Putting full blown WinMo 6 Pro on the SnapVue - Shift Development

Is it possible? The stats on HTC's site says it's got an MSM 7200 400mhz proc in addition to the Stealy proc. If that is possible I'd consider getting one.

This issue has been addressed in significant detail on this site already. As a consideration to others, please use search or review the other posts.

Yes I did eventually see that. I apologize. But it's nowhere in the "Upgrading" section.

Hi I really want one!
I´m just afraid to order one and then find out that I can´t have full WM6 on it .... (for whatever reason...)
So, Any luck yet?
Did someone find out how to install and run other programs?
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

its possible. im working with paul from modaco.com on it and this thing is locked down super tight. only hope is getting vista to see snapvue. all other ways are blocked.
i could do a rom for it if u guys want once its unlocked. unlocking full wm6 though might mean a device in my hands. im trying real hard to unlock it without one though. ask paul from modaco. working with him constantly on it and wow is this thing a pain.

Excellent - But is there an Intermediate step?
It is excellent that movement is afoot to overcome the crazy situation with SnapVue (of course I, like many Australians, still await the HTC Shift).
Of course WM6 would be excellent, but is there an intermediate step? Just getting SnapVue to talk to Outlook on Vista would probably do me fine given that my primary use for WM6 (or WM5 and older) has been outlook based ...
Oh, OK, and the use of WiFi, and the ability to look at documents and the internet would be good.
Anyway, I hope that those looking into this figure it out, as after all I never would be able to. Good luck.

pls where can i find info on upgrading to full blown win 6 for shift

ebco said:
pls where can i find info on upgrading to full blown win 6 for shift
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Well, you've come to the right place. Now all you have to do is use your eyes...

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Rom For Cingular 8125

What Is The Best And New Rom For Cingular 8125...and Best Wm6 For It
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295575
You first have to know whether you have a G3 or a G4 , you dont want to turn your 8125 into an expensive paper weight. Follow the threads in the wizard forums. Read read and read before you do anything.
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What Is The Best And New Rom For Cingular 8125...and Best Wm6 For It
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danger872 said:
What Is The Best And New Rom For Cingular 8125...and Best Wm6 For It
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Define "Best". Your definition is most likely going to be different than mine. So your needs and wants will not match mine... You need to just take the time to read and look at the options. If you want a ROM that gives you new features and pretty much works right out of the box then stay away from all of the WM6 ROMs for now and go grab Faria's AKU 3.3 (its a sticky at the top). It will setup your GPRS, MMS, and everythign and you'll pretty much be ready to rock and roll when you finish the install (beyond specific apps you use, but some of those (or similar) may already be there too). Its stable, quick and slick.
But if you want Bleeding edge, don't mind doing tweaks and dealing with odd issues, then look at the WM6 ROMs. Currently Most Beautiful Edition (MBE) is the one I run and am overall happy with it (its not perfect though and I find new odd things with it periodically). The Underground edition also seems good, and a new release is supposed to be coming. Also, the Hermes XDA Live ROM is supposed to be being ported and could show up at any time (and from what I've read, that is a really nice ROM on the Hermes, so hopefully will be as good for us on the Wizard).
And with all that said, don't for get the various Molski ROMs out there too. I haven't tried one yet, but everyone that uses them raves about them...
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Define "Best". Your definition is most likely going to be different than mine. So your needs and wants will not match mine... You need to just take the time to read and look at the options. If you want a ROM that gives you new features and pretty much works right out of the box then stay away from all of the WM6 ROMs for now and go grab Faria's AKU 3.3 (its a sticky at the top). It will setup your GPRS, MMS, and everythign and you'll pretty much be ready to rock and roll when you finish the install (beyond specific apps you use, but some of those (or similar) may already be there too). Its stable, quick and slick.
But if you want Bleeding edge, don't mind doing tweaks and dealing with odd issues, then look at the WM6 ROMs. Currently Most Beautiful Edition (MBE) is the one I run and am overall happy with it (its not perfect though and I find new odd things with it periodically). The Underground edition also seems good, and a new release is supposed to be coming. Also, the Hermes XDA Live ROM is supposed to be being ported and could show up at any time (and from what I've read, that is a really nice ROM on the Hermes, so hopefully will be as good for us on the Wizard).
And with all that said, don't for get the various Molski ROMs out there too. I haven't tried one yet, but everyone that uses them raves about them...
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Does anybody know what is a rom that is just simply fast and has at least AKU 2.5?.... for a G3 cid unlocked device?
Much help is appreciated, and sorry for the noob questions it's just hard, i don't know...
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Does anybody know what is a rom that is just simply fast and has at least AKU 2.5?.... for a G3 cid unlocked device?
Much help is appreciated, and sorry for the noob questions it's just hard, i don't know...
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Spend some time reading and browsing the forums. The stickies at the top of this forum should be enough to answer your question.
I HAVE THE SPRINT PPC-6700
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A question I ahve for you though is with your Signature. Are you looking in the right place? Sprint 6700 is an Apache and not a Wizard
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A question I ahve for you though is with your Signature. Are you looking in the right place? Sprint 6700 is an Apache and not a Wizard
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lol sorry about that, i just switched to the htc wizzard, lol im not that of a noob!
Just wondering why you guys are not waiting until MS officially releases WM6 instead of installing this beta/pre-release? Wouldn't it be better (and cleaner) to let MS fix all the bugs and issues?
I don't know if that will happen, it depends on the carrier. They bake their own ROMs after MS does all the coding. The 8525 is out so it seems like that would get WM6 first.
I would like it to happen and look forward to it though.
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I don't know if that will happen, it depends on the carrier. They bake their own ROMs after MS does all the coding. The 8525 is out so it seems like that would get WM6 first.
I would like it to happen and look forward to it though.
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I see. Just like back when WM5 came on the scene and some carriers didn't want to offer(or sell) its customers the upgrade for their WM2003 SE devices.

Hermes to Kaiser - Hi

Hi all,
Finally did it and got myself a Kaiser. Long time Hermes user/supporter.
Im busy reading all the faq's and wiki but what do you suggest i have a look at in roms?
I know CRC's/DVTs were preferential in Hermes dont know enough about Kaiser cooks yet, although i do see a few of the older names that have moved on.
Im in Aus, and this phone is stock so im going to have to do radio as well.
Glad to meet you and hope to be an active contributor here as well.
Try them all, that's what I did... till I settled with one I personally liked. There is no risk involved once phone is completely sim/security unlocked, just time...
Mate,
Enjoy your new phone I did the same change about 6 months ago.
I am in Melbourne and have tried a big selection of the roms available.
Firstly use Kaiser Unlocker to hardspl sim/cid unlock.
Then Jumpspl to change to hardspl 3.56
My suggestion would be try the Garmin1.2 rom or version 2 if it is out when you check.
Try the radio that loads with this rom or
Change to neon 1.65.24.36
This setup works great for my location with no problems that I have noticed..
Have Fun
Thanks Halon,
My 2 specialities was Media Centers and Hermes programming. So I feel and I guess that I am back to noob status
Its great to get a point in the right direction.
Reading the Wiki's and it seems like alot more info/processes than the old Hermes.
Everyones a noob at something.
There is a lot of information here and dare I say it a lot of it can be confusing and a bit disjointed but I am sure with your previous experience with the Hermes you'll be flying real soon.
UPDATE -
Reading vast amounts of information in one night - I have configured the Kaiser with Garmin's 2 ROM!
Halon .. i have done all of your suggestions and everything is working well. (Except for MSVC which slowed down the entire ROM for some reason), Uninstalled that and I am now back to normal. Wierd.
Ill now have to see which of my heremes cabs do work and what cabs dont work ..
Im also looking forward to reading about the video card driver problem .. will have to google that thread.
Cheers all.
TEST (now with a Kaiser)
I did the switch from Hermes to Kaiser about 2 months ago, so far all of the cabs I had used on my Hermes are working on my Kaiser.
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I did the switch from Hermes to Kaiser about 2 months ago, so far all of the cabs I had used on my Hermes are working on my Kaiser.
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I think is better if u use cabs specifiec for kaizer, u can find then in signatures from Senior members or moderators,( like P1tater, Skatdawg, etc) or just ask that someone is going to point u inthe right direction.
Welcome, Test. I'm not yet switched, used both currently. Long story behind it, back then my jasjam was dropped and having the whitescreen and d-pad issues. Need months to repair it, and I need a PDA so I bought Kaiser.
Anyway, just to inform that most of my hermes cabs collection are working on kaiser. The problem is not with the device, but rather on the WM version. My experience, many apps don't run well on 6.1, like skype etc, some not even run at all. Some already have an update which works, and some doesn't.
Short, it's better to always looking for the latest stable build apps, if you can. The problem is, most of them are scattered around forums here. Not necessarily only in Kaiser forum. Good luck, mate.
p.s: yet i must admit, you're posting in a slightly incorrect forum...
Hermes to Kaiser
So, for those who made the switch. Is it worthwhile?
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So, for those who made the switch. Is it worthwhile?
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biggest waste of money i have made in a while, hermes was just as fast and did all the same things only thing the kaiser does the hermes doesn't is the screen flipping up a little which i never use any way Iphone 3rd Gen when it comes out for me or the X1experia but I need processor speed now after the slow kaiser
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biggest waste of money i have made in a while, hermes was just as fast and did all the same things only thing the kaiser does the hermes doesn't is the screen flipping up a little which i never use any way Iphone 3rd Gen when it comes out for me or the X1experia but I need processor speed now after the slow kaiser
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The problem is Qualcomm. Crappy company from the ground up.
I think there is a phone coming out that has a Marvell Chip in it. 624mhz sound good to you with a Overclocking up to 800mhz.
I have been switching back and forth between the two phones, I got to say that the Hermes is a better overall phone, I am not that impressed with the tilt whats so ever....
Hm.You sure it's not HTC who did the crapping, ATW? Not that i don't agree with you, but just want your further enlightment, sir ;-)
For me, a layman, i have heard Qualcomm for quite some time, maybe even longer than HTC (at least for brand recognition). And i heard that they held many patents on cdma technology too. Not sounds too crappy for me, is it?
I remember having discussed in general forum,Menneissys told me that some of the codes are actually optimized in msm7200 than Hermes 'outdated' samsung processor. For example in bluetoth aadp streaming. Though i must admit that the ATI Imageon on Hermes make it faster for graphic apps.
Btw, is it energy efficient to have processor running over 600mhz?
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Ohhh YES, definitely.
The best proof was when I had to send my Kaiser for repair, going back to the Hermes was awful. Such a slow brick, I simply hard reset it and left it with nothing installed at all and was using it as a phone only, couldn't bear fiddling with it after having had the Kaiser for a moment. Even that way it was 2-3x slower than the Kaiser.
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biggest waste of money i have made in a while, hermes was just as fast and did all the same things only thing the kaiser does the hermes doesn't is the screen flipping up a little which i never use any way
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My kaiser is twice as fast as my hermes was... and far more stable. Shame your one didn't seem to come with GPS.....
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For me, a layman, i have heard Qualcomm for quite some time, maybe even longer than HTC (at least for brand recognition). And i heard that they held many patents on cdma technology too. Not sounds too crappy for me, is it?
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I'm very happy that Qualcomm holds patents in CDMA, but what does that have to do with performance of a chip?
Let's just put it this way. Marvell used to be a Intel company. I much rather put my money / faith in a company that is the #1 producer of chips.
My Samsung 400mhz chip gave me better performance. Heck my TI OMAP 250mhz was just as good as this Qualcomm crap!
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Btw, is it energy efficient to have processor running over 600mhz?
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It is when the chip is smaller and requires less energy to run. I'm not sure what the nm is on the Marvell chip but I know that the talk time will be increased by over 2 hours which is a pretty significant improvement by up to 50%. How's that for energy efficient?
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My kaiser is twice as fast as my hermes was... and far more stable. Shame your one didn't seem to come with GPS.....
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o yea? My Hermes has not had even one reset running V3G's rom, yet I have to do several with the Kaiser although that maybe contributed to the roms not being debugged completly....
As to the GPS, its great for those who do not spent a lot of time using it as a cell phone, try using the GPS and talking on the phone via BT and driving for a living , maybe you will see just how great and useful the GPS is... not to mention the battery life....pssfft
I use my X51v as a GPS/w a BT unit where it sits in a holder right in line of my eye sight which is also my MP3 player hooked directly into my alpine .
Oh yea how about the how the buttons are located on the Hermes vs the kaiser ? look just how close they are on the Kaiser , they missed the boat on that...the layout is very poor...
Now do not get me wrong the Kaiser is a good unit, but it is lacking in many areas.
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Oh yea how about the how the buttons are located on the Hermes vs the kaiser ?
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Yep. On the Hermes I could never use the center "enter" button without pressing 1 or 2 of the direction buttons at the same time and had to repeat my press everytime to get it right... with the Kaiser the buttons finally serve some purpose again.

Should I get an HTC Touch Diamond?

I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
please read before you bother to post
this is asked all the time....
you need to take the time to read and make up your own mind
i am more than happy with my diamond
welcome to the forum
Same here happy as a dog with my Jewel.
I believe all my fellow Forum members are 100% happy of the powerful Jewel they own.
Trust us you wont be disappointed specially after a visit to the kitchen
Im happy with mine coming from a nokia n95, ok the diamond could do with a flash and a better battery.
Other than that its all good....
There are loads of posts about this dotted over the forum, granted they are a bit of a trek to find.
It all depends on what you want to use the phone for. For my needs its great. Plays music, cameras ok, the VGA screen is really really nice and I do actually like TouchFlo 3D.
Good luck with the searching, and hope you find the answers to help you decide.
And I have to say the Diamond is the best phone ive owned, and ive had a lot of mobiles and pdas in the past. Its mainly thanks to this forum for that. So many dedicated people. Thanks xda!
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
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Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
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Well im sure it would better than the current SE phone. Heres some of the reasons why i love my diamond.
1. So many app / utils / tweaks available and very cheap to buy extra programs for it. (donations to developers are all good to!)
2. Activesyncing my phone to my pc, always been an easy task with Windows Mobile.
3. Being able to control my phone using my PC (MyMobiler - excellent little program)
4. The Small size of the phone, it really is very small! Easy to use one handed
5. Screen Quality - VGA, you wonder how you coped before!
6. Easy to transfer info to and from the phone - Activesync or Removable Drive (USB Flash drive)
7. GPS - Tomtom on your mobile, excellent! Works very well
8. 4GB Storage - Plenty of space for what i need.
There are tons more! Post would be the longest on here if i kept on talking! hehe!
Here's my 2 cents. Got my Diamond yesterday, loved it, it look so wonderful. Just bear in mind that I am coming from a Trinity with a fast ROM.
I started to play around with the phone for awhile and took me back to when Winduhs released that beta testing Vista. It looked nice and pretty but it was a pain to use after you've been using XP for a while.
Regardless of what i just said, i love the Diamond and I might keep it. It makes my Trinity looks like a monster but it lags too much as it is.
If support and constant updates/improvements is what you're looking for, you've found the right phone. This forum is above and beyond any community I've ever seen when it comes to tweaks, ROMs, and any sort of improvement you could possibly make to your device. Just make sure to read all directions and pay attention closely, a lot of these things can turn your beautiful Diamond into a $700 brick.
Mainly because it's a tool which simplifies my work/life...not a mere toy to be shown on saturday evening (any reference is casual )
But in any case those are all personal opinions, I think you should make your own considerations and evalutions of a product before to buy that or another.
Be a subject talking about an object, not viceversa
Got mine last Thursday on Vodafone... it was nice, but a little laggy, then I updated it with a cooked ROM (swiftBL I think it was) and its a little beast now! Best phone ever!
Trying to get TomTom 7 on it at the mo.
For my first WinMo (coming from a Motorola KRZR) its just superb! And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
Get one and never look back!
Please don't be a fanboy!
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And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
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Someone who reads the directions and finds it easy to do, without asking 500 times how to flash a ROM?
Edited to maintain my reputation of not being gay. Hah.
Jon12345 said:
I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
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If you have no problem to spend some extra money in missed calls, in general is a good toy.
THERE IS A UNSOLVED BUG WITH THE PHONE ON SCEEN BUTTONS. Every time when you receive a call and put it out of the pouch you answer or loose the call automatically. This is a bull****.
Just use the Diamond tweak tool thingy and I can see vast improvements already, you guys don't mess around huh? I want my diamond to perform, i have a bad habit of using my phone while driving, which is a bit hard to do on a touchscreen. I think my Diamond is almost there.
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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Just be cautious in whatever you do, and make sure you don't brick it... Whatever you do, as long as it's done correctly, can be reversed later on. Original SPL, original ROM, 100% warranty okay. But hey, if you're happy with the performance now, leave well enough alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Thanks for the heads up, I figured that if everyone is trying to get a diamond ROM why should I do anything, except for tweaking it of course.
I was surprised to see that the ROM I have on my Trinity isn't the same as the real thing. It works, and works well and that is all that matters.

Time for some Imagio unlocking and roms!

I just bought an Imagio and will have it tomorrow. We need to get this forum rollin
im a big supporter of NFSFAN's roms after using his rom on my VZW TP and I hope he decides to whip something up for our phones !
Did anyone decide to give the mobile tv a shot? Looks like the kickstand on this phone was made for it
agree with the custom roms, man what do we need to get this goin? im really lookin foward to the coverflow on the new version of tf3d, oh and mobile tv works really well just needs more variety...
I just got mine this morning and am already having flash anxiety. I am used to flash my own cooked omnia roms with close to nothing on them. there is so much stuff on this phone that i don't want, thanks VZW.
So if we are able to get a Hard spl unlock we should be able to use any topaz kitchen as long as we use our OEM right?
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I just got mine this morning and am already having flash anxiety.
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LOL I know what you mean. I haven't even finished cleaning up from unboxing, don't have all my traditional apps on and tested yet and I stop by to see what's cooking in the kitchens already!
I am looking forward to using the phone though. I already seems much better than my Touch Pro.
Ditto here, I just ordered the Imagio today, and already wanted to see what was going on with ROMs lol.
I am wondering if anyone has contacted cmonex on weather or not she has considered helping us out with the HSPL. I am getting my phone in the Morning and I really hope we dont have to wait long. I will be around to help out with what ever I can.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91525
There is a HardSPL placeholder thread now.
tethering to laptop
Hey all! Anyone know if/how you can tether to a laptop for use as a modem.. Kinda need it..
Imagio can tether
Yup, works great tethered, just go get PdaNet from June Fabics dot com.
Lets, go.
We desperately need to kick it up a few notches. Although I love my imagio there are so many good devices coming out that we need software and features fast. We have an ass load of potential we need this hspl so desperately I hope its coming along. I will donate the hell out of good developers.
Some things I've been thinking of.
We need to make this bad boy use motion commands, implement g-trigger or something similar cooked in.
We need to implement TFLO 3D Build 1920 and tweak it to run fast.
We need the a rom that runs stock, with only tflo running, to be at less than 40% of resources.
We need to be able to read and use 32gb storage cards.
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We desperately need to kick it up a few notches. Although I love my imagio there are so many good devices coming out that we need software and features fast. We have an ass load of potential we need this hspl so desperately I hope its coming along. I will donate the hell out of good developers.
Some things I've been thinking of.
We need to make this bad boy use motion commands, implement g-trigger or something similar cooked in.
We need to implement TFLO 3D Build 1920 and tweak it to run fast.
We need the a rom that runs stock, with only tflo running, to be at less than 40% of resources.
We need to be able to read and use 32gb storage cards.
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haha.. well said!! it's weird because i don't ever remember a hspl taking this long.. is it because there's something new with the imagio? like some new technology that nobody's worked with yet??
Well, according to another user somewhere that contacted HTC they said that it was a unique device to Verizon so it could be that some time is needed before they can get this one hacked.
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Well, according to another user somewhere that contacted HTC they said that it was a unique device to Verizon so it could be that some time is needed before they can get this one hacked.
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Yeah, I'm sure!
Yes, we need it. But what we can do is waitting
Well the folks at pccgeeks have posted instructions to unlock the CDMA Touch Pro 2... My understanding is that the Imagio is a "variant" of the CDMA TP2... maybe we'll see a ROM and SIM unlock for the Imagio in the not too distant future.
I'm sure when sprint gets the diamond2 (whitestone) hspl will come very shortly after. Should be next month, thought it might be November 1st, but I haven't heard anything. But is guaranteed to be here within Q4 this year.
For the 18 millionth time, the Whitestone is not the Topaz (Diamond2)!
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For the 18 millionth time, the Whitestone is not the Topaz (Diamond2)!
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why 18, kebero??
no. I realize that but according to phone arena and a local sprint rep their diamond 2 is the whitestone. so chill.
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I am wondering if anyone has contacted cmonex on weather or not she has considered helping us out with the HSPL. I am getting my phone in the Morning and I really hope we dont have to wait long. I will be around to help out with what ever I can.
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I have heard that she is working on it as we speak and should have something in a reasonably short time.

Quick question about 'OEM' product.

First of all Hello everyone, I'm Luke and I'm pretty new to the windows mobile scene.
I've wanted a windows mobile phone for a few years now however price tags were not so appealing to me, but now I've purchased my first windows phone and it should be arriving tomorrow or within the next few days. It also seems that I've bought one at a good time as I'm happy to see a lot of development going on for 6.1/6.5 which is awesome - I like playing around with gadgets more than actually using them.
But here is the catch, whilst I've posted this in the HTC TD2 section here, the phone I've bought isn't actually a TD2. At least not an official one. It's one of the Chinese models found on eBay. I don't want a moral debate going on here - it was a bargain and it's my first step into using a Windows phone which I'm looking forward to for a decent price. It looks like a TD2 and the seller has claimed it is 'OEM Produce' however I don't believe him really.
What I wanted to ask was how will I go about flashing, updating, installing ROM's and the such on this phone? Will it be more than enough to follow instructions for a standard TD2? I hope someone here who understands hardware device and such will be able to clear that up for me.
The phone is using the same processor as the original TD2, and has the same resolution etc. Not sure if it has the same amount of ROM/RAM however it's being shipped with WM 6.1 so it has enough I presume. Are there any other hardware differences that will effect the ROM's I can use? Can I even use the same ROM's you guys are using? I don't care about the lower quality camera and less important things like that.
Thanks for any advice (sorry it was a bit long winded)
Please scroll down to see my most recent post! Thanks!
Thats is a very tricky question you are asking here.
First of all, nothing is certain or guaranteed of what you might receive there. After all, the product you receive will be a counterfeit phone, a fake trying to mock a real TD2. And as with any fake products you get the same quality issues. How do you know for sure that it has the same processor?? Just because they write it there? The same can apply to the RAM, ROM, Display etc.! It is in my opinion HIGHLY unlikely that the phone you will receive, will have anything in common (technology-wise) with the real TD2. The TD2 combines a lot of recent technology like that hd screen, cam and ram. What you will find underneath of yours might be a mash-up of older HTC phones like the Diamond or even older..who knows!? You can continue this uncertainty with the Windows that phone is running...it will be some homecooked release that is made to work with the components the phone features. As they will be different to TD2 as we have clarified earlier, the ROMs available here will most certainly not work ideally with yours....and i would be highly surprised to see a forum that will be dedicated to a fake TD2 lolz. Anyways, I think you get my point...I dont really see why you would ship yourself a chinese mock-up to start with a Windows Mobile phone...I dont, really. There are so many nice cheap hq HTC phones out there that still support 6.5 to-date. I have been using a HTC Excalibur (S620/621/Dash) for like 4 years and kept buying the same phone since then because i LOVE it. The quality is superb and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5 like a charm. You can pickup a brandnew unlocked one for $100 at the bay. Just a week ago i decided to upgrade and bought a new TD2...not here yet but same as you i am very excited Im sorry that i drifted off into a moral debate by the way
If you really want to embark on trying to update your phone you will have to analyze the rom closely to see what phone's ROM it is actually running. This will help you to find the according forum in here.
Good luck
I concur with vivid22, The internals of your phone will certainly be different to those of the original HTC build and as such you may have many unforseen troubles if you do flash the rom.
But if you decide to proceed with a rom flash i would be very interested to hear of your results.
You may also be interested in using some benchmark software and comparing how your phone performs compared to ours, maybe you can discover if the CPU is indeed the correct performance. Its all quite interesting.
Oh and welcome to the forums
Thanks for your responses guys! Very informative.
While I'm not going to respond to the most obvious statements like it being a counterfeit and it sucking etc in much detail because of course you are right! but I knew this when I bought it. The price is the real difference here and I don't mind if I can't flash it but I too am interested if it will actually work .
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive and yes you both are right it has a very high chance that it is using different internals and I expect this, however the seller seems to state its using very similar hardware.
I will be more than happy to mess around with it, I guess I will dump the ROM first if I can then try installing some 6.5 etc - no problem trying I guess. I must say I've seen some clones from merimobiles.com (or something) with TouchFlo and I think even WinMo 6.5 but then again obtaining those ROM's will be a quest in itself. Not sure if mine is being shipped with TouchFlo, it has it in the screen shots on the listening but that really counts for nothing .
I have seen a few threads on these devices and their flash capability but not any with any definitive results so hopefully I can get the ball rolling. When I actually receive my product I will be able to tell if it is actually using the same processor, etc.
I believe you will find that Hard SPL will not flash to unlock your device.
Many here have tried with the same knock-offs.
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
Lukeff7 said:
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
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No, SPL unlocks the OS, not the SIM.
Bootloader mode is how you determine your current SPL.
Okay. So I should be able to (hopefully) get into bootloader and find the SPL it currently has.
Well I guess thats it until I actually recieve the phone, cheers guys I'll post how I get on for the people who are interested.
It will be very interesting to hear about it. hope you get what you ordered?
God luck
Well, I'm back, for anyone who is interested!
Phone finally came, snow over here in the UK slowed it down haha!
So, the phone is very good for what I paid, and very nice.
I'd like to go about flashing it though, as it's currently running 6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell. SPB is very nice, but I really like the look of Touch Flo.
Now while cosmetically the phone looks pretty close to the TD2, it has a few things like no front camera (don't really care) and the zoom bar also seems to do absolutely nothing. The phone runs as smooth as it should. It has no g-sensor as far as I can tell, shame but doesn't really matter.
All of this sounds like it has no chance, I think it even has less RAM than it was meant to but I'm not sure... But here is why I am still curious about trying:
Windows Mobile is reporting that it is using the 528Mhz MSM7200A processor.
That is what I believe the real TD2 uses, correct me if I am wrong.
If this means it is using the same chipset or what-have you as the TD2, I don't know. This is why I need help.
Really, what I am asking, is what kind of things can I look at in the phone to tell what I could possibly flash it with?
Do you think the HardSPL utility you all use will work with it? Is there even any way to tell, or should I just try anyway? And could that break the phone beyond repair? Is there a way to find out the real specs of this phone, because it may have been modified so that it read that processor name?
What do you guys think. I'm willing to try all sorts, I just don't want to brick it with no way of getting it back that's why I am just asking for opinions before I do it anyway.
Thanks
You will brick your phone for sure if you try a rom for Diamond2, search this forum for chinese ROM (I saw it somewhere on another thread in Topaz section), but watch out that you will have a clean windows without customizations includind TF3D.

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