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Hey guys im new here, just have a few questions. So i've been doing some reading on flashing different roms to the TyTn. Whats the advantage of this? I just got my ATT Tilt a few weeks ago and dont wanna mess it up. Is there a performance benefit? Call quality? Different features. I hear about people loading the default htc rom. Is this better in any way than the one that ships with att? Thanks in advance.
Hi, Welcome aboard.
Actually, by my own (short) experience, using a cooked ROM, can be synonymous of performance benefit, increased call quality, different features, different aspect, functionality and a lot more… I recommend you to read some more things about in the specific thread of a ROM and compare it to the features of your shipped ROM…
But, firs of all, DO NOT FORGET TO READ:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
cheers
Some of the new roms on here are such a big difference from the factory rom that you'll feel like you've got a new phone, others are closer to the stock roms. I know everyone is always a little wary the first couple times of flashing (and bricking) their $400 phone, but in reality it's actually pretty safe (just don't do anything dumb with your computer or phone while it's in the process). If you looked at the amount of flashing that goes on in this forum vs. the amount of cases where a phone gets actually gets bricked I'm sure the results would say that flashing is successful 99.9% of the time and the other 0.1% is most likely due to hardware or user error. Long story short, flash your phone to whatever Dutty's latest is and you won't be disappointed!
I guess ill have to give this a try. considering my phone locks up enough to annoy me and calls drop lol. oh and I can barely hear the person on the other side cuz the volume sounds just too low. Im coming from the blackbery curve to this, I never had a dropped call. hopefully a new rom will cure some of my troubles.
cdgtcc said:
I guess ill have to give this a try. considering my phone locks up enough to annoy me and calls drop lol. oh and I can barely hear the person on the other side cuz the volume sounds just too low. Im coming from the blackbery curve to this, I never had a dropped call. hopefully a new rom will cure some of my troubles.
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Please let me know which ROM you go with, and how you like it. I'm in a similar situation to you, I just bought mine. I had an HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125) before, and did a lot of flashing on that, but haven't tried on the Tilt since it came stock with WM6 anyway I didn't initially see the point. Now I'm starting to hear of a lot of people liking these ROMs better.
I'm running Dutty's latest and let me be the first to say it is great. I have no problems whatsoever. It's faster, easier to use plus with a ton of mods to make life easier all the way around.
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I'm running Dutty's latest and let me be the first to say it is great. I have no problems whatsoever. It's faster, easier to use plus with a ton of mods to make life easier all the way around.
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Thanks! I'll have to try that out later on. It seems that one is the one everyone likes.
glad I could help.
Just to add another question, does anyone have any experience with different ROM "chefs?" I like Dutty's stuff so far, but I'm hearing things about a "Schaps" and some other chefs.
I'm not trying to pit them against each other (as I appreciate their contributions), but who's your favorite chef, and what is his/her best "dish?"
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Just to add another question, does anyone have any experience with different ROM "chefs?" I like Dutty's stuff so far, but I'm hearing things about a "Schaps" and some other chefs.
I'm not trying to pit them against each other (as I appreciate their contributions), but who's your favorite chef, and what is his/her best "dish?"
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i like schaps but i dont like the purple. other than that, no problems with it.
just a personal preference
I cant wait to start messing around with this stuff. Hopefully i stop dropping calls lol as well as gain performance.
Schaps makes good ROMs. But does not have a HTC phone so the support is not there. With the Kaiser i suggest a vanilla (clean) ROM and install the programs that you like to storage card. There is plenty of memory in this phone to do that you need.
Would you consider Dutty's "lite" ROMs to be "vanilla?" Or are you talking about stock ROMS?
Now I'm noticing that there's "XDA Live." Anyone want to explain that to me? Are there certain blokes on this forum who make "official" ROMs for this site?
Confused.
I'm running XDA-Live and it is most like the stock ATT ROM- Kyphur pretty much took the stock ATT ROM and stripped it bare, (vanilla ROM). Graphically it is not at all like Schaps/Dutty's etc. They are using the stock HTC ROM as a base with the huge clock and the HTC Home layout and icons. I personally don't like the visual layout of those ROMs and think that clock is taking up WAY to much valuable real estate. With XDA-Live you have alot of free storage and you can add anything back into it that you want. Really customizable.
Alemaker
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I'm running XDA-Live and it is most like the stock ATT ROM- Kyphur pretty much took the stock ATT ROM and stripped it bare, (vanilla ROM). Graphically it is not at all like Schaps/Dutty's etc. They are using the stock HTC ROM as a base with the huge clock and the HTC Home layout and icons. I personally don't like the visual layout of those ROMs and think that clock is taking up WAY to much valuable real estate. With XDA-Live you have alot of free storage and you can add anything back into it that you want. Really customizable. Alemaker
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How about Custel or Q-Mobile or Sleuth or Alex? Maybe I'll just post a survey...
Is it possible to go back to the stock ATT ROM. Ive had it with dropping calls freezing. Time to flash this thing.
Stock ROM date
I love the ROMs being cooked up here on these forums.
However, before flashing any of the ROMs, I now believe a little research is important. For example, I bought a TyTn II just this week, and its stock ROM shows a date of Oct 29, 2007. Whereas the latest Dutty ROM from December 12 shows a base date of Aug 28, 2007. Thus important official changes from HTC could be lost by flashing to a ROM with an base date earlier than the officially released ROM.
Is there any place where ROM wizards post a ChangeLog in a sticky thread? There's all kinds of new ROM threads floating around, and it's hard for a noob to figure out which version of which ROM to use.
I actually loaded Dutty's latest rom, and my phone is extrememly stable right now. Havent dropped a call, calls have better quality and are louder. Phone moves much faster as well. VERY happy with my phone that i was about to use as a paperweight yesterday. lol.
What is Dutty's latest rom?? Never even heard of it lol link?
Should be receiving my Diamond Monday. The information on the site is somewhat overwhelming lol. Anyone recommend essential tweaks, applications etc. Thanks!
I'm in the same situation as you.... will receive my Diamond next week and have been reading for 2 days everywhere on the net but mainly here... still i have some questions like you? mayby iäm slow or something ;-) Hope you don't mind me asking some Newbie questions here too...
- If i decide to use to official Rom in my phone can i tweak my phone to the same performance as when i use for example Duttys rom? if the answer is Yes the next question is whats the difference then if i add all the programs to?
(Scared of bricking my new Juwel) ;-)
-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
Hope that you don't have anything against that i hijacked your thread abit plbe if so let me know and i will remove the questions. Just that i'm sure many people here allready know the answers to our questions and i don't want to use more space than nessesarry ...
Thanks!
plbe said:
Should be receiving my Diamond Monday. The information on the site is somewhat overwhelming lol. Anyone recommend essential tweaks, applications etc. Thanks!
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Centin said:
I'm in the same situation as you.... will receive my Diamond next week and have been reading for 2 days everywhere on the net but mainly here... still i have some questions like you? mayby iäm slow or something ;-) Hope you don't mind me asking some Newbie questions here too...
- If i decide to use to official Rom in my phone can i tweak my phone to the same performance as when i use for example Duttys rom? if the answer is Yes the next question is whats the difference then if i add all the programs to?
(Scared of bricking my new Juwel) ;-)
-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
Hope that you don't have anything against that i hijacked your thread abit plbe if so let me know and i will remove the questions. Just that i'm sure many people here allready know the answers to our questions and i don't want to use more space than nessesarry ...
Thanks!
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very simple
install Diamond Tweak program
allmost all Tweaks in costom roms in this program
and you can turn it on or off.
have fun guys and merry christmas
Ok,
Centin said:
-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
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Well, the official ROM is usually somewhat slower and could have some 'problems' diamond users experience. Although sometimes an official update is available which could solve some stuff.
The main advantage of using a custom rom is that it's pre-tweaked. Has some tweaks you cannot get unless you flash a new ROM (so the tweaks are in the ROM itself). Take a different pagepool for example. Try and do a search about what that it.
Usually a new ROM also combines a set of the newest software from HTC. So the newest keyboard app from another HTC update, the new TouchFlo from somewhere else. And that combined gives you the latest software and tweaks.
Also, when you dont like touchflo 3d for example, there are custom roms that have removed that. And perhaps remove all other 'extra' software as well. Those are the so called 'light' roms. Those give you max memory and max speed (if possible) at the cost of less applications running thus removing certain functions. You can then add those functions as you please. So you don't end up with a phone that has stuff for 20 things, while you would only need 8 or something (just a random example).
In the case of the TouchFlo3D, if you dont like that and want something else as your today screen you want to get rid of it to free up some memory!
In all my experience with a lot of HTC phones, the 'best' roms were always custom ones. But it's getting harder and harder to see what's good and what's not. As you have probably seen already there are a lot of roms out there for the Diamond. I can only suggest you go and read what the differences seem to be between the roms.
Also read the comments on the roms and try to get some understanding of the changes made to the different versions.
Try to remember though (and this is always the nasty part) you can remove your warranty by flashing another ROM. Also (with the diamond in rare cases) you could 'brick' your phone. Which is no more than a failed update which makes your device unusable. I must say, with the Diamond that almost seems impossible when you just flash normal custom roms. But the 'risk' is always there in some way.
Read about the correct hard spl when you want to flash (need that one before you can flash a new rom, the hard spl unlocks your phone for custom roms). That would be the first step anyway.
And well, after all this info which isn't a lot at all (but it is!) and might or might not help you, the ROM I use is: Duttys V3.6b Final, the 12mb pagepool version.
You can find it here.
Read the howto flash part! It's in the second post all the way below the changelogs.
Obviously everyone has their favourite rom they use, and they all say theirs is the best. So you should really find that out yourself.
In every rom thread you will find things like 'I tried a lot of roms, but yours is the best!'. Try em out yourself and let you be the judge of that. Just take some time to try them out and see what you think is important in a ROM.
Thanks... answered my questions
Thanks alot for your answers it made it all clear for me now... !!
Now i only have to wait for my diamond ... and i have to say this Forum makes the Diamond even more usefull and valuable...
Thanks again...
Is there a preferred custom ROM amongst users here? BTW, which tweak program are you referring to? I've seen quite a few on here? Thanks.
i would def load the "background on all tab pages" tweak...this allows you to have your Home wallpaper on all the other tab pages.
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In every rom thread you will find things like 'I tried a lot of roms, but yours is the best!'. Try em out yourself and let you be the judge of that. Just take some time to try them out and see what you think is important in a ROM.
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That's what I've been doing for the past couple of hours lol. Some of these threads are HUGE. I still cannot decide which one to try. Looking at the radio bits too. Also curious about landscape keyboard. From what I understand...keyboard is only available in portrait mode but there are some fixes for that?
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i would def load the "background on all tab pages" tweak...this allows you to have your Home wallpaper on all the other tab pages.
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Is that part of that Advanced Config application?
"What Custom Rom is the best" and "What tweaks should I use" are both very subjective so we don't allow them for this reason.
Best recommendation I (or anyone) can give is to read about the things you think you want to use and ask for clarification in those threads.
ive seen a lot of custom ROMS flying around and i just want to know base from your experience what has been the best that you guys have used.
i wish i can flash my x1 and use every ROM here but i think that might be a bit too much
anyway feel free to share your thoughts.
well...i like the original best...beacuse i don't like manila at all,that is the way of diamond,but anyway,thanks everyone working on the x1 rom
I'm loving Touch-it v7, with fantastic version of Touch Flow 3d (with facebook integration).
I have not tried many other roms, so can't comment on how it compares, but the Touch-it series has definitely got my recommendation!
Everyone has different preferences though, so it's probably worth you looking at various ROM threads to see what fits best with you, then try them out.
I have found the new Topaz/Rhodium ROM's to be very buggy at the moment and have decided to avoid using them until the various issues are resolved.
At the moment I am using WildChild's ROM which is really fast and fairly bug-free. It's pretty much the stock ROM which has been fine-tuned with a few HTC utilities added for convenience.
As it stands we're pretty much spoiled for choice which is no bad thing.
I really like the 6.5 Roms here. Personally I do like my Rom best but that only because it has included the files that I want
I think every 6.5 Rom here around is worth to try. In my Opinion 6.5 is ready for all-day-use, due to its only a beta
they need to sort out the lock application. its pretty bad. just try playing a song then lock the phone. stutters quite a bit. same when the alarm goes off, stuttering. needs some refinement.
hm dont lock when youre listening to music?! You can online deactivate Screen so the device will only reactivate when u press this little button. I doubt that you can press it by accident in your pocket.
I'm stilll at Itje's 5.061 with all the fixes applied.
In my X1 it's stable and fast, and as everything works as intended I find no need to update to the newer v7 or another custom rom.
The newly released 6.5-501 roms are tempting me, but I'll think I'll wait till may as it's when 6.5 just gets released (althrough I think were gonna see something much similar to this latest build)
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they need to sort out the lock application. its pretty bad. just try playing a song then lock the phone. stutters quite a bit. same when the alarm goes off, stuttering. needs some refinement.
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This thread is about what the best ROM is. Already we're seeing workarounds for WM6.5... Though I'm sure it may become the best option in the future, you surely can't be promoting a beta ROM as the best option for the XPeria?
For me, I am using Norti ROM with Radio ROM 1.11.25.76. It is very stable and fast. Anyway, I love to try a new thing. The ROM I would like to try next is going to be Touch-IT WM6.5 .
Questions for the best/worst/blablabla ROM are FORBIDDEN here!
I've tried a lot of different roms, and I found "timurs rom wm 6.5 manila lancapture" to be the best. I has WM6.5 with TF3D.... plus little to no bugs. You cain't go wrong with that.
JohnDevol said:
This thread is about what the best ROM is. Already we're seeing workarounds for WM6.5... Though I'm sure it may become the best option in the future, you surely can't be promoting a beta ROM as the best option for the XPeria?
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Aye, that is the only downside ive found. 6.5 is otherwise very usable on a daily basis. so for me it is the best option.. using touch it Official 6.5, its great
Kid_DC said:
hm dont lock when youre listening to music?! You can online deactivate Screen so the device will only reactivate when u press this little button. I doubt that you can press it by accident in your pocket.
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yeah the top button works fine, but i meant the inbuilt windows lock function. if its there it should work
i know what you meant ^^ and yes you're right. But i think such a thing is not very necessary
apologies if this kind of topic is forbidden. i didnt know. anyway thanks for the input. ive settled with Touch-it 7 and i have to say its awesome. spent a few hours downloading the fixes and what have you but after it it was all good. have just been using it for 2 days so i still cant say for sure. but so far so good. i recomend it.
I've stayed away from anything Manilla for months now. I was tired of a sluggish interface. However I was thinking about giving it another shot to see what our fantastic chefs were able to do it it. So in everyone's opinion what is currently the FASTEST 2.5 rom out there that uses the WM 6.5.5. Any input would be much appreciated.
Oh and another thing I was curious about. Another reason I stopped using it was because it didn't really cooperate well with Iconsoft Phonex. Does anyone know if they clash still? (One example of a problem i had was HTC favorite contacts wouldn't go through to place a call when clicking a contact)
thanks
opinion here
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I am asking for speed, that is something measurable. I remember people would ask these all the time and quite often there was a general consensus like "Try Touch X Final. Its super fast!" or "Oh man! spikegotti's UnOff series is the best!"
So i was just wondering if there was a specific ROM that most people had more success with than others. If you don't have an answer or are annoyed by the thread I am sorry, but no one is forcing you to post an answer. I was just looking for anyone that had legitimate input. I'd prefer not to completely waste two days flashing every single ROM only to find out that i still dont really like manilla
Well, then do some research on your own. You know, users talk about how they felt the speed is like in threads of different roms. Have a look what rom appeals to you and then read some comments...would not be bad, would it?
I agree with other people, but I would also advice to start your searching from Valkyrie TR 6.0.28232
Try Valkyrie's rom. In my opinion it's fast,stable and you have all needed applications preinstalled
To help your case:
click the link in my signature. There are pretty good, fast, stable and bug-less roms on that blog. Also you could try blaze or valkyries like it has been mentioned already.
So except Valkryie is there another ROM that has Sense 2.5 and stable...Thanx a TON!!
I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.
Touch-IT BR 21893
I've flashed this one awhile ago and its working perfectly for me. So fast and stable but i disabled HTC messaging, u can search for the cab here in the forum... Cheers!
Go for Rotastrain's Blaze!
It's fast and stable, and any bugs are usually dealt with immediately.
SonyXperia said:
I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.
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Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??
I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.
dalgibbard said:
I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.
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dONT U get the SODs???I hvae heard that u have to update the radio also..im not very sure if i want to do that....
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Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??
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Hi,
My battery doesnt drain any faster with this ROM installed I get normal battery life.
Not sure about hte SOD issue you speak about.. if you mean does the phone freeze after I've unlocked the screen lock then no I generally havent experianced any freezeing on the phone since installing this ROM so basically I find it very stable.
Hey guys, I purchased my tp2 on ebay and it came with the energy rom and WinMo6.5 as with some other apps and such. I don't really know which functions are part of the energy rom or what is part of wm6.5. Should I keep energy ROM on it or go to something else? I have seen youtube videos with various ROM's and I havent noticed a significant difference in most of them. Would anyone care to give me some suggestions with ups and downs of some ROMs? Please and thank you
There is no "best ROM", because it's all down to personal preference - what sort of stuff you like, what your priorities are, how you use your phone etc.
Why not keep the ROM for now, or download and flash the latest EnergyROM and see how you get on with it ? It's easy to flash a new ROM if you want to.
I just flashed my first rom and used DeepShining X7. It's very nice and quick, and awesome. Just from screenshots energy looks like it might be a bit flashier looking. I agree with stevie, though. Try out the energy rom for a while before flashing something else so you can get a good feel for it.
As for what's in energy that isn't in regular Winmo 6.5, I have no clue. The installed 6.5 is slow, buggy, and not a good OS at all. My first impression of cooked ROMs is much better than the the original. Have fun!!
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There is no "best ROM", because it's all down to personal preference - what sort of stuff you like, what your priorities are, how you use your phone etc.
Why not keep the ROM for now, or download and flash the latest EnergyROM and see how you get on with it ? It's easy to flash a new ROM if you want to.
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Alright, I was just curious as to what im "missing" from other roms. I can't figure out how to organize my start screen with the Energy ROM however. If you just put the newest ROM on it, will it cause a hard reset and cause me to lose all of my data?
Yes, whenever you flash a new ROM you will lose all your data (contacts, texts etc) and settings. So ideally you need to backup the data at least, with something like PIMbackup or MS My Phone.
Yeah, I have My Phone. I'll get right on this. As soon as schools out. Which is only another two weeks! haha. Thanks
thread closed, not rom development.