Hi,
I know some of you have suffered from disappearing mail when using WM to download mail from Gmail via POP and I believe there have been some work arounds (using recent: and/or setting your WM6 to not download the entire smg), but I've never been really satisfied with them. Well, since I have a TILT, thought I'd ask my fellow Tilt folks to try this out.
In any case, I tried this workaround and it seems to be working. If someone would be nice enough to double check my steps to see if this works for you, this just might solve the whole GMail/POP/WM6 mishaps.
BTW, as a discalimer, I don't know if someone's come up with this type of solution!
Ok, we'll need two Gmail accounts, one that is your PRIMARY-GMAIL account and then you have your SECONDARY-GMAIL account (bear with me, it'll become clear why in a bit).
Typically, your PRIMARY-GMAIL is the account you receive all of your mail and from which reply from.
Your SECONDARY-GMAIL account (either create one or use one that you already have) is the account from which you'll download mail from with your Windows Mobile device.
Setup your PRIMARY-GMAIL account to "forward a copy of your mail" to your SECONDARY-GMAIL account and "keep Gmail's copy in the inbox"
Enable POP on your SECONDARY-GMAIL account.
On your Windows Mobile device, create a new email account and manually configure to download mail from your SECONDARY-GMAIL account and set it up to download 50kb.
On your Windows Mobile device, set up the OUTGOING server to NOT use the same credentials and then put in the credentials of your PRIMARY-GMAIL account.
That's it! When you receive email to your PRIMARY-GMAIL account, it's forwarded to your SECONDARY-GMAIL account. Your WM device will download mail from this Gmail account. When you reply from your WM device, your WM device will use the credentials of your PRIMARY-GMAIL account and because of the way GMail's interface works, it uses your PRIMARY-GMAIL account as the SENT FROM. Thus to the rest of the world, you downloaded/received it off your PRIMARY-GMAIL account but to you, it's downloaded from your SECONDARY-GMAIL account, but replied/sent from your PRIMARY-GMAIL account. You should be able to download/receive the entire message now without fear of email disappearing from your PRIMARY-GMAIL account.
Sorry, it might sound confusing and convoluted, but this seems to be working for me. No more worries of disappearing messages, etc etc. Would anyone else mind testing this out?
Thoughts?
Thanks!
pretty good workaround. I just use IMAP however.
Um yeah, why use POP when IMAP works now? Pop SUCKS!
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I've looked around a lot but I can't find this specific issue mentioned.
My Diamond currently syncs well with my outlook, which receives emails from a few accounts and aggregates them in one inbox. This is good because I'm able to take them with me anywhere.
What I want is for the Diamond to also be able to download mail from my gmail account - which it does without a hitch - but this means I won't get that email in my desktop inbox. When connecting the device and starting activesync, it will pull new messages from my desktop index, but instead of moving the gmail stuff to the desktop, it just deletes all messages completely and there's no trace of them anywhere.
Is there a way to attach an account to the "outlook inbox" so that the gmail mails I download are added to it instead of to a new account? If not, is there any way to synchronize that new account to my desktop inbox instead?
This sounds very trivial, but I can't get it to work.
I am using Dutty's latest ROM (3.6b).
Email settings...
Have a look in your email settings on your device for your gmail account. At the bottom of one of the pages you'll see underlined 'Advanced Settings'. Tap on this and change the setting to 'Leave on server'. This way, you can receive it on your device, but when you check your mail back at your desktop, it will be there too.
Look under Send/Receive Settings?
That's the option currently set, and it does indeed leave the messages on gmail, but they are not automatically downloaded to my desktop if they were already downloaded to the Diamond.
I don't understand why it doesn't synchronize them with outlook on my computer...
Oh?
Spiral Architect said:
That's the option currently set, and it does indeed leave the messages on gmail, but they are not automatically downloaded to my desktop if they were already downloaded to the Diamond.
I don't understand why it doesn't synchronize them with outlook on my computer...
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I'm sure why that is then. I use Tiscali email, and that downloads to my desktop whether I've already viewed them on my device or not. Perhaps someone else who uses gmail can help you... strange
in gmail, even if u leave the emails in the server, they wont be downloaded more than once. i know that, i am using a gmail account with my office pc as well as my home pc. and if i download an email from gmail using one of the two pc's, i cant download it again using the other pc, unless i go into the gmail server and "refresh" all emails making them as new. Same of course applies if you use a win mobile system.
Solution? yep and pretty simple. Have a new account in an exchange server, which can sync with your diamond. Have all your emails forwarded to this account. My diamond syncs only with my push-emailing exchange server, whilst all other accounts of mine are set in order to forward copies to the exchange server.
dunno if i made myself sufficiently clear... ?
How do I uhh.. set up an exchange server?
Is it seriously impossible to synch email I receive on the phone with desktop outlook? This is stupid. :/ One of the reasons I got the phone was that I could get emails everywhere, but it's useless if not only it doesn't synch it with the computer, but it deletes these mails automatically.....
Spiral Architect said:
How do I uhh.. set up an exchange server?
Is it seriously impossible to synch email I receive on the phone with desktop outlook? This is stupid. :/ One of the reasons I got the phone was that I could get emails everywhere, but it's useless if not only it doesn't synch it with the computer, but it deletes these mails automatically.....
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i opened an account in a microsoft exchange server, to which i forward all my emails from other accounts. Also all my contacts and to-do list are in this exchange server, and are sync together with outlook in my other two computers (+diamond). I do so not just for sync but also because this is the best way for getting push-emailing... meaning my diamond gets the email right in the moment i receive it.
btw u can get a free email account in the following exchange server: http://live.mail2web.com/
Do you have imap enabled or just pop3? If you let the phone automatically setup your email then it will automatically chose pop3. Don't enter your email adress when configuring your gmail because it automatically sets up everything. Just enter something like [email protected] and it should give you the option to choose imap.
And make sure your computer also uses imap.
I have 3 different accounts set up on live and hotmail. I would like the emails from all of these to be accessible on my Xperia. Sadly every time I try to add the second one the phone does nothing.
I have tried two different ROMs neither of which changed the result.
Hope someone can help.
Thanks.
I'm not a hotmail/live user but i think that the phone wants to associate your live account with windows live. and you can only ad on windows live account. what you cold do is forward the mails to on account. i have 4 email account and i have them forwarded to an gmail account so i only have to ad on account for everything.
like i sayd i'm not an live user so i don't know if there is something you can do i never had this isseu.
ive got 2 hotmail accounts working on mine
Do you have live messenger installed on your phone? as a program not a panel.
You can do it, but you'll get push mail only for ONE account. This is how it works: Set up a new e-mail account, enter a fake e-mail address. The domain-part is important (The thing after @). DO NOT WRITE HOTMAIL OR MSN OR LIVE THERE! Enter correct PW for your e-mail. Then choose POP3 Servers. Servers are: pop3.live.com and smtp.live.com. Make sure you check ALL checkboxes you can, also in advanced, enable SSL, outgoing mails authentication etc. When you're done, EDIT the account you just created and put in the correct e-mail address. Now you can use it
Sweet. Thanks a million.
thats how i got mine to work
but i cant get push email to work how do you set that up?
hi everyone i am getting my nexus one soon and my friend let me borrow his nexus overnight
he wiped it and is running stock 2.1 so i can setup my email and things like that to get used to the nexus one
anyway i am trying to setup my google apps domain with the email app using exchange but i dont know what settings to use
i am not sure what to put in the domain/username field
i already know i should put m.google.com for the server field
extrafuzzyllama said:
hi everyone i am getting my nexus one soon and my friend let me borrow his nexus overnight
he wiped it and is running stock 2.1 so i can setup my email and things like that to get used to the nexus one
anyway i am trying to setup my google apps domain with the email app using exchange but i dont know what settings to use
i am not sure what to put in the domain/username field
i already know i should put m.google.com for the server field
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I don't think google apps supports exchange? I could be wrong. You'd probably want to just add this as a google account, where in 2.2 multiple google accounts are possible. I think you're doing it wrong.
but u can use the m.google.com for google sync
i even had a setting to enable it on my domain options
and i also used that m.google.com server and recieved emails right away using a normal gmail account to test it out and worked but cant seem to get it to work with google apps domain cuz i dont know what domain/ username i am supposed to put in
extrafuzzyllama said:
but u can use the m.google.com for google sync
i even had a setting to enable it on my domain options
and i also used that m.google.com server and recieved emails right away using a normal gmail account to test it out and worked but cant seem to get it to work with google apps domain cuz i dont know what domain/ username i am supposed to put in
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You're still doing it wrong....
Exchange is for MS Exchange servers.
What you should do go into accounts and sync, add another google account, type in [email protected] and your password. Should work
how was ot able to work with my regualr gmail account?
aad4321 said:
I would just use the multiple google apps accounts that 2.1 and 2.2 allow. Worst case it may work as exchange. Google apps also does work with exchange but limited. This is a fact because Windows mobile devices are configured with google apps using active sync.
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Correct me if I'm wrong...
Windows Mobile phones use POP/IMAP to sync with any other type of email address other than an Exchange account, because when using an Exchange account you'll need to use the Active Sync protocol.
Google Apps and Exchange are services, not clients or protocols. I don't see how you would be able to use Google Apps with Exchange unless you're doing a migration or have GPO's set on the network to set up Google Apps accounts in Outlook.
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how was ot able to work with my regualr gmail account?
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Probably through either IMAP or its own proprietary communication protocol. Gmail doesn't support ActiveSync
Gmail does in fact support Exchange ActiveSync protocol, and that is exactly how Windows Mobile devices sync most effectively with Gmail, regular or apps version. They made an announcement last year when the ActiveSync Protocol was enabled.
The config settings should be m.google.com for server, and full email address for username. I haven't tried it, because of the following reason:
The most effective way to get at your gmail from an Android phone is with the Gmail app. It does push just like ActiveSync, and supports more of the features of Gmail, like stars, threaded conversations, labels, etc.
Just tried it with my google apps account, works fine in the email app.
On the first screen, enter your email address and password, then hit manual setup
On the second screen, select Exchange Activesync
On the third screen, enter your email address in the username box (remove the leading "\" as well). Leave the password as entered, and replace the server with m.google.com. Select both checkboxes, click Next
Fourth screen, select your sync options (use Automatic(push)) and other settings as you like
Finally, give the account a name, and enter your display name on outgoing messages, and click Done.
Works great.
MountainDrew said:
Just tried it with my google apps account, works fine in the email app.
On the first screen, enter your email address and password, then hit manual setup
On the second screen, select Exchange Activesync
On the third screen, enter your email address in the username box (remove the leading "\" as well). Leave the password as entered, and replace the server with m.google.com. Select both checkboxes, click Next
Fourth screen, select your sync options (use Automatic(push)) and other settings as you like
Finally, give the account a name, and enter your display name on outgoing messages, and click Done.
Works great.
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Just wanted to put in my pennies. I set up Google Apps accounts as part of my business, and Activesync is the ONLY way you should sync your email on Windows Mobile. It also works for standard Gmail accounts, and it will sync your Contacts and Calendar too. Just don't select Tasks in the sync options or the sync will fail.
Windows Mobile isn't just an Enterprise Solution anymore, thanks to Google.
I have a Lumia 920 and the account I've been using with it has started to get flooded with spam mail. I've created a new account but before I switch the phone over to use it I'd like to make sure there's a way to restore/transfer my SMS messages. Is there a way to do this? The only WP8 app I've found that claims to backup/restore/transfer SMS messages is the Nokia app and that appears to only work over Bluetooth to another phone. Any thoughts would be appreciated!
What does spam mail have to do with the account you sign into the phone with? You don't have to sync the email account to the phone. Heck, my "Microsoft account" uses an email address that I couldn't sync directly even if I wanted to (it's a personal account that I sync separately using IMAP/SMTP, not a Hotmail/Outlook/whatever account)! Just stop syncing mail on that account and stary synching another one. That way you don't have to tell everybody to start using a different Skype or Messenger or anything else account, either...
I have a Pixel 5 that I've been using Outlook on because I hate the gmail client, which has been working fine until now, when I'm trying to add a new Exchange account. I'm having two issues that may be somewhat related or not. As part of moving to the new server, I had to remove my old account. Before doing so, I moved all of my contacts from that account to the device. When I selected them all and then selected 'Move to another account', I was given the choice of moving to the device or to google. As I DO NOT want want my contacts in google, I moved them to my device. I then removed my old account, and proceeded to try to set up Outlook for my new account, which I end up getting 'The connection to your mail server times out. Please check your mail settings.'. The settings are correct, and other mail apps (gmail, nine, etc) work fine. Only Outlook refuses. About the only thing I've been able to find is Microsoft claiming it's because TLS 1.0 and/or 1.1 are enabled or it's a certificate issue. Well, it's not. The certificate is proper and trusted, and only TLS 1.2 is enabled on the server, 1.0 & 1.1 are disabled. Microsoft 'testconnectivity' site confirms that all is proper and functioning, including activesync.
I more or less gave up on Outlook for now, although if someone knows something I haven't found that'll make it work, that would be appreciated, however, at least for now, I decided to give Nine a shot, which may be a viable option. But that's where my other issue comes in. When I moved all of my contacts from my old account to my device, I was given the option of moving to my device or to my gmail account. Now, with my contacts on my device, when I select them all and try to move them, the only option is the gmail account. The 'Contacts' from the Nine app show up in the list of accounts when I go to select what account I want 'Contacts' to look in, and when I move a contact into my Exchange contacts, it shows up on my phone, and if I try to move the contact synced from Exchange via Nine, it give me the device and gmail options, but the phone refuses to give me an option to move my contacts that are on the phone anywhere other than gmail. Does anyone have any ideas why?
Thanks
Just to add - I dug out my old HTC phone and charged it up to do some further testing... using it's 'Exchange Activesync for HTC Sense' (which, in my opinion, is probably the best, most straightforward e-mail client I've ever used on an android phone), it works PERFECTLY. No stupidness, syncs things as expected, contacts and all. I set my account up on an older ipad that doesn't run the latest ios and thus won't run outlook, but with the native app, works perfectly. But my Pixel doesn't seem to know what the heck it wants to do. It seems like everything other than 'Outlook for Android' and my pixel knows what it should be doing and just does it, but my pixel is just out there running circles in the cornfield..... I also saw some bit where I could select WHICH contact lists to sync where there were more than one in the account, but I haven't been able to find that again, and have moved all 'contacts' folders out into a PST so that it's not trying to sync all of the different contacts folders when it does decide to sync something.