This question is directed to those who have taken apart their Kaiser, and specifically screen the screen assembly. I've got water issues and the screen is broke now. Here's the story. I might get some outrageous warranty charges.
I installed the InvisiShield (www.shieldzone.com) on my phone. Essentially it's a screen protector that is indestructible. It practically is, but unfortunately it destroyed my phone. To install it you have to spray this liquid on the back of the 'shield' and apply it to your phone, using a squeegee to get the bubbles out. It went pretty well, and I was happy with the results, but 3 days later my screen stopped working.
Everything is washed out, and it looks like water got inside the LCD somehow. For instance, colors streak across the LCD in fonts, etc.
I called ATT and they are mailing a replacement, and I'll be expected to send this phone back. They said if the return phone has damage that would void warranty (water damage, etc) I'll be prorated $400 on my next bill.
Over the phone the customer representative had me remove the battery and check one of the water damage pads to make sure it was white. It is.
For those who have seen internal phone assembly, is there any of these directly by the screen that will pick up moisture?
As far as ATT knows, the phone LCD suddenly stopped working. I'll get a replacement and /hopefully/ theres not a moisture pad right next to the LCD assembly. Anyone know?
Damn, hate those broken screen story's. Scars the **** out of me.
jon_k said:
This question is directed to those who have taken apart their Kaiser, and specifically screen the screen assembly. I've got water issues and the screen is broke now. Here's the story. I might get some outrageous warranty charges.
I installed the InvisiShield (www.shieldzone.com) on my phone. Essentially it's a screen protector that is indestructible. It practically is, but unfortunately it destroyed my phone. To install it you have to spray this liquid on the back of the 'shield' and apply it to your phone, using a squeegee to get the bubbles out. It went pretty well, and I was happy with the results, but 3 days later my screen stopped working.
Everything is washed out, and it looks like water got inside the LCD somehow. For instance, colors streak across the LCD in fonts, etc.
I called ATT and they are mailing a replacement, and I'll be expected to send this phone back. They said if the return phone has damage that would void warranty (water damage, etc) I'll be prorated $400 on my next bill.
Over the phone the customer representative had me remove the battery and check one of the water damage pads to make sure it was white. It is.
For those who have seen internal phone assembly, is there any of these directly by the screen that will pick up moisture?
As far as ATT knows, the phone LCD suddenly stopped working. I'll get a replacement and /hopefully/ theres not a moisture pad right next to the LCD assembly. Anyone know?
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I dont know but man I hope that there isn't. Have you tried contacting invisishield? Never mind, b/c they'll blame you. Most applicators like that use alcohol to evaporate the remaining moisture that's left. My friend applied it to his, and he used very little liquid(scared), so GOOD LUCK!! I MEAN IT
Tough break, sounds dangerous to pour liquid on the screen though !
On a related matter has anyone seen pics of a Kaiser pulled apart ? Still wondering where the GPS antenna is located !
Yeah, I hope I don't get shafted.
I love the invisibleshield, and I put one on my $1,500 DSLR camera screen, but since the Kaiser screen is recessed a bit, when you squeegee the solution out from under the screen, it cannot be wiped away. It just gets pushed out between the phone's body bezel, and the screen glass -- right in to the phone. With my DSLR camera, the screen is flush with the body, so when squeegee'd I could quickly wipe the water/alcohol away.
Contacting Invisibleshield got me:
Our liability does not extend beyond our product. The lifetime warranty only covers the replacement of the invisibleSHIELD and NOT a warranty for the device the shield is protecting.
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If ATT charges me the $400 if they find out, I guess I'll pay it. It's my fault, but by extension of invisibleshield. Guess I'll learn not to use that product on anything that has a recessed screen. I was thinking of buying an invisible shield for my laptop as well, but it's screen is slightly recessed like the kaiser, so you can forget me doing that!
xmoo said:
Damn, hate those broken screen story's. Scars the **** out of me.
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That was why I bought the 'best screen shield on the market' for scratches (invisibleshield). Coincidentally that was the demise of my phone. I also purchased a steel case that basically would let me sit on my phone (uncomfortably) if i wanted. The desire to protect my phone, did the opposite in my case.
Wow what a horror story. Thanks for sharing with us - may prevent another phone from dying.
Wondering if you remove the battery and not using for a few days until the water dries out before turning it on?
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Wow what a horror story. Thanks for sharing with us - may prevent another phone from dying.
Wondering if you remove the battery and not using for a few days until the water dries out before turning it on?
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Could be, zcink. The replacement phone is on it's way. I can remove the battery during this time it takes for the replacement to come and see what happens. Unfortunately, I think one of the following has happened:
1) Water seeped between the LCD protetcive glass, and the LCD itself, and somehow soaked in to the LCD causing mini shorts -- thus resulting in kludged text.
2) Water seeped to the phone's connecting cable where the screen input is, dried on the wires, thus creating a short -- destroying the signal.
Either way, when the liquid dry's, the mineral deposits causing the short will still exist, still causing a short. For both, repair requires disassembly, voiding my warranty. I could buy a new replacement screen from the China place for about $100, but if ATT /might/ replace it without screwing me, I'll take the chance. Just wanted to know what my chances /were/ them finding out it's got water in it.
I guess the moral is.
Don't buy from InvisibleShield, unless you use a SPARING amount of spray they they include. They include a huge bottle, and I used 2 sprays worth applied to my shield. This created enough excess to be squeegeed right into my phones body. The phone worked great for a few days, until one day at work, while I was using it -- BAM -- the screen was dead.
There isn't the water dectector there, but I'm pretty sure the technicians would notice the damaged screen.
I know those screen protectors, used them for alot of things. Using one right now actully. Its the one you wash with soap and warm water, and just let it dry, it have a static adhesive to the the scree.
I see. yeah hopefully the ATT tech will be lazy and just grant you the warranty without investigating. just play dumb. If they charge you the $400 call them up and threaten to switch to T-Mobile.
My phone died and T-Mobile was going to do nothing until I threatened to switch to ATT, then they replaced it.
I seriously doubt that they will be able to tell unless you really soaked it, next time use a dry screen protector, they work just fine, no bubbles. The only moisture sensor is on the battery, and if it was a tiny amount of moisture, there's likely no signs in the screen assembly. AT&T isn't likely going to dissect the screen to check.
Kaiser disassembly howto
I have found this one somewhere here, can't remember where... Hope this helps.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ly2msnybhb
Hadn't heard of that screen protector before, guess it would work well on an HTC Touch, not sure how the "full body" version works though!
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I have found this one somewhere here, can't remember where... Hope this helps.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ly2msnybhb
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Amazing find. Thanks!
It appears to me that the screen itself is it's own modular unit. Meaning, after phone disassembly, you'd have to disassemble the actual screen itself. Further, there is no moisture indicators directly by the assembly it seems.
Knock on wood, but I'd hope a tech wouldn't go that far to determine the fault of the phone. I assume they would if theres telltale signs of water damage to the display (streaking might be a common sign.) But, maybe, just maybe, they won't.
http://www.gpspassion.com/download/HTC_Kaiser_disassembly.pdf
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RemE said:
The only moisture sensor is on the battery
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The service manual shows 4 of them, one under the battery that can be seen from the outside, one at the top and one at the bottom of the mainboard's other side, and.. one on the board that holds the bottom front panel switches, so very close to the LCD.
Personally I wouldn't have asked for a replacement phone, I'd have disassembled the phone and tried to clean it if made dirty by the liquid, bought a spare screen off ebay if it was definitely dead, and if ultimately it didn't work bought another phone off ebay for less than $400. But maybe I like risk
Here, Perfect for what you need, used it myself: http://www.mindsofwisemen.com/fileso/other/ReplacingTheLCDonaKaiser.pdf
Best wishes
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Not sure if the above noted guide is officially and with permission uploaded to that site, but to give credit to members here it is (SKDVR’s Adaption of Tony Chen’s guide)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2247685&postcount=19
i took mine apart to replace the screen; pics and info on what i did and where i got it. didn't see any water indicators near the screen when i did it, didn't think to look...
Keyboard membrane removal.
So, I've had trouble with my keyboard lately and wanted to just clean off the contacts on the membrane...but I can't seem to get the damned thing out of the plastic keyboard Middle Housing.
I have gotten everything apart so the housing is separated. Verified that I did it the way the service manual says...but i saw NOTHING about how to disassemble the keyboard from the housing.
PLZ! Pictures are good.
Try replacing digitizer screen
found that digitizer screen is above lcd and can be purcased for about $10 on ebay
hello guys,
my tytn II cant detect simcard saying the simcard is missing.
Any idea whats wrong???
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Hello all, while drunk at the beach this weekend I accidentally went into the water with my Touch Diamond in my pocket... stupid... I know, did I mention I was drunk? Anyways, the current issue at hand is what to do with my screwed up cell phone.
I took the backing, battery and SIM card out of the phone and let it dry out as much as I could since the weekend. When I turned it on this morning, the "smart mobility" text appears for a few seconds, but the phone shuts off shortly after that. Do batteries usually break from water damage, as well?
If anyone has any advice for me I would greatly appreciate it. Does anyone know of a legit place that can repair this? Is there anything I can do to try and remedy this problem? Or would you recommend I just sell/ditch this one and get a new phone? Thanks a lot.
Have you tried charging the battery? that might explain it only booting for a second, the other explanation is that it's fried the ROM chips and only the bootloader works.
It's not looking good, is it under warranty?
Disassemble your Diamond completely (manual floating around somewhere in this forum), clean all pieces using one of these isopropanol-brush-thingies, reassemble, turn it on - and pray. Any year - a new battery might be a good idea. No promises on anything of that though. The diamond is a very integrated piece of technology and you might have short-circuited something on one of the PCBs really. No guarantee that everything will work as usual even if the device comes up as well.
Warranty seems to be out of the question - I guess virtually any repair center will notice residue of loads of salt water on the first look inside...
That's true, I meant to say insurance, heh.
Strip it down Salt water is very and I mean very corrosive ! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing this . Waranty repair will be expensive.
Clean with an alchol based cleaner as advised but you must ensure you get all the salt out. To see it boot means that the screen has survived ( Amazed by this ) .
Best of luck , oh and if it does not work are you insured for accidental damage on personal items on your household insurance. This could be the next route
I have the same problem with my Tytn 2. It got wet during the "Oranje" Party in Basel, when the firemen were "cooling" down the fans...
It boots..but as soon as it has booted, you here a lot of "bling..bling..bling.." and it shuts down.. the batterie doesn't charge..
You recommend to open and clean it with alcool? Actually I'm not sure if it was washed by the firemen or by my own alcool .ehhehe..
I have a Diamond now, but if I get it back to work, I would sell it on ebay.
Regards
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Warranty seems to be out of the question - I guess virtually any repair center will notice residue of loads of salt water on the first look inside...
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There is a watersensor inside the diamond. They'll notice that the device has been in the water.
wardy said:
Strip it down Salt water is very and I mean very corrosive ! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing this . Waranty repair will be expensive.
Clean with an alchol based cleaner as advised but you must ensure you get all the salt out. To see it boot means that the screen has survived ( Amazed by this ) .
Best of luck , oh and if it does not work are you insured for accidental damage on personal items on your household insurance. This could be the next route
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Luckily I was at lake Michigan in Chicago (fresh water), for whatever that's worth, so I'm not really worried about salt corroding anything away. I bought it off eBay unlocked, I did buy insurance but, naturally, I'm pretty sure that this water damage won't be covered.
Sounds like taking it apart and cleaning it might be my best bet. Do you guys think that any cell phone repair place would be able to help me out? Anyone know of a good cell phone repair shop (in the U.S.)? Thanks for the help thus far guys, I really appreciate it
Firstly remove the battery and SIM, please do not try to power up or charge again as you might have already damaged it beyond repair.
Isopropanol or IPA is what you need (100% Alcohol), you can get this from your local chemist for about £5 a bottle.
You need to strip your phone down completely and use an anti static PCB brush to clean the whole lot (Buy it from Maplin), submerge it in a plate of IPA (excluding the screen) while cleaning. As for the warranty sticker remove this by first heating with a hair drier, then uing a Stanley knife point to remove it.
Once it’s all been cleaned and dried in air, re-assemble and power up. If it fails to work take it back for a warranty replacement. As the warranty sticker is intact, and all the evidence of water damage will have been removed, they should replace it for you without a problem.
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Luckily I was at lake Michigan in Chicago (fresh water), for whatever that's worth, so I'm not really worried about salt corroding anything away. I bought it off eBay unlocked, I did buy insurance but, naturally, I'm pretty sure that this water damage won't be covered.
Sounds like taking it apart and cleaning it might be my best bet. Do you guys think that any cell phone repair place would be able to help me out? Anyone know of a good cell phone repair shop (in the U.S.)? Thanks for the help thus far guys, I really appreciate it
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Pretty sure? I would check if I was you before doing anything else with it. If insurance doesnt cover water damage, what does it cover? Phone insurance is so expensive i thought they covered everything like theft and accidental damage, I thought the idea was a warranty wont cover you if you break the phone but insurance will.
I'm thinking it may be an idea to check before you do anything else so they dont say "Well we cover water damage, but now youve taken apart the phone we cant cover you"
Antimus said:
Have you tried charging the battery? that might explain it only booting for a second, the other explanation is that it's fried the ROM chips and only the bootloader works.
It's not looking good, is it under warranty?
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Seriously you are not hoping warranty will cover "swimming with the diamond"...
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all the evidence of water damage will have been removed, they should replace it for you without a problem.
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All the evidence, that is, apart from the water-sensitive tab which I am assuming you didn't know about...? (behind the tab for attaching a strap)
Mathew
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Seriously you are not hoping warranty will cover "swimming with the diamond"...
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or doese he mean "Swimming Diamond" ... Is that a new feature we overlocked? I think it's time for another entry in the tweaklist... *rofl*
My warranty does not cover accidental water damage, that is for sure.
I charged the battery up over the weekend and tried turning it back on, and, to my utter amazement, the phone completely powered on. I got to all of my menus and was able to use all of the programs that I opened, even the WiFi worked.
However, the functionality of the touch screen is quite screwed up. I don't know if its shorting out or what but there are basically "ghost taps" and other unintentional actions happening all the time. For example, if I were to just leave it at the home screen it would eventually scroll to another menu, open the start pull-down menu, automatically open the calendar and start doing random ****, etc.
Does anyone know how to fix the touch screen or have any ideas on how to replace one? I have a faint hope that this thing might not be beyond saving.. thanks a lot people
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Does anyone know how to fix the touch screen or have any ideas on how to replace one? I have a faint hope that this thing might not be beyond saving.. thanks a lot people
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Maybe try to re-calibrate the touch screen?
Don't give up hope, sometimes these things can take days, even weeks to fully dry and become functional. My mom had a sony ericsson somethingorother that she loved, dropped in the tub, didn't work for like a month or more... She'd check it every week or so to see, and slowly the features started coming back... Little by little, more and more buttons would respond (without activating 2 or 3 at a time). Well, long story short (too late?) works 100% now. I don't think water damage is a reparable occurrence, but DON'T sell your Diamond for parts or anything like that, keep it around and check back periodically. Best of luck.
there is a little white sticker onto the battery.
If it goes RED it shows HTC that the Phone/Battery went into the water.
This allows HTC to avoid repair "sunk" phones
deuillevent said:
there is a little white sticker onto the battery.
If it goes RED it shows HTC that the Phone/Battery went into the water.
This allows HTC to avoid repair "sunk" phones
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Should also be one on the phone... If not, there's your solution. New battery + deny any water damage = Free replacement.
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Should also be one on the phone... If not, there's your solution. New battery + deny any water damage = Free replacement.
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Haha you're all over it... Yeah, I had a feeling they'd have something in the phone, they'd never make it THAT easy.
My HTC Hero has a broken touch screen and LCD screen.
Can anyone suggest a cheap place to get them from?
And if anyone is wondering how it broke, I ran it over with my van.
Not intentionally of course.
Phone is from Alltel so it would be $95 to claim it on insurance
Also does anyone have any suggestions what I can put on the screen until I can replace it? It's rough on the fingers to use because of the cracks.
EBAY
Yup eBay has every spare part you would want for your Hero. I just ordered a digitizer yesterday (thats your screen), and that all you need to replace if behind the broken digitizer is a clear picture on your lcd.
This has happened to me twice. I got replacement on ebay for 30 dollars. It includes the whole front panel, touch screen digitizer, and lcd screen. It took me 5 minutes to replace. Just a couple of screws and a connector. Easy Peasy!
I dropped my hero yesterday as well. There was no damage to the screen/ LCD but there are a few scratches to the body. Are there replacements for that as well?
Supposedly sprint will fix any physical damages to the phone, as long as it still works.
supposed to do it for $35 in store without the $7 protection plan.
http://bit.ly/g5RfAB < Goes to the repair part of sprint's website.
I haven't tried it, so let us know if they will fix it.
I was quoted $35 by two different sprint stores to replace my screen. Still haven't fixed it yet, it is only a small crack in the corner and doesn't bug me that much.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
CraigCraig said:
My HTC Hero has a broken touch screen and LCD screen.
Can anyone suggest a cheap place to get them from?
And if anyone is wondering how it broke, I ran it over with my van.
Not intentionally of course.
Phone is from Alltel so it would be $95 to claim it on insurance
Also does anyone have any suggestions what I can put on the screen until I can replace it? It's rough on the fingers to use because of the cracks.
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Put regular tape over it
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HERO-OEM-LC...919428?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f057b8004
I bought that before..include LCD, Digitizer, and Front Bezel. The bezel was scuffed up and had a few nicks but the digitizer and LCD were in perfect condition.
Don't try that at home
Based on personal experience
I strongly advise against attempting a DIY screen replacement.
Here's my sad story:
1) I dropped my poor little hero, then managed to step on it screen down, completely scratching the entire screen surface.
2) I went on eBay and spent about $40 for a replacement screen/digitizer kit.
3) The kit arrived 10 days later. Very nice package - appeared to be high quality.
4) I followed the directions to the letter. (fwiw I'm generally pretty skilled at this sort of repair stuff, and have repaired other phones and computers with good results).
5) My little hero is no more. It works like crap. None of the buttons work correctly. The trackball no longer works consistently. It's essentially unusable (except maybe as a backup storage device).
If any good can come of this, perhaps it will be that others will read my sad tale and avoid a similar fate!
Yours,
Jim
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Based on personal experience
I strongly advise against attempting a DIY screen replacement.
Here's my sad story:
1) I dropped my poor little hero, then managed to step on it screen down, completely scratching the entire screen surface.
2) I went on eBay and spent about $40 for a replacement screen/digitizer kit.
3) The kit arrived 10 days later. Very nice package - appeared to be high quality.
4) I followed the directions to the letter. (fwiw I'm generally pretty skilled at this sort of repair stuff, and have repaired other phones and computers with good results).
5) My little hero is no more. It works like crap. None of the buttons work correctly. The trackball no longer works consistently. It's essentially unusable (except maybe as a backup storage device).
If any good can come of this, perhaps it will be that others will read my sad tale and avoid a similar fate!
Yours,
Jim
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When you stepped on it it probably damaged the motherboard or some other part because the digitizer doesn't really have anything to do with the trackball.
You do have to make sure the trackball housing is inserted correctly in the new bezel. Also, do not overtighten the screws on the bottom or the buttons work wonky. I just tightened them a little, checked, and made sure I didn't over tighten.
Hi everyone,
I have a relative with a TAB S2 9.7 that has a cracked screen. The user is quite disappointed with it since it wasn't dropped. She can't recall even hitting it against anything and wonders how it could have happened. The curious part is that she says the screen looked normal, but cracked when she put one of those pens with a soft rubber tip on it (she usually uses those to keep the screen free from smudges)
The screen has some spiderweb cracks centered in a point, so my theory is that perhaps she had it in a bag or something and pressure from a pointy item damaged it, slowly cracking util the light pressure from the pen made it obvious. It's always in a sleeve, but it's a fairly soft sleeve so maybe that was the case. The other possibility would me some sort of manufacturing defect making it crack, but I haven't heard of that before.
This is a person who doesn't have much money and tool really good care of the Tab, I've seen her handle the thing as if it was a precious item given the effort it took to buy it so I feel really bad about it. It's that look of disappointment of the kid who just dropped his icecream ball and cannot afford another.
The OLED panel seems to work perfectly, touch sensitivity is normal, etc. Seems to be just the thin top glass layer. I found the part for around 22 Eur, but installing seems complex. I'm sure I can't pull it off.
Anyone has any suggestions on how to have it fixed? Also, on how it could have happened without drops or obvious impacts? I was thinking about getting an S2 for myself now that prices are finally going down, but If I can't figure it out, perhaps I'll offer her a new one when I can... sigh...
Thanks
I'd just send it for repair especially if it still has warranty.
Even if it's not under warranty it may not be as expensive as you would think to repair.
Very little chance of repairing this successfully yourself unless you buy the whole lcd/touchscreen as a unit which would probably cost as much as getting it repaired.
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I'd just send it for repair especially if it still has warranty.
Even if it's not under warranty it may not be as expensive as you would think to repair.
Very little chance of repairing this successfully yourself unless you by the whole lcd/touchscreen as a unit which would probably cost as much as getting it repaired.
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In fact, you have to have a special "heat box" to soften the glue just to get the back off. That's why the first thing I did with mine was to get a GOOD screen protector. One costing over $20. NOT a cheap "film" protector. Depending upon how bad the glass is cracked, putting a good screen protector on even now, to keep the cracks from spreading, might make the tablet serviceable.
I've changed the glass digitizer on several tablet but wouldn't even attempt to on an S2.
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Depending upon how bad the glass is cracked, putting a good screen protector on even now, to keep the cracks from spreading, might make the tablet serviceable.
I've changed the glass digitizer on several tablet but wouldn't even attempt to on an S2.
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Agreed, if it's still usable put a screen protector on it.
It's what I did for my 3 year Olds tablet which he has a habit of testing newton's law of gravity with.
Definitely go for repair. My S2 screen cracked when it was propped up by its case and fell back onto the kitchen worktop, so not even dropped. I suspect it wasn't their fault at all and a screen protector would have done nothing whatsoever to prevent it.
Hi,
This is similar to the problem of screen cracked, but NOT the same problem.
My phone slip from the bed, 10 cm height, slid along the wall and fall into a very thick carpet. with Rhino-Shield on it. (https://www.evolutivelabs.com/)
The display cracked in the left-bottom corner.
I know for a fact, that every time I pushed the screen in this corner I heard some noise, like that something is not "sitting" well.
I always think, that this was the screen protector or something legit..
Now I think that this is not abuse.
I will like to hear from other users, if that happen to them.
And any thought will appreciate by me.
p.s-
The outer screen is without any scratch and normally the phone is with case-mate on it.
this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321969570376?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Thanks!
p.s 2 -
how the display can crack, but the screen not ?.
(how this possible ?)
no way, ive had the exact same thing happen on the back, i have no idea when it happened but its cracked in the corner and u can push it down
hi,
you talking about the screen (the outer glass).
I talking about the display screen.( the inner display cracked, but not the glass)
If the screen is fine and you had case mate on it so there should be no fall damage on the phone just send it to sony becouse there had to be an issue with build quality. Just say it cracked by itself. Dont send case mate cover it may not came back. Repair cost will be covered by warranty.
They tell me that the warranty do not cover this..
Maybe I will return it to Amazon.
I disappointed from Sony, because this is not abuse & It make some sounds(in the same area) before it happened..
Be1n said:
They tell me that the warranty do not cover this..
Maybe I will return it to Amazon.
I disappointed from Sony, because this is not abuse & It make some sounds(in the same area) before it happened..
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The best thing to do would be to send it in for repairs, although I'm not quite sure if they cover accidental damages such as what happened with your phone. Either way without warranty's coverage it might cost quite a bit of cash to get it repaired. If the crack is negligible then I suggest using the phone for now, saving up for a new device would be more practical.
Good luck
So I like just about everything about the Sony Z compact line of phones but durability wise I have been unlucky. My first Z3 compact died from water damage and my 2nd one has a screen that is ready to fall off the device.
I choose to buy a HTC U11 to replace my Z3 compact as I have never owned a HTC phone before and thought I would try something different.
What I would like to ask here though is it worth trying to fix the Z3 compact to sell or not?
The only way to protect this phone:
The phone bends 0.1mm causes the phone screen to start opening. So it's not suitable for jeans pockets.
I remedied this by using an anodized aluminium bumper and tempered glass both sides.
Sony does a very bad repair of it's phones, and the issues will return, and their parts are expensive.
It is better to do it yourself and use B7000 glue, use plenty, easily removable for future repairs, no heat, clothes pegs, wait 48 hours before removing pegs or turning on the phone. And look for the best grade of screen with frame, Sony uses two manufacturers for its screens.
My Z3C has a screen that is lifting. This thread and others seem to indicate that fixing the screen is not hard but hardware is not my thing at all...
Would a phone repair place (in a shopping centre) be able to do this kind of repair? Is the phone much different to other phones that people would take in for screen replacements?
I don't care about the loss of waterproofing. The screen isn't even falling out, just lifted in the corner. I don't want to send the phone anywhere and be without it, or have it come back changed in unexpected ways...
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My Z3C has a screen that is lifting. This thread and others seem to indicate that fixing the screen is not hard but hardware is not my thing at all...
Would a phone repair place (in a shopping centre) be able to do this kind of repair? Is the phone much different to other phones that people would take in for screen replacements?
I don't care about the loss of waterproofing. The screen isn't even falling out, just lifted in the corner. I don't want to send the phone anywhere and be without it, or have it come back changed in unexpected ways...
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Phone shops including Sony themselves have difficulty in repairing this particular phone, I think any phone shop can do this repair, but, they must use the B7000 glue or similar, or silicone, and not the red tape they usually use, it's useless, as this phone can heat up, or the blue z3c ready cut tape is not so good either. And if you get the wrong screen (clone), the colours will not be as good.
Many phone repairers have the clone screens that are thicker than the original.
The screen sometimes is actually bent, along with the body, check on a flat surface.
Always buy a good screen together attached with the body, and never by itself.
So armed with this knowledge and or hardware, you could go talk with a phone repairer... The first 3 times, shop, but maybe the fourth repair, try doing it yourself, it's as easy as opening a PC, just smaller, just follow z3c repair guides and youtube, when you're ready. When attempting to repair the phone, for the very first time, do it over hours, maybe over the weekend, and not one sitting.
If you start loosing patience, leave it for a while etc.
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I got so comfortable with opening my phone, I put extra 0.3mm copper plates on the processor and gpu with Cooler Master Extreme Fusion paste etc. Lol.
But it's good to have an already damaged motherboard to work on.
Z3C LOS Omni Oreo
My screen is still working fine. Just lifting.
I do have some old phones I could practice on, assuming they have the same glass sandwich construction.
I will go look for some videos...
a1291762 said:
My screen is still working fine. Just lifting.
I do have some old phones I could practice on, assuming they have the same glass sandwich construction.
I will go look for some videos...
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Z3C LOS Omni Oreo
I put up with my screen for a long time but eventually the glue gave out and I had no choice. It was good, then bad, but ultimately ok.
I didn't have any trouble taking the glass off the first time because the glue was barely hanging on. I had a look and noticed that the headphone jack's glue was also failing. Probably why it was becoming unreliable. I glued that and reseated the screen cable and it worked fine while sitting there so I glued everything on again.
It was a poor first attempt. I had both too much glue (blobs that leaked out) and not enough to actually seal around much of the screen. No problem. I took the glass off again and glued it again. This time I followed the instructions closer and glued the front screen before connecting the ribbon.
The second gluing was good but something with the ribbon was wrong because it only worked when I pressed on the lower part of the screen. Sigh.
Taking the glass off after a good glue was much harder. I finally got the spudger under the glass but I moved it sideways before removing the suction thing. It was too much pressure for the glass. The good news is that it was the rear glass and only the bottom half shattered. I got the rest off and started on the front.
Now that I knew to be more careful, I got the front off OK. Reseat. Test and working. I glued the front on first again, without disconnecting the cable. Tested and working. I glued the half back I had on (covers the camera).
Its working!
I use a case so the back isn't even a problem, but I ordered a new back from China (cheap). The headphone Jack seems better. I put a new screen protector on. In some ways the phone is rejuvenated.
I was apparently not careful enough when taking off the screen though. I appear to have some marks on my screen now. It's minor, probably won't notice during normal use, but there if you look.
I'm so glad to have my phone back. I've been using an iPhone for the last 3 weeks.
Thanks for the tips.
Edit: The hands free speaker works again too. Bonus