't from a tilt (as far as I could tell).
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Yeah, very strange indeed. It seems as they took a tilt, put on a front camera, changed the housing and keyboard (it's not even a wwe keyboard - it has some chinese letters and other layout on the Fn-keys) and hspl'ed the phone with the first OliP0f hspl.... Either way, after confronting the seller, he did admit that it wasn't a unlocked HTC TyTN II, because they got the best prices on these phones from carriers... He also proposed to give me a 70 USD refund, and a HTC bluetooth headset as a compensation, after i expressed my dissapointment with the phone.
Well, i'm still not sure if the battery is OEM, and also if the housing and keyboard is OEM, but i guess i'll never know for sure